PS VITA thread(embargo over,previews overload)

[Corporal]

Like with the PSP I predict it will annihilate the Nintendo offering. Maybe this time it'll work.

Software is kinda twofold for me so far. It looks like they really don't have all that many games so far, but from what they have shown some are reasonably interesting to me, enough to buy in at launch. Never played MH3p, only MHTri, so that alone would probably keep me busy.

Hardware is, for lack of a better word, porn. Price, existence and extent of regional locks as well as battery life will be the defining issues with this. I want the 3G version (I'm sure they'll split into 3G&WLAN and WLAN only), and that shit's gonna be expensive.

Really hope they improve the UI some more (or allow extensive reskinning). Still, it looks like it'll work, so whatevs. I lived through a horrible UI with the PS1, I will survive again. I'm a trooper like that.

For those with short memory, it looked like this:

spoiler (click to show/hide)

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[close]

And that name...  Jeez.

[maxy]

Wonder what else you want out of a game system, a reach around?

no no no,that's not what i meant,what i meant is that i seems to understand that ultimately no real software was shown and no price was announced so... *shrugs*

hype is going strong now magus,lay low

Haha, if you're not excited today, you never will be
I don't even want or need a handheld personally.

Oh I can be excited,bought PSP just to play GTA games(played lots of other games of course)...what to say i like the franchise

When something like that gets concrete info,like a real launch date,I will be hyped even if PSP2 costs 600 euros
Of course it would have to be something different,not something that i could get on other platforms

[maxy]

btw,EG editor posted this

Hi folks, any questions about NGP for Sony Europe boss Andrew House? I'm interviewing him in half an hour. And yes, I know - price and battery life!

So you can ask something if you have an account or I can ask them for you

Region-locking?

Did that,PS2 emulation too

Well see if he asks him

[maxy]

The recently announced PSP2, codenamed Next Generation Portable, has a battery life of between four and five hours, Eurogamer has been told by a source.

Six to eight hours of life was Sony's original target, Eurogamer understands.

Sony announced the NGP this morning at a Tokyo press, but failed to discuss the device's battery life.

It did, however, reveal specifications.

The NGP boasts a ARM Cortex A9 (4 core) PU, a SGX543MP4+ GPU, a five inch (16:9), 960 x 544, 16 million colours OLED screen, and a multi touch pad on the back.

Then there's a Sixaxis motion sensing system, a three-axis electronic compass, and built-in GPS and Wi-Fi location service support.

As for wireless, expect 3G mobile network connectivity, Wi-Fi and Bluetooth support.

The NGP's four to five hour battery life is similar to that of the Nintendo 3DS. Depending on the level of brightness used and whether you're playing a 3DS-specific game, the Nintendo 3DS should last between three and five hours on a single charge.

NGP pricing is also yet to be revealed, but Eurogamer was told this morning that Sony will "make a loss".

[Shaka Khan]

So the battery life is basically the same as the PSP. I can live with that. I'm still hoping that turning all extra shit off (wifi, 3G, GPS, and turning down the brightness) would yield more time, especially since it has an OLED screen, but I doubt it.

[Shaka Khan]

NGP pricing is also yet to be revealed, but Eurogamer was told this morning that Sony will "make a loss".

So it might end up being cheaper than expected after all.

[pilonv1]

It could be anything though, it might cost sony $900. It might cost them $200

[fistfulofmetal]

looks super hot. gonna buy

[Damian79]

It is bigger than the psp.  It showed that it would be the norm for using a backpack to carry it around.  The japanese would probably get cramps using the thing.  Mark my words, the ngp will be less of a success than the psp.

[cool breeze]

oh my god

Sony

[cool breeze]

one thread on gaf confirms the 3DS 3 to 5 hour battery life is on the lowest setting, maybe 25% longer without 3D or something.

another thread is about how the PSP NEXT GEN PORTABLE battery life is 4 to 5 hours.  what?

[maxy]

To be fair Sony can now talk all they want,NGP is scheduled for Christmas release.

[magus]

everytime i read NGP my brains read that as neo-geo pocket instead of next gen portable

what does that tell about me bore?

[Shaka Khan]

That you're probably pregnant. Congrats.

[magus]

 

[cool breeze]

engadget tries to get a size comparison between an old psp and th NEXT GEN PORTABLE:http://www.engadget.com/photos/sony-ngp-vs-psp-and-psp-go-fight/#3823520

also, I just noticed the d-pad is closer together (as in less segmented) 

have any videos shown the sticks moved? do they slide still or tiltn ow?

[ManaByte]

They tilt. They're real analogs.

[cool breeze]

 

what about hdmi/tv out?
 

[EmCeeGrammar]

Lazy Op not including pics.  I gather its basically an iphone 4 with buttons?  That is kinda appealing, I must admit.  But uh, playstation properties and Call of Duty isn't.  With the capacitive touch screen though they would be wise to start courting ios developers.

Just joshing about Call of Duty, if its competent that could be really big with the play anywhere capabilitiy of 3g.

[demi]

Looks ugly, both OS and shell. Powerful as fuck though. Needs to go back in the oven, for sure.

[EmCeeGrammar]

I was also hoping they would do the slider thing again, but I can see why they didn't because of the sticks.  What have they said about software prices?

[cool breeze]

http://www.gamespot.com/ngp/action/uncharted/video/6287018/uncharted-working-title-reveal-trailer-1#toggle_video
http://www.gamespot.com/ngp/action/littledeviants/video/6287019/next-generation-portable-first-look?&tag=stitialclk;gamespace#toggle_video

real analog sticks

but ffs, don't make gimmicky touch bullshit like in that uncharted video required

and yeah, the thing looks pretty beastly.  is this the final design?

[EmCeeGrammar]

I keep having to cross reference the gaf thread cus you guys are mucho flojo.  I see its using cards, what are the GB sizes of the cards?

[demi]

btw the OP sucks. Maxy you failed me. not a single pic.

[maxy]

lies

[cool breeze]

[youtube=560,345]jKsWSzAe5R4[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]0GLG71IouR8[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]x4AXgpTreEs[/youtube]

that's the conference if you cared to see it

I wonder how many of those games are ports and how many are new.  Uncharted is by Sony Bend (Syphon Filter PSP, Resistance Retribution) and that's new, but the rest looked like the same things.  I'd still buy Wipeout HD again, though.

[maxy]

Interesting thing,no tv-out

I don't see it mentioned anywhere

[WrikaWrek]

Once hacked, greatest portable device ever.

[SantaC]

Once hacked, greatest portable device ever.

and someone will get sued 

[cool breeze]

Interesting thing,no tv-out

I don't see it mentioned anywhere

yeah, I wonder what they will do.

Video reel showed them using touch screen playing these games.  Maybe they release a new wireless controller with a touch pad on it or something.  I'd still want it to play PSP games and whatever else.

and I'm excited they showed a PSP game using dual sticks.

[bork]

Interesting thing,no tv-out

I don't see it mentioned anywhere

Could be like the PSP Go, where the TV-out cable uses the same port as the AC does.

[cool breeze]

Yeah, Monster Hunter Portable 3rd (probably 'G' by then) playable with the right stick for the camera is going to secure them a pretty healthy launch in Japan alone.

I wonder about that.  Either Portable 3rd is re-released on this new format, or it is for the downloadable version.  For some reason I remember hearing that the Japanese aren't big into downloading games.  The actual UMD would be useless on the NGP.

[fistfulofmetal]

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/285764/news/sony-ngp-7-more-official-psp2-shots/

looks like fucking sex. buying one no doubt

[iconoclast]

New Wipeout? Sold.

[AdmiralViscen]

I want to know more about storage. Those are gonna be some big ass file sizes.

It may be time for Blu SD technology.

[maxy]

EG

Multiple versions of the NGP will launch from late 2011, each with Wi-Fi capability. Only one, however, will also feature 3G.

"The first thing to clarify, which I'm not sure the presentation did a perfect job of doing today, is that all of the devices will have Wi-Fi capability; a separate SKU will have 3G," House said.

"So the user gets a choice. Wi-Fi is available wherever, which clearly is the most important aspect of connectivity and that connected experience; 3G will be a subset of that."

Sony is currently "working hard" on 3G partnerships. House confirmed there will be some cost to the user for 3G services.

[iconoclast]

Wait, they're actually calling it "Next Gen Portable" ? Sony

[Dickie Dee]

Any confirmation on that not being a codename?

[ManaByte]

No, it's a working title.

[Eel O'Brian]

hmm, my original assessment may have been closer after all, $299 Wifi with 16GB, $399+ with 3G and 32GB

[ManaByte]

I'm SHOCKED that Gran Turismo 5 NGP Edition wasn't shown off for a 2017 release.

[Damian79]

It is bigger than the psp.  It showed that it would be the norm for using a backpack to carry it around.  The japanese would probably get cramps using the thing.  Mark my words, the ngp will be less of a success than the psp.

From the size comparison it doesn't look much bigger than the 3000, about the 1000's size, and it's definitely more slim than the 1000.  Also, it no longer has a UMD drive, which means it's actually probably lighter than the original PSP.  I don't anticipate the Japanese having any problems here.  And even if it required a backpack to carry it around, uh, that's not much of a hindrance for Japan.  Almost every man in this country carries a murse.

You are right.  It is about an inch longer diagonally than the 3000.

[maxy]

Reposting this,added to OP

Multiple versions of the NGP will launch from late 2011, each with Wi-Fi capability. Only one, however, will also feature 3G.

"The first thing to clarify, which I'm not sure the presentation did a perfect job of doing today, is that all of the devices will have Wi-Fi capability; a separate SKU will have 3G," House said.

"So the user gets a choice. Wi-Fi is available wherever, which clearly is the most important aspect of connectivity and that connected experience; 3G will be a subset of that."

Sony is currently "working hard" on 3G partnerships. House confirmed there will be some cost to the user for 3G services.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-01-27-sony-outlines-ngp-asynchronous-gaming


Also from that article

Sony has moved to calm excitement that its Next Generation Portable will allow users to game online while out and about using its 3G function.

Actual simultaneous gameplay will "depend very much on the degree of data traffic that's being driven by that online game" SCEE boss Andrew House told Eurogamer.

What is perhaps more realistic, however, is asynchronous gaming.

Explained House: "One area that I'm particularly excited about is the idea of asynchronous gaming, whereby the game experience is existing either on a PS3 or on your NGP, and then the 3G ability is the real-time, you know, 'you're under attack, you've got to go do something,' messaging, just keeping that link with you, which clearly is not very heavy in terms of data traffic, but creates a whole different sense to the experience."

[BlueTsunami]

hmm, my original assessment may have been closer after all, $299 Wifi with 16GB, $399+ with 3G and 32GB

A $299 SKU would be sick but I would both version will have 3G. I guess I could live with Wi-Fi. If anything one could get one of those portable 3G devices that creates a wireless hotspot for Wi-Fi devices and use 3G from there. A little cumbersome but a route that could be taken.

Edit: Just looked it up, its the Verizon MiFi 2200 3G Portable device. I would imagine they would make a 4G one too. So basically all that really matters is the PSP has WiFi.

[SantaC]

3G is last gen. 4G is already here.

[ManaByte]

4G isn't as widely available as 3G and still won't be even later this year.

[Diunx]

Looks hot hot hot

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it's a monstrosity

Comics

[maxy]

[youtube=560,345]#[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]V667dbmfnOQ[/youtube]

[MyNameIsMethodis]

Sony

[demi]

Should we be worried about the lack of J-Games? Besides the usual Sony IPs and such... Wild ARMs 6 on PSP2? Yes please

[Sho Nuff]

Sony just firebombed the portable gaming ghetto!

The question is, can J-devs deliver on rock peenor hardware and will western devs care :/

(Day one of course)

[Smooth Groove]

3rd parties better deliver because those Sony franchises that weren't systems sellers for the PS3 aren't gonna be NGP system sellers either.  It's a really strange decision from Sony to be once again focusing on Uncharted, Killzone and Resistance when those franchises would probably do even worse on a portable. 

 

[cool breeze]

I still can't believe this exists 

I love that Sony is still crazy without Kutaragi and goes for broke by pumping as much technology into a small box.  Makers of the best portables

MAKE DOT BELIEVE


and it's not just the visuals.  A capacitive multitouch high res OLED PLUS a back touch screen because why the fuck not.  two real analog sticks.  motion controls.  two probably good resolution cameras.  Buttfuckusis.

the price is either going to be hilarious for Sony or Nintendo.

[maxy]

Take is as a rumor

Some third party dev twitter said something like "wait until tomorrow"
Maybe they postponed third party announcements

I refuse to believe that Square has nothing to show

Bunch of first party ports and COD...that can't be right,right?

[Smooth Groove]

Don't know if this has been posted yet but here's a white one:



The sticks look like they will be much better than the crap PSP nub but the D-Pad seems to be a step back.  

Overall, the design is a bit disappointing, considering how sleek the PSP-GO is but I guess that's the price to pay for having an extra stick and touchpad.  

[cool breeze]

d-pad actually looks way better since they're moving away from segmented.  hopefully it isn't clicky.

and initially I wanted a slide design, but I'd much rather have a BEAST BRICK with real analog sticks than sliders.

this thing is such a beast.  definitely a market in self defense.  who needs mace or a taser when you can drop one of these on a dude's foot and shatter it.


and it seems like they're selling two models, one 3g, one without.  I'll get the one without unless they try to make the higher end one more premium (maybe internal memory or something).

[Smooth Groove]

I'm still skeptical about the processing power.  At such a small resolution, a fast single core GPU makes more sense than a Quad-core GPU.  That GPU could be outdated like the RSX in two years.  

The demos that have been shown don't really convince me of PS3 equivalent power.  The image quality is really nice in that Uncharted demo, possibly even better than on the PS3 games but there's so little going on.  Same thing with MGS4.  It reminded me of the dog and pony show that Nintendo staged with the Resident Evil demo which got everyone crooning about 3DS having PS3/360 graphics.  

[tiesto]

Tim Sweeney from Epic

It's smoother with more effects, to be fair, and Tim says NGP has roughly four times the performance we've seen on any previous mobile platform. They also like the console-style operating system with efficient control over memory and resources.

Tim Sweeney

Maybe he'll port ZZT to it.

This thing looks fucking HOT. Are games downloadable only or will there be physical games?

[Smooth Groove]

Oh, there's no doubt that NGP's graphical capabilities destroy 3DS' but it also looks to have a high possibility to be an even bigger failure than the PSP.  

[cool breeze]

The main difference between the Resident Evil thing is that the one at E3 was like a concept video.  The playable one looks worse, but still quite good and probably the best thing on the 3DS.  Uncharted NEXT GENERATION PORTABLE was a demo that was played on stage.  It's definitely not PS3 quality, but it is very impressive for a portable. 

I don't want to compare Uncharted outright with Uncharted 2 or something, because the animated were a bit poor and the environments smaller, it could be because the game isn't finished (assuming it is a launch title, there is another ~10 months if they're aiming for christmas.   Same for Resident Evil 3DS.  And things like Killzone looked worse than the Killzones on PS3.

That said, even in two years I don't know what competition there would be.  Assuming the 3DS is successful, which it will be, we're looking at another ~5 years of PS2-era graphics from that.  iPhone has improved crazy fast over the years and we'll see what happens with that.  Uh, and the Panasonic Jungle.

Tim Sweeney from Epic

It's smoother with more effects, to be fair, and Tim says NGP has roughly four times the performance we've seen on any previous mobile platform. They also like the console-style operating system with efficient control over memory and resources.

Tim Sweeney

Maybe he'll port ZZT to it.

This thing looks fucking HOT. Are games downloadable only or will there be physical games?

physical cartridges like the ds/3ds.  no more optical media umd stuff.