Why is old anime so violent (as compared to newer anime)?

[Himu]

PD, word of warning, the first episode may be confusing for a lot of people who aren't familiar with Japanese history. 

But yes it's episode one.

[Phoenix Dark]

I'm watching this and it's the gayest shit ever. This little kid is a sap

edit: oh shit I take it back, Kenshen Anakin-san

stingy ass Obi Wan won't share the sake smh

what's up with Banjo Guy. he sick or something?

kk shit was dope, will watch again

[Himu]

Banjo guy has tuberculosis as does Okita of the Shinsen Gumi.

Time Period: Bakumatsu

Characters:

Banjo Guy

JUSTICE IS INSANITY guy

BLUE GUYS

kid in the shinsengumi

I smell blood dude

Guy who Kenshin is based off of

There were four hitokiri (assassins) during the Bakumatsu and Meiji Restoration. The guy Kenshin is based off of worked for the Choshu clan, who helped overthrow the Shogunate.

[Robo]

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blood and gore 

jesus, i remember watching this as a kid.  guyver 1's screaming at the end was fucking traumatizing.

Is this from the OVA series or the short one-off?

[Himu]

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[Great Rumbler]

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[MCD]

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blood and gore 

jesus, i remember watching this as a kid.  guyver 1's screaming at the end was fucking traumatizing.

Is this from the OVA series or the short one-off?

OVA

[Phoenix Dark]

watching episode 2 

I should probably watched the subtitled version, but the dub is so hilarious

Kenshin Anakin-san's new gf is hot. is there any nudity in this?

white plumbs lol

too many long names. Ok so the empire attacked a rebel alliance meeting in hopes of killing their leader (Insanity Guy) and Kenshin Anakin-san. In the process they burnt down Kyoto. So now Kenshin and his new wife Padme are running away. that's what I got at least

[Beezy]

I can't believe PD is watching anime

[Himu]

Basically, the Shogunate's special task force the shinsengumi (their leader being Miyabe) tried to mend ties with Katsura and Choshu, but Katsura wouldn't go for it. In order to lure Kenshin, the ishin shishi (the assassin organization he works for) and the Choshu (Katsura's outfit, the rebels) they decide to burn the capitol.

Episode 3 is my favorite one.

[Himu]

I can't believe PD is watching anime

If we can get his ass to use torrents I will have him watch Now and Then, Here and There. Being a fantasy homo he will love it.

[Beezy]

I can't believe PD is watching anime

If we can get his ass to use torrents I will have him watch Now and Then, Here and There. Being a fantasy homo he will love it.

Or get him to use netflix. I haven't watched it either but I have it in my instant streaming queue. Most likely the dub though.

[Phoenix Dark]

Things I'm looking for: lots of action and shit, violence and good stories with cool characters. I like this samurai shit because it reminds me of Princess Mononoke a bit. So yea, more stuff like this please.

no guns or robots

[Himu]

I just wanna suggest stuff with good story. Does it HAVE to have a lot of action?

[Phoenix Dark]

Nah, but no gay shit

[Himu]

All of these are films aside from Kino and Now and Then, Here and There, Ghost in the Shell: SAC and Samurai X, which you are watching.

I'd say go with Ninja Scroll or Akira next.

- Samurai X
- Ninja Scroll
- Akira
- Vampire Hunter D
- Fist of the North Star movie
- Nausicaa
- Porco Rosso
- Whisper of the Heart
- My Neighbors the Yamadas
- Millennium Actress
- Tokyo Godfathers
- Perfect Blue
- Castle in the Sky
- Paprika
- Voices of a Distant Star
- The Girl Who Leapt Through Time
- Now and Then, Here and There
- Kino's Journey
- Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex

[Phoenix Dark]

I've seen Castle In the Sky and Millennium Actress, both were amazing.

What about shows that are like Princess Mononoke? Are there more Samurai X shows?

[Great Rumbler]

Things I'm looking for: lots of action and shit, violence and good stories with cool characters. I like this samurai shit because it reminds me of Princess Mononoke a bit. So yea, more stuff like this please.

no guns or robots

Sword of the Stranger
Samurai Champloo
Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust
Blood: The Last Vampire
Berserk [if you can stomach the worst cliffhanger ending ever]
Mezzo Forte [watch the censored version unless you like porn]
Claymore
Fist of the North Star movie

[Himu]

What elements of Princess Mononoke would you like to see in a tv series? The SAVE THE ERF philosophy or the OMG ACTION part? Or the fantasy?

Samurai X has a tv series, but I wouldn't say it's worth watching. There are a few good anime samurai tv series, but none are particularly bloody.

If you want a good fantasy story with blood and guts and fantasy and FUCK YEAH then watch Berserk or Twelve Kingdoms.

If you want more samurai then watch Samurai Champloo.

[Beezy]

Watch Ninja Scroll next, PD. Every black dude who watches anime has seen it at some point.

[Phoenix Dark]

I liked the action in Princess Mononoke. The save the erf shit was cool but meh, I don't want more of it. Give me something with sword fighting, action, big ass animals, wars, etc. And maybe some political intrigue

[Beezy]

wars, etc. And maybe some political intrigue

Stop hating on robots and watch Gundam, goddammit.

[Great Rumbler]

I liked the action in Princess Mononoke. The save the erf shit was cool but meh, I don't want more of it. Give me something with sword fighting, action, big ass animals, wars, etc. And maybe some political intrigue

Check my post, PD. I got your hook up.

[Phoenix Dark]

I'm gonna check out Ninja Scroll and Sword of the Stranger

[Himu]

I liked the action in Princess Mononoke. The save the erf shit was cool but meh, I don't want more of it. Give me something with sword fighting, action, big ass animals, wars, etc. And maybe some political intrigue

Berserk.

But yes, watch Ninja Scroll next. MAKE SURE IT'S THE ORIGINAL NINJA SCROLL and not Ninja Scroll Resurrection.

Also, FINISH SAMURAI X.

[Madrun Badrun]

Berserk is ok for the first 2/3 and then gets silly.

Cowboy Bebop should be your next show PD!

[Himu]

smh arvie

[Beezy]

Wtf is Ninja Scroll Resurrection?

[Himu]

A sequel where Jubei does some shit and the Japanese Christian religion have a reincarnated Japanese Jesus. Fucking stupid bullshit. Ends with Japanese Jesus dying inside a burning shrine and some chicks fucking him for his seed before he dies and they run away. Shitshithsithist

[Junpei the Tracer!]

PD should watch Evangelion. I wish to read his thoughts on the series.

[Himu]

ugh

[Great Rumbler]

If you're going to watch Eva, just skip the series and go straight to the movies.

[Beezy]

Don't watch Eva...

[Vizzys]

eva holds up well I think, deffo worth a watch

[Chinner]

are there any animes where babies get murdered? cause that would be a pretty good anime.

[Purple Filth]

are there any animes where babies get murdered? cause that would be a pretty good anime.

possibly but there is a manga where one is murdered by using a blender.

[Great Rumbler]

are there any animes where babies get murdered? cause that would be a pretty good anime.

Hellsing OVA

[Phoenix Dark]

I've been told Eva is the Citizen Kane of anime

[Great Rumbler]

I've been told Eva is the Citizen Kane of anime

Err...no.

Eva is like David Lynch presents Ken Akamatsu's Gigantor.

[Himu]

I've been told Eva is the Citizen Kane of anime

[magus]

Kaworu was his sled

[Purple Filth]

are there any animes where babies get murdered? cause that would be a pretty good anime.

Hellsing OVA

Oh i forgot about that. 

[Madrun Badrun]

Might as well wait until Hellsing OVA is finished.

[Great Rumbler]

Might as well wait until Hellsing OVA is finished.

[Phoenix Dark]

episode 3

oh great, gay shit. reminding me of that dumb romantic montage towards the end of Casino Royale. hopefully Padme dies and Kenshin Anakin-san flies into a rage/kills everyone.

edit: that spinning thing, is it his totem? 

why would they tell him to go to town and pretend to be a merchant when the empire is looking for him? he'd stick out. he's gonna get caught dammit

fffu she's leaving her knife home

kinda confused, does she know Kenshin killed her fiance?

lol who didn't see this twist coming. traitor 

lol @ her bitch ass brother. and ahh she does know he killed her fiance

ffffuuu @ the end. Great episode

[Beezy]

weeaboo

[Himu]

They should have made Iizuka's betrayal more ambiguous.

Episode 3 is fantastic, episode 4 is great too.

[ferrarimanf355]

I heard about GenoCyber through TVTropes, but never watched it. Is it that bad?

[archie4208]

I heard about GenoCyber through TVTropes, but never watched it. Is it that bad?

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I don't even watch animu anymore and I knew about it.  It looks repulsive. 

[Great Rumbler]

Here's a review of Genocyber that I wrote:

I'm not a big fan of Koichi Ohata. I thought that MD Geist was laughably bad, that MD Geist 2 was horrible, that Cybernetic Guardian was forgettable, that Ikkitousen was laughable but a bit of a guilty pleasure, and that Burst Angel was mediocre but had its moments. He has yet to do anything that I truly enjoyed, nevertheless, I have derived some enjoyment from his works, on one level or another. Nothing, however, prepared me for Genocyber.

The story in Genocyber is...poorly told, at best. Scenes skip around with reckless abandon, never staying too long on any single point long enough for the viewer to get a feel for what's going on why its worth caring about. It also skips ahead, in the last two episodes, about two hundred years.

Considering that this is an OVA from the mid-90's, I'd expect it to at least have decent animation. There are a few scenes with decent animation, but most look like they were pulled directly from a cheap OVA that came out ten years prior. Now, I'm not a stickler for animation, but I do ask that it's at least accompanied by something interesting in the art. Genocyber doesn't have that either and it leaves the whole affair looking rather generic and boring. Some of the action scenes look okay, but those are few and far between. And very short.

Now, the characters. There are characters in Genocyber, I know this much. Unfortunately, there is not one character that is developed beyond a single line of description. You've got an evil genius, wait, scratch that, TWO evil geniuses that want to rule the world or something, a super-powerful girl that can't talk, her super-powerful sister who's sole purpose is to complain to her father about her sister, hard-nosed detective looking for the truth who disappears after midway through the first episode, and a host of others who serve no reasonable purpose. All five episodes have enough character development to fill a thimble halfway. The only characters that are even remotely likable are the two mains from the episodes 4 and 5, but, as with every other character in the series, they have little development.

Enjoyment? I didn't enjoy it. At all. The two and half hours that this OVA ran were beyond painful, easily amongst the most depressing and bloated I've ever put myself through. The shows takes everything it does with the utmost seriousness. There's no humor here, even unintentionally. At best, you can chuckle a bit at how bad the dub is, which I attempted to, but that really didn't last long since it the horribleness of the dub slowly bled into the horribleness of the rest of the show and succeeded in only making me feel more depressed about the whole affair.

I don't know why I gave this a 3 instead of a 1. I really don't.

[ferrarimanf355]

I heard about GenoCyber through TVTropes, but never watched it. Is it that bad?

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I don't even watch animu anymore and I knew about it.  It looks repulsive. 

Ouch. 

[Himu]

PD make your own anime thread.

[Phoenix Dark]

episode 4. then I'll make my own thread 

wtf was she apart of the plot?

shit's getting deep 

I hope her brother dies

fists vs sword 

omg no  :'(

yea that was pretty good. really liked the tunes btw, will dl soundtrack

Sooo this is the only good Samurai X?

[bork]

A sequel where Jubei does some shit and the Japanese Christian religion have a reincarnated Japanese Jesus. Fucking stupid bullshit. Ends with Japanese Jesus dying inside a burning shrine and some chicks fucking him for his seed before he dies and they run away. Shitshithsithist

It's not a sequel to Ninja Scroll.  The company that put out Resurrection took an unrelated series (they draw from some of the same source material) and used the Ninja Scroll name again because they figured they could make more money off it that way. 

In North America, the Ninja Resurrection anime films were marketed as sequels to Ninja Scroll, but were actually created by a separate animation studio. The only similarities they share is a lead character named Jubei. The Jubei in Ninja Resurrection was famed swordsman Yagyū Jūbei, not Jubei Kibagami from Ninja Scroll.

Ninja Scroll did get a pseudo-sequel TV series, but I don't think it ever came out in English.

[Joe Molotov]

Ninja Scroll did get a pseudo-sequel TV series, but I don't think it ever came out in English.

No, it did. I never watched it, though.

[Himu]

episode 4. then I'll make my own thread 

wtf was she apart of the plot?

shit's getting deep 

I hope her brother dies

fists vs sword 

omg no  :'(

yea that was pretty good. really liked the tunes btw, will dl soundtrack

Sooo this is the only good Samurai X?

Not exactly. Samurai X, or better known as Rurouni Kenshin, was originally a comic book. The MANGA is top form from beginning to end and includes the story you watched as one of its many story arcs. There is even a later story arc involving a grown up Enishi who tries to kill everyone Kenshin loves out of spite and revenge for what Kenshin did to his sister. The tv series has its moments but is mostly mediocre and is a stark contrast to what you just watched. The second ova, Remembrance, is...well, it's solid, but it'd be lost on someone who hasn't read the manga or watched the tv series. Not to mention that what you watched is the most realistic depiction of the Kenshin story there is. No secret moves, no yelling SOMETHINGSOMETHING STYLE, POOP IN YOUR FACE!!!!  so it'd probably be odd transitioning. I'd suggest reading the manga if you want more Kenshin, but if you want more anime, don't bother.

MAKE YOUR OWN ANIME THREAD, PD

[Himu]

Evangelion is a good series, I'd say great even. Most of my problem with it stems from the fans and the idolation Eva recieved back in the early 2000's late 90's. Jaydubya is 100% correct in regards to expectations in regards to Eva. Back when Eva's popularity was growing it was widely regarded as "the greatest anime" "the best anime" and more. I watched it, thought it was great, but the ending made me hate it.

While I won't say that Evangelion is the Citizen Kane of anime, when it comes to anime tv it's...close. It's a very influential tv show and a lot of anime follow its example to a tee and its influence on the industry is vast and not just in mecha anime.

That said, I'd say save Evangelion for when you're ready for tv series. Concentrate on movies first.