Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?

[iconoclast]

If Kinect and their Wii-like games are successful, probably never.

[Third]

They sure did economise on the soundtrack. It's basically the same OST as in the SNES games. Not that I mind.
Just finished the Jungle world. The game shits all over NSMB Wii.

[Darunia]

Could never get into the other DKC games but this one is incredible so far. Only beat the first two worlds, but if this keeps up... Retro > Rare

[EmCeeGrammar]

In a way I think this game validates Retro Studios. I suspected they might only be 'good enough' for a  'good enough' metroid, and then like 3 heads of the studio ran off to EA. Nevertheless, with the super positive reception this game is getting I have full faith in the studio. Hopefully they get some leverage to launch their own ip now, although I wouldn't mind them taking a whack at something like fzero, if only to expand their genre capabilities further.

[TakingBackSunday]

I honestly probably wouldn't mind them taking charge of a Zelda game *shrugs*

this game is just so so fucking good.  I also think it's better than NSMB Wii...and I thought NSMB Wii was insanely good.

[EmCeeGrammar]

Nintendo already has a dedicated Zelda team, and theres more to Nintendo than platformers and Zelda, guys.. come on.

[TakingBackSunday]

Who cares?  Retro was about to work on a Zelda game before Nintendo changed their mind and gave them Donkey Kong instead.  Let them do what they want.  And I think they'd really like doing a Zelda game.

[EmCeeGrammar]

Because they're already about to release a new Zelda game that sounds pretty good, it would be redundant for them to do another Zelda when they could be given the chance to reinvigorate another franchise or embark on a new intellectual property.  I was really crestfallen when I found out EAD tokyo was working on another Super Mario Galaxy game, those two years could've been working on something original to diversify the wii portfolio.

'But Emceegramr, who cares? Super Mario Galaxy 2 was so awesome'
Well I didn't much care for Galaxy 2, sir, despite it being good it just didn't resonate with me.

[EmCeeGrammar]

You wanna new starfox?
Sin and Punishment 2 for 15 bucks
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[Van Cruncheon]

good god this is horrible

[Oblivion]

good god this is horrible

If you get over your hatred of Retro and hatred over the DKC games, the game becomes a lot better.

[etiolate]

Anyone try the two player?

[Himu]

Get retro on Zelda pls

[TakingBackSunday]

good god this is horrible

wow, fucking no.  this opinion is bad and you should feel bad

[Van Cruncheon]

no, this is a legitimately awful platformer. this makes epic yarn look awesome

[Oblivion]

Is this better or worse than the original DKC games?

[Van Cruncheon]

i never played 2 or 3, and it is better than the first dkc, which was wretched. this is slightly less than wretched. this is charmless, perfunctory platforming of the most early 16-bit variety

[EmCeeGrammar]

i never played 2 or 3, and it is better than the first dkc, which was wretched. this is slightly less than wretched. this is charmless, perfunctory platforming of the most early 16-bit variety

You're not really stating any specific problems. That would be a good idea.

[TakingBackSunday]

Epic Yarn was terrible, I can't believe you're actually trying to argue this game is worse than that.  drinky is usually okay with his weird opinions but this is just fucking wrong, absolutely wrong.  This game controls very well, has a challenge not seen in nintendo platformers since the super nintendo, and has wonderfully designed terrain and courses.  If you come back with a "shaking wiimote sucks" defense I'm going to electrocute myself and all those around me.

[EmCeeGrammar]

So I looked up "perfunctory". I don't see how this game is perfunctory as far as platformers go.  There's a huge attention to detail and care paid to the animations and environments. Were you expecting some gimmick?

[Raban]

Get retro on Zelda pls

First time in a long time that I strongly agree with Himu. Give Zelda to Retro like fucking yesterday.

[Van Cruncheon]

So I looked up "perfunctory". I don't see how this game is perfunctory as far as platformers go.  There's a huge attention to detail and care paid to the animations and environments. Were you expecting some gimmick?

i was expecting actual technique and interesting environment interactivity of the sort of i have come to expect post yoshi's island. i expect the sort of mechanical ingenuity at LEAST of a level seen in kirby's epic yarn or the average pc indie platformer

this is tame, bland hop-and-bop with hateful characters and boring levels

[Van Cruncheon]

it's still better than gt5

[demi]

It's okay... after seeing the O in the very first level hovering above a death gap I knew it was only going to get worse from here. So I went back to Arc Rise Fantasia while I had my Wii on instead. Diddy's jetpack is 5 degrees of useless.

The game doesnt tell you anything either. I had no idea you could ground pound the yellow pods, among other things. At least you can throw away the nunchuk. Waggle is of course, unnecessary and tacked on. Would have been just fine with regular Gamecube pad.

[Third]

This might be the best 2d platformer this gen. It toally annihilates NSMBwii.
Forget shitty games like Red Dead Redemption or Vanquish, this is a true GOTY contender.

[TakingBackSunday]

It's okay... after seeing the O in the very first level hovering above a death gap I knew it was only going to get worse from here. So I went back to Arc Rise Fantasia while I had my Wii on instead. Diddy's jetpack is 5 degrees of useless.

The game doesnt tell you anything either. I had no idea you could ground pound the yellow pods, among other things. At least you can throw away the nunchuk. Waggle is of course, unnecessary and tacked on. Would have been just fine with regular Gamecube pad.

uh, the game does tell you.  the first level is entirely a tutorial level.  everytime you come up to something you can interact with, a pop-up image telling you want to do comes up.

[Third]

Yeah, that little pig tells you what to do. I wonder what demi was doing when that little piggy showed up.

[cool breeze]

The bigger question is what isn't?

Donkey Kong Country

[Beezy]

This might be the best 2d platformer this gen.

Super Meat Boy
Splosion Man

[TakingBackSunday]

Super Meat Boy is zzzz

[Beezy]

if you suck maybe

[Himu]

This might be the best 2d platformer this gen. It toally annihilates NSMBwii.

Bionic Commando: Rearmed.

[TakingBackSunday]

boothisman

[Darunia]

The fifth world is amazing from start to finish. So good. Game gets noticeably harder. World 4's a bit too trial and error-ish, but I'm enjoying the game so much as a whole that I'll just let these stages pass. I could never play any of the other DKC games for longer than 2 hours, yet this is addictive as hell. Retro

[Himu]

darunia

where'd you disappear to?!

[Third]

This might be the best 2d platformer this gen.

Super Meat Boy
Splosion Man

Overrated games. Especially Super Meh Boy.

DCKR

[Darunia]

darunia

where'd you disappear to?!

i was kinda done with games/boards for about a year

[Himu]

You didn't play a game for a year?

[EmCeeGrammar]

You didn't play a game for a year?

It's very possible when you have responsibilities.

[TakingBackSunday]

nuh uh

[Himu]

I didn't say it was impossible. Just shocked.

[TakingBackSunday]

Seriously though, this game is sick.  I just beat the second world, and the Tidal Wave level...omg

[EmCeeGrammar]

I didn't say it was impossible. Just shocked.

I had a huuuuuuuuge hiatus between majora's mask and  ... viewtiful joe?  So that was 3-4 years without games. Although I might've cheated with an online pokemon simulator.

[Rman]

This kills the SNES DKC games, but that isn't a huge achievement.

But in all honesty, other than the forced waggle, which I don't get at all, it's pretty fun platforming. 

Retro>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rare.

[Third]

Seriously though, this game is sick.  I just beat the second world, and the Tidal Wave level...omg

Yeah that was a great level. Just finished the beach world

The only thing I don't like (like Rman mentioned) are the motion controls. They really feel tacked on.

[Darunia]

You didn't play a game for a year?

Very little. Was burned out on them. Then it's best to just stop and see if the itch returns. It did.

Also do not like the motion controls. It's okay for the stomp, but rolling needed a button.

[tiesto]

Played through the first world last nite. Game looks amazing graphically (especially the sunset level), level designs are much more clever than Rare's so far. Don't like the motion controls, it seems like you need to shake really hard for them to work. I never use the roll, since it seems every time I try to use it, it doesn't trigger. Other complaint is so far, most of the music seems like remixes of DKC's music... not much in the way of originality. Still so far, it's better than Rare's DKC games and it's much better than Retro's Metroid Prime games.

[Beezy]

This might be the best 2d platformer this gen.

Super Meat Boy
Splosion Man

Overrated games. Especially Super Meh Boy.

DCKR

Overrated because they're not on PSN I assume. You can at least properly abbreviate the title of the game that you're praising.

[TakingBackSunday]

there's a level that has music that sounds like some metroid prime 2 levels.  I thought that was cool.

[magus]

i gave this a spin,personaly after finishing the first world i was coming here with more or less the same mehtastic opinion of tiesto but world 2 gave me a better opinion of the game

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giant octopus level!

[close]

world 3 was worse than 2 but better than 1
i don't think the game is as hard as the various reviews claim,at world 4 i already have stashed around 40 lives and while i do die occasionaly,i don't think barring a single exception there was a single segments where i died more than twice
so yea,it's better than the last nintendo game that got released,tough i guess that's not saying much...

best level i played so far it's this one,in fact this level was awesome,i wish the whole game was like this
[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

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i should have said the game sucked just to piss off brandnew

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[Raban]

That looks awesome, but when he hit the spikes and didn't die = smh.

[Oblivion]

Having Retro do a real Zelda (2D or 3D) is one of the worst ideas ever. I have my issues with Aonuma, but I trust him waaaaay more with Zelda than Retro. None of Nintendo's top-tier games should be sent to other developers. Even if they happen to be within Nintendo.

Now if Retro wants to do Starfox, or Kid Icarus? Who cares.

[demi]

I just dont see any diff between this and RAre's games... jut call it DKC4 and be none the wiser

[EmCeeGrammar]

This is more like DKC 5. Jungle Beat was similar enough to be DKC 4, although the combo system was a big differentiator. How many DK land games were there?

[MCD]

Too colorful and kiddy, missing the moody theme from RARE.

7/10 Good effort for a copy pasta.

[Beezy]

Too colorful and kiddy, missing the moody theme from RARE.

7/10 Good effort for a copy pasta.

Junpei worked on this?

[Oblivion]

Finally played a little bit. Beat the first world only, but game is pretty dang fun so far.

[Himu]

Having Retro do a real Zelda (2D or 3D) is one of the worst ideas ever. I have my issues with Aonuma, but I trust him waaaaay more with Zelda than Retro. None of Nintendo's top-tier games should be sent to other developers. Even if they happen to be within Nintendo.

Now if Retro wants to do Starfox, or Kid Icarus? Who cares.

Rare made Metroid awesome with Metroid Prime. Why not?

[Van Cruncheon]

Having Retro do a real Zelda (2D or 3D) is one of the worst ideas ever. I have my issues with Aonuma, but I trust him waaaaay more with Zelda than Retro. None of Nintendo's top-tier games should be sent to other developers. Even if they happen to be within Nintendo.

Now if Retro wants to do Starfox, or Kid Icarus? Who cares.

Rare made Metroid awesome with Metroid Prime. Why not?

this is like saying avril lavigne made punk awesome

gtfo

[Himu]

Metroid Prime rocks, though. Great boss fights, great level design, great atmosphere. I don't see how anyone can say they'd be a good match for Metroid but not for Zelda seeing as how Metroid and Zelda are practically the same genre.