The Walking Dead

[Great Rumbler]

I just hope that in the future Darabont keeps making his melodramatic oscar baits and leave my comic books alone

Actually, with each passing episode Frank Darabont has taken on a smaller role [first episode: director and writer, second episode: writer, third episode: shared writing with two others, fourth episode: didn't write or direct].

[Diunx]

He is the executive producer and head writer you can't get bigger roles than those.

[Great Rumbler]

He is the executive producer and head writer you can't get bigger roles than those.

Doesn't change that he's taking on a smaller role on each individual episode and that each episode has gotten steadily worse.

The fourth episode was actually written by Robert Kirkman, by the way.

[chronovore]

Here's an idea: WRITE CRAP WHICH MAKES SENSE.

The fourth episode was actually written by Robert Kirkman, by the way.

[Cormacaroni]

Without the melodramatic opening scene seeing that girl get eaten would have been far less awesome.

Well, I get that, hence my comment about not getting attached to all 300 characters. When the manipulation is so obvious and so corny, it doesn't work as intended; in fact, it has the opposite effect.

[Eel O'Brian]

this series is only gonna get worse once they hit the prison, then it's almost all bad dialogue and melodrama

[Diunx]

He is the executive producer and head writer you can't get bigger roles than those.

Doesn't change that he's taking on a smaller role on each individual episode and that each episode has gotten steadily worse.

The fourth episode was actually written by Robert Kirkman, by the way.

Dude he is the show runner, everything needs his approval before being filmed every plot point, every character and every piece of dialog goes trough him, he probably is responsible for those caricatures they call characters and that crap about the latino only old people home, this is his show its shit so I blame him.

[Great Rumbler]

He is the executive producer and head writer you can't get bigger roles than those.

Doesn't change that he's taking on a smaller role on each individual episode and that each episode has gotten steadily worse.

The fourth episode was actually written by Robert Kirkman, by the way.

Dude he is the show runner, everything needs his approval before being filmed every plot point, every character and every piece of dialog goes trough him, he probably is responsible for those caricatures they call characters and that crap about the latino only old people home, this is his show its shit so I blame him.

I imagine he's more likely responsible for setting the tone and the overall direction of the series, and then bringing in other writers/directors to handle the actual details beyond the first two episodes.

[Diunx]

From wiki

In television an executive producer might have more power than any other credited crew member — this is the case with the show runner. Generally a show runner (still credited as an executive producer) is the creator of a series and/or an influential staff writer on the show. Their role is to guide the overall creative progress of the show's story over the course of a season — basically, the de facto creative director of the show — and all creative decisions (from casting to script approval) go through them. Usually, while there may be many credited "producers" and "executive producers" (with varying responsibilities) on a television series, there are just one or two in the position of show runner.

This is his show man he is responsible for it and its quality.

[Great Rumbler]

Nothing there contradicts what I said. He's guiding the show, making the long-term decisions, and deciding who gets killed off. He's NOT in the writer's room everyday writing every single detail of the show and constantly standing behind the camera setting up shots and giving motivation to the actors. Which is unfortunate, because the episodes with every single detail handled by him have been the best so far.

[GilloD]

You guys are hilarious babies.

BUBBUB UBBUBUBUBUBU MAH ZOMBIE SHOW IS SO DIFFERENT FROM MAH ZOMBIE COMIC AND THE SHOW IS NOTHING LIKE MY REAL LIFE

Dude. It's a TV show. It has zombies, it's pretty good, has some action and a little feeling. It's not the fucking Wire, get over it. If you can't enjoy this show, you're a hopeless nerdlinger.

[Boogie]

What GilloD said.

Nothing there contradicts what I said. He's guiding the show, making the long-term decisions, and deciding who gets killed off. He's NOT in the writer's room everyday writing every single detail of the show and constantly standing behind the camera setting up shots and giving motivation to the actors. Which is unfortunate, because the episodes with every single detail handled by him have been the best so far.

and you know all of this for sure...HOW?

How do you know he's not being a JMS or Aaron Sorkin type?

[Great Rumbler]

Seems a safe assumption given that he's no longer listed as the director or writer beyond episodes 1 and 2.

[Diunx]

Nothing there contradicts what I said. He's guiding the show, making the long-term decisions, and deciding who gets killed off. He's NOT in the writer's room everyday writing every single detail of the show and constantly standing behind the camera setting up shots and giving motivation to the actors. Which is unfortunate, because the episodes with every single detail handled by him have been the best so far.

He is the show runner so he IS in the writers room everyday and he approves every horrible piece of dialog this show has, and Guillo the reason this show is so shitty has nothing to do with the comic.

[Boogie]

Seems a safe assumption given that he's no longer listed as the director or writer beyond episodes 1 and 2.

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[Great Rumbler]

They wouldn't have taken his name off the writing credit if his role wasn't diminished, or changed or however you want to say it, in some way.

[Diunx]

Dude he is the SHOWRUNNER do you really think that his role consist on directing/writing a couple of episodes and then go on a vacation or something he is in charge of the show, writers report to him, for example in the last season of Doctor Who Steven Moffat was the showrunner and he had input in every script going as far as to decide which villain to use and yet the credits only list him as a writer in the ones that he wrote.

[Great Rumbler]

Dude he is the SHOWRUNNER do you really think that his role consist on directing/writing a couple of episodes and then go on a vacation or something he is in charge of the show

Go find the post where I suggested that.

[brawndolicious]

Personally I don't have any problem with the show's dialog or writing but then I loved the fly episode of Breaking Bad so maybe there's no point trying to change anybody's opinion.

he probably is responsible for those caricatures they call characters and that crap about the latino only old people home, this is his show its shit so I blame him.

What's wrong with a latino-centric nursing home?  I think that would make sense with the language barrier and everything.  They did make it clear that a lot of the people left to run the place are the relatives of the seniors and that they only put on a thug image to look tough.  I don't remember them saying the nursing home was meant for latins though.

[chronovore]

The non-latino ones were turned into carnitas and menudo when local supplies began to run low.

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Gotta admit, I'm damned happy that Kirkman is getting paid for his accomplishment, and that I've got a weekly zombie TV show to watch because of it.

Invincible next, please.

[Phoenix Dark]

Just watched the pilot. sheeeeeeiiiiiiiitttt amazing. Rest of the episodes good, or does it fall off significantly?

[Great Rumbler]

Just watched the pilot. sheeeeeeiiiiiiiitttt amazing. Rest of the episodes good, or does it fall off significantly?

First one's the best, fourth episode was pretty meh except for the last few minutes. There's been a noticeable drop in quality, but I think it'll pick up a bit in the next two episodes.

[Diunx]

Just watched the pilot. sheeeeeeiiiiiiiitttt amazing. Rest of the episodes good, or does it fall off significantly?

Show is crap.

[Diunx]

Yep, never in a million years I would have imagine that I was gonna enjoy Terriers more than twd this fall.

[brawndolicious]

Just watched the pilot. sheeeeeeiiiiiiiitttt amazing. Rest of the episodes good, or does it fall off significantly?

Look at the comments, people either love the show or hate it.  If you liked the pilot, you'll probably like the rest of the season.

[Phoenix Dark]

ep3 was awesome too

Some of the acting is a bit too overdone (lots of yelling) but I wouldn't expect anything more from a zombie show. I HATE all zombie shit but I like this show

[Himu]

Tonight sucked.

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Seriously, 20 minutes of crying over a corpse for half a day, melodramatic acting, stupid "morals" such as burying vs burning when they're infected anyways, stupid moralizing the treatment of a dude who is infected and an endangerment to the whole camp,  5 minutes of them saying goodbye to Jim - and even then why the fuck did he choose to just turn into a zombie instead of just asking them to blow his brains out? - stupid forced character development (Shane goes from asshole with a head on his shoulders to psychopath who is willing to kill his best friend in the sum of two minutes for no reason just because of a petty disagreement), stupid scientist who ruins everything because of one accident (touching acid...really?), stupid cliche' "evil" government facility;etc

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It contained every single living thing I hate about the horror genre (especially zombie ones) in the time span of one hour.

[Phoenix Dark]

watched the fourth ep; hopefully the new one will  be uploaded before I have to head to bed. This show is pretty awesome. Never read the comic, and I hate zombie stuff. Kinda confused by Cohen's post: so far the only bad BAD case of acting/writing/dialogue has been the opening scene of ep4, with the sisters talking. Everything else has been pretty standard - nothing amazing, but nothing overly offensive. I didn't expect Breaking Bad quality writing/acting though.

[chronovore]

I think some people are disappointed that the show's not as brutal and direct as the comic.

[Phoenix Dark]

Another good episode. I'm getting Lost vibes though, especially at the end 

[Himu]

Don't remind me

[Phoenix Dark]

If that guy calls Rick "brotha" I'm gonna lose it

[Himu]

The ending of the show will be an elaborate battle between Shane, Rick, and their different ideologies.

Rick will defeat Shane with one final punch...

and as he does, God descends from heaven and tells them that they are allowed to enter his kingdom with all of the other survivors of the zombie apocalypse.

Four trumpets sound, the zombies warp to heaven, nestled in God's arms, anon to be devout soldiers of the kingdom once more.

The Earth descends into darkness and then...

wipe.

BOOM

"THE WALKING DEAD"

[Phoenix Dark]

spoilerz

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Dead Amy was way hotter than Alive Amy 

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[Himu]

Dead Boone is hotter than Alive Boone.

[BobFromPikeCreek]

Yuckkkkkkkkkk. Awful episode. So much fucking ham-fisted melodrama and corny dialog.

[Himu]

Yuckkkkkkkkkk. Awful episode. So much fucking ham-fisted melodrama and corny dialog.

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[Diunx]

This episode was so fucking back, 45 minutes of terrible acted melodrama, when the chinaguy was like "we don't burn our people!!!!!!" I was rofl and zombie amy was the most pathetic zombie I have ever seen and I loved how rick was going to give a fucking gun to a guy that had like two minutes left to live this is Heroes season 2 level of bad

[Diunx]

Maybe try lowering your standards and just enjoy it for what it is, no one will think less of you.

Ugh I hate this shit, why should I lower my standards to enjoy something? there are a lot of other shows that don't require me to do so to be enjoyable, maybe the team behind this should aim for good instead of just good enough if you lower your standard.

[Himu]

This episode was so fucking back, 45 minutes of terrible acted melodrama, when the chinaguy was like "we don't burn our people!!!!!!" I was rofl and zombie amy was the most pathetic zombie I have ever seen and I loved how rick was going to give a fucking gun to a guy that had like two minutes left to live this is Heroes season 2 level of bad

The WE DON'T BURN OUR PEOPLE THING got me too. Seriously?

[BobFromPikeCreek]

Hopefully this was their RAW EMOTIONS and TOUGH DECISIONS episode so they can focus on more interesting things in the next few.

[Diunx]

Maybe try lowering your standards and just enjoy it for what it is, no one will think less of you.

Ugh I hate this shit, why should I lower my standards to enjoy something? there are a lot of other shows that don't require me to do so to be enjoyable, maybe the team behind this should aim for good instead of just good enough if you lower your standard.

Because your expectations are way too high? Its a serialized drama and its the first one in this setting. I've seen so so many zombie movies and believe me, this one is pretty original in terms of how they treat the characters and the overall conflict. Its really not without its faults at all, nothing is, but I hardly see how it can be seen as "terrible" or be compared to Heroes.

My expectations weren't too high, this show is based on a great book series is being develop by an oscar nominee writer/director and this was hyped(not only by the fans but by the channel itself) as the next zomg best show ever!!!11!! on AMC so I was kinda expecting a high quality tv show not this c-movie crap, my expectations were on par with the talent behind the show.

[Tauntaun]

Show is awesome.

Haters annihilated.

 

Hey good lookin! 

[Dickie Dee]

This episode was so fucking back, 45 minutes of terrible acted melodrama, when the chinaguy was like "we don't burn our people!!!!!!" I was rofl and zombie amy was the most pathetic zombie I have ever seen and I loved how rick was going to give a fucking gun to a guy that had like two minutes left to live this is Heroes season 2 level of bad

The WE DON'T BURN OUR PEOPLE THING got me too. Seriously?

WTF was the problem with that, they were just keeping a bit of mental space between the people they were just talking and relating to a few moments ago and the walking carcases they just smushed the heads in of...What the hell do you want from this show??? Jeezus

[brawndolicious]

yeah I think you guys are expecting them to be much more war-hardened or some shit.  maybe they are in the comic but the characterizations in the series feels fine to me.

[Himu]

This episode was so fucking back, 45 minutes of terrible acted melodrama, when the chinaguy was like "we don't burn our people!!!!!!" I was rofl and zombie amy was the most pathetic zombie I have ever seen and I loved how rick was going to give a fucking gun to a guy that had like two minutes left to live this is Heroes season 2 level of bad

The WE DON'T BURN OUR PEOPLE THING got me too. Seriously?

WTF was the problem with that, they were just keeping a bit of mental space between the people they were just talking and relating to a few moments ago and the walking carcases they just smushed the heads in of...What the hell do you want from this show??? Jeezus

I guess I've never understood the human fascination with burial. Personally, in a zombie apocalypse, burn me if I die.

[Diunx]

I was referring to the horrible acting from glen and I actually thing that burning human bodies a couple of blocks from the city of the dead is a pretty stupid idea.

[fistfulofmetal]

dont like the direction the show is going. no so i don't like it.

[Diunx]

So apparently Darabont fired the whole writing staff

[Eel O'Brian]

It's not like he's any better.

[cool breeze]

to be fair, whoever wrote the 'no crying in the boat' scene was probably trying to sabotage the production.

[Himu]

So apparently Darabont fired the whole writing staff

what is going on

[Diunx]

I love that gaf thread, now all of the suddenly the writing sucks and Darabont is gonna fix it and rise the show to god tier.

[Himu]

How is gaf taking the latest ep?

The SA thread is mixed. Some are defending the episode, most think it was boring.

My troll in the SA thread made it to the thread's title

"death scenes should last 5 seconds to a minute at most"

PROVE ME WRONG

[Diunx]

Most people loved it and thought the death scenes were touching and develop the characters and all that crap, luckily there are a few sane people called it like it is, of course after the news about the writers now everyone agrees that the writing of the show is crap

[Himu]

The problem isn't the writing so much.

The problem is mostly editing. The premise of the sister's plight is interesting, conceptually. but the process takes too long.

In my head, I can do that scene in at least 3 different ways that would be far more emotional and last 3-4 minutes tops.

This is without mentioning the poorly edited sophomore-ish editing throughout the rest of the episode, like Jim seeing VISIONS OF ZOMBIES during his fever.

[GilloD]

http://tv.ign.com/articles/113/1137550p1.html

WELL I HOPE YOURE ALL HAPPY (okay the writing kind of stunk but I still thought the show was pretty good!)

[Third]

Season finale this weekend? WTF? Season 1 only consists out of 5 episodes? 

The comic is pretty good so far btw. Up tp page 490 already. Can't wait to see the new characters on the show.

[fistfulofmetal]

Season finale this weekend? WTF? Season 1 only consists out of 5 episodes? 

6 episodes. and it's been widely known since way before the show even premiered.

[fistfulofmetal]

to be fair, whoever wrote the 'no crying in the boat' scene was probably trying to sabotage the production.

you mean Kirkman

the writer of the comic