God dammit Kosma, you really aren't getting it.
It's as if we are talking about two different things!
My problem is not with the statistics, it's how you are using them.
Oh wait, saying Morrocans are more overrepresented in crime figures is bigoted?
No, I also said that men are overrepresented in crimes, doesn't make me a bigot unless I use this to justify bigoted views.
The fallacy that you are committing is called the ecological fallacy:
Stereotypes, which assume that groups are homogeneous, are one form of ecological fallacy. For example, if a particular group of people are measured to have a lower average IQ than the general population, it is an error to assume that all members of that group have a lower IQ than the general population. In fact, any given individual from that group may have a lower than average IQ, average IQ, or above average IQ compared to the general population.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecological_fallacyHere is another one:
Most people have an intuitive feel for probability. Therefore, they are stunned when they are presented with the fact that they have a faulty understanding of probability when applied to everyday situations. The fallacy lies in the inability of most people to get beyond the fact that their intuition will sometimes lead them astray.
Example: Joey Homer is a baseball player that normally bats a .320 average. He has produced zero (0) base hits in his past 20 at-bats. Joey is due for a hit! He will probably get multiple hits today.
Fallacy: The notion of the next few samples conforming to the average is faulty thinking. Any small random sample will be just that: random. Joey may get 4 hits today or he may not get any. Over the course of a whole season, he will produce 320 hits for every 1000 at-bats. But any 4 or 5 samples of his hitting will not necessarily conform to the average since that is such a small sample size.
http://www.darrelraines.com/html/stats.phpBasically, if men commit 90% of the crimes in our society. You can't expect me to be committing 90% more crime than a random girl.
In this case, if the guys in the video were from Morocco, and people from Morocco are over represented in crime. You can't expect those guys to be more guilty simply because they are from Morocco.
It is dehumanizing to treat individuals differently because of what group they belong to. It denies free will and individual responsibility as if we are nothing more than the group we belong to.
You can't use such group statistics to project them on individuals within that group.
Group statistics =/= Individual statistics.
The location that statistics where made seems your no.1 concern. Talk about stuck in the detail and missing the big picture.
Read some more:
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/biased-sample.htmlhttp://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/hasty-generalization.htmlhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causationhttp://www.ma.utexas.edu/users/mks/statmistakes/Types.htmlCalling me a racist gtfo hippies. I'm a realist.
You are just an idiot, that's what you are.
If you only understand what you are posting we wouldn't be discussing this now.
