PS VITA thread(embargo over,previews overload)

[maxy]

COD

[Purple Filth]

COD heading to NGP as expected.

[Fortus]

Yeah, at this rate I doubt they'll announce a price. That's probably being saved for E3. Until then the media can go crazy and build lots of hype for it, thus raining on the 3DS' party.

Unless as Stringer said they price match 3DS which I...kinda doubt

[maxy]

Or announce it, at any rate. There's a COD logo superimposed on a picture of an NGP on the screen. Well done.

[Shaka Khan]

wonder when they'll show the television docking station with hdmi output

They showed one? So does that rules out video output from the device itself or in the case of HDMIs only?

[maxy]

Kaz in on stage recapping and thanking his partners. There's a lisdt of developers who've announced there suport. It's pretty much everyone - I spot Rockstar, PopCap and Ubisoft, as well as the entire Japanese industry.

ahhh

[Eel O'Brian]

if i hear about some sort of red read game coming to this thing i'll preorder one as soon as they're up

[Shaka Khan]

Show's over. No price.

$499 at the E3 conference. Calling it.

[Eel O'Brian]

wonder when they'll show the television docking station with hdmi output

They showed one? So does that rules out video output from the device itself or in the case of HDMIs only?

nah, just speculating

[maxy]

if i hear about some sort of red read game coming to this thing i'll preorder one as soon as they're up

We might have to wait a lot.Event is over

[Fortus]

Show's over. No price.

$499 at the E3 conference. Calling it.

If we're staking claims for launch price...$349

[Eel O'Brian]

they won't miss this holiday season

they might not have a lot of bigger games at launch, but they'll have a couple of easy ports and a fuckton of iphone games ready to go

[Purple Filth]

isn't GDC coming soon.

possible price point there or save it for E3.

[Himu]

$300

[Shaka Khan]

So the specs so far are:

?Next generation portable entertainment system (codename: NGP) ?

CPU
ARM® CortexTM-A9 core (4 core)

GPU
SGX543MP4+

External Dimensions
Approx. 182.0 x 18.6 x 83.5mm (width x height x depth) (tentative, excludes largest projection)

Screen
(Touch screen)
5 inches (16:9), 960 x 544, Approx. 16 million colors, OLED
Multi touch screen (capacitive type)

Rear touch pad
Multi touch pad (capacitive type)

Cameras
Front camera, Rear camera

Sound
Built-in stereo speakers
Built-in microphone

Sensors
Six-axis motion sensing system (three-axis gyroscope, three-axis accelerometer), Three-axis electronic compass

Location
Built-in GPS
Wi-Fi location service support

Keys / Switches
PS button
Power button
Directional buttons (Up/Down/Right/Left)
Action buttons (Triangle, Circle, Cross, Square)
Shoulder buttons (Right/Left)
Right stick, Left stick
START button, SELECT button
Volume buttons (+/-)
Wireless communications

Mobile network connectivity (3G)
IEEE 802.11b/g/n (n = 1x1)(Wi-Fi) (Infrastructure mode/Ad-hoc mode)
Bluetooth® 2.1+EDR ?A2DP/AVRCP/HSP?

I'm glad that "NGP" is more likely to be a placeholder/codename, because it really sucks.

[Eel O'Brian]

if i hear about some sort of red read game coming to this thing i'll preorder one as soon as they're up

We might have to wait a lot.Event is over

i meant in the future

[Fortus]

What a really shitty event. System is a technology beast but nothing really important talked about too much. THe thing doesn't even have a name yet officially (but Kaz kept calling it the PSP2).

The big thing I got from this "meeting" was that PS3 code is easy to port over. 2-way street there possibly which Kojima was talking about

[Shaka Khan]

isn't GDC coming soon.

possible price point there or save it for E3.

Yup, it would stupid if they reveal everything right now when there are more media events coming in the near future. They only needed to kick start the hype machine. And honestly, they succeeded in getting me hyped.

[Eel O'Brian]

that thing is like a cornucopia of ridiculous excess

i want one

[Fortus]

Which is great if all you want is portable PS3 games. I was hoping for something more unique to the NGP but obviously that's not a popular opinion tonight. Maybe Sony will bundle NGP games with PS3 titles?

And charge 20 or 30 bucks to unlock...

[Eel O'Brian]

probably won't get a price until E3, they don't want to kill any hype momentum with another easy meme

[Cormacaroni]

Hey, I'm impressed. Sony actually executed this thing pretty flawlessly. Games running in real time, clearly playable...that's a big step forward! No obvious blunders apart from perhaps the carts, but that is offset by all the download options. And Call of Duty and Monster Hunter ready to go? UE3 running? Uncharted running? If it can do all that, it can handle any old balls the likes of Koei dream up. Selling apps and games for it is also a very good move, if a tad predictable. That pretty much guarantees that you'll always have something to do, or some reason to look at the store. That's not the case right now.

Then again, it's totally a hardcore machine, and it might take years to get a decent install base. I have no idea. But I want one! All I've been asking for since PSP was unveiled was a portable FPS with that level of presentation with decent controls. Looks like we'll get oodles of them, and plenty more besides.

[Purple Filth]

yea i guess they gonna observe the responses right now.

[Shaka Khan]

Hey, I'm impressed. Sony actually executed this thing pretty flawlessly. Games running in real time, clearly playable...that's a big step forward! No obvious blunders apart from perhaps the carts, but that is offset by all the download options. And Call of Duty and Monster Hunter ready to go? UE3 running? Uncharted running? If it can do all that, it can handle any old balls the likes of Koei dream up. Selling apps and games for it is also a very good move, if a tad predictable. That pretty much guarantees that you'll always have something to do, or some reason to look at the store. That's not the case right now.

Then again, it's totally a hardcore machine, and it might take years to get a decent install base. I have no idea. But I want one! All I've been asking for since PSP was unveiled was a portable FPS with that level of presentation with decent controls. Looks like we'll get oodles of them, and plenty more besides.

3G + capacitive touchscreens on front and back is definitely there to rival the app store, not Nintendo. I have no idea how they're gonna approach it beyond what we've already seen, but it's already ten times smarter than PS Minis. They're still around, by the way. I kid you not!

[Eel O'Brian]

i now shift my guess to somewhere between $350 and $399

shine on, you crazy sony motherfuckers

[Fortus]

I'm wondering about those carts. Sony could piggyback PSP2 ports on each PS3 bluray and once you pay to unlock it, tether the PSP2 and dl to its hd. They did mention a hd for the device didn't they or was that just leaked specs?

[Van Cruncheon]

good god could nintendo seem even MORE like penny-pinching shitheads, now

[ch1nchilla]

STILL  at you folks thinking it will cost more than $299 / Ą29,800

[Van Cruncheon]

people are just used to nintendo aiming for nutty profits on each unit sold, instead of the good ol' days where great tech was sold at a loss. what's worse is that people justify the former as somehow GOOD for them. "well, as long as my beloved company makes a profit off of me -- hooray!" they chirp. the rest of us, though, expect the razor to be cheap even as we get fucked on the blades -- as long as we get a damn fine razor.

[Raban]

Any videos uploaded to the internets? I missed the live show.

[Shaka Khan]

STILL  at you folks thinking it will cost more than $299 / ¥29,800

The specs say differently but if Sony wants to lose money, so be it.

It's possible.

iphone 4's cost of materials estimated at $188 in june 2010. This is going to be 1.5 years later, with similar features + a higher end cpu/gpu + big OLED display.

$300 should be possible. Will it happen? No idea.

For those panicking over price, there'll be an SKU, under $300 guaranteed, they'll probably won't even have to take a loss to reach that price point either.

Too bad it won't happen, but I highly doubt it's gonna be another 599 blunder. 300-400 is guaranteed.

[Eel O'Brian]

i WISH for $299 because i give not the fucks whether they make money on it or not

i KNOW it's gonna be $350+ because dem specs and dat screen

[Cormacaroni]

yeah, and there is enough hardware in there to make some pretty interesting apps and casual games, I think. Then again, in a year or two this thing will be totally eclipsed by cellphone tech. But it's a smart inclusion - they didn't obviously fuck it up (yet!), which is major progress.

[Van Cruncheon]

the ps3 was sold at a loss initially. the psp was sold at a loss initially. the ps2 was sold at a loss initially. the psone was sold at a loss initially.

see, this is the one good thing about sony (and microsoft): they soak the hit up front to give you something BETTER than shitty last-gen tech.

[maxy]

Well,my hype has dwindled,spec were "known" for ages and there are like zero games that I'm interested in...potential,potential
I also wonder how good all this things will work...ready for launch,few years after,never?
Once hype goes down,I predict lots of disappointments once games are shown and delays begin...it seems that almost everyone has some tech demo(port) running,but nothing concrete


No talk about the battery,hmm...maybe some updated specs arrive
Price will probably be at E3

[Van Cruncheon]

the ps3 was a special case, though -- ken's pet tech made for some nasty factory retooling, and the blu-ray drives were NOT cheap. for all of the fancy specs in the psp2, it is based on existing tech with existing fab lines. it's all off the shelf.

[Fortus]

The reason they showed the MGS4 cutscene was to demonstrate how easy it is to port over existing PS3 assets and code. This is what got me thinking that Sony may have some strategy along the lines of "build once-sell twice" for a lot of their future titles

[Shaka Khan]

Well,my hype has dwindled,spec were "known" for ages and there are like zero games that I'm interested in...potential,potential
I also wonder how good all this things will work...ready for launch,few years after,never?
Once hype goes down,I predict lots of disappointments once games are shown and delays begin...it seems that almost everyone has some tech demo(port) running,but nothing concrete


No talk about the battery,hmm...maybe some updated specs arrive
Price will probably be at E3

I know this is gonna very sfaggish of me, but for a more comprehensive look on the games, you'll probably have to Wait™ for the biggest gaming conference of the year.

the ps3 was a special case, though -- ken's pet tech made for some nasty factory retooling, and the blu-ray drives were NOT cheap. for all of the fancy specs in the psp2, it is based on existing tech with existing fab lines. it's all off the shelf.

Good point. Keep the hype alive

[Bebpo]

I'm still catching up on what was shown but when I hear NEW WIPEOUT & NEW HOT SHOTS GOLF I know I'm set.

I don't get how it's so easy to port from PS3 though.  Is the system really powerful enough that you can take a 720p PS3 game, drop the resolution to whatever rez PSP2 is and PSP2 will be strong enough to run it at a decent framerate?  I'd think they'd need to go in and cut down the geometry/textures/models/effects which is a lot more time consuming. 

[Shaka Khan]

I'm really glad they put more thought into the sticks, they got rid of those awful nubs altogether instead of just adding a second one.

[maxy]

MGS4 tech demo runs at 20 fps

[ch1nchilla]

The idea that it will cost more than $299 baffles me. Honestly.  

[Sho Nuff]

This looks boneriffic. That being said, I think the people who would be developing the best games on this are pretty much devoted to iDevices at this point, not sure how much crossover we will see.

I really wonder who will go balls out in developing on this thing.

[Shaka Khan]

Size comparisons:

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[close]

That UI is raping my eyes. Simply the worst thing about it so far.

[Fortus]

MGS4 tech demo runs at 20 fps

How much time and with what tools did they accomplish that though? Tools evolve and improve...E3 should be REALLY interesting

[Cormacaroni]

The idea that it will cost more than $299 baffles me. Honestly.  

INFLEYSHUN

[Cormacaroni]

This looks boneriffic. That being said, I think the people who would be developing the best games on this are pretty much devoted to iDevices at this point, not sure how much crossover we will see.

I really wonder who will go balls out in developing on this thing.

If it's nothing more than a great port box, it could still be pretty good though! The PSP was a port box, but a frustrating one. Only certain ports made sense. With this many control options, practically anything outside of nerdo PC RPSes would work.

[Shaka Khan]

I think the people who would be developing the best games on this are pretty much devoted to iDevices at this point, not sure how much crossover we will see.

I personally think that the people who would be developing the best games on this are already devoted to the DS and PSP, but it would be a nice bonus if some iOS devoted devs crossover, Sony is definitely trying to lure them in.

[maxy]

MGS4 tech demo runs at 20 fps

How much time and with what tools did they accomplish that though? Tools evolve and improve...E3 should be REALLY interesting

dunno,EG said that(Kojima)
Kinda like he wanted to show it's possible

Oh and apparently it plays PSP games,but you have to redownload them

guess why?

[Fortus]

That's what piqued my interest, the fact that he did it at all. Is Sony working on some type of compilier that they can show devs and say "Look if you make a PS3 title you put the code in here, push a button and shit out a $30 value add on with a PSP2 port"

[magus]

so basicaly there is no real news other than it has 2 sticks,a touch screen,uses SD cards and apparently runs ps3 like game?

boooooooooring

[Cormacaroni]

3G on top of wifi, gps, rear-mounted touchpad, accelerometer, compass, and front and rear cameras?

[Cormacaroni]

Wonder what else you want out of a game system, a reach around?

[pilonv1]

I think whoever suggested the Wifi and Wifi & 3G models will be spot on. $299 and $349/399.

[maxy]

MGS4 tech demo runs at 20 fps

How much time and with what tools did they accomplish that though? Tools evolve and improve...E3 should be REALLY interesting

dunno,EG said that(Kojima)
Kinda like he wanted to show it's possible

Oh and apparently it plays PSP games,but you have to redownload them

guess why?

So are they going to put the entire PSP catalog up for download?

Dunno,but they changed security keys apparently

[magus]

Wonder what else you want out of a game system, a reach around?

no no no,that's not what i meant,what i meant is that i seems to understand that ultimately no real software was shown and no price was announced so... *shrugs*

[Cormacaroni]

Dunno, Uncharted and Monster Hunter were shown, and looked pretty solid. E3 is obviously gonna be the place for all the reveals.

Would love to see something crazy like Diablo III on this. It could totally work with touch screen and motion controls and the touch pad. How about a portable Mass Effect!

[maxy]

Wonder what else you want out of a game system, a reach around?

no no no,that's not what i meant,what i meant is that i seems to understand that ultimately no real software was shown and no price was announced so... *shrugs*

hype is going strong now magus,lay low

[maxy]

btw,EG editor posted this

Hi folks, any questions about NGP for Sony Europe boss Andrew House? I'm interviewing him in half an hour. And yes, I know - price and battery life!

So you can ask something if you have an account or I can ask them for you

[Cormacaroni]

Wonder what else you want out of a game system, a reach around?

no no no,that's not what i meant,what i meant is that i seems to understand that ultimately no real software was shown and no price was announced so... *shrugs*

hype is going strong now magus,lay low

Haha, if you're not excited today, you never will be
I don't even want or need a handheld personally.