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http://gawker.com/5634379/the-secret-dealer-for-farmville-addicts

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The company behind Mafia Wars  and Farmville doesn't like to talk about the sad addicts who fuel its profits. But it does quietly run a special store for them, where imaginary credits are bought with very real bank transfers.

The minimum purchase in Zynga's underground "Platinum Purchase Program" is $500, payable by wire transfer (see email below). The reward over buying online with your credit card: Extra points with which to buy virtual goods for the company's Facebook games. If you refer a friend to the program, you get even more points. Zynga, meanwhile, gets word of mouth, which is especially important since Zynga keeps this bulk sales program hush hush; it's not mentioned on the company website, nor within its games. If you Google for it, you'll get a few complaints for disgruntled customers and a couple of posts from a blogger named "Loot Lady," who writes that it was "hard to find a lot of information out about this" program.

Well, naturally. With top-drawer partners like Apple and Google, Zynga is not going to be keen to draw attention to how much of its profits come from obsessive online gaming junkies, many of them underaged or low income, like the unemployed disabled man the New York Times discovered was spending 16 hous a day on Zynga's YoVille.

But it is keen to tap the market. Indeed, when it comes to game design, Zynga CEO Mark Pincus has a predatory attitude toward gamers, and has told his programmers that pumping up profits is more important than the experience of actually playing the game, ex employees say in an excellent new SF Weekly cover story. Disillusioned employees have even reportedly given Zynga an unofficial motto: "Do Evil," an inversion of Google's informal slogan "Don't be evil."

Having explicitly aimed to get people addicted to its mindless, low-quality games — SF Weekly writes that titles like Zynga's are built around a "compulsion loop," which sounds about right — Zynga's not just going to leave money on the table. By setting up a non-refundable, bank-to-bank transfer program, as documented in the Zynga email we obtained and have reproduced below, the company can avoid giving a cut of the revenue to credit card companies and processors. More importantly, the program allows gaming addicts to feed their addictions more conveniently; on Facebook Zynga's game stores can top out at $50 or $200 in virtual credit at a time, effectively turning away the company's best customers.

It's not a pretty notion, the idea of grown humans throwing huge quantities of perfectly good money into electronic addictions. Then again, it's not exactly novel one, either. Zynga deserves credit, at the very least, for going with the tried and true solution of keeping its junkie-serving business in the shadows, rather than throwing it onto the open web in some misguided gesture of transparency. Drug dealers have been doing it this way for centuries, with good reason.

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Re: "You ever suck some dick for Farmville? Now that's an addiction, man."
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2010, 05:34:53 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2010, 06:05:38 PM »
Holy fucking shit.

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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2010, 06:08:08 PM »
Wouldn't touch Farmville, or any of its ilk, with a ten foot pole.
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Re: "You ever suck some dick for Farmville? Now that's an addiction, man."
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2010, 06:12:01 PM »
http://brokentoys.org/2010/09/10/bobby-kotick-incredibly-grateful-mark-pincus-exists/

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An article in this week’s SF Weekly asks the burning question: is Farmville’s Zynga merely evil, or a black hole of vile darkness from which no ethics can escape?

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    In light of Zynga’s phenomenal rise, one former senior employee recalls arriving at the company eager to discover what new business practices were driving its success in a market where other popular Web 2.0 ventures struggled to make money. What was Zynga’s secret? Not long after starting work, he got an answer. It came directly from Zynga founder and CEO Mark Pincus at a meeting. And it wasn’t what he expected.

    “I don’t f**king want innovation,” the ex-employee recalls Pincus saying. “You’re not smarter than your competitor. Just copy what they do and do it until you get their numbers.”

    Workers at Zynga were fond of joking (albeit half-seriously) that their firm’s unofficial motto was an inversion of Google’s famous “Don’t Be Evil.”

    “Zynga’s motto is ‘Do Evil,’” he says. “I would venture to say it is one of the most evil places I’ve run into, from a culture perspective and in its business approach. I’ve tried my best to make sure that friends don’t let friends work at Zynga.”

    “We’ve never before seen this kind of deliberate unconcern for the aesthetics of the experience,” says Ian Bogost, a professor at the Georgia Institute of Technology and founding partner of Persuasive Games. He says Zynga’s market-driven approach to the development of simple but addictive applications is “like strip-mining. They don’t really care about the longevity of the form or the experience. … That sort of attitude is the sort of thing you usually hear about from oil companies or pharmaceuticals. You don’t really hear about it in arts and entertainment.”

    One of the more common complaints among former Zynga employees is about Pincus’ distaste for original game design and indifference to his company’s products, beyond their ability to make money. “The biggest problem I had with him was that he didn’t know or care about the games being good — the bottom line was the only concern,” a former game designer says. “While I am all for games making money, I like to think there’s some quality there.”
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Re: "You ever suck some dick for Farmville? Now that's an addiction, man."
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2010, 06:32:10 PM »
makes horse armor seem like...well, digital horse armor

:lol
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2010, 06:34:11 PM »
my brother and sister-in-law play these games incessantly and never pay a dime

they are working the zynga loophole like carnival grifters
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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2010, 06:34:47 PM »
In a way its kind of scary to see what happens when the Free to Play model that involves buying pieces of the game becomes standard for big MMO's.
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« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2010, 06:37:38 PM »
one of my friends played this korean mmo http://requiem.mmosite.com/ for hundreds of hours while unemployed, and never paid anything
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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2010, 06:47:00 PM »
Honestly that's what any of these mmo's strike me as. Yes the better ones actually employ good game design behind it but it mainly seems like a treadmill to repeat the same actions while you either buy little trinkets in the free ones or pay the monthly fee in the ones that can achieve that. It's a time and money drain literally.

I mean its no better or worse than casino's imo which is what they essentially turn into. 

I was surprised to find out a few months that my brother is a big farmville player. He owns a ps3. But obviously there is some component that drives him to play those facebook games for some reason.

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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2010, 06:53:23 PM »
i will admit that during my borecast experimentation with farmville it was fun to play when they did the halloween theme

i made a gayyard graveyard :teehee
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« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2010, 06:58:19 PM »
Honestly that's what any of these mmo's strike me as. Yes the better ones actually employ good game design behind it but it mainly seems like a treadmill to repeat the same actions while you either buy little trinkets in the free ones or pay the monthly fee in the ones that can achieve that. It's a time and money drain literally.

I mean its no better or worse than casino's imo which is what they essentially turn into. 

I was surprised to find out a few months that my brother is a big farmville player. He owns a ps3. But obviously there is some component that drives him to play those facebook games for some reason.


I have a friend who dumped thousands of dollars into Maple Story. He eventually broke the cycle a few months ago and stopped playing.

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Re: "You ever suck some dick for Farmville? Now that's an addiction, man."
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2010, 07:05:48 PM »
This comic should have been about Farmville.

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« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2010, 07:06:42 PM »
It's not like I don't have an addictive personality myself. I love games like Diablo and such or competitive shooters. I've put hundreds of hours into some of them. But mmo's have never appealed to me. And I hate the idea of social networking sites so I don't even have a facebook page so I've never gotten to play any of those games although some of them I think I have played clones of on the idevices.

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« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2010, 07:10:20 PM »
i sort of wish i didn't have a facebook page, but i would have to deal with a bunch of "why don't you want to stay in touch with the family blahblahblahhere'sachickenforyourfarm" shit so i just leave it be
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« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2010, 07:14:20 PM »
It's not like I don't have an addictive personality myself. I love games like Diablo and such or competitive shooters. I've put hundreds of hours into some of them. But mmo's have never appealed to me.

Yeah, I'm pretty much the same way. Sometimes I'll get really into a game and play for a hundred hours, but I really just don't like the idea of having to pay a monthly fee or a series of one-time fees to either continue playing a game I already bought or to actually get the "premium" content.
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« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2010, 07:33:45 PM »
i sort of wish i didn't have a facebook page, but i would have to deal with a bunch of "why don't you want to stay in touch with the family blahblahblahhere'sachickenforyourfarm" shit so i just leave it be

Yeah, it great for keeping up with various family members. I haven't seen or talked to my family in Florida in years but ever since I've added them on Facebook we've all been able to stay in touch.
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« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2010, 04:18:50 AM »
US$500 minimum.

Now that's something that makes iterative DLC purchases look like piffle.

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« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2010, 04:20:15 AM »
you guys ever have those times whre like you're horny right, and you imagine a pig beast sucking your dick? you cum and you're like WHAT WAS I THINKING ???

oh what horniness can do to a man
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« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2010, 04:34:27 AM »
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« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2010, 04:40:29 AM »
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« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2010, 04:52:03 AM »
True story, I liked to pretend Peyj was a burly man. I liked the peekage of his gut on the character model.
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« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2010, 04:58:24 AM »
"peekage of his gut" wtf

what just happened to this thread
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« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2010, 11:51:16 AM »
you guys ever have those times whre like you're horny right, and you imagine a pig beast sucking your dick? you cum and you're like WHAT WAS I THINKING ???

oh what horniness can do to a man

So what you're saying is that you fantasize about your Farmville livestock?  ???

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« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2010, 12:43:11 PM »
:bow Zynga :bow2

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« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2010, 12:48:44 PM »
"peekage of his gut" wtf

what just happened to this thread

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« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2010, 01:04:18 PM »
what the fuck is wrong with you himuro

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« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2010, 01:06:42 PM »
my mom plays only one game and that's farmville, she plays everyday for about an hour or more.
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« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2010, 03:29:30 PM »
I had no qualms throwing some digi-coins at Puzzle Pirates, though
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« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2010, 09:27:48 PM »
Fucking LOTRO is gonna make me throw down a one time $5 fee so I can throw imaginary stuff up in the games imaginary auction house. Brave new world.
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« Reply #30 on: September 11, 2010, 09:52:47 PM »
Wasn't September 3rd a Friday, not the 2nd?

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« Reply #31 on: September 12, 2010, 04:26:15 AM »
Wasn't September 3rd a Friday, not the 2nd?
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« Reply #32 on: September 12, 2010, 09:45:15 AM »
I used to play Vampire Wars with a friend :teehee
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« Reply #33 on: September 12, 2010, 02:00:39 PM »
I used to play Vampire Wars with a friend :teehee

That's the most juvenile term for a blowjob I've ever heard.
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« Reply #34 on: September 12, 2010, 04:04:54 PM »
I used to play Vampire Wars with a friend :teehee

That's the most juvenile term for a blowjob I've ever heard.

"The mere fact that you call oral sex 'Vampire Wars' tells me that you're not ready."
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