Ys: Oath in Felghana PSP

[Enl]

Release: Tomorrow! 
Price: Standard/PSN - $29.99
         Premium - $39.99

After years of only being available on PC in Japan, Ys:OiF is finally getting an overseas release! It's my personal favorite entry of the series and has my favorite Ys soundtrack as well. While the character customization is not as deep as Ys 7, its combat has a more fast paced arcadiness to it and requires a good amount of hand and eye coordination. Hopefully the port of this turns out ok.



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[iconoclast]

its combat has a more fast paced arcadiness to it and requires a good amount of hand and eye coordination.

sold. some day.

[Van Cruncheon]

BOUGHT

[cool breeze]

I'm excited after hearing people say this is better than 7, and 7 was fucking awesome.

[Van Cruncheon]

yeah, 7 was the sweet chocolate tits.

[MCD]

I'm currently at Ruins Island in YS7 and so far it was ok, no sweet chocolate tits.

Bosses are fun though.

[tiesto]

Already got my limited edition preordered and paid in full. 

Game is a lot of fun with one of the best soundtracks in gaming history.

[cool breeze]

if you ordered it at Amazon, they dropped the price of the LE down to $29.82, a whopping 83 cent increase from the regular version.  it should apply automatically if you already had it ordered.  only problem seems to be the ship date is late november instead of today.  but I just ordered that version, so maybe the people who already had it got it at the regular time.

[Enl]

Just began playing around with this a bit. Here's some quick impressions:

- 5 difficulties unlocked from start (ulike the PC where you had to beat the game to unlock them)
- Lots of options including one to turn off voices and change between 3 music styles
- Oh god the voices! Off you go.
- Holding 'O' speeds through the cutscenes
- Game loads super quick (UMD) in fact I haven't noticed any game loading so far
- Blood and gibs are still there
- Game looks decent on PSP though sprites are a little on the soft side

[Van Cruncheon]

this is radical

[MCD]

Is it out on PSN yet?

Proud PSP Go user here.

[MCD]

It's up along with that new GOW game.

Downloadan.

[MCD]

Voices are good. Enl proves he is old.

Looks and feels so much better than YS7.

[magus]

i liked and finished 6 but i found 7 to be pretty boring so i quickly stopped playing

should i give this a chance?
 

[MCD]

Yes, 7 is just slow and repetitive.

[Bebpo]

7 is great if you skip all the story and sidequests and speed run it as an action game ala, Oath.  I finished it in 14 hours (vs. most people's 25-30) and it was non-stop intense action.  So good

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

About an hour into the game.  It's pretty great!  Not a whole lot of BS to get through to start hacking and slashing.

[magus]

7 is great if you skip all the story and sidequests and speed run it as an action game ala, Oath.  I finished it in 14 hours (vs. most people's 25-30) and it was non-stop intense action.  So good

personaly from the little i played,i just couldn't like the normal dungeon,they were just dull and fight with normal grunts seems to be a matter of mashing attack like crazy

i don't know,i wanted something like alundra and ys 7 felt like i was playing lame-o diablo

[Enl]

First dungeon is the most mashy. Past that things start to get more varied especialy later on when they start to incorporate more platforming bits.

[Bebpo]

7 is great if you skip all the story and sidequests and speed run it as an action game ala, Oath.  I finished it in 14 hours (vs. most people's 25-30) and it was non-stop intense action.  So good

personaly from the little i played,i just couldn't like the normal dungeon,they were just dull and fight with normal grunts seems to be a matter of mashing attack like crazy

i don't know,i wanted something like alundra and ys 7 felt like i was playing lame-o diablo

No, you're right.  The main difference between Ys Oath/Origin (And maybe 6) vs. Ys Seven is that the enemies are a threat in earlier Ys, but in Ys Seven they are just grunts there to give you loot.  So earlier Ys games are thrilling "make it to the next checkpoint" affairs and Ys Seven is more like "lemme explore this dungeon and get my loot on".  But then the boss fights in Ys Seven were awesome and challenging so it didn't bother me that much.  But I agree the earlier Ys with threatening enemies is better.

[Himu]

What the fuck firmware do I need to play this?! Also what the fuck cfw should I be running now? I'm running 5.50 Gen-D3

[Enl]

I have 5.50 CFW and it runs just fine.

[Himu]

i installed prometheus 5.50 and it's go

[Himu]

Anyone want an Ys special edition case, soundtrack cd and calendar unopened and sealed (well except the case that is) for free? Includes everything but the game.

I don't need this stupid special edition bullshit. That crap takes up too much shelf space for crap I don't care about nor need. It was the only copy they had.

[magus]

mmm this definitely feel closer to ys 6,you jump to dodge stuff,there is no awfull party to switch around and you even shot fireball out of your ass

the controls feel a little stiff... there were times where i pressed O and adolf decided to not jump and getting hit anyway maybe it's just my psp showing it's age...

i'm not convinced but i'm definitely going to give this a bigger chance than the one i gave at 7

[Damian79]

So Ys 7 is no good?

[tiesto]

So Ys 7 is no good?

Just started playing (beat the first boss) and I like it so far.

[Enl]

So Ys 7 is no good?

I really enjoyed it but if you were to choose between Ys 7 and Felghana go with Felghana. Ys 7 felt like a Diablo-fied Ys game where as Felghana is more Zelda-like.

[demi]

Himu send me the entire package when you're done with the game so I can play it.

[Bebpo]

So Ys 7 is no good?

I really liked it.  Good looking and tons of fun.  A++ soundtrack too.  I didn't even think the story was bad, it was just simple and 16-bit nostalgic.  The game is not as good as Oath but it's still a better arpg than 90% of them.  It just happens that Oath is basically the best arpg there is, so it's tough to compare.

[Damian79]

Thanks guys.

[Himu]

Ys III ps2 remake should have been made an unlockable.

[magus]

after you finish the 2nd dungeon you get an item that makes you run faster and another one that let you warp between save point's as you want... they should have give you these a lot sooner

anyway this is a lot cooler than 7,you explore a dungeon and you find a new sword and that new sword kicks ass! compare that to 7 where you open a chest and there are 10 bones that maybe you will be able to turn into a slightly better sword after you get 5 other iron ore from digging around

personaly i have heard a lot of people saying how awesome y's music but i don't really like it that much

[iconoclast]

I grabbed the undub of this. I've never played a Ys game before, but I read that bosses have more attacks on hard difficulty so I guess I'll start there.

presumably good difficulty design

[magus]

i'm playing on normal and dying quite a bit,there is an option for lowering the difficulty if you die too much anyway

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I'm playing it on easy and haven't died once

[Himu]

I'm on normal and this game is the tits. I'm in some fire dungeon and it is absolutely badass.

[iconoclast]

I like how there are control issues for the very first major boss in the game. Had to rebind jump to R. I'm not even sure how it's possible to kill that boss with the default bindings. :|

Fun game so far other than that.

Also the art is super generic. Almost as generic as Type-Moon stuff.

[MCD]

Pretty good for a harem rpg.

[Himu]

I like how there are control issues for the very first major boss in the game. Had to rebind jump to R. I'm not even sure how it's possible to kill that boss with the default bindings. :|

Fun game so far other than that.

Also the art is super generic. Almost as generic as Type-Moon stuff.

what boss

[Bebpo]

I like how there are control issues for the very first major boss in the game. Had to rebind jump to R. I'm not even sure how it's possible to kill that boss with the default bindings. :|

Fun game so far other than that.

Also the art is super generic. Almost as generic as Type-Moon stuff.

Ys art always sucks.  They need to get it on par with the quality of the music and gameplay one of these days.  Needs a P3 style makeover visually.

Pretty good for a harem rpg.

<3 MCD

[iconoclast]

I like how there are control issues for the very first major boss in the game. Had to rebind jump to R. I'm not even sure how it's possible to kill that boss with the default bindings. :|

Fun game so far other than that.

Also the art is super generic. Almost as generic as Type-Moon stuff.

what boss

The demon lady at the end of the first dungeon. You have to charge magic (hold square) and jump over her wave attacks at the same time (circle).

And yeah the music is awesome. Taking a break for now though because there's nothing that cramps my hands faster than a PSP.

[magus]

i had the same problem as iconoclast only i mapped magic to triangle instead

[Bebpo]

I don't remember there being control issues but then I played it on a PS2 controller and I just played Ys Origin (should be same controls) on X360 controller.

The controls for Origin on a X360 control were:
A - slash
Y - magic, hold for charge
B - jump
X - burst mode (not in Oath)
L/R - cycle magic

So you could hold Y while jumping  or slash with A while jumping.

Can you make the PSP controls like that?

[magus]

yes you can but the default configuration is

X - Attack
O - Jump
/\ - Burst
[] - Magic

so if you want to jump and cast magic at the same time,you have to press both O and [] which is awkward

[Himu]

I like how there are control issues for the very first major boss in the game. Had to rebind jump to R. I'm not even sure how it's possible to kill that boss with the default bindings. :|

Fun game so far other than that.

Also the art is super generic. Almost as generic as Type-Moon stuff.

what boss

The demon lady at the end of the first dungeon. You have to charge magic (hold square) and jump over her wave attacks at the same time (circle).

And yeah the music is awesome. Taking a break for now though because there's nothing that cramps my hands faster than a PSP.

It's easy. Press circle. Position Adol. Mash square.

 

[Bebpo]

yes you can but the default configuration is

X - Attack
O - Jump
/\ - Burst
[] - Magic

so if you want to jump and cast magic at the same time,you have to press both O and [] which is awkward

Ah, then yeah just switch bust and magic.

[iconoclast]

It's easy. Press circle. Position Adol. Mash square.

 

Mashing square does 2 damage per fireball on a boss that has 600 hp. And you get like 10 fireballs before you have to wait for it to recharge. So it is possible to beat her that way, but you can't charge your magic and it will take forever.

Fighting the boss like this with the default controls is basically impossible:

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It's not even a big deal, it's just... I don't see how they could have playtested the game for more than 10 minutes without noticing this flaw.

[Himu]

The secret to that boss battle is going into hyper mode or whatever. Think of them as "turns". Each Hyper Mode fireball onslaught takes out about 80 hp at the right level.

[Himu]

Also, I'm surprised that, since you're an action gamer, you haven't learned the trick of dual button presses.

Tip of thumb on square, fat part of thumb on circle.

Easy.

[iconoclast]

Yeah, or you could lay the system flat on your lap and use your index and middle finger to hit the buttons, but it's still extremely clumsy. It's just bad button mapping.

Sometimes having to play stuff unconventionally is fine if there's simply no better way to go about it, like having to use a claw hand with Monster Hunter. Fixing the problem with Ys just involves swapping two buttons.

[Himu]

how the fuck do you use the charge attack on that boss anyways

does this game have new game plus or something? I just fucking got that move and I'm on the second (er..third?) dungeon.

[iconoclast]

Right before the boss there's a path you can climb that has a translucent chest at the end. You have to light the torch on the wall for it to appear, inside it is the ruby that lets you charge.

[Himu]

fucking hell

[magus]

i missed it first time too... then i realized i was doing crappy damage to the boss,went back and found it

[Himu]

Okay, I wasn't having trouble with jump being mapped to circle until this dragon boss. I also kinda dislike how you can't use healing items. Wittling a boss to like 100 hp and dying because of some bullshit is aggravating.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Just started the Abandoned Mine.  At Level 22 and about 3 1/2 hours in.

Game is still great.

[magus]

you know maybe i just sucks at the game but the fact that bosses don't flinch when you hit them really annoys me to no end,80% of the time i get hit is because i'm busy hacking at the boss and since the boss NEVER EVER stops from attacking you really have no choice other than taking damage

[iconoclast]

Nah, they all have patterns and attacks that leave them open once they miss. You just need to pick your shots. I'd say the bosses have been pretty  great so far. Just got done with the first one in the abandoned mine.

Been playing this as I watch the SoCal Regionals. I started skipping all of the story sequences because it's just generic fantasy pap that couldn't be any less interesting. Just send me to the next dungeon plz.

[Himu]

the story is decent. i like seeing chester be a fuck nut.