PS VITA thread(embargo over,previews overload)

[TripleA]

That wasn't it.

software. games

That's it.

[TripleA]

(Image removed from quote.)

You know I'm correct.

[TripleA]

TripleA is off his game if he's fishing for PSP/PSP2 hatred on the 'bore.

The word for the above comment is "delusional".

[Damian79]

BS, it was the price of the psp that put off people after it sold to the Sony faithfuls.  The only difference is that Nintnedo has less faithfuls.

I disagree with that.  Nintendo's faithfuls are big enough in number and dedicated enough that they've been able to weather any storm... Sony on the other hand takes an awful pounding when they don't attract people outside their usual.  I want to accent my point with an appropriate emoticon but I can't find one so

 :himu

There are much less nintendo faithfuls than in the past.  Whereas there are so many Sony faithfuls.  So i guess we have to agree to disagree.

[naff]

TripleA is off his game if he's fishing for PSP/PSP2 hatred on the 'bore.

The word for the above comment is "delusional".

So because someone thinks the PSP and Playstation has a bad name and it's a good idea to differentiate their latest handheld from it's formers namesake, it means they don't like the PSP themselves? This is the sort of illogical fanboy trash which leads to no-one respecting you TripleA.

[maxy]

http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2011/sony-ngp-en.shtml

[TripleA]

That's it.

Okay, now connect that to your point.

The question was:

What was the biggest criticism that faced the PSP

The correct answer was:

software, games

I will happily connect the point for you.

Since the biggest criticism with the PSP was the lack of original and compelling software, Sony would be wise to avoid naming the next handheld PlayStation "PSP2". Because as soon as you see "PSP2" on the next handheld PlayStation that looks very similar to the first handheld PlayStation, you have a big problem. The consumers will react by thinking "Sony are making another portable PlayStation that looks a lot like the first portable PlayStation. Since the first portable PlayStation did not have great original software, this too will probably not have great original software since it is just another portable PlayStation".

By naming the next handheld PlayStation something other than PSP2, Sony successfully sidesteps the above problem. The cruel reality (and this is something that people with brains have figured out) is the NGP cannot succeed if it is directly affiliated with the main PlayStation brand. Sony are showing some signs of understanding this, in fact, I mentioned this very same thing about 8 months ago: http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=35342.msg1213700#msg1213700

If Sony have learned, then don't even expect the PSP2 to be called PSP2. Don't expect it to be directly affiliated with the PlayStation brand.

So in conclusion: PSV > PSP. Now, since I have some more free time, I will also happily tuck you in if you need me to.

[TripleA]

TripleA is off his game if he's fishing for PSP/PSP2 hatred on the 'bore.

The word for the above comment is "delusional".

So because someone thinks the PSP and Playstation has a bad name and it's a good idea to differentiate their latest handheld from it's formers namesake, it means they don't like the PSP themselves? This is the sort of illogical fanboy trash which leads to no-one respecting you TripleA.

The individual is delusional because he completely misinterpreted my point.

Just like you just did.

[TripleA]

hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngh wipeout 

edit: so your point then, is something apparent to everyone.  thanks for the research captain fucktard.

eh sorry that was harsh.  you're at least a brigadier-general fucktard.

Don't be mad.

[TripleA]

So because someone thinks the PSP and Playstation has a bad name and it's a good idea to differentiate their latest handheld from it's formers namesake, it means they don't like the PSP themselves? This is the sort of illogical fanboy trash which leads to no-one respecting you TripleA

yup, i'm pretty sure my love for the PSP is well documented.

software. games

That's it.

i doubt that was the reason though - also, what is it at now? 50m units world wide? It's a very weird brand of "failure". Anyone who can look at the PSP library and go "no games" probably can only do so because some other hater is ringing a bell behind the stack of quality titles so their Stevie Wondered asses can pretend they just don't see it.

"Very super suspicious... looks like epic troll"
 

The PSP is a success in one region, no doubt about it.

But since the PSP is a product that was released in multiple territories, you must take into account the performance of the product in those other territories. Here's an image that symbolizes the PSP in those other territories:

[TripleA]

Since the biggest criticism with the PSP was the lack of original and compelling software, Sony would be wise to avoid naming the next handheld PlayStation "PSP2". Because as soon as you see "PSP2" on the next handheld PlayStation that looks very similar to the first handheld PlayStation, you have a big problem

i confused... who DIDN'T think this in this thread?!?

http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=35492.msg1321945#msg1321945

Is there anything else you need my love

[TripleA]

Don't be mad.

Ehn, I'm not any more mad than usual.  Less so, actually, since I just saw gorgeous Wipeout screens.

I look forward to your stunning observations in the future, hope you stick around this time.

Don't you worry, it's summertime so there's a lot of free time.

[TripleA]

all i see is someone congratulating Sony for naming their machine after Dutch soccer power house (maybe not so much without Guss H at the helm) PSV ...  ?!?

We call that a whiffer.

[TripleA]

I'll be back around Konami time.

[Herr Mafflard]

Since the biggest criticism with the PSP was the lack of original and compelling software, Sony would be wise to avoid naming the next handheld PlayStation "PSP2". Because as soon as you see "PSP2" on the next handheld PlayStation that looks very similar to the first handheld PlayStation, you have a big problem

i confused... who DIDN'T think this in this thread?!?

http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=35492.msg1321945#msg1321945

Is there anything else you need my love

all i see is someone congratulating Sony for naming their machine after Dutch soccer power house (maybe not so much without Guss H at the helm) PSV ...  ?!?

Again, no one here hates the PSP TripleA, you delusional muppet

[maxy]

^^
he will be back around Konami time

[MCD]

I hate PSP so much I bought a PSPGO.

[naff]

I hate myself so much I bought a PSPGO.

same here, bro... same here....

Me three



FFFfffffuuuuuck NGP is going to

[Eel O'Brian]

I don't care what anyone says, I think this looks pretty funny:





as long as it isn't a full-priced game

[maxy]

Give them some time,they will sing the same tune again.

"Uncharted NGP next,please"

[The Sceneman]

funny thing is, I had the idea of a Wipeout 'prequel' when I was 12. Glad to see my prophecy has been fufilled.

[naff]

I guess the whole prequel thing means a return to pit lanes 

[maxy]

http://kotaku.com/5805966/



Uncharted:Golden Abyss
 

hype hype hype

[Purple Filth]

Stolen from GAF

A general preview that briefly touches on multiple games. I guess individual games should start to get their own threads with meatier previews.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...n-back-in-game

By far the most exciting was Uncharted: Golden Abyss, a new episode in the Uncharted franchise, which takes place chronologically before Drake's Fortune (although Sony emphasised it isn't a prequel). Graphically, it lost little in comparison with the familiar PS3 Uncharted games, employing the same third-person viewpoint and richly detailed environments, as well as some great lighting effects.

WipEout 2048 looked similarly impressive: the huge screen's sheer number of pixels and sharp contrasts create the illusion of greater crispness than you would get from a TV. WipEout 2048 felt a bit more forgiving than its famously tough predecessors, and let you choose between three control systems, one of which used the tilt sensor for turning (the sensitivity of which was spot-on) and the rear touch pad to accelerate.

Little Deviants is a collection of 30-plus mini-games clearly designed to give each one of the NGP's features a thorough work-out. It included a variation on Whack-A-Mole in which you had to touch the front or back of the unit according to which direction Deviants revealed behind doors were facing, and a robot-shooting game which used the gyro-sensor for aiming, much like the 3DS's Face Raiders.

Sound Shapes is an intriguing 2D platformer which has music built into its gameplay: as you traverse levels, you collect objects that build up a soundtrack with, for example, pulsing lasers providing the beat. It also incorporates a LittleBigPlanet-style level editor which should prove popular. Reality Fighters, meanwhile, is an augmented reality beat-'em-up game, which lets you scan your face onto a fighter, then use your surroundings as a fight arena. Sony's in-house launch lineup is completed by a clutch of games familiar from the PlayStation Network, including Super Stardust Delta, Everybody's Golf and Hustle Kings.

We approached the NGP with scepticism – the once-exciting PSP seemed to become increasingly irrelevant with each iteration, culminating in the unmitigated disaster that was the PSPgo. But this new model restored our faith in Sony's ability to make handheld consoles.

It is sensibly designed – Yoshida admitted that with the PSPgo: "We made it our highest priority to make the unit small and portable, but that wasn't what people really wanted." And its peripheral bells and whistles – the cameras, motion sensors and touch-sensitive screen and rear pad – give developers just the ammunition they crave in their collective quest to unearth new forms of gaming.

 Q

Yoshida admitted that the PSP suffered when Sony launched the PS3, claiming most of its development resources, but was adamant that: "Going forward, we do not want to make the same mistake".
 

[maxy]

Ok,thread title changed...VITA is 100% sure anyway

Tons of previews everywhere

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-06-02-ngp-hands-on-preview

Sony thrash talking again

"There's no one clear competitor in terms of what NGP offers," Shuhei Yoshida, president of Sony Computer Entertainment worldwide studios, told Eurogamer in an interview.

"NGP's going to establish itself as the unique thing that people want to have. NGP cannot be placed against smartphones. You can't make phone calls on it and it's too big to fit into your pocket."

NGP, rumoured to be officially called the PS Vita, features dual analog sticks and a five inch OLED touchscreen.

Some commentators have suggested it's set to go head-to-head with Nintendo's 3DS when it launches later this year, but Sony doesn't see it that way.

"Compared to 3DS, it was very interesting – when we were designing the NGP we had no idea what Nintendo was going to do," Yoshida revealed.

"Aside from the 3D stereoscopic display, they seem to be keeping the same theme that they had with the DS – it feels like an update of the DS to me.

[naff]

Uncharted:Golden Abyss
 

W T F

[Purple Filth]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-06-02-ngps-backwards-compatibility-unveiled

Sony's NGP will offer full backwards compatibility with the PlayStation Network's library of PSP games, and will offer an optimized experience for each one.

PSP games played with the NGP will be smoothed and upscaled, and the NGP's dual analogue sticks will also be supported.
Sony Bend's Resistance Retribution has been demonstrated working on the NGP, with the second analogue stick now being used to move the character's view in the third person shooter.

PSP games are run via a software emulator within the NGP, and the upscaling can be toggled on and off by the player.

The PSP backwards compatibility seems to mirror the efforts of the PSP Remaster Series, which allow optimized versions of PSP games to run on the PS3.

Finally confirmed 

Funny how all this info is going out before E3, now i'm really curious to see what they will have for the event.

[maxy]

Upscaling means that games run at PSP native res,no resolution boost.

[Trent Dole]

I'm actually interested in this thing, crazy.

[Shaka Khan]

PSP games played with the NGP will be smoothed and upscaled, and the NGP's dual analogue sticks will also be supported.

[Eel O'Brian]

with the second analogue stick now being used to move the character's view 

fuck yeah, now some first-person games will actually be playable

[Diunx]

HOLY FUCK!!!!!!

[Howard Alan Treesong]

I am surprisingly more sold than anticipated

[Bebpo]

Uncharted & Wipeout at launch means it's already better than the first 6 months of 3DS software support.

[Himu]

unlike others, my love for wipeout seemed to vanish on the psx. I mean, I like wipeout, but I prefer games like Ridge Racer. I really hope Namco put out a new Ridge Racer for Vita at launch.

[Diunx]

Uncharted & Wipeout at launch means it's already better than the first year of 3DS software support.

Fixed.

[Himu]

Now that psn store is back up I guess I can start buying my psp games off of psn for vita bc.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

uhhh wipeout is 30 fps

what the fuck

what the fucking fuck

S NY

[Purple Filth]

uhhh wipeout is 30 fps

what the fuck

what the fucking fuck

Like the PSP versions?

[Purple Filth]

Like the PSP versions?

oh sorry i thought this was a next-generation portable

you should know better than that oscar. 

[Bebpo]

I'll still buy it, but it's kind of disappointing.  Kind of was getting used to 60 fps Wipeout thanks to the PSP running at 333 and the HD version.

Maybe there will be a 777mhz hack for Vita that will give you the same thing.

I dunno, considering that every freaking racing game this gen has been downgraded to 30fps and I'm still having fun with them, the anger is almost non-existent at this point. 

[cool breeze]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-06-02-ngps-backwards-compatibility-unveiled

Sony's NGP will offer full backwards compatibility with the PlayStation Network's library of PSP games, and will offer an optimized experience for each one.

PSP games played with the NGP will be smoothed and upscaled, and the NGP's dual analogue sticks will also be supported.
Sony Bend's Resistance Retribution has been demonstrated working on the NGP, with the second analogue stick now being used to move the character's view in the third person shooter.

PSP games are run via a software emulator within the NGP, and the upscaling can be toggled on and off by the player.

The PSP backwards compatibility seems to mirror the efforts of the PSP Remaster Series, which allow optimized versions of PSP games to run on the PS3.

Finally confirmed 

Funny how all this info is going out before E3, now i'm really curious to see what they will have for the event.

I have a boner

[huckleberry]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-06-02-ngps-backwards-compatibility-unveiled

Sony's NGP will offer full backwards compatibility with the PlayStation Network's library of PSP games, and will offer an optimized experience for each one.

PSP games played with the NGP will be smoothed and upscaled, and the NGP's dual analogue sticks will also be supported.
Sony Bend's Resistance Retribution has been demonstrated working on the NGP, with the second analogue stick now being used to move the character's view in the third person shooter.

PSP games are run via a software emulator within the NGP, and the upscaling can be toggled on and off by the player.

The PSP backwards compatibility seems to mirror the efforts of the PSP Remaster Series, which allow optimized versions of PSP games to run on the PS3.

Finally confirmed 

Funny how all this info is going out before E3, now i'm really curious to see what they will have for the event.

I have a boner

sounds awesome

spoiler (click to show/hide)

the upscaling, not your boner

[close]

[cool breeze]

can it be both?

and videos on the playstation blog:

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/06/02/ngp-introducing-sound-shapes/   (game from the Everyday Shooter guy)
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/06/02/wipeout-your-ps3-opponents-on-ngp/
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/06/02/ngp-previews-let%E2%80%99s-talk-games-starting-with-uncharted/

[Purple Filth]

I'll still buy it, but it's kind of disappointing.  Kind of was getting used to 60 fps Wipeout thanks to the PSP running at 333 and the HD version.

well this site claims they were told that it could improve.

http://www.nowgamer.com/features/1371/ngp-hands-on-hardware-analysis?o=1#listing

There is hope 

[cool breeze]

That said, it’s also a good illustration of one of the PSP’s problems and what could be a potential issue for NGP: Why would I rather play this game on a handheld than at home on my nice HDTV? In fact, given the inclusion of an HDMI output on the new device, it’s entirely likely that I will play it on my TV. That’s certainly not a condemnation of the NGP, but hopefully Sony can continue to deliver games that are custom-built to be consumed on the go in addition to smaller versions of their console hits.

unless this guy is completely wrong, tv-out via hdmi would be great.

[naff]

Yeah, I thought they said they weren't going to do this a while ago. Anyway, would be so hot, especially with a wireless hdmi dongle

[Shaka Khan]

They just confirmed it was only available in the debug units they were using

[pilonv1]

So how does backwards compatibility work? What do I do with my stack of UMDs?

[huckleberry]

So how does backwards compatibility work? What do I do with my stack of UMDs?

SOL



  PSP digital downloads

[Damian79]

That said, it’s also a good illustration of one of the PSP’s problems and what could be a potential issue for NGP: Why would I rather play this game on a handheld than at home on my nice HDTV? In fact, given the inclusion of an HDMI output on the new device, it’s entirely likely that I will play it on my TV. That’s certainly not a condemnation of the NGP, but hopefully Sony can continue to deliver games that are custom-built to be consumed on the go in addition to smaller versions of their console hits.

unless this guy is completely wrong, tv-out via hdmi would be great.

So you are excited about the fact that you could play you ngp games on an hdtv... why?  Why not just get a normal console?

[pilonv1]

So how does backwards compatibility work? What do I do with my stack of UMDs?

SOL



  PSP digital downloads

[naff]

So how does backwards compatibility work? What do I do with my stack of UMDs?

trash/bin

assume the position for a DD future

So you are excited about the fact that you could play you ngp games on an hdtv... why?  Why not just get a normal console?

This is a fair stance to take. My answer is simply that it's nice to have options. There's probably goin to be some sweet cash money made with PS3/VITA game crossovers, a good reason to not include hdmi out in the final product.

[cool breeze]

That said, it’s also a good illustration of one of the PSP’s problems and what could be a potential issue for NGP: Why would I rather play this game on a handheld than at home on my nice HDTV? In fact, given the inclusion of an HDMI output on the new device, it’s entirely likely that I will play it on my TV. That’s certainly not a condemnation of the NGP, but hopefully Sony can continue to deliver games that are custom-built to be consumed on the go in addition to smaller versions of their console hits.

unless this guy is completely wrong, tv-out via hdmi would be great.

So you are excited about the fact that you could play you ngp games on an hdtv... why?  Why not just get a normal console?

because options are nice 

no offense, but that was a stupid dumb question. 

[TripleA]

*Looks at announcements and new information*

So far, so bad. It will be interesting to see whether or not Sony can announce something big for the Vita that doesn't have console roots.

[TripleA]

That said, it’s also a good illustration of one of the PSP’s problems and what could be a potential issue for NGP: Why would I rather play this game on a handheld than at home on my nice HDTV? In fact, given the inclusion of an HDMI output on the new device, it’s entirely likely that I will play it on my TV. That’s certainly not a condemnation of the NGP, but hopefully Sony can continue to deliver games that are custom-built to be consumed on the go in addition to smaller versions of their console hits.

unless this guy is completely wrong, tv-out via hdmi would be great.

Not great for their home console business.

[TripleA]

What do I do with my stack of UMDs?

You put them into the device that plays UMDs.

[pilonv1]

Sony should provide an official ripping tool for UMDs

...

[Damian79]

because options are nice 

no offense, but that was a stupid dumb question. 

It seems kinda dumb, why not play a console game instead of a handheld game that is upscaled on your HDTV?

[MCD]

Because he can do whatever the fuck he wants.