The Walking Dead

[Third]

Season finale this weekend? WTF? Season 1 only consists out of 5 episodes? 

6 episodes. and it's been widely known since way before the show even premiered.

gay

[BobFromPikeCreek]

http://tv.ign.com/articles/113/1137550p1.html

WELL I HOPE YOURE ALL HAPPY (okay the writing kind of stunk but I still thought the show was pretty good!)

I'm ok with this.

[Third]

God, this last episode was so worthless. I'm might be going comic exclusive.

[tehjaybo]

What I pulled from this article:

They also note that Darabont would be using the same model employed by Torchwood, which has several writers working on episodes for the upcoming re-launch on Starz

WHAT.

[Mr. Gundam]

What I pulled from this article:

They also note that Darabont would be using the same model employed by Torchwood, which has several writers working on episodes for the upcoming re-launch on Starz

WHAT.

I heard something about an American version of Torchwood a while back.

In its closing scenes, with Gwen heavily pregnant and Jack leaving Earth, Torchwood effectively no longer existed. Series four, Torchwood: The New World, will see Torchwood having been reduced to the status of legend following Children of Earth. The narrative will follow two CIA agents who encounter Torchwood's supernatural world, and later Gwen and Jack.[49] Gardner has stated, however, that as with series three, Cardiff will remain a part of the show's setting, with Gwen being Welsh and her young family based in Wales.

The Wiki page is vague, but mentions that American financing (along with the BBC) allowed for a fourth season to be made, and that it will be feature UK, American and worldwide locations. This sounds similar to how CBC helped finance the first season of Torchwood.

I wonder if they'll up the T&A content now that it's airing on Starz in the US?

[tehjaybo]

I wonder if they'll up the T&A content now that it's airing on Starz in the US?

I hope so.

  Gwen

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[Great Rumbler]

http://tv.ign.com/articles/113/1137550p1.html

WELL I HOPE YOURE ALL HAPPY (okay the writing kind of stunk but I still thought the show was pretty good!)

Hey, I told you guys that everything started to tank when Frank Darabont let the staff take over writing/directing!

[Mr. Gundam]

I wonder if they'll up the T&A content now that it's airing on Starz in the US?

I hope so.

  Gwen

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Will new bow-tie Dr. Who have any run-ins with Jack and Torchwood? I heard they filmed a few eps of the new season here in the states. It's also awesome news that we're actually getting the Christmas special on Christmas day.

[Third]

Just finished reading the comic. That was amazing. Shits all over the show.

[brawndolicious]

What does the comic do better or what is different than the show?

I thought the quality of the writing was decent but of course it's bs to start from a clean slate by firing all the writers when the first season was already finished months ago.  The show is getting good ratings and reviews so I don't know who AMC is trying to bullshit with this though.

[chronovore]

The comic's pace is a bit more relentless, if you want to consider a deaths- or horrible-shit-per-issue ratio. One episode of the TV show... well, hell, didn't we go 5 episodes with one death? One? In the comic, you're never sure who's going to be safe. Likely no-one, except Rick. Rick is the point of the series: how does a man change when faced with cataclysm?

[tehjaybo]

I wonder if they'll up the T&A content now that it's airing on Starz in the US?

I hope so.

  Gwen

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Will new bow-tie Dr. Who have any run-ins with Jack and Torchwood? I heard they filmed a few eps of the new season here in the states. It's also awesome news that we're actually getting the Christmas special on Christmas day.

I'm not sure but I totally HOPE SO.  Jack is one of my favorite characters from the entire Who-verse.  Also Christmas Special

[drew]

i would REALLY like to know which episodes Darabont wrote

[Great Rumbler]

i would REALLY like to know which episodes Darabont wrote

Did the first by himself, worked with one other person to write the second, the rest have varying degrees of support from him of the staff writers.

[ManaByte]

Apparently he "secretly" re-wrote every episode in the series.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

HELLO CONVENIENTLY PLACED PLOT DEVICE

[Himu]

AWESOME finale

[fistfulofmetal]

i did not like the direction the show was going into the finale.

however i really enjoyed the finale.

[Great Rumbler]

Missed the finale because I was watching Swamp Thing.

[cool breeze]

yeah, finale was good except for

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Shane stuff.

oh, so he wasn't lying about Rick dying! he's a good guy!
oh, he just tried to rape Lori...hmm, maybe he isn't good?
oh, everyone is cool at the breakfast table!
oh, he's going crazy with a shotgun...whatever fuck it

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[fistfulofmetal]

yeah, finale was good except for

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Shane stuff.

oh, so he wasn't lying about Rick dying! he's a good guy!
oh, he just tried to rape Lori...hmm, maybe he isn't good?
oh, everyone is cool at the breakfast table!
oh, he's going crazy with a shotgun...whatever fuck it

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it's clearly setup for killing him off next season. glad they've started early. and it was pretty obvious everyone wasn't "cool" at the breakfast table. the only two that knew about the rape situation (lori and shane) are clearly very tense and trying to hide it. shane going crazy shooting stuff is just showing his downward spiral.

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[Himu]

The shane stuff was the best stuff in this episode. I thought it made him an actually complex, confused character whose pathos are worth paying attention to rather than just being some excuse to extend the plot like in the last few eps.

he's a legitimately good guy with very often bad and very abrupt intentions, most of which could be wholly blamed for the apocalypse. I was all with Shane when he gave that rant to Lory until he tried to finger her.

[cool breeze]

yeah, finale was good except for

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Shane stuff.

oh, so he wasn't lying about Rick dying! he's a good guy!
oh, he just tried to rape Lori...hmm, maybe he isn't good?
oh, everyone is cool at the breakfast table!
oh, he's going crazy with a shotgun...whatever fuck it

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comic spoilers

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it's clearly setup for killing him off next season. glad they've started early. and it was pretty obvious everyone wasn't "cool" at the breakfast table. the only two that knew about the rape situation (lori and shane) are clearly very tense and trying to hide it. shane going crazy shooting stuff is just showing his downward spiral.

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comic spoilers again

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I was exaggerating a bit, but it was still clumsy.  Last episode had him aiming at Rick thinking about pulling the trigger.  A lot of the time it feels unwarranted and it's just there to make him seem like more conflicted; it's like someone said "shit, we're making him look good with him really thinking Rick was dead...have him rape Lori or start throwing out racial slurs or something."  The time when he should have lost his shit was when the scientist dude told everyone about what Rick said, and while he did, it wasn't directed at Rick.

The comic, despite having less information about the character, was able to have a smoother decent.  Here it feels like random bursts of anger, which isn't much different than Daryl, except since it's Shane it has 'meaning'.

Plus, Lori was a much bigger bitch in the comics.

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edit:  someone brought up a really good point about the whisper in the gaf thread
*comic spoilers*

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the doctor probably whispered that Lori was pregnant

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[fistfulofmetal]

comic spoilers again

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I was exaggerating a bit, but it was still clumsy.  Last episode had him aiming at Rick thinking about pulling the trigger.  A lot of the time it feels unwarranted and it's just there to make him seem like more conflicted; it's like someone said "shit, we're making him look good with him really thinking Rick was dead...have him rape Lori or start throwing out racial slurs or something."  The time when he should have lost his shit was when the scientist dude told everyone about what Rick said, and while he did, it wasn't directed at Rick.

The comic, despite having less information about the character, was able to have a smoother decent.  Here it feels like random bursts of anger, which isn't much different than Daryl, except since it's Shane it has 'meaning'.

Plus, Lori was a much bigger bitch in the comics.

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edit:  someone brought up a really good point about the whisper in the gaf thread
*comic spoilers*

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the doctor probably whispered that Lori was pregnant

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well yeah i would agree it's not a smooth decent. but then again we only have 6 episodes to play with. they have to push a lot into a short time (which is why 6 episode season is a terrible idea)

[BobFromPikeCreek]

SO
BAD

Tons of sobbing and people talking in circles. Yech. Awful script, awful special effects, awful acting. This show gets worse and worse with each episode.

Who else groaned when blondie didn't die?

[Himu]

I love how Dale is like COME WITH ME, BLONDE WHITE WOMAN while ignoring the black chick completely

[CajoleJuice]

SO
BAD

Tons of sobbing and people talking in circles. Yech. Awful script, awful special effects, awful acting. This show gets worse and worse with each episode.

Who else groaned when blondie didn't die?

Me.

[Himu]

i was screaming at the tv

[Himu]

I thought the Walking Dead finale was good, but only because I've reconciled that it's not a serious drama, at least not anymore. The last few episodes of the season felt like network television and certainly not something that was worthy of being on AMC. But I enjoyed it anyways.

[Mupepe]

So, I haven't watched since the 2nd episode.  I loved the first two.  Does it hold up well?  I plan on having a boardwalk empire, The Walking Dead and Dexter marathon over Christmas break.

[Himu]

So, I haven't watched since the 2nd episode.  I loved the first two.  Does it hold up well?  I plan on having a boardwalk empire, The Walking Dead and Dexter marathon over Christmas break.

It goes from awesome (episodes 1-3) to just enjoyable and extremely flawed (4-6)

[drew]

the only thing that bothers me about the show is the old white dude's forelorn surprised face

O_O

[cool breeze]

SO
BAD

Tons of sobbing and people talking in circles. Yech. Awful script, awful special effects, awful acting. This show gets worse and worse with each episode.

Who else groaned when blondie didn't die?

I don't believe you think episode 5 and 6 are worse than episode 4.  The boat scene in episode 4 was one of the worst thing I've seen on TV in recent memory, and I used to watch Heroes.

Episode 6 had problems but it was the third best episode for me.  Episode 1 was the best and remains awesome.  Episode 2 was great but the shit that would define the series started to come out.  3 was so-so, 4 was completely terrible, 5 was so-so, and 6 was good.  Overall it wasn't too great.  At least the first two episodes got me reading the comic.

[Third]

The comic's pace is a bit more relentless, if you want to consider a deaths- or horrible-shit-per-issue ratio. One episode of the TV show... well, hell, didn't we go 5 episodes with one death? One? In the comic, you're never sure who's going to be safe. Likely no-one, except Rick. Rick is the point of the series: how does a man change when faced with cataclysm?

Yeah, a lot of characters die in the comic. The movie is pretty tame.

HUGE COMIC SPOILER

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the prison arc was so harsh. It seemed as if all main characters died piece by piece. I almost screamed when they shot and killed Lori and the baby. Tyreese's death was also brutal.

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Don't think the show will ever reach that plottwist.

the only thing that bothers me about the show is the old white dude's forelorn surprised face

O_O

And Carl always has a cry face. So annoying.

[BobFromPikeCreek]

SO
BAD

Tons of sobbing and people talking in circles. Yech. Awful script, awful special effects, awful acting. This show gets worse and worse with each episode.

Who else groaned when blondie didn't die?

I don't believe you think episode 5 and 6 are worse than episode 4.  The boat scene in episode 4 was one of the worst thing I've seen on TV in recent memory, and I used to watch Heroes.

Episode 6 had problems but it was the third best episode for me.  Episode 1 was the best and remains awesome.  Episode 2 was great but the shit that would define the series started to come out.  3 was so-so, 4 was completely terrible, 5 was so-so, and 6 was good.  Overall it wasn't too great.  At least the first two episodes got me reading the comic.

I don't see how there was anything redeeming about this episode. Half of it was the lab guy saying "you can't leave, you can't leave" over and over again while characters walked around stomping their feet and occasionally lunged at him with weapons while everyone stopped them. Then Rick just has to say "give us a chance" and suddenly he'll open the doors? It was completely dull, tedious and tremendously stupid.

[Himu]

5 was clearly the worst episode, not 4.

[drew]

they both were and you know it

[Diunx]

This was so fucking horrible holly shit Shane drinking in the shower and the doctor terrible acted rant had me on the floor and the doctor whispering something in Rick's ear was

There are shows with 6 and even 3 episodes per season that run circles around this shit so I don't buy that defense at all, more episodes will mean more shit.

RIP random black girl #1 :'( (serious question does anyone even know her name?)

[BobFromPikeCreek]

This was so fucking horrible holly shit Shane drinking in the shower and the doctor terrible acted rant had me on the floor and the doctor whispering something in Rick's ear was

[Diunx]

I have to give probs to the writers, at least it wasn't the super smart computer that apparently runs the cdc that locked them in

[cool breeze]

SO
BAD

Tons of sobbing and people talking in circles. Yech. Awful script, awful special effects, awful acting. This show gets worse and worse with each episode.

Who else groaned when blondie didn't die?

I don't believe you think episode 5 and 6 are worse than episode 4.  The boat scene in episode 4 was one of the worst thing I've seen on TV in recent memory, and I used to watch Heroes.

Episode 6 had problems but it was the third best episode for me.  Episode 1 was the best and remains awesome.  Episode 2 was great but the shit that would define the series started to come out.  3 was so-so, 4 was completely terrible, 5 was so-so, and 6 was good.  Overall it wasn't too great.  At least the first two episodes got me reading the comic.

I don't see how there was anything redeeming about this episode. Half of it was the lab guy saying "you can't leave, you can't leave" over and over again while characters walked around stomping their feet and occasionally lunged at him with weapons while everyone stopped them. Then Rick just has to say "give us a chance" and suddenly he'll open the doors? It was completely dull, tedious and tremendously stupid.

I mostly agree...but it was still better than the last two episode.  I'm grading the series on a curve, so episode 6 fell into the good range for me.

[chronovore]

The comic's pace is a bit more relentless, if you want to consider a deaths- or horrible-shit-per-issue ratio. One episode of the TV show... well, hell, didn't we go 5 episodes with one death? One? In the comic, you're never sure who's going to be safe. Likely no-one, except Rick. Rick is the point of the series: how does a man change when faced with cataclysm?

Yeah, a lot of characters die in the comic. The movie is pretty tame.

HUGE COMIC SPOILER

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the prison arc was so harsh. It seemed as if all main characters died piece by piece. I almost screamed when they shot and killed Lori and the baby. Tyreese's death was also brutal.

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Don't think the show will ever reach that plottwist.

the only thing that bothers me about the show is the old white dude's forelorn surprised face

O_O

And Carl always has a cry face. So annoying.

You know, I wasn't super unhappy with #4 due to the appropriately horrifying conclusion.

Today I'm watching #5 during my commute today, and am not really enjoying it so far, at the halfway point. The opening exposition, disguised poorly as Rick looking for his friend Morgan and son was drippy-melodramatic monologue-y. I bet the actor felt GREAT about his "moment." Later, Andrea pulls a gun on Rick and he just says "OK, sorry for interrupting you while we wait for your dead sister to come back and endanger us all." And what was Shane doing? Thanks for having Rick's back while Andrea draws a gun on him. I'm just stunned things didn't escalate, though I would have paid good money to see her sister come back at that very instant, and Andrea just instinctively, BANG, blows her brains out and immediately freaks out at what she's done. (THE COMIC HANDLED THIS SCENE MOAR BETTAR.)

The "we don't burn our dead!" scene is dumb on dumb; from people who have seen their friends and family be eaten, or even doing the eating, I don't buy the willingness to just leave the intact, yet-to-reanimate bodies around for any length of time.

[TakingBackSunday]

this episode was by far the worst of the season.  it was terrible

[Diunx]

"Damn the axes aren't doing anything against this super thick glass"
T-dawwwwwwwg: "don't worry guys I have a CHAIR!!!!"

[Phoenix Dark]

Finale was good

Had some LOL moments, and some bad acting especially, but overall I liked it.

I like Dale 

[chronovore]

Finished ep. 5 -- clearly they're diverging from the comic a bunch at this point. Considering "it's just TV," I'm relegating myself to being happy that there's a zombie-themed TV show and it will have six more episodes.

The CDC thing... just... whatever.

Five is nearly my least favorite episode so far. The good-byes to Jim, the fondling of the sister while she turns, the battered wife getting her late swings in against her abuser, the mysteriously repaired Winnebago (um... huh?).

I still think El Hospice de la Raza was even less logical overall.

[ManaByte]

Finished ep. 5 -- clearly they're diverging from the comic a bunch at this point. Considering "it's just TV," I'm relegating myself to being happy that there's a zombie-themed TV show and it will have six more episodes.

The CDC thing... just... whatever.

Five is nearly my least favorite episode so far. The good-byes to Jim, the fondling of the sister while she turns, the battered wife getting her late swings in against her abuser, the mysteriously repaired Winnebago (um... huh?).

I still think El Hospice de la Raza was even less logical overall.

Season two is 13 episodes.

[brawndolicious]

I just watched the finale, it was decent but not too much happened in this episode or the whole season really.  Compare it to the first (6 episode) season of Breaking Bad for example.

[Phoenix Dark]

I just watched the finale, it was decent but not too much happened in this episode or the whole season really.  Compare it to the first (6 episode) season of Breaking Bad for example.

True. In 6 episodes Breaking Bad introduced its characters perfectly and set up the next season. I liked Walking Dead's finale, but at the same time it was rather predictable. You knew the CDC thing wouldn't last long, but having the thing explode mere hours after the group arrived was pretty contrived. Really felt like Lost/the hatch shit, but not done as well.

Does the CDC thing even happen in the comics? I know they go to Washington DC eventually

[chronovore]

Does the CDC thing even happen in the comics? I know they go to Washington DC eventually

In the comic, they go to Washington because of that mullet-sporting scientist...

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...who turns out not to have been a scientist, just a guy who is really good at lying and self-preserving.

They continue toward Washington anyway, since they're already on their way and nothing else is presenting itself, IIRC. Which makes about as much sense as heading back to Atlanta, because you've gotta know any major city is going to be overrun, same as Atlanta. But the weird thing is Dr. Mullet just seems to disappear from the storyline from the time he's found out as a fraud, through the end of the 12th trade paperback.

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[Phoenix Dark]

Does the CDC thing even happen in the comics? I know they go to Washington DC eventually

In the comic, they go to Washington because of that mullet-sporting scientist...

spoiler (click to show/hide)

...who turns out not to have been a scientist, just a guy who is really good at lying and self-preserving.

They continue toward Washington anyway, since they're already on their way and nothing else is presenting itself, IIRC. Which makes about as much sense as heading back to Atlanta, because you've gotta know any major city is going to be overrun, same as Atlanta. But the weird thing is Dr. Mullet just seems to disappear from the storyline from the time he's found out as a fraud, through the end of the 12th trade paperback.

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I read some spoilers earlier about DC

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concerning The Governor and Rick's wife dying (can't wait for that, tired of her). I wonder if Meryl will be the Governor?

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[Enl]

I had to comb my movie memory banks to figure out where I've heard the music from the cimax before. It's from Rabit Proof Fence (which has an excellent score beyond this):

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[chronovore]

Does the CDC thing even happen in the comics? I know they go to Washington DC eventually

In the comic, they go to Washington because of that mullet-sporting scientist...

spoiler (click to show/hide)

...who turns out not to have been a scientist, just a guy who is really good at lying and self-preserving.

They continue toward Washington anyway, since they're already on their way and nothing else is presenting itself, IIRC. Which makes about as much sense as heading back to Atlanta, because you've gotta know any major city is going to be overrun, same as Atlanta. But the weird thing is Dr. Mullet just seems to disappear from the storyline from the time he's found out as a fraud, through the end of the 12th trade paperback.

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Huh? That's not DC. That's much earlier.

I read some spoilers earlier about DC

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concerning The Governor and Rick's wife dying (can't wait for that, tired of her). I wonder if Meryl will be the Governor?

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[Nintendosbooger]

Just purchased some of the comic books from Amazon.

While I've enjoyed the show, I've never been entirely pleased by screen adaptions of literature in the past, so if I like the show, I can only imagine how much I'll love the books.

[chronovore]

Trade paperback #13 showed up in the mail today, apparently Amazon.co.jp fulfilled through NEW YORK. I'd forgotten I'd ordered it, since it was placed with #12 and #11...

Trying to savor this one since I won't be getting more for a bit, I suspect.

[CHOW CHOW]

Wow, didn't expect to read all this criticism about the show... I think you're all being overly critical.  It's better than most of the shows on TV.

Loved the last ep, well the last 10-15 minutes of it at least.  It was tense and exciting.