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« Reply #900 on: January 28, 2011, 03:55:25 PM »
I wonder if Microsoft would ever refuse a Gears sequel.

Maybe if America became Japan.

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« Reply #901 on: January 28, 2011, 04:57:12 PM »
I'd rather have Bulletstorm on it.

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« Reply #902 on: January 28, 2011, 05:05:38 PM »
I want MGS5 for ps3/psp2 :hyper :hyper :hyper
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« Reply #903 on: January 28, 2011, 05:22:06 PM »
I want MGS5 for ps3/psp2 :hyper :hyper :hyper

At least it'll be on youtube if you still can't afford either system by then.    :spin

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« Reply #904 on: January 28, 2011, 06:07:57 PM »
I want MGS5 for ps3/psp2 :hyper :hyper :hyper

At least it'll be on youtube if you still can't afford either system by then.    :spin
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« Reply #905 on: January 28, 2011, 06:24:30 PM »
I want MGS5 for ps3/psp2 :hyper :hyper :hyper

At least it'll be on youtube if you still can't afford either system by then.    :spin

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« Reply #906 on: January 28, 2011, 06:35:26 PM »
I have multiple friends with ps3s no need to buy it :smug
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« Reply #907 on: January 28, 2011, 07:31:16 PM »
Sort of want. I'll wait for some third-party reveals at E3 before I splurge.
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« Reply #908 on: January 28, 2011, 08:49:22 PM »
Uncharted is being done by Sony Bend.

Syphon Filter in the Jungle with an emulated Bubsy 3D unlockable?
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« Reply #909 on: January 28, 2011, 10:08:00 PM »
It's weird how Sony Bend went from the developer of one of the worst games ever to the developer of one of the best portable games ever.
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« Reply #910 on: January 28, 2011, 11:20:32 PM »
I want MGS5 for ps3/psp2 :hyper :hyper :hyper

At least it'll be on youtube if you still can't afford either system by then.    :spin

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« Reply #911 on: January 29, 2011, 09:23:27 AM »
I wonder if they'll update PS1/PSP games so you can use the second stick?
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« Reply #912 on: January 29, 2011, 10:00:28 AM »
If they are smart at least some of the devs will update the games for dual stick.  I believe they showed Monster Hunter using two sticks....would be so awesome if more of them did this.


Probably not though  :-\
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« Reply #913 on: January 29, 2011, 10:01:20 AM »
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« Reply #914 on: January 29, 2011, 10:22:35 AM »
well, i think i'm taking a break from the internet until this shit storm dies down because - frankly - i'm sick of seeing the bullshit and i'm probably aiding the cause.

here is how i see it as XFE and world famous Sony Hater :

Sony are conducting a PR masterclass and Nintendo fanboys are being ABSOLUTELY schooled. $299 is a LOT OF MONEY for a handheld and that's the price it will be - they are simply letting the other side do all the work. $249 is a lot of money too to be quite frank but Nintendo have played right into Sony's hands as have their fans by raising the "IT WILL BE $$$$$" card. Yes, i know - they'll point to PS3 - however, why are we taking the ONE fuck up as the norm on pricing?! The more time Sony don't announce the price the more Nintendo fans will fill the internet with "$600!!!" or "1 hour Max battery life" - thing is - we already KNOW these two aren't going to be true but in their rampant hatred they are repeating this over and over again. What ARSEHOLES they are all going to look when Sony drop $299... and let's face it ... the first thing they'll say is "... it's still too expensive, i was expecting $249".

The arguments have gone beyond distinguished mentally-challenged - the PSP2 by being *too* powerful is the kiss of doom for portable gaming but , apparently, "gamecube level" is not. PSP2 pushes the budget all the way up to PS3 levels and that's not on! plus people want bite size portable games like Ocarina of time that takes 20 hours to complete rather than the frankly TOO LONG games that the PSP2 will show us ;)

Also - what is the fucking point of being a video games "journalist" if you are just a rabid fanboy?! It happens on all sides but isn't the point to be at least marginally impartial and objective in your appraisal? And some of the shit coming out of these peoples mouths.... fuck me. I'm glad not being a filthy poor means i don't have to rely on this shower of piss for good reviews because they seem almost, to a man, to be the biggest nob juice drizzle this side of a 50 guy creampie session.

Also - the BIGGEST handheld fuck up has gone largely unseen and it's Nintendo who brought it to us (weird these Journos didn't catch it or have swept it aside (Ferricide excluded who was the first person to go WTF?!)) - the ONLY thing 3DS has going for it is 3D... and Nintendo have mandated that all 3D games have to be able to work in 2D... effectively meaning that any gameplay elements that rely on the unique selling point of the machine are rendered null and void. I really don't get where N are going with the machine and the policy seems dumb. The fans reaction of perfectly deciding that PSP1 performance level (on the 3DS) is now the upper bar for "games suitable for handhelds" is laughable

Anyways - i'm sure the 3DS will win the gen and i'm sure it will have great games, but the PSP2 has surprised me in that it hasn't been the distinguished mentally-challenged own goal fest i come to link with Sony.

:lol I have a Ntard friend that had a little meltdown over the psp2, the guy was cumming in buckets when the 3ds was announce talking about how innovative nintendo is and how he will finally be able to play the greatest game ever made anywhere he goes! but when the psp2 was shown his first words about it was "I honestly don't see what you guys like about it" he then went on a rant about how portables are suppose to be different innovative experiences and the games are suppose to be simple portable games that you can play for 5 minutes at a times and how having a hand held with perfect control will just lead us to play the same games everywhere :lol

My favorite of his argument was the simple portable games shit, what makes Uncharted for example a non portable game? I can save whenever I want and that for me is what makes a game portable, I can play five minutes of uncharted and then save whenever I want but I can't do that in say FF8 unless I'm close to a save point so for me any game that lets you save at anytime is fit for a hand held.

And the innovation crap is priceless too, sony have released tons of innovative games for all their consoles and the same with the third parties so I don't see how this is going to be any different I mean sony didn't put a rear pad, two cameras a gyroscope and a high quality touch screen in the device for nothing, but hey I guess I forgot that nintendo is the only innovative company in the business(even though there is nothing innovative about the 3ds).
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« Reply #915 on: January 29, 2011, 10:33:48 AM »
tl;dr
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« Reply #916 on: January 29, 2011, 11:05:41 AM »
Seems like I remember someone on GAF saying that Resistance Retribution used the second analog stick so maybe some other games have it built in as well?
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« Reply #917 on: January 29, 2011, 11:13:24 AM »
well, i think i'm taking a break from the internet until this shit storm dies down because - frankly - i'm sick of seeing the bullshit and i'm probably aiding the cause.

here is how i see it as XFE and world famous Sony Hater :

Sony are conducting a PR masterclass and Nintendo fanboys are being ABSOLUTELY schooled. $299 is a LOT OF MONEY for a handheld and that's the price it will be - they are simply letting the other side do all the work. $249 is a lot of money too to be quite frank but Nintendo have played right into Sony's hands as have their fans by raising the "IT WILL BE $$$$$" card. Yes, i know - they'll point to PS3 - however, why are we taking the ONE fuck up as the norm on pricing?! The more time Sony don't announce the price the more Nintendo fans will fill the internet with "$600!!!" or "1 hour Max battery life" - thing is - we already KNOW these two aren't going to be true but in their rampant hatred they are repeating this over and over again. What ARSEHOLES they are all going to look when Sony drop $299... and let's face it ... the first thing they'll say is "... it's still too expensive, i was expecting $249".

The arguments have gone beyond distinguished mentally-challenged - the PSP2 by being *too* powerful is the kiss of doom for portable gaming but , apparently, "gamecube level" is not. PSP2 pushes the budget all the way up to PS3 levels and that's not on! plus people want bite size portable games like Ocarina of time that takes 20 hours to complete rather than the frankly TOO LONG games that the PSP2 will show us ;)

Also - what is the fucking point of being a video games "journalist" if you are just a rabid fanboy?! It happens on all sides but isn't the point to be at least marginally impartial and objective in your appraisal? And some of the shit coming out of these peoples mouths.... fuck me. I'm glad not being a filthy poor means i don't have to rely on this shower of piss for good reviews because they seem almost, to a man, to be the biggest nob juice drizzle this side of a 50 guy creampie session.

Also - the BIGGEST handheld fuck up has gone largely unseen and it's Nintendo who brought it to us (weird these Journos didn't catch it or have swept it aside (Ferricide excluded who was the first person to go WTF?!)) - the ONLY thing 3DS has going for it is 3D... and Nintendo have mandated that all 3D games have to be able to work in 2D... effectively meaning that any gameplay elements that rely on the unique selling point of the machine are rendered null and void. I really don't get where N are going with the machine and the policy seems dumb. The fans reaction of perfectly deciding that PSP1 performance level (on the 3DS) is now the upper bar for "games suitable for handhelds" is laughable

Anyways - i'm sure the 3DS will win the gen and i'm sure it will have great games, but the PSP2 has surprised me in that it hasn't been the distinguished mentally-challenged own goal fest i come to link with Sony.

U mad?  You're basing assumptions on what you think the price will be.  What the fanboys drivel isn't going to effect pr efforts either way.
3ds has an almost identical grab bag of gimmicks as the psp2 (camera games, tilt and gyro controls, touch screen), so i don't see how you can say it only has 3d going for it!   I guess you can diddle your psp2's backside but who cares.

Now I'm not going to hide my bias, so I'll refrain from arguing the "quality" of the device.  Yet there is the very real question if the philosophy behind this thing is overkill and whether that will harm its software acquisitions in the future.  The message still seems to be "console games in your hand".  Instead of analyzing the decline of the psp and what factors brought it there, it looks like they stubbornly choose to perceive all their problems as a lack of a second analog and NOT ENOUGH POWAH.  The ios market and the list of DS million sellers have made it pretty damn clear what portable gamers want, and why the psp wasn't going to be successful in the long term.  A robust well emphasized psp2 download store could change my perception of them though.
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« Reply #918 on: January 29, 2011, 11:38:48 AM »
I agree about the Suite being the most important aspect.  I think Nintendo could really fall flat on their face if they don't get serious about their estore.

Whether a psp sequel could have been successful is a good question.  I'm thinking they probably could have got away with simply an overclocked psp, general consumers don't care that much about high fidelity.  Touch screen of course and all those other fun gimmicks like gyros. Moneyhat Call of Duty exclusively with full multiplayer modes in America, Monster Hunter in Japan, uhhhh some Soccer game in Europe Idunno. 

Hey they are kinda doing all that :o
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« Reply #919 on: January 29, 2011, 11:44:17 AM »
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was the psp not a long term success though? certain in Japan it was and whilst software sales mainly died (MH apart) the Hardware sales were good. We're talking a first cut Sony handheld here going up against Nintendo in the handheld space and were the only competitor to actually gain any traction in the space.

It was successful in japan in yes.  But failing to sustain the brand globally makes me think of how turbographx16 was "successful", or how the saturn was "successful".   Probably outsold them combined though. Still the pitiful software sales make me wary of claiming it gained any traction.  Iphone is the first serious competitor in this space because it reduced games to their bare cheap accessible essentials.
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« Reply #920 on: January 29, 2011, 11:46:32 AM »
PS Suite is gonna be huge when it gets going, probably the most important factor of Sony's strategy and it's getting overlooked. Enabling it on all android devices is just a flawless victory - all this talk on gaf about how Sony will compete with smartphones, and instead they just jump in bed with the biggest platform, totally outdid Nintendo with that one.

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« Reply #921 on: January 29, 2011, 11:49:49 AM »
Well...uh... what are the total software sales compared to nes huuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhh?
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« Reply #922 on: January 29, 2011, 11:54:56 AM »
Piracy is a scapegoat and doesn't effect the bottom line as much as EA/Activision/Ubisoft/etc. want you to believe.  Its just as easy to pirate on the Nintendo platforms.
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« Reply #923 on: January 29, 2011, 11:56:24 AM »
Seems like I remember someone on GAF saying that Resistance Retribution used the second analog stick so maybe some other games have it built in as well?

Resistance was a special case.  If I remember right, it was kind of a flagship product for playing via remote play or some shit like that.  To the point that there was content you could only access if you had a PS3 to connect it to.

However, I would not at all be surprised if developers had been leaving little hooks in as soon as Sony gave the go ahead that PSP2 would have two sticks and BC.

Resistance was certainly a "special" case.  Let me break it down:

what you needed:
-A Playstation 3 (w/controller, etc.)
-A copy of Resistance 2
-A PSP
-A copy of Resistance Retribution

Now, play Resistance 2 and Retribution at the same time.  Connect PSP to PS3 via USB.  Now leave it plugged in, pick up the dual analog controller, and sit within the usb length and play off of a 4.3 inch screen; it doesn't even send the video to your PS3 or anything.  Unfortunately the game is designed with the lock-on system in mind, and on top of that, the analog controls feel like PS1-era Medal of Honor stiff controls without the assists that make analog controls tolerable today.

How did anyone at Sony think "yes, this is a good idea.  people want this."?

I may be reading into it a bit much, but that Monster Hunter video seemed like the camera had one speed.  My guess is that they just mapped the d-pad to the second stick and it could be a feature of the BC.  Something like how Remotejoy handles it.

And yes, the 3DS will have similar games AND Pokemon / Mario etc but -won't- have the top end console equivalent games which seems to be being lauded as a -good- thing for Nintendo by their fans and it's that argument i simply don't get. Hell, they are probably even right and i'm being a grumpy old fuck but it's just amazing to hear - Sony were screwed with the PSP2 either way it seems. Make it less powerful and focus on handheld style games = no point , Nintendo will eat you - Give it more power and open up the system for a wider range of games = I don't want console style games on a handheld.  :-\

$299 - it's happening - fish are hooked in right nao. !>< :>------------=========@===

just pointing out that the 'no console games' thing is just vapid nthing hypocrisy.  3DS is going in the direction of more console games too.  I don't think anyone gushing over RE Revelations is bemoaning the fact that there is a real Resident Evil on the handheld.  Or all the console ports or whatever else.  And I don't think anyone could actually give you a definition of what a 'console game' is without stepping on their own face.

Personally I think what makes great handheld games are console games with much quicker pacing.  That's what always sold me since the gameboy.  It's why games like MGS Portable Ops and Zelda Spirit Tracks were such failures for me.

and according to gaf's logic, every nintendo portable before the DS was pointless  ???
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« Reply #924 on: January 29, 2011, 12:09:12 PM »
This ninthing values Mercenaries over Revelations! 

edit:  I'm no good at fighty time!
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« Reply #925 on: January 29, 2011, 12:19:17 PM »
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« Reply #926 on: January 29, 2011, 12:20:41 PM »
This thing completely killed UMD once and for all. Now I have no problem buying PSP games off PSN since they'll play on this. I won't spend money on a UMD game at all.
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« Reply #927 on: January 29, 2011, 12:57:06 PM »
yup. you can see the big geometry/texture differences in the lost planet 2 footage.
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« Reply #928 on: January 29, 2011, 12:59:40 PM »
pokemon is more "long" and tedious than any console game this gen

same with monster hunter
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« Reply #929 on: January 29, 2011, 01:05:02 PM »
is that david schwimmer

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« Reply #930 on: January 29, 2011, 01:05:09 PM »
well, i think i'm taking a break from the internet until this shit storm dies down because - frankly - i'm sick of seeing the bullshit and i'm probably aiding the cause.

here is how i see it as XFE and world famous Sony Hater :

Sony are conducting a PR masterclass and Nintendo fanboys are being ABSOLUTELY schooled. $299 is a LOT OF MONEY for a handheld and that's the price it will be - they are simply letting the other side do all the work. $249 is a lot of money too to be quite frank but Nintendo have played right into Sony's hands as have their fans by raising the "IT WILL BE $$$$$" card. Yes, i know - they'll point to PS3 - however, why are we taking the ONE fuck up as the norm on pricing?! The more time Sony don't announce the price the more Nintendo fans will fill the internet with "$600!!!" or "1 hour Max battery life" - thing is - we already KNOW these two aren't going to be true but in their rampant hatred they are repeating this over and over again. What ARSEHOLES they are all going to look when Sony drop $299... and let's face it ... the first thing they'll say is "... it's still too expensive, i was expecting $249".

The arguments have gone beyond distinguished mentally-challenged - the PSP2 by being *too* powerful is the kiss of doom for portable gaming but , apparently, "gamecube level" is not. PSP2 pushes the budget all the way up to PS3 levels and that's not on! plus people want bite size portable games like Ocarina of time that takes 20 hours to complete rather than the frankly TOO LONG games that the PSP2 will show us ;)

Also - what is the fucking point of being a video games "journalist" if you are just a rabid fanboy?! It happens on all sides but isn't the point to be at least marginally impartial and objective in your appraisal? And some of the shit coming out of these peoples mouths.... fuck me. I'm glad not being a filthy poor means i don't have to rely on this shower of piss for good reviews because they seem almost, to a man, to be the biggest nob juice drizzle this side of a 50 guy creampie session.

Also - the BIGGEST handheld fuck up has gone largely unseen and it's Nintendo who brought it to us (weird these Journos didn't catch it or have swept it aside (Ferricide excluded who was the first person to go WTF?!)) - the ONLY thing 3DS has going for it is 3D... and Nintendo have mandated that all 3D games have to be able to work in 2D... effectively meaning that any gameplay elements that rely on the unique selling point of the machine are rendered null and void. I really don't get where N are going with the machine and the policy seems dumb. The fans reaction of perfectly deciding that PSP1 performance level (on the 3DS) is now the upper bar for "games suitable for handhelds" is laughable

Anyways - i'm sure the 3DS will win the gen and i'm sure it will have great games, but the PSP2 has surprised me in that it hasn't been the distinguished mentally-challenged own goal fest i come to link with Sony.

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« Reply #931 on: January 29, 2011, 01:10:42 PM »
When will this thing be in my hands?!
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« Reply #932 on: January 29, 2011, 01:11:50 PM »
start E3 or whenever they next show it off like this (skip to 3:45)
#t=3m42s
[youtube=560,345]IFt_g2kMDYg[/youtube]

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« Reply #933 on: January 29, 2011, 01:18:59 PM »
The question here is,will Sony fulfill its promises,one year is a long time...
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« Reply #934 on: January 29, 2011, 01:32:40 PM »
pokemon is more "long" and tedious than any console game this gen

same with monster hunter

Pokemon's main activities are bite sized and it utilizes a save anywhere feature.  Monster Hunter's local multi is a huge draw for the series in japan, as I understand do not have widespread adoption of online gaming.
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« Reply #935 on: January 29, 2011, 01:33:35 PM »
with freeze/pause states, any point the "bubububuconsole games on handhelds are too long/won't work" argument may have had in the past is rendered moot, not that it wasn't a complete bullshit argument to begin with. you can just pause that shit whenever you want and bust it out again later.

"i don't want console games!"

"i don't want mini games!"

"i don't want iphone games!"

well, what the fuck do you want, then?

"to be as contrary as my sour soul will allow!"

well, okay, then.
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« Reply #936 on: January 29, 2011, 01:37:38 PM »
I don't mind mini games and iphone-like games personally. 
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« Reply #937 on: January 29, 2011, 01:38:17 PM »
start E3 or whenever they next show it off like this (skip to 3:45)
#t=3m42s
[youtube=560,345]IFt_g2kMDYg[/youtube]


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« Reply #938 on: January 29, 2011, 01:39:10 PM »
i wasn't pointing at you, just the circular logic of the complaint factory in general
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« Reply #939 on: January 29, 2011, 01:45:07 PM »
I don't mind mini games and iphone-like games personally. 

I'm gonna be completely honest and I'll probably be crucified for this, but the kind of games found on iOS, WP7 and Android more closely resemble my idea of what handheld game has been and should always be. Quick, shallow, pick-up-and-play games. As much as I like how advanced portable gaming is getting, the direction its going in isn't for me.

I'll always be of the opinion that console gaming > portable gaming, simply because I enjoy sitting down and soaking in a game in my comfortable house. I don't want a game to try and shoehorn a console experience while I'm on the bus trying to burn time on my way to school.

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« Reply #940 on: January 29, 2011, 01:46:52 PM »
Even that failure known as the PSPGO has the feature so yea.


i wasn't pointing at you, just the circular logic of the complaint factory in general

people always make up stuff to justify their reasons even if that stuff is opposite of what they have said before.


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« Reply #941 on: January 29, 2011, 02:00:28 PM »
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Don't get me wrong, Uncharted looks outstanding, and the PSP2 is obviously throwing the best visuals we've seen on a handheld so far, but this whole "It looks just like PS3!" hyperbole really needs to chill a little.  It looks as close to PS3 as PSP did to PS2.  Amazing, but definitely not the same. 


and this is why Sony's PR this time is perfect. Look at what they did differently - they didn't show too much in the way of long CG bullshit, they had real demos and made sure it was shown on a real life machine to counteract any "lol fake" arguments.

As you say, the machine ISN'T PS3 but everyone believes it is - most markedly the fans of the competitors think that it is and that's why this is so so easy for Sony now.

Also - i don't even think this was the -real- announcement. It sounds like they've got a whole load more stuff to drop and they're keeping it back. This was more of a retort to the 3DS launch to get all up in Nintendo's grill. E3 is probably going to be the "real" reveal. ($299, full line up, ps2 store etc)


What was interesting about the "NGP = near PS3 powah" statements before this?

It wasn't Sony who was publicly shouting it from the rooftops, but everyone else (devs, rumor sources, fanboys, etc). Hell Sony said jack shit about the entire thing.


And according to a game dev he was supposed to show his company's game but Sony didn't bother plus they (supposedly) had a "Sizzle reel" ready and didn't bother showing.

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« Reply #942 on: January 29, 2011, 02:00:45 PM »
with freeze/pause states, any point the "bubububuconsole games on handhelds are too long/won't work" argument may have had in the past is rendered moot, not that it wasn't a complete bullshit argument to begin with. you can just pause that shit whenever you want and bust it out again later.


I'm no a Go owner, so I missed the chance of sampling that feature and totally forgot about it. That was a killer feature, and I'm not gonna rest easy until Sony comes out officially confirming it.

No, no, I'm not gonna take anyone's word for it. I need to see it with my own eyes!
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« Reply #943 on: January 29, 2011, 02:31:16 PM »
How are you so sure of the pricepoint DC?

cuz DC got the scoops  :P

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« Reply #944 on: January 29, 2011, 02:38:28 PM »
I could see some gimped model at $299,maybe even less
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« Reply #945 on: January 29, 2011, 02:44:00 PM »
I can't believe the adherence to shitty "save point system" is still rampant. At least make it like DQIX where the save state gets destroyed after reloading to preserve "balance". No wait, lets not do that and be fucking adults about it and choose if you want to chimp and reload after you die continuously facing a Boss that rapes your little sweaty asshole.

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« Reply #946 on: January 29, 2011, 02:50:41 PM »
Ugh that picture of sprsk makes me want to bash his fucking face in.
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« Reply #947 on: January 29, 2011, 02:54:38 PM »
I could see some gimped model at $299,maybe even less

the more i think about it the more i believe what i mentioned earlier, that a lower-end wifi-only model with no onboard storage and a different (upper-end lcd?) screen will be offered for mainstream affordability, and the one they showed this week is the top-of-the-line rig

and i'm fine with that, oled and 3g are nice but damned if i want to pay $200 extra dollars for them
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« Reply #948 on: January 29, 2011, 03:12:50 PM »
I could see some gimped model at $299,maybe even less

the more i think about it the more i believe what i mentioned earlier, that a lower-end wifi-only model with no onboard storage and a different (upper-end lcd?) screen will be offered for mainstream affordability, and the one they showed this week is the top-of-the-line rig

and i'm fine with that, oled and 3g are nice but damned if i want to pay $200 extra dollars for them

i don't think they will fuck with the screen.

onboard storage is 50/50

3g is fair game though.

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« Reply #949 on: January 29, 2011, 03:34:59 PM »
Yeah, the OLED screen is definitely going to be boarding every SKU.

My predictions:

Lower end model: No 3G, no storage stick - 8 GB stick, no pouch and no headphones (like the PSP Core Pack). Priced between $249 and $299.

Premium model: 3G, 16GB - 32GB storage stick, pouch, headphones and a rubber perfect replica of Krazy Ken's cock if they're feeling generous. Priced between $299 and $349.
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« Reply #950 on: January 29, 2011, 03:48:34 PM »
christ, the butthurtedness from both fan bases is terrible.  both handhelds look fucking awesome.  the real answer is to get both and stfu
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« Reply #951 on: January 29, 2011, 05:40:25 PM »
well, i think i'm taking a break from the internet until this shit storm dies down because - frankly - i'm sick of seeing the bullshit and i'm probably aiding the cause.

here is how i see it as XFE and world famous Sony Hater :

Sony are conducting a PR masterclass and Nintendo fanboys are being ABSOLUTELY schooled. $299 is a LOT OF MONEY for a handheld and that's the price it will be - they are simply letting the other side do all the work. $249 is a lot of money too to be quite frank but Nintendo have played right into Sony's hands as have their fans by raising the "IT WILL BE $$$$$" card. Yes, i know - they'll point to PS3 - however, why are we taking the ONE fuck up as the norm on pricing?! The more time Sony don't announce the price the more Nintendo fans will fill the internet with "$600!!!" or "1 hour Max battery life" - thing is - we already KNOW these two aren't going to be true but in their rampant hatred they are repeating this over and over again. What ARSEHOLES they are all going to look when Sony drop $299... and let's face it ... the first thing they'll say is "... it's still too expensive, i was expecting $249".

The arguments have gone beyond distinguished mentally-challenged - the PSP2 by being *too* powerful is the kiss of doom for portable gaming but , apparently, "gamecube level" is not. PSP2 pushes the budget all the way up to PS3 levels and that's not on! plus people want bite size portable games like Ocarina of time that takes 20 hours to complete rather than the frankly TOO LONG games that the PSP2 will show us ;)

Also - what is the fucking point of being a video games "journalist" if you are just a rabid fanboy?! It happens on all sides but isn't the point to be at least marginally impartial and objective in your appraisal? And some of the shit coming out of these peoples mouths.... fuck me. I'm glad not being a filthy poor means i don't have to rely on this shower of piss for good reviews because they seem almost, to a man, to be the biggest nob juice drizzle this side of a 50 guy creampie session.

Also - the BIGGEST handheld fuck up has gone largely unseen and it's Nintendo who brought it to us (weird these Journos didn't catch it or have swept it aside (Ferricide excluded who was the first person to go WTF?!)) - the ONLY thing 3DS has going for it is 3D... and Nintendo have mandated that all 3D games have to be able to work in 2D... effectively meaning that any gameplay elements that rely on the unique selling point of the machine are rendered null and void. I really don't get where N are going with the machine and the policy seems dumb. The fans reaction of perfectly deciding that PSP1 performance level (on the 3DS) is now the upper bar for "games suitable for handhelds" is laughable

Anyways - i'm sure the 3DS will win the gen and i'm sure it will have great games, but the PSP2 has surprised me in that it hasn't been the distinguished mentally-challenged own goal fest i come to link with Sony.

After thinking about the NGP reveal, I thought it was pretty cute that Nintendo has been so arrogant about the 3DS, "Well, we could have charged $300-400 for the 3DS..."  That plus the underambitious first party software lineup and half assed ports from 13-14 year old games, and compare it to what Sony has planned.

I think Nintards are just pissy because for $50 more, the difference is like night and day.  While Nintards were shooting loads in their tightie whities about MP3 playback, for $50 more, you have Android compatibility, PS2+ performance, 3G, two analog sticks, etc.  Something that would constitute a $100+ different had Nintendo not been a bunch of greedy fucks.  It's just the realization that their handheld is no longer some advanced tech but another DS or Wii: low end hardware with a gimmick to justify an unreasonable price.

Although Sony has yet to reveal the price on the thing, I still stand by that a bare boned unit will come out at $299 and a premium pack for $349.  The downside for the NGP is that its manufacturer is Sony, a company who has fucked up the most in recent times.  As great as the NGP sounds, I remain skeptical overall for that very reason.
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« Reply #952 on: January 29, 2011, 05:47:49 PM »
  As great as the NGP sounds, I remain skeptical overall for that very reason.

Hear, hear.

Sony isn't out of the woods yet, even if they end up announcing a reasonable price, there's still room for a lot of fuck-ups that won't reveal themselves until the system is in your hands. See: Original PSP.
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« Reply #953 on: January 29, 2011, 05:58:07 PM »
christ, the butthurtedness from both fan bases is terrible.  both handhelds look fucking awesome.  the real answer is to get both and stfu

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« Reply #954 on: January 29, 2011, 06:01:36 PM »
listen, i can only afford one handheld which will sit on a shelf unplayed after six months, and i want the one that's gonna look best covered in dust
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« Reply #955 on: January 29, 2011, 06:28:22 PM »
Although Sony has yet to reveal the price on the thing, I still stand by that a bare boned unit will come out at $299 and a premium pack for $349.  The downside for the NGP is that its manufacturer is Sony, a company who has fucked up the most in recent times.  As great as the NGP sounds, I remain skeptical overall for that very reason.

Sort of tough words considering that Sony lead the console space, with a wide margin, for two generations. The PS3 was the fuck up, but it is what it is, and even there, Sony has done a pretty serious turn-around since they got a product out there that could actually be sold.

At the right price and with the right attitude towards marketing and the market itself, which Sony has obviously been plenty capable of pulling off, there is no real reason to predict doom and gloom. Hell, look at Nintendo itself, a company that went from the Lulcube to absolute dominance.

Anyway, I'm not big on handhelds, but between the two, this thing sure as hell hits closer to home. Dual sticks. :rock

Oh yeah, and a friend just told me that the new PSP is just like a PS3. Win.

edit: I thought it was a joke, but I should have known better. Some dudes are actually "concerned" that the power will be limiting.
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« Reply #956 on: January 29, 2011, 06:36:18 PM »
I don't think they will change the screen either, but I believe that is one of the reasons the ipod touch is cheap, compared to the iphone, is because it doesn't use an ips screen.

and yeah, it's hard to believe some of the criticism is serious.  People be defending resistive touch screens  >:(
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« Reply #957 on: January 29, 2011, 06:38:44 PM »
But on the other hand high and low end SKUs of iPhones, iPod touches, and iPads use the same screen.
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« Reply #958 on: January 29, 2011, 06:40:25 PM »
So is it possible to view 3D media on this thing with glasses?
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« Reply #959 on: January 29, 2011, 06:41:09 PM »
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