The Walking Dead

[brawndolicious]

Wow what a great show, knew nothing about it going into the pilot other than that a bunch of people pirated it a week ago.  I guessed that it was going to be a drama since it's on AMC but it really seems to be a good show for everybody.  Nice mix of action throughout the pilot.

anyways, i really liked it.  i have the novels but never got around to reading them.  but i don't get how shane is a douche in the show.  he seemed okay to me.  not really good or bad.  *shrug*

He said a few colorful jokes that weren't that bad but maybe it's because he is having an affair with his partner's wife within what seems like a few weeks of the outbreak.  No doubt his own wife/girlfriend that he was bitching about became a zombie though.

[Raban]

smh

[chronovore]

my wife doesn't like zombie movies but she liked the pilot.  a zombie show has way more potential than a zombie movie because it gives more of a chance of attachment as opposed to movies where it's hard to see past the horror factor.

anyways, i really liked it.  i have the novels but never got around to reading them.  but i don't get how shane is a douche in the show.  he seemed okay to me.  not really good or bad.  *shrug*

Shane's basically being a manly-man in the car conversation with Rick, clearly trying to expose some feelings in an effort to get Rick to open up. Not because he's planning on putting a move on Lori at that point, but because he's Rick's best friend, Rick seems to have it together better than he does. Shane feels a little inferior because Rick is married and has a kid, so maybe he also wants to hear that not everything is perfect. Or maybe he's just voicing concern.

In the pilot and in the comic, Shane and Lori both in this weird spot where the affair occurred when they were sure Rick was alive but being cared for. But in the comic, it was a one-time thing, and Lori tells Shane it was a mistake and won't ever happen again; but IIRC that's after Rick shows up at camp. The timeline's different here, because we see Shane and Lori before they see Rick alive and healthy again.

In either case, Shane has still put the moves on his best friend's wife while he's looking after her because that friend is ill. That's dickish.

[Mupepe]

ah shit.  my bad.  i had a brainfart and got rick confused with shane.  I was wondering why you guys were talking shit about him. 

[bud]

i dig the zombipacolypse subject and the production vales are terrific; all in all, it was a good pilot. but i'm getting a ''been there, done that vibe'' from it. hopefully, that'll change in the following episodes. doubt it, though.

methodis, i read your spoiler. fml. does that happen fairly soon? hope it happens in this season.

[Disposable White Guy]

Re-watched it this morning, and I still dig this show a lot already.  The shot outside of the hospital after Rick wakes up was fucking great, and so was the scene where

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Morgan goes to the bedroom window and tries to kill his wife.

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Frank Darabont

AMC

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I hoped that by now, the zombie craze would be dead and buried but I guess we'll have to suffer for a little longer yet...

[Raban]

I hoped that by now, the zombie craze would be dead and buried but I guess we'll have to suffer for a little longer yet...

[GilloD]

Pilot was awesome. Sorry it wasn't for comic nerds. BU BU BU ON PAGE 17 RICKS SHIRT IS CLEARLY TORN ON THE LEFT IN TEH PILOT ITS TORN ON THE RIGHT IS NITHING SACRED

[Diunx]

The biggest difference between the pilot and the first issue of the comic is that the comic wasn't fucking boring.

[Raban]

The biggest difference between the pilot and the first issue of the comic is that the comic wasn't fucking boring.

:daps

My man

[Great Rumbler]

The biggest difference between the pilot and the first issue of the comic is that the comic wasn't fucking boring.

:daps

My man

You know you're in trouble when your main supporter is Diunx.

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Hey, Diunx!

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[Raban]

I didn't need support, but since dissenting opinions usually get gang banged on this forum GAF style I'll take all the support I can get

[Diunx]

Don't mind GR he is a Tron fan.

[Dickie Dee]

The premiere TRIPLED Mad Men's, Breaking Bad's, and Dexter's highest ever ratings

[Raban]

I like Tron too

[Great Rumbler]

I like Tron too

And thus does the startselect/Diunx partnership crumble to ruin.

[Diunx]

The CW is already working on Zombie Blógs.

[Raban]

I like Tron too

And thus does the startselect/Diunx partnership crumble to ruin.

I have no friends!

[tehjaybo]

I've started reading the graphic novel again, looks like I was further in than I though.  Still, it's pretty friggin awesome.  So far I'm to the part where

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they're getting kicked out of the prison.

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Can't wait to see what happens.

[chronovore]

I've started reading the graphic novel again, looks like I was further in than I though.  Still, it's pretty friggin awesome.  So far I'm to the part where

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they're getting kicked out of the prison.

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Can't wait to see what happens.

It's pretty harsh. I nearly stopped reading there. Curiosity dragged me back with a fierceness once the next trade paperback came out.

There's some good (but shocking) stuff after that as well.

[GilloD]

Everything after the jail is kind of goofy. It was very OHMYGOD CAN YOU BELIEVE I JUUST WROTE THAT I AM A SHOCKING WRITER.

[Saint Cornelius]

It was a cool show.

But you all should watch TERRIERS tonight on FX. 10PM.  please!!

[chronovore]

I think he's going after shock, but only insofar as to show how messed up everyone becomes in this situation. Maggie's decision, the direction the twin boys go, and how hardened Carl is becoming, it's all down to "yeah, if the world ends, it's going to be hard to keep it together."

I keep going back to McCarthy's The Road as a parallel to this story. They're both father/son stories about how far we'll go to protect our offspring, convinced that the world is horrible, even as they grow up knowing no other world. However, I wouldn't put it past Kirkland to take that away in the end, though I believe if Carl dies, it would be the end of Rick.

[bud]

methodis, i read your spoiler. fml. does that happen fairly soon? hope it happens in this season.

can someone answer this one?

it's about

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shane's death

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, assuming methodis wasn't lying.

[Diunx]

It happens in like issue 5 or 6.

[chronovore]

Yeah, it happens in the first trade paperback collection, so it's an early thing. However, who knows what they'll do in the TV series?

[Eel O'Brian]

it started getting really comic-booky right around the prison issues

samurai/ninja assassin type new character, supervillain "mayor," fallout-style sadistic "raider" group, cannibals, etc

he's since taken a step back from that and gotten better, but he probably ought to wrap it up within a year or so as there is quite a bit of wheel-spinning and he's been leaning heavily on standard cliches for a while

[Dickie Dee]

If they are starting to plan for 5+ seasons I wouldn't be surprised if they most stayed faithful to the comics, but started cutting and pasting some of the storylines around, maybe skipping some arcs entirely.

[chronovore]

it started getting really comic-booky right around the prison issues

samurai/ninja assassin type new character, supervillain "mayor," fallout-style sadistic "raider" group, cannibals, etc

he's since taken a step back from that and gotten better, but he probably ought to wrap it up within a year or so as there is quite a bit of wheel-spinning and he's been leaning heavily on standard cliches for a while

I must admit, while I still think this is the best zombie comic evar, and some of the best zombie fiction I've seen, I'm entirely inclined to agree with you. It's using more comic book tropes than before. But as long as no-one shows up in tights and a cape, I think I'm OK with it. The Woodbury incident was probably my favorite arc to-date.

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The Governor is clearly meant as an example of what Rick could theoretically become if things had gone another way, or where he still might go if he isn't careful. They didn't have to give the Governor a child in his care, they didn't have to remove an arm; those things are there to draw parallels.

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[Cormacaroni]

It's not gonna wrap up in a year - he's got it planned out through #150 at least.

[Great Rumbler]

They used the "N"-word!

[MyNameIsMethodis]

That episode was MUCH beter, i'd say amazing BUT

god damn Angela's casting is fuckign terrible. She's supposed to be a hot, slim, 20 year old, not some 40 year old hag.

[Himu]

short round is the best character

[chronovore]

It's not gonna wrap up in a year - he's got it planned out through #150 at least.

Where'd you see that?

[Himu]

SHORT ROUND

[Great Rumbler]

short round is the best character

"Where's Glenn?"

[BobFromPikeCreek]

Episode 2 was AWESOME.

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Zombie gut rub-downs? Disgusting.

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[BobFromPikeCreek]

My only complaint was the black guy getting the ever-loving shit beat out of him and then only having like a bloody nose. Oh well.

[tehjaybo]

short round is the best character

"Where's Glenn?"

I didn't get that until I just watched it. 

 

[MyNameIsMethodis]

Yes, she is. I hate that bitch.

[Diunx]

Lori is ugly, way too skinny and Andre looks old and ugly, Amy is hot though the show still needs a milf where's Carol?

[TakingBackSunday]

scored a 4.7

[Nintendosbooger]

Second show was good.

At some point, however, they're going to have to introduce a new, more challenging breed of zombies, because these common "walkers" have illustrated to be nothing more than a mere nuisance to any well-prepared individual or group. When those two trekked through the sewers and encountered those nasty rats, my mind began to wander at the possibility of infected non-humans and the challenges they'd pose.

[chronovore]

If you want infected non-humans, watch the Resident Evil movies. There are crows and dobermans and probably zombie plants.

Personally, I hate non-human zombies, because it blows the metaphor apart. Zombies as "the other," as the force which is largely like us but clearly not us, this fails when it's a zombie dog or a zombie chicken trying to peck us to death. Zombies have to retain their anthropic form to provide the specific threat of zombies: unreasoning mindlessness, overwhelming numbers, implacable pace.

[chronovore]

Just finished watching ep. 2. Really enjoyed it overall. Anyone who still thinks it's boring, they should probably check out now.

So far, Lori's actually not seeming as bitchy as she is in the comic. An adulterer, sure, but she's also probably assuming that Rick is dead, and Shane is clearly the de facto leader of the group even if he's not exactly a respected pillar of the little community. It's said that in the face of death, humans get a tremendous sexual drive increase, maybe an evolutionary boost to try and increase the number of births to offset the deaths. Or maybe she's trading sex for safety or placating Shane's temper.

But since Rick is being shown as the "let's do anything to get all of us out of this" leader, and Shane is the "Too bad! They knew the risks! They're as good as GONE!" abandon-your-family guy, I expect the situation on the ground will change quickly once Rick inevitably joins them next episode.

[Himu]

Rick is going to knock the fuck out of both Shane his bimbo wife, take his kid and ride into the sunset. Also, I knew that horse would die early on. I mean, how long can a horse survive without water, especially during a zombie apocalypse? They ate that fucking horse up.

[ManaByte]

[chronovore]

Rick is going to knock the fuck out of both Shane his bimbo wife, take his kid and ride into the sunset. Also, I knew that horse would die early on. I mean, how long can a horse survive without water, especially during a zombie apocalypse? They ate that fucking horse up.

Yeah, I think that is there to show that Rick is a man of good intentions, but those good intentions as a plan won't survive contact with the enemy.

[chronovore]

I'm up to "Life Among Them" in the trade paperbacks now (vol. 12). I am seriously jonesing to get the next bit of story out of the singles, but will wait. "Life Among Them" ends with Rick making, I think, a serious error in judgment (though it is difficult to blame him after Woodbury).

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Douglas, the ex-senator is clearly suffering from a bloated sense of entitlement, and also seem stuck in The Old Ways, wanting to assign people a duty so that each person has their spot. The reality of the new world is a critical need for malleability, adaptability, the willingness to do whatever it takes to survive... not just filling one's role in society.

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Carl is remarkably realistic about the viability of maintaining their good luck; it was nice watching the reality wash over Rick, and his support of his boy as well.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

I need to start reading them again, I stopped at like issue 70 but couldn't find a place online to pirate them, anyone know?

[Diunx]

I need to start reading them again, I stopped at like issue 70 but couldn't find a place online to pirate them, anyone know?

Warez-bb and Myxss.

[Boogie]

Episode 2 was AWESOME.

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Zombie gut rub-downs? Disgusting.

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"one more thing.....he's an organ donor." 

[fistfulofmetal]

surprise surprise. AMC HD's not coming in tonight. sooo no TWD until tomorrow for me

but the bright side is that i just discovered Time Warner added a bunch of new HD channels including BBC America HD and they're playing all 6 episodes of Luther!

[GilloD]

surprise surprise. AMC HD's not coming in tonight. sooo no TWD until tomorrow for me

but the bright side is that i just discovered Time Warner added a bunch of new HD channels including BBC America HD and they're playing all 6 episodes of Luther!

Luther gets so silly by episode 4.

[fistfulofmetal]

i think its mostly due to the fact that its only 6 episodes. there wasnt enough time to build up all the characters so when one of the characters turn it ends up feeling way too abrupt. but i liked where the story went and if there had been more time to build the characters then it wouldnt have been an issue

[MyNameIsMethodis]

I can't tell if this show is any good or not. I've read the comics so it's all kinda "meh" because the little things bug me like andrea, carla's and now Tyraels actor in the next episode it looks like

how are reviewers reviewing it

[Boogie]

how are reviewers reviewing it

why do you care?  Can't you watch it and form an opinion for yourself as to its quality?

[MyNameIsMethodis]

yes, I was just wondering how the public are perceiving it, because I don't want it cancelled.

[Boogie]

yes, I was just wondering how the public are perceiving it, because I don't want it cancelled.

Umm, after episode two, a second season was already greenlit, according to wikipedia.  Research, dude.

I would have thought the whole "OMG, HIGHEST RATINGS EVAR FOR A CABLE DRAMA" might have clued you in after the pilot, tho.

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2010/11/08/amc-resurrects-the-walking-dead-for-a-second-season-639014/20101108amc01/