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[The Sceneman]

Is there any way to stop being adversely affected by these things?

I just attempted another no-death run in Alan Wake: The Signal, for my final achievement. Fell off a fucking cliff  I am so sick of Alan Wake. But I want to play it again, to try for the achievement.

Doritos Crash Course is kinda stinky but Im playing that thing anyway for the points.

I'm farming bullshit rare items in NieR, for weapon upgrades. Not because I want to, it's because theres cheevos attached to it.

I'm fucking 25 years old and endlessly chasing these bullshit points. I mean achievements are good, but when your gaming day consists of grindan and frustration rather than fun? Like fuck it. All my friends laugh at me for being a cheevo whore.

[Bebpo]

Play Wii games.

[The Sceneman]

I do have SMG2 and NMH2 waiting for me to finish them... but then I'm like bu bu bu no cheevs whats the point?

Time to hand in my gamer card  I seem to have lost what made me love games in the first place.

[AdmiralViscen]

It is impossible

[The Sceneman]

It's gonna be really hard for me to wean myself off this shit, I mean I have 50 completed games on my card, I cant stop now?!

[Bocsius]

It's not impossible, I used to bullseye womprats in my T-16 back home, and they didn't come with achievements.

[demi]

Why would achievements concern you? If Nier was on the PS2, you or anyone else would be doing the same thing without the lure of achievements. This is of course considered "normal" and not attached to a stigma that achievements have brought upon the uninformed.

Short answer: Continue doing what you do, there is nothing else worth giving up what you enjoy for. Especially the Wii.

[The Sceneman]

I remember when I speed-ran Resident Evil 2 when I was 12, 7 times in a row, to unlock the Tofu Scenario. Just because I love the game so much. No achievements.

[demi]

I remember when I speed-ran Resident Evil 2, 7 times in a row to unlock the Tofu Scenario. Just because I love the game so much. No achievements.

Nailed it. Just what I posted.

[AdmiralViscen]

Chasing cheevs gives you more for your dollar

[The Sceneman]

thanks guys, I now see the light again.

Achievements

They do give you much more playtime out of game, thats for sure.

I guess as a kid I was always a completionist, I would always try and max out every game I had in the PS1 days. Things always seem better and more magical when you look back, but I enjoy gaming now just as much as a did back then I'm sure.

[AdmiralViscen]

The only shit that pisses me off is stuff like the new Reach ones. Get a double kill from beyond the grave? Fuck that shit. But in cases like that I usually just ignore the cheevs. I'm happy to get over half of what is available in a game, and I only go beyond if it seems like it'd be fun or not too much effort.

[demi]

Also quit being a taco, enjoy the vidya, it is a pathetic hobby and pussy repellant and you should revel in that.

[The Sceneman]

The only shit that pisses me off is stuff like the new Reach ones. Get a double kill from beyond the grave? Fuck that shit. But in cases like that I usually just ignore the cheevs. I'm happy to get over half of what is available in a game, and I only go beyond if it seems like it'd be fun or not too much effort.

yeah I've boycotted the map pack lol, those cheevs are shockingly designed.

[demi]

* At least it's not WoW

[demi]

Any mature adult has no time to juggle multiple consoles as it is. Stick to one and you will be better for it.

[AdmiralViscen]

I have 38000 gamerscore and like uh level 1 trophies. Whatever that is

[The Sceneman]

57600G here

[demi]

17100G here. Still fresh and starting out

[Bocsius]

6510

[Robo]

I've put hundreds and hundreds of hours into SSF4 and only have about a third of the points. 

[Raban]

I don't really care about achievements. It's neat that they're there, but it's not a positive or negative thing. I only want to 1000 the games that I would've otherwise 100%'d anyways.

I still wanna join the small group of Boreans to 200/200 BC:R. I will do it someday, I swear.

[Trent Dole]

13360 here. The only things I've completed are the two Orochi games and Castlevania HD.  

[Stoney Mason]

When you're on your death bed the only achievement score you will be concerned with his how many friends you scored or how many hot bitches you fucked.

Real Talk.



I like achievements. When I play on systems that don't have them in an integrated fashion like the PC or the Wii, I always feel like something is missing. Like it almost doesn't count or something which is weird and doesn't make sense but that's honestly how I feel. That being said I almost never especially go out of my way to get them. They are a nice bonus but not the main course.

I know somebody I play Black Ops with on Live who played the campaign at hardened and was telling me how frustrated he was at how difficult the game was as he was trying to play through. The only reason he played on hardened was because that is what I played on I think. He said he wasn't having any fun because it was so hard. So I told him to bump down the difficulty to normal. But then he was like no way, I'd miss out on the hardened achievements.

Well that's weird to me. Because why would you suffer and hamper your actual enjoyment of the experience by playing on a level that is overly frustrating for you. But I know a lot of "hardcore" gamers like him where achievements have screwed up their priorities on how to enjoy games.  

[The Sceneman]

I don't really care about achievements. It's neat that they're there, but it's not a positive or negative thing. I only want to 1000 the games that I would've otherwise 100%'d anyways.

I still wanna join the small group of Boreans to 200/200 BC:R. I will do it someday, I swear.

me, demi and iconoclast afaik. Trying to beat that shit on Super Hard will make you shit your pants

[demi]

Scenster is lagging behind... needs to 1000 Vanquish - getting hung up on Alan Wake :limp

[EmCeeGrammar]

Couldn't you just logically explain to yourself that you're doing arbitrary things to accumulate gamerscore which has no benefit whatsoever?  If you said you were doing it for avatar costumes I could understand the feedback loop you are going through.  Play games in ways that are enjoyable to  you. It's like letting the terrorists win otherwise.

[Raban]

I don't really care about achievements. It's neat that they're there, but it's not a positive or negative thing. I only want to 1000 the games that I would've otherwise 100%'d anyways.

I still wanna join the small group of Boreans to 200/200 BC:R. I will do it someday, I swear.

me, demi and iconoclast afaik. Trying to beat that shit on Super Hard will make you shit your pants

I'm gonna dedicate a fat chunk of time to it one of these days. All the cheevos seem really fun and after finally playing it, I think Bionic Commando is the greatest 2D platformer of all time.

[Beezy]

The only shit that pisses me off is stuff like the new Reach ones. Get a double kill from beyond the grave? Fuck that shit. But in cases like that I usually just ignore the cheevs. I'm happy to get over half of what is available in a game, and I only go beyond if it seems like it'd be fun or not too much effort.

Same here. I have over 800 in a couple of games, but I can't bother going for the last few achievements because they're time consuming or just fucking ridiculous.

Couldn't you just logically explain to yourself that you're doing arbitrary things to accumulate gamerscore which has no benefit whatsoever?

No. No one really understands until they own a 360. I never thought that I'd fall into the achievement trap.

[Herr Mafflard]

Achievements don't just give you a sense of accomplishment, they are also recorded for everyone else to see too. So it's not just you and your dog who knows you fought every secret boss in final fantasy or whatever.  It's also sorta like a high score leaderboard, but for every game combined. I don't think it's suprising at all that people get hooked on them. 

[magus]

get star ocean 4

also
http://www.cracked.com/article_18907_the-5-hardest-most-pointless-world-warcraft-achievements.html

[chronovore]

It's a double-edged sword. A year ago I saw Sho Nuff's card had 40K, and I thought "That man plays way too many games," but here I am closing in on 40K now. 

When I see someone with substantially more Gamerscore than I have, especially if they've been on XBL less time than I have, it makes me worry that they're a weirdo. That they're MORE of an obsessive freak than I am.

If you want to wean yourself of Achievements, start buying games for the PS3. Trophies are truly meaningless when you start getting them. The trouble is you've "invested" yourself in Gamescore and it's preventing you from not only playing your Wii games, but from even really enjoying the 360 games you're playing. Someday soon you'll hit bottom, you'll have a realization that it's a waste, and you'll fire up the Wii or PS3, of nail some chick, or go for a swim in the ocean, and you'll reset your perspective. That's what happened with me during Assassin's Creed 1, and while I still like 'cheevs, I'm not so hung up on them anymore.

[iconoclast]

Just forget about all the grinding, collecting, farming, etc achievements and only focus on the challenging ones. When achievements are actually achievements, that is when the system is at its best. Shitty achievements that you get for killing 1000000000000 people in an online game, getting 999x of every item in an RPG, or collecting 500 useless pieces of junk are the cancer in the system.

[Beezy]

Just forget about all the grinding, collecting, farming, etc achievements and only focus on the challenging ones. When achievements are actually achievements, that is when the system is at its best. Shitty achievements that you get for killing 1000000000000 people in an online game, getting 999x of every item in an RPG, or collecting 500 useless pieces of junk are the cancer in the system.

You and demi still do these though. Why?

[demi]

Just forget about all the grinding, collecting, farming, etc achievements and only focus on the challenging ones. When achievements are actually achievements, that is when the system is at its best. Shitty achievements that you get for killing 1000000000000 people in an online game, getting 999x of every item in an RPG, or collecting 500 useless pieces of junk are the cancer in the system.

You and demi still do these though. Why?

Because we are on a higher plane... we are just offering sage advice to those who are becoming ONE OF US ONE OF US ONE OF US

[iconoclast]

I like to complete as much as I can as long as it doesn't take forever, so I guess it's OCD. But even I have my limits. I will never get the 'play 10,000 online matches' achievement in Armored Core for Answer, for example. That's just going overboard.

[demi]

Yeah I didnt do those for Riddick. I gave up on MOH cause 2 hours for each mode was way more than I could stomach. 15 minutes was pushing it.

[demi]

J-DEVS still dont have the plot on achievements, haha. Some have some good ones... rarely.

[iconoclast]

10,000 online matches? You have to be shitting me.

Actually I just looked at that achievement, and turns out, it's for winning 10,000 online matches.

[Bebpo]

It's a double-edged sword. A year ago I saw Sho Nuff's card had 40K, and I thought "That man plays way too many games," but here I am closing in on 40K now. 

When I see someone with substantially more Gamerscore than I have, especially if they've been on XBL less time than I have, it makes me worry that they're a weirdo. That they're MORE of an obsessive freak than I am.

If you want to wean yourself of Achievements, start buying games for the PS3. Trophies are truly meaningless when you start getting them. The trouble is you've "invested" yourself in Gamescore and it's preventing you from not only playing your Wii games, but from even really enjoying the 360 games you're playing. Someday soon you'll hit bottom, you'll have a realization that it's a waste, and you'll fire up the Wii or PS3, of nail some chick, or go for a swim in the ocean, and you'll reset your perspective. That's what happened with me during Assassin's Creed 1, and while I still like 'cheevs, I'm not so hung up on them anymore.

Eh, Trophies are 100% the same to me as X360 achievements.  My trophy level is exactly the same as my gamerscore.  But really when I look at someone else's gamercard I never even look at their gamerscore/trophy level.  I don't care about some meaningless number.  I do the same thing on PS3/X360, I look at my friends who are playing/have played the game I'm currently playing and I see what achievements/trophies they got and it gives some motivation to get those ones or more than them.

[iconoclast]

PS3 trophies are like generic brand soda. Just a cheap knockoff that doesn't taste nearly as good.

[demi]

Nailed it.

[Mr. Gundam]

It's a double-edged sword. A year ago I saw Sho Nuff's card had 40K, and I thought "That man plays way too many games," but here I am closing in on 40K now. 

When I see someone with substantially more Gamerscore than I have, especially if they've been on XBL less time than I have, it makes me worry that they're a weirdo. That they're MORE of an obsessive freak than I am.

If you want to wean yourself of Achievements, start buying games for the PS3. Trophies are truly meaningless when you start getting them. The trouble is you've "invested" yourself in Gamescore and it's preventing you from not only playing your Wii games, but from even really enjoying the 360 games you're playing. Someday soon you'll hit bottom, you'll have a realization that it's a waste, and you'll fire up the Wii or PS3, of nail some chick, or go for a swim in the ocean, and you'll reset your perspective. That's what happened with me during Assassin's Creed 1, and while I still like 'cheevs, I'm not so hung up on them anymore.

Eh, Trophies are 100% the same to me as X360 achievements.  My trophy level is exactly the same as my gamerscore.  But really when I look at someone else's gamercard I never even look at their gamerscore/trophy level.  I don't care about some meaningless number.  I do the same thing on PS3/X360, I look at my friends who are playing/have played the game I'm currently playing and I see what achievements/trophies they got and it gives some motivation to get those ones or more than them.

I don't try to compete with people and trophies, but it is cool to go through and see what games they've played.

[Smooth Groove]

I gave up on cheevs after the 1st year when my 360 wasn't online for much of my playtime which somehow cost me to lose several thousand pts. 

[naff]

I gave up on cheevs after the first few months of owning an Xbox and being burned of a few thousand because of gtag recovery shenanigans (looks like I played the second half of Lost Odyssey and AC2 ), I realised real men would replay the games for the cheevs, I realised I was not one of these men. I am way to casual and platform agnostic to care about that stuff.

[chronovore]

It's a double-edged sword. A year ago I saw Sho Nuff's card had 40K, and I thought "That man plays way too many games," but here I am closing in on 40K now. 

When I see someone with substantially more Gamerscore than I have, especially if they've been on XBL less time than I have, it makes me worry that they're a weirdo. That they're MORE of an obsessive freak than I am.

If you want to wean yourself of Achievements, start buying games for the PS3. Trophies are truly meaningless when you start getting them. The trouble is you've "invested" yourself in Gamescore and it's preventing you from not only playing your Wii games, but from even really enjoying the 360 games you're playing. Someday soon you'll hit bottom, you'll have a realization that it's a waste, and you'll fire up the Wii or PS3, of nail some chick, or go for a swim in the ocean, and you'll reset your perspective. That's what happened with me during Assassin's Creed 1, and while I still like 'cheevs, I'm not so hung up on them anymore.

überLOL at myself and "being over" Achievements.

My last night in California, after finishing Castle Crashers for the first time ever, I fired up Dishwasher again just to get an 11-point Achievement which had eluded me for the entire two-weeks of my vacation. I'd only fired up that game again because I'd previously only had a total of 10 GS in it, and thought I'd just easily get some more while I could. Having that damned game fire off OCD-triggering numbers in my GamerScore, and I was suddenly obsessed with not letting it win. Instead of playing a number of other things, I kept hammering on The Black Book Achievement.

When it looked like I finally was going to clear the Achievement, I was experiencing some of the most intense adrenalin nausea in 20 years. I was so worried that I'd blow it and have to try again, after having tried it maybe 60 times. But it unlocked, and I was relieved... and realized that I was actually angry that my own brain couldn't be leashed enough to not care about this stupid, non-divisible-by-five GamerScore problem.

None of this even begins to deal with the hoops I'd been jumping through for Doritos Crash Course, and the bug which kills the two hardest 'cheevs for gamers who have purchased their DLC.



edit: teh grammerz

[Howard Alan Treesong]

I am really glad to be totally immune to Achievements, probably for the same reason I don't enjoy gambling. IT'S A SUCKER'S GAME.

[demi]

But you can come out in the positive with gambling, Achievements gets you nothing, no matter the outcome.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

true, but over enough time, both gambling and achievements are guaranteed to result in loss and sorrow

[cool breeze]

I wonder if achievement fiends will find the new ideas exciting or offputting.  The Day One achievements, adding new achievements, etc.

The holiday themed achievements on steam are neat, but it sort of ruins the idea that you can 'complete' the set. 

[demi]

From what I glanced at, some are really turned off by it. Achievements are slowly losing their high for some people.

I used to be really bad, renting everything and anything.

[mjemirzian]

I might have been more interested in achievements if they were more than the usual collect em' ups and stat grinding.

[brob]

As a discrete challenge mode it is great imo

it's not often used that way tho

[chronovore]

I am really glad to be totally immune to Achievements, probably for the same reason I don't enjoy gambling. IT'S A SUCKER'S GAME.

Aren't you also totally immune to your Xbox, or are you referring to Trophies (which also, oddly, have no pull on me)?

[The Sceneman]

In my opinion people that are averse to achievements are just trying to cope with my master swag gamerscore. They know they'll never be on my level. These are diaper babies who cant play games on hard and don't have the fortitude to collect pointless collectibles for hours.

I will admit, when I read about the "Day 1" achievement for Xbox One, I popped a boner

[demi]

I know you arent speaking like I'm not here

[chronovore]

Haven't you seen the Star Wars prequels, demi? Obi-Wan always gets a little lippy when Yoda isn't around.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

I am really glad to be totally immune to Achievements, probably for the same reason I don't enjoy gambling. IT'S A SUCKER'S GAME.

Aren't you also totally immune to your Xbox, or are you referring to Trophies (which also, oddly, have no pull on me)?

I am, but Steam Achievements and Blizzard Achievements did nothing for me. Well, I did speed run Diablo III but that gave you a cool title as well as an achievement...plus it was fun!

[Positive Touch]

i didnt care about steam achievements until big picture mode changed the way theyre displayed. something about having that big, legible bubble that makes it so much better than a tiny little box squeezed into the corner.

[The Sceneman]

I want free achievements