Why are the Zelda games for the DS so terrible?

[SantaC]

I mean, Nintendo (and flagship) managed to create several great handheld zeldas in the past, but they cannot for their lives make a good Zelda for DS. Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks suffer from about the same errors. Poor and murky graphics, terrible dungeon design, almost no overworld to explore and on-rails transportation. I can understand the concept of Phantom Hourglass, but I cannot for my life understand why the hell EAD decide to use the same game mechanics uninspiring graphics engine for the next handheld game? What was wrong with the good ole overheard view where you could actually explore an overworld.



The wonderful Zelda LA (DX)



Oracle of Seasons (love it)



Oracle of Ages (another great installation)



Zelda Minish cap had vibrant colors and was a fun game



Shit it is getting murky from here (zelda ph)



Now it is downright depressing  (zelda st)

[Beezy]

The who? On the what?

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I thought we agreed to pretend that they don't exist.

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[demi]

Gee another shitty Zelda thread

[SantaC]

Gee another shitty Zelda thread

it is a legit question though. Just look at the past games and now look at the suckfest we been playing on the DS. How can they screw it up so badly.

[demi]

Yes, but it's also a beaten question... but it made me put the GB games on my DS card... so it proved useful

Btw. Play this game - Tsumuji

I played the JAP version a while back... poops all over Zelda DS

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[Third]

The last three Zelda games have  been mediocre anyway.

Metroid franchise has been ruined >>>> Metroid other M
Zelda Fanchise has been ruined >>>> Zelda TP, Zelda PH, Zelda ST

Mario is still good. But SMG2 was basically SMG v1.1
Pokemon games just suck and are clones of the previous games.

Nintendo is creatively bankrupt.

[drew]

because the ds itself is terrible

next question please

[Himu]

there are zelda games on the ds?

oh boy, time to go to gamestop!

[magus]

because zelda itself is terrible

next question please

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in truthness,i love LA and the oracle games and i moderately like twilight princess but i never understood why everybody is gay for OOT

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[EmCeeGrammar]

Phantom Hourglass was a lot of fun. Pansies complaining about the central dungeon way too much, as if it didn't have shortcuts built into it for revisits. 

SantaC makes another bland trite topic.

[drew]

there are zelda games on the ds?

oh boy, time to go to gamestop!

every time i see you post on the gaming side i always almost tell you to "fuck off back to real talk, pd" but then i remember

[SantaC]

Phantom Hourglass was a lot of fun. Pansies complaining about the central dungeon way too much, as if it didn't have shortcuts built into it for revisits. 

SantaC makes another bland trite topic.

and yet you are here to respond. Anyone who think PH was fun should /quit gaming.

Yes, but it's also a beaten question... but it made me put the GB games on my DS card... so it proved useful

the GB games 

[AdmiralViscen]

Fable 2

[Phoenix Dark]

PH had some damn nice controls but that's it. Clearly the games aren't meant for much outside of disposable entertainment for children. They could have done something very fun with those controls as the foundation.

The DS could spawn some pretty cool dungeon lootin' games but oh well

[EmCeeGrammar]

I liked the cartography puzzles in phantom hourglass. I dunno, maybe I'm just a novely whore and Phantom Hourglass was just so garsh darn novel and briskly paced that I enjoyed it blindly.

[Positive Touch]

PH had some damn nice controls but that's it. Clearly the games aren't meant for much outside of disposable entertainment for children. They could have done something very fun with those controls as the foundation.

The DS could spawn some pretty cool dungeon lootin' games but oh well

exactly.  stop playing games designed for eight-year-olds and realize nintendo franchises aren't for you anymore

[Rman]

Last portable Zelda game I played was the first one--LA.  I some how missed the Oracle games and the Mimish cap.  The Wind Waker sequels just never interested me.

[drew]

PH had some damn nice controls but that's it. Clearly the games aren't meant for much outside of disposable entertainment for children. They could have done something very fun with those controls as the foundation.

The DS could spawn some pretty cool dungeon lootin' games but oh well

what are you doing on the gaming side, fuck off back to la la land, jerkoff

[tiesto]

Last portable Zelda game I played was the first one--LA.  I some how missed the Oracle games and the Mimish cap.  The Wind Waker sequels just never interested me.

Oracle games have some great puzzles and some actual challenge... even if the overworld is a bit of a hassle to travel through. Still some of the better Zelda games. Phantom Hourglass was bad, and Spirit Tracks is horrible.

[SantaC]

Last portable Zelda game I played was the first one--LA.  I some how missed the Oracle games and the Mimish cap.  The Wind Waker sequels just never interested me.

if you like LA, you will like the oracle games as well.

[Phoenix Dark]

Oracle was actually tough. Zelda bosses in general aren't particularly hard, but Oracles compensates by not holding your hand as much as other Zelda games with the puzzles and gameplay gimmick (seasons/time).

[Madrun Badrun]

Because Capcom stopped making the handheld Zeldas.

[TakingBackSunday]

Because Capcom stopped making the handheld Zeldas.

Not entirely true - most of the staff from the Capcom games are now apart of the Zelda team as a whole.

[SantaC]

Oracle was actually tough. Zelda bosses in general aren't particularly hard, but Oracles compensates by not holding your hand as much as other Zelda games with the puzzles and gameplay gimmick (seasons/time).

yeah the oracle games were pretty much free-roaming compared to the DS games.

[EmCeeGrammar]

Because Capcom stopped making the handheld Zeldas.

Not entirely true - most of the staff from the Capcom games are now apart of the Zelda team as a whole.

And they helped make the ds zelda games! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Embrace the future folks.

[Yeti]

The shittiest part about the DS games is the traveling. It's like you have to play a horrible minigame over and over and over again just to get from town to town, or to the next dungeon. If it wasn't for that I don't think they would be all that bad, there are some pretty fun dungeons here and there, and the touch controls work pretty well.

[TakingBackSunday]

I had a good time with Spirit Tracks with everything that didn't involve riding your fucking train.  Too bad the last half of the game is almost EXCLUSIVELY that.

[BlueTsunami]

Touchscreen

[Enl]

-Shitty 3d graphics
-Lack of real overworld
-Subpar music
-Daycare difficulty
-Monotonous repeated dungeon design
-Annoying gimmicks that detract from the core gameplay

[TakingBackSunday]

yeah but you like monster hunter, ew