Final Fantasy XIV *crickets* (2.1!)

[Akala]

yeah, I know this will probably be *crickets*, but is anyone playing?

DL'ing the big patch, then I'm in. Hopefully. Not sure what server I'm going to, may just go to the GAF one since there are people on there...kinda want to go with Selbina, but w/e. Guess I'll figure it out~~

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Anyone want the 30 day guest pass?

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[Bebpo]

I would impulse buy this if I could jump right in and wander around and check it out right now because it's new and exciting.

But having to go buy a physical copy and sit through hours of patching basically kill that impulse.  So I'll probably never play it.

[Diunx]

mmos

[Great Rumbler]

I'll just keep playing the ones that are free.

[Rman]

Isn't it still using the archaic FFXI MMO mechanics?  I hear that it's FFXI with just a new coat of paint.

[Himu]

I hear it's like, the anti-ff11.

Whereas FF11 was party based FF14 is solo-based.

[G The Resurrected]

I've been playing in the open beta and it cemented my fears and concerns. As someone who has played FFXI and enjoyed the game a ton (spent 293 days on just one character in game) I found FFXIV to be everything I didn't want. Not only does the game limit how you play and enjoy leveling your character with Xp modifications based on how long you play. But you don't learn any skills for the duration of the game.

Best way to describe this game is a poor mans Free MMO. Having to "purchase" skills that only last a few days in game that in a normal MMO you'd keep. The economy of the game is also fucked as far as I'm concerned. Not only do you have to deal with Crysta farmers but you can now up and purchase in game money from SquareEnix. Which is kind of a cheat in a way, whereas in previous MMO's you'd work to earn in game money.

There is no sense of being part of a community in the game. All of your actions outside the cities feel more like small PSO mission's where you and a few friends go out into the world and do said quest then return. No sense of adventure or danger from other players getting to spawn points and areas before you. The only cool new thing is the store fronts which you can own and sell things. Its like having a mule sell your stuff 24/7 you can even make partnerships with other store fronts.

I'll continue to play for the next week or so but I'm not gonna buy the game I don't think.  I really wanted a proper FFXI sequel but I don't think I'll ever get it from SquareEnix.

[Akala]

Game is kinda huh so far. No idea what I'm doing lol

[Robo]

You mean a rich man's free MMO.  A really stupid rich man.

[Akala]

hey now.

[Enl]

I hear it's like, the anti-ff11.

Whereas FF11 was party based FF14 is solo-based.

Interest slightly rising. If that's true I will probably pick this up just to scrath that console JRPG itch FFXIII couldn't.

[BlackMage]

I hear it's like, the anti-ff11.

Whereas FF11 was party based FF14 is solo-based.

Interest slightly rising. If that's true I will probably pick this up just to scrath that console JRPG itch FFXIII couldn't.

SquareEnix is this generation's Acclaim. As Bob Saget once put it, "there's shit everywhere!"

[SantaC]

I hear it's like, the anti-ff11.

Whereas FF11 was party based FF14 is solo-based.

Interest slightly rising. If that's true I will probably pick this up just to scrath that console JRPG itch FFXIII couldn't.

SquareEnix is this generation's Acclaim. As Bob Saget once put it, "there's shit everywhere!"

Wizards & Warriors > Square Enix

I believe SE is the worst dev this gen.

[Bebpo]

I hear it's like, the anti-ff11.

Whereas FF11 was party based FF14 is solo-based.

Interest slightly rising. If that's true I will probably pick this up just to scrath that console JRPG itch FFXIII couldn't.

SquareEnix is this generation's Acclaim. As Bob Saget once put it, "there's shit everywhere!"

Wizards & Warriors > Square Enix

I believe SE is the worst dev this gen.

You believe a lot of things.  Like Yoshi Island DS being a masterpiece.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

http://brokentoys.org/2010/09/24/final-fantasy-xiv-triumph-of-the-horsebirds/

what a Chinese-outsourced clusterfuck

everyone who bought this should be ashamed!

[Bebpo]

Are you sure that's not just hyperbolic sky is falling article?

I have a hard time believing the translation is a mess like that.  You think there would have been outrage during the beta.


If it is true, then yeah, 10000 troops "wooooooow" SE deserves for it to bomb.

[magus]

if you follow the link to the NSFW site it now says that they fixed it but now there are mispelling errors everywhere and instead of "horsebirds" you have "chocopo"

[demi]

Enjoy your PS3 exclusive. Good thinkg Microsoft has such good quality control and would never have this rubbish on their machine.

[BlackMage]

Enjoy your PS3 exclusive. Good thinkg Microsoft has such good quality control and would never have this rubbish on their machine.

but they had FFXI

[demi]

And... from the sounds of it it is better than this turd. Your point

[archie4208]

Enjoy your PS3 exclusive. Good thinkg Microsoft has such good quality control and would never have this rubbish on their machine.

PC version.

[Akala]

If this was made by Chinese, they are getting much better!

After the initial (admittedly pretty drunk) confusion, I'm digging on the game. A lot of it is FFXI nostalgia total (OMG HI REZ GOOBUE), but there are a lot of things I like. The graphics are pretty great, I like the levequest idea so far, and I don't think I'll have the time to hit any xp penalties. I haven't run into any shady translation either, although now I'll be on the lookout! Seems pretty close to FFXI...most things are probably named by mashing random keys on the keyboard. There is also a Shantoto-like taru clone that gives you a linkpearl and wants you to call her with any info comparing manhoods. I digress.

All in all, it made me question why the hell can't SE make a mainline offline FF with a back to the basics old-school interesting world?!

[demi]

Enjoy your PS3 exclusive. Good thinkg Microsoft has such good quality control and would never have this rubbish on their machine.

PC version.

MS dont care about PC... sorry. They care about what sells.

[ManaByte]

If this was made by Chinese, they are getting much better!

After the initial (admittedly pretty drunk) confusion, I'm digging on the game. A lot of it is FFXI nostalgia total (OMG HI REZ GOOBUE), but there are a lot of things I like. The graphics are pretty great, I like the levequest idea so far, and I don't think I'll have the time to hit any xp penalties. I haven't run into any shady translation either, although now I'll be on the lookout! Seems pretty close to FFXI...most things are probably named by mashing random keys on the keyboard. There is also a Shantoto-like taru clone that gives you a linkpearl and wants you to call her with any info comparing manhoods. I digress.

All in all, it made me question why the hell can't SE make a mainline offline FF with a back to the basics old-school interesting world?!

You like 48 hour cooldowns on quests? ooookaaayyyyy....

[BlackMage]

And... from the sounds of it it is better than this turd. Your point

you can say this turd is better than that turd but it all stinks the same to me.

[demi]

PC gaming

[magus]

somebody found a glitch that nets you infinite XP
http://www.eorzeapedia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8563

[chronovore]

The TV ads for this are airing like mad in Japan now. I watched Animax for an hour at my in-laws tonight, and saw the same ad maybe 5 times. It's running on normal channels too, not just those featuring low geekery.

Sadly, I can't seem to locate the right ad on YouTube or elsewhere. It's a pretty neat live-action ad.

[Akala]

I'm enjoying docking around with it. Really like the crafting quests that give you materials. You also gain physical xp for crafting. Levelling very smoothly, but it's still early lol.

[Mupepe]

I'll be buying this soon.  I loved XI.

[Phoenix Dark]

is it true there's only like 8 quests lol

[ManaByte]

I think so. And each quest has a 48 hour cooldown which means you can only do it once every two days.

[BlackMage]

I'll be buying this soon.  I loved XI.

you'll be severely disappointed.

[ManaByte]

Currently only has a 2 star rating on Amazon.jp

[Phoenix Dark]

Next time I'm bored I'll check out the GAF thread for the game. Probably some apologists in there

does it have raids/dungeons?

[Diunx]

What the hell is square doing to this franchise?

[ManaByte]

What the hell is square doing to this franchise?

outsourcing it to china

[Akala]

I think so. And each quest has a 48 hour cooldown which means you can only do it once every two days.

FUD. Leves/quests reset every 36 hours.

There are a good few quests. Not anywhere close to WOW, but they ration them out over the different camps/zones/cities. True, there are only like 8-10 per section, but that's around what WOW was like at launch IIRC. Do the handful of quests for one zone then on to the next. There are also crafting quests for every discipline (pretty much 'maxe x of x', but still).

One thing it does much worse than WOW, or any other MMO I've ever played is (aside from not being clear about anything) is gear you up. The 'economy' is functionally fucked, and at the moment, it seems like the only way to really gear up is to make it yourself. I'm sure ways around this will come up soon.

Good Times.

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Fully expect the servers to crumble tomorrow.

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[Akala]

Groo, did you end up rolling Lind?

[Rman]

So SE is banning people who take advantage of the exp. bug instead of fixing it?

[ManaByte]

I guess the Chinese company they outsourced the game to can't fix it fast enough.

[BlackMage]

Oh look, Manabyte is trolling an MMO. What a surprise.
36 hour cooldown is better than some quests in FFXI which had SEVEN DAY cooldown.

The reason these have a cooldown is because they are a good way for casuals to level - if the hardcore zombies who play MMOs all day could do these without cooldowns, they wouldn't bother levelling elsewhere.

calling a shit game shit isn't trolling, it's just stating the obvious

[ManaByte]

I played the beta, which is basically the version they released to stores.

[Mupepe]

okay okay.

someone just tell me this, what are the main differences from XI?  That's all I care about.  I'm getting this either way.

[Bebpo]

How's the Uematsu soundtrack?  MMO are not my thing, but I really want to hear the ost.  FFXI's was great.

[Akala]

I'm firmly in the minority that thought uematsu's tracks were some of the weakest in xi, but so far the music has been good. Wish an oat came with the collector instead of the dumb diary.

[Akala]

OST. Fucking iPhone

[Akala]

holla 

[chronovore]

You got some glitter on your kitty at the discotheque?

[ManaByte]

As far as I can tell nothing's changed from the beta. The patcher still timed out like 10 times while trying to download a 400mb patch and the fucking piece of shit game still randomly crashes while just walking around.

[ManaByte]

Yup like 5 crashes in the last 10 minutes. Fuck this shit.

[Mupepe]

wait, no AH or mail system?  WTF???

I loved the AH. 

[ManaByte]

No AH, no mail. No Mog house. No ridable Chocobos. No Airships. YOU'RE WALKING BITCH.

There are Chocobo stables, but you can't ride them yet.

[ManaByte]

FFXIV is under emergency maintenance to translate the game from Chinese to Japanese for the Japanese release:
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/2853/ff14chinesejapanese.jpg

[Howard Alan Treesong]

wow, that is AMAZINGLY bad

lots of items and abilities that have been in katakana since the NES days got sudden and impossible-to-read kanji titles. what the HELL.

[Mupepe]

well fuck.  I'm buying this today anyways.  I don't give a flying fuck.  :'(

[ManaByte]

Standard edition isn't selling as good in Japan as the CE:
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20100927-00000020-zdn_pc-sci

[ManaByte]

wow, that is AMAZINGLY bad

lots of items and abilities that have been in katakana since the NES days got sudden and impossible-to-read kanji titles. what the HELL.

That's not even the worst part. They're wrong Kanji. They are gibberish words. That screenshot was taken by a commenter from Japan on my site for proof it was made in China while fighting off some kid in Italy who thinks the Chinese thing was a 4chan prank.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

wow, that is AMAZINGLY bad

lots of items and abilities that have been in katakana since the NES days got sudden and impossible-to-read kanji titles. what the HELL.

That's not even the worst part. They're wrong Kanji. They are gibberish words. That screenshot was taken by a commenter from Japan on my site for proof it was made in China while fighting off some kid in Italy who thinks the Chinese thing was a 4chan prank.

yes that's what I meant by "impossible-to-read" 

I didn't mean "for Westerners" I mean they aren't words

[ManaByte]

FF fanboys just can't accept it's made in China. It's like a personal insult to them if it wasn't made in Japan.