Anyone getting fooled into buying GT5?

[Rman]

Thread title should be renamed to: Official GT5 thread of unlocking damage.

[Diunx]

If the game really is as bad as people say I hope Sony does something about PD even if this meets their sales expectations, this game will definitely hurt the brand not to mention all the money that was spend in a product that ended up not meeting the standard, and then people wonders why publishers just don't let developers do whatever they want and just sign the checks 

[Raban]

Thread title should be renamed to: Official GT5 thread of unlocking damage control

Fixed.

I do lament GT5 being trash, however, I was hoping for a sequel to Tourist Trophy. But now I'm not so sure I want one.

[Third]

The game's graphics aren't really constant. Sometimes it looks like the best game ever, and sometimes it looks like Forza aka average.
But the handling is superior. No sim racer has better gameplay.

And the loading can be annoying at times. I consumed a whole meal during the installation, and the loading still sucks.

I can understand the lower scores. But this game's still very good. There's so much stuff to do.

[ManaByte]

Really? Everyone is saying Forza still has better handling; especially with the tire physics. Then again, one can't assume that a Sfag ever even played Forza 3.

[Third]

I only downloaded the first disc.

[ferrarimanf355]

this is glorious 

even the head of NeoGAF is getting bent out of shape. 

God fucking dammit, why did I get perma'd over there? 

[pilonv1]

Only bad drivers have framerate and tearing problems in GT5"

have to admit this was awesome.

[TripleA]

Eurogamer loved GT5.

This confirms that it is awesome.

[TripleA]

I only downloaded the first disc.

Shame on you.

[TripleA]

Really? Everyone is saying Forza still has better handling; especially with the tire physics. Then again, one can't assume that a Sfag ever even played Forza 3.

By "everyone" are you referring to the fine folks over at xbox.com

[TripleA]

The game's graphics aren't really constant. Sometimes it looks like the best game ever, and sometimes it looks like Forza aka average.
But the handling is superior. No sim racer has better gameplay.

And the loading can be annoying at times. I consumed a whole meal during the installation, and the loading still sucks.

I can understand the lower scores. But this game's still very good. There's so much stuff to do.

I'm not sure if you've played Forza before, the game has some lengthy load times as well.

[chronovore]

Can we ban people for making repeated posts in the same thread which are only 20 seconds apart? I've got him on Ignore, but I keep being fooled into thinking there's progress in the conversation, when it's just one soapbox wailer.

[pilonv1]

SCEE has confirmed to NowGamer that more damage features are set for Gran Turismo 5 'at a later date'

There has been some confusion over the damage modelling in the game with physical deformation definitely included, but question marks over the touted mechanical damage.

GT5 producer Kazunori Yamauchi responded to a tweet on Tuesday from a reviewer at Level 17 in the game asking whether mechanical damage was in fact included. "It will appear later," Yamauchi wrote, but still it wasn't clear if the developer meant later in the game or at a later date via an update.

"We hope to introduce even more damage features"

We can now confirm that Sony intends to add new features to Gran Turismo 5 "at a later". An SCEE representative told NowGamer this evening:

"We hope to introduce even more damage features at a later date and will provide an update on this as soon as we can."

This cannot be real.

[TripleA]

Stop crying.

[TripleA]

SCEE has confirmed to NowGamer that more damage features are set for Gran Turismo 5 'at a later date'

There has been some confusion over the damage modelling in the game with physical deformation definitely included, but question marks over the touted mechanical damage.

GT5 producer Kazunori Yamauchi responded to a tweet on Tuesday from a reviewer at Level 17 in the game asking whether mechanical damage was in fact included. "It will appear later," Yamauchi wrote, but still it wasn't clear if the developer meant later in the game or at a later date via an update.

"We hope to introduce even more damage features"

We can now confirm that Sony intends to add new features to Gran Turismo 5 "at a later". An SCEE representative told NowGamer this evening:

"We hope to introduce even more damage features at a later date and will provide an update on this as soon as we can."

This cannot be real.

Multi-player updates have been a common thing this generation.

Time to prepare for tomorrow.

[Great Rumbler]

SCEE has confirmed to NowGamer that more damage features are set for Gran Turismo 5 'at a later date'

There has been some confusion over the damage modelling in the game with physical deformation definitely included, but question marks over the touted mechanical damage.

GT5 producer Kazunori Yamauchi responded to a tweet on Tuesday from a reviewer at Level 17 in the game asking whether mechanical damage was in fact included. "It will appear later," Yamauchi wrote, but still it wasn't clear if the developer meant later in the game or at a later date via an update.

"We hope to introduce even more damage features"

We can now confirm that Sony intends to add new features to Gran Turismo 5 "at a later". An SCEE representative told NowGamer this evening:

"We hope to introduce even more damage features at a later date and will provide an update on this as soon as we can."

This cannot be real.

"At a later date" = Sometime in 2012. Maybe.

[Rman]

Wait, you can't restart a race immediately after you finish it

It apparently takes you back to main menu after you complete a race.  I don't know what's up with Japanese developers and intuitive game UI or the lack thereof. 

[pilonv1]

You cant re-start a race in real life. Only a poor driver would choose that option.

[Stoney Mason]

Wait, you can't restart a race immediately after you finish it

<SDF>why would you want to start a race right away anyways?</SDF>

and , yes, people are actually saying that  :'(

The hardest of the hardcore will always say dumb stuff. But yeah SDF is pretty bad. I still remember how achievements and vibration were stupid to Sony Fans until Sony could catch up.

[Bebpo]

From my first race on GT4 track with Premium Civic







The standard cars are so dumb.  On their own they're fine, but because your opponents are a random mix of premium and standard, you'll pull up behind two cars while driving and it looks like this:

[Bebpo]

anyhow game sucks, I got fooled again shame on me

this was the first and likely last time I power the game on and will go install Flatout racing to make up for it.  GT5 is SO BORING.  And it's been made in a vacuum where Forza and American/European developed racers don't exist.  So many dumb design decisions.  The graphics look great and are the least of GT5's problems.  Handling is great, but the lack of damage is ridiculous.  The AI is fuckstupid and knocks you around and it's basically bumper cars.  And you hit a wall and bounce right off.  Even the sound effect is the worst THUD ever when you contact anything and get no damage.  The career progression is boring.  I tried a snow rally race and compared to the exciting Rally of Dirt 2 it's a joke, especially with the lack of damage.  No rewind, no replay races, no photo mode during race and

LOADING
LOADING
LOADING
for every single action even after a 10gig install. (forza3 had stupid loading like that too, which is why I played it for 2 days and then never again)

Awful stuff.  5/10.  Gonna tell myself I won't buy Forza 4, GT6 but I know I still will   I hate these games.


PGR, DIRT, SEGA RALLY REVO, BURNOUT PARADISE, TEST DRIVE UNLIMITED
FORZA, GT

[pilonv1]

Flat Out is phenomenal.

[Sho Nuff]

Would you say that this is the FF14 of racing games

[Bebpo]

Not really, GT3/4 were already getting boring.  This just takes it to another level with even more loading and lack of expected features.

I'm glad GT5 exists though.  Looking at other people's photo mode pictures will be far more entertaining than ever playing the game itself.
PS. photomode is a pain in the ass to use compared to PGR/Forza.  Seriously, Kaz needs some fucking humbling so he actually takes notice of his competition in the west for once.

[brawndolicious]

After installing both disks, Forza's loading was just bearable.

[Sho Nuff]

Have you played Forza Motorsport 3?

"I was watching the guys at our company trying it out in the office. I tried it a little bit. It's very similar in a lot of aspects to Gran Turismo, but some basic parts of the game are very different from Gran Turismo. It's a little bit different from a simulator and you can feel that when you drive it."

Kaz needs some fucking humbling so he actually takes notice of his competition in the west for once.

As long as the game sells it will never happen.

[Sho Nuff]

darr double post

[Bebpo]

 

 :'(

[Rman]

Don't you need a wheel to get the most from the ''driving'' games anyway?

[pilonv1]

Have you played Forza Motorsport 3?

"I was watching the guys at our company trying it out in the office. I tried it a little bit. It's very similar in a lot of aspects to Gran Turismo, but some basic parts of the game are very different from Gran Turismo. It's a little bit different from a simulator and you can feel that when you drive it."

Kaz needs some fucking humbling so he actually takes notice of his competition in the west for once.

As long as the game sells it will never happen.

So he didn't play it but knows it's different?

[Stoney Mason]

Have barely followed this game since I don't own a playstation 3. But I watched the giant bomb live thread they had today. It looked like a good game but perhaps all the release time and expectations were too great since it took so long. Of course the menu stuff and general interface stuff looked like garbage so that might be part of the problem also.

What's become tiresome both on GAF and occasionally over here is how this and Forza have become some sort of proxy war for consoles. It's a sim racer. If these weren't console exclusives for the most part nobody on messageboards would be interested in either game. Just like all the other simulation style videogames that regularly get ignored.

 

[Cormacaroni]

Have you played Forza Motorsport 3?

"I was watching the guys at our company trying it out in the office. I tried it a little bit. It's very similar in a lot of aspects to Gran Turismo, but some basic parts of the game are very different from Gran Turismo. It's a little bit different from a simulator and you can feel that when you drive it."

Kaz needs some fucking humbling so he actually takes notice of his competition in the west for once.

As long as the game sells it will never happen.

The only shocking part of that quote is the news that he was in the office at some point.

[Cormacaroni]

What's become tiresome both on GAF and occasionally over here is how this and Forza have become some sort of proxy war for consoles. It's a sim racer. If these weren't console exclusives for the most part nobody on messageboards would be interested in either game. Just like all the other simulation style videogames that regularly get ignored.

i disagree partly - it IS a proxy war for sure though. If you like Forza , you should like GT and vice versa. There's somethings better on one than the other, but at the end of the day you are either a racing sim fan or you aren't - anyone saying either of these game is "Sh!t" whilst the other is "ZOMG amazing!" is taking out of their big cavernous ar$es.

Strongly disagree. The more of a sim fan you are, the more the things a game gets wrong will drive you crazy. Hence, my rants about driving a cardboard box-cum-dodgem car in GT. I want to like it, and I keep buying the games; I just don't like playing them.

[Bebpo]

The thing that bugs me the most about photo mode (since even if I'm not big on sim racers, I love take virtual photography and taking photos is almost fun enough to support a game) is this:

so unlike normal games, you can't just pause during a race and go into photo mode.  You have to finish the race, then start a replay then pause it and go into photo mode.
...ok that's dumb but I can live with that.

But unless I'm missing something you can't fast forward or rewind replays like EVERY OTHER RACING GAME ON THE PLANET.  So if you want to take a photo of a specific spot you have to:
1. finish the race
2. watch the replay all the way up to that spot
3. try not to miss it and if you decide you wanted to take the photo sooner, rewatch the whole replay to that point again

This makes taking pictures of specific things a huge pain in the ass.  So basically normal racer = take cool picture when interesting things happen, GT5 = try to take cool picture out of random spots during the race that you pick out watching the replay (preferably towards the start of the race).

So dumb.  And then like Forza3, everytime you do snap a picture you have wait for it to render which is annoying. :\

[brawndolicious]

Well GT and Forza are trying to replicate the same experience obviously.  If you think one of the games is better in every way, why pick up the other?

[Bebpo]

the rally stuff is absolutely brilliant for a start.

I was excited about the Rally courses going in, but the few I tried felt soulless compared to Sega Rally Revo or Dirt.  The cars weren't sliding around like crazy as I'd expect them to be, and I was just bumping off of things without losing much momentum.  It felt too much like a normal track race than the slippery rough feel I get from those rally games.

[Cormacaroni]

Yeah, the rally stuff is good. Or at least it was back in the day when we only had a few decent options in that realm.

DC - The sim world is like hi-fi buffs, or wine freaks or any other group of manic obsessives. A hi-fi buff is quite capable of taking a massive shit on a $50,000 audio rig because it doesn't suit their preferences. A casual fan of music is going to think anything in that price range is amazing.

Once you spend a few hours tweaking tire pressure in Forza 3 and noticing the difference on the track, the lack of it in GT will drive you crazy and make you never want to play GT.

Basically DC, you are just not hardcore like me. Too casual to swim in this pool

[Sho Nuff]

My copy is waiting in my car (which ironically is not even in the game, 2009 Honda Fit). Can't wait to install this filthy hooker and put it through its paces

[pilonv1]

Can't wait to install this

Oh you'll be waiting

[Sho Nuff]

I'll finish the last quarter of Medal of Honor as it does 

[archie4208]

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They look practically the same.

Except GT5 has a worse framerate.

And more screen tearing.

[TripleA]

My copy is waiting in my car (which ironically is not even in the game, 2009 Honda Fit)

Why would they want crayola on their van gogh

[TripleA]

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They look practically the same.

Except GT5 has a worse framerate.

And more screen tearing.

I'm legitimately surprised that a PC gamer would fail to understand that more objects on screen = impact on performance.

 :munch

[Great Rumbler]

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They look practically the same.

Except GT5 has a worse framerate.

And more screen tearing.

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[Sho Nuff]

My copy is waiting in my car (which ironically is not even in the game, 2009 Honda Fit)

Why would they want crayola on their van gogh

I like how if your car isn't in the game, oh, that's because your car is shit  

more objects on screen = impact on performance.

Yes, they certainly didn't plan for there being more than one car driving around at once 

Edit: 1 hour ago it told me that the game would be installed in 20 minutes. Oh Kaz, can you ever tell the truth about when something will be ready?

[TripleA]

What's become tiresome both on GAF and occasionally over here is how this and Forza have become some sort of proxy war for consoles. It's a sim racer. If these weren't console exclusives for the most part nobody on messageboards would be interested in either game. Just like all the other simulation style videogames that regularly get ignored.

i disagree partly - it IS a proxy war for sure though. If you like Forza , you should like GT and vice versa. There's somethings better on one than the other, but at the end of the day you are either a racing sim fan or you aren't - anyone saying either of these game is "Sh!t" whilst the other is "ZOMG amazing!" is taking out of their big cavernous ar$es.

It's a 'war' because no matter how quickly Turn10 excretes Forza games, the franchise will never replace Gran Turismo as the premium console racing game. The Xbox faithful know this thus the bitter tears.

In a way, it's also why people still dislike the Wii. No matter how many peripherals and Oprah pay-offs, the Wii will never be outsold and will forever be recognized as the console that demolished both 360 and Ps3.

The King will always be a target.

[TripleA]

My copy is waiting in my car (which ironically is not even in the game, 2009 Honda Fit)

Why would they want crayola on their van gogh

I like how if your car isn't in the game, oh, that's because your car is shit  

more objects on screen = impact on performance.

Yes, they certainly didn't plan for there being more than one car driving around at once 

Edit: 1 hour ago it told me that the game would be installed in 20 minutes. Oh Kaz, can you ever tell the truth about when something will be ready?

I'd rather drive a trashcan.

[TripleA]

After installing both disks, Forza's loading was just bearable.

That's what you're telling yourself.

[pilonv1]

so what do you drive then?

[Sho Nuff]

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I'd rather drive a trashcan.

You know you love those curves, big boy...come on, give it a kiss

[TripleA]

so what do you drive then?

An M-Class.

Nothing special, hence the reason why I'm not crying that it's not in GT5.

[TripleA]

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I'd rather drive a trashcan.

(Image removed from quote.)

You know you love those curves, big boy...come on, give it a kiss

What is this abomination

[pilonv1]

[TripleA]

Disgusting.

[Eel O'Brian]

so what does your mom drive you around in, then?

fixt

[pilonv1]

What I was implying, was hoping I'd get a better response

[Great Rumbler]

[TripleA]

so what does your mom drive you around in, then?

fixt

Oh you totally nailed that guy.

[TripleA]

What I was implying, was hoping I'd get a better response

What synth do you play