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Shooting games thread
« on: January 22, 2011, 03:01:10 AM »
There seem to be quite a few of us who seem to still prefer these games, so why not make a thread for all discussion?  This thread can be for anything related to shooters!  Whether it be the latest news, accomplishments, obtained games, talking about retro games, events, merchandise, whatever!  Sure, these games may not have the glorious graphics or hold-your-hand gameplay of the current popular titles like CALL OF DUTY or some other mainstream trash, but this is made up by having games that actually require skill!

Anyway, let's start by talking about the latest news!

-Eschatos has a new trailer!

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This game actually looks really good and is exactly a "retro-style" game updated and done right.  It also comes with the old Wonderswan games, which is totally awesome.  It's also confirmed to be region free!  Too bad no one will care about it and and will likely be forgotten by those who keep bitching about how there's no selection and originality outside of Cave games.

-Eschatos is also being released on the same day as Otomedius Excellent!  Fantastic timing, there.  It'll be Shooting Love vs. DOJBLEX all over again!

-Speaking of which, DOJBLEX has now been patched!  Now you n00bz who have bitched and refused to play the title (despite the glitches being so minor that I can guarantee that you'd never have encountered them) can keep sucking at the game, this time without the excuse of blaming the bugs!  Good thing everyone's sworn off 5pb while loving those Cave ports which are full of bugs and poor decisions!

-Bullet Soul is also on the horizon, I played it at TGS and thought it was pretty cool.  I love the Star Solider-style hidden bonuses.

-Trouble Witches is on track for an XBLA release in the near future, although this is being done by SNK and we all know how long it takes for them for their shit to come on LIVE.

-Daifukkatsu Black Label and Pink Sweets/Muchi Muchi Port pack coming up next month.  I'm personally a fan of Pink Sweets so I'm looking forward to it.  I'm still hoping for a port of Ibara Kuro, my personal favorite Cave game.

-Cave also has some event going on next month where they'll announce shit and have some events.  I went to the shooting festa last year and enjoyed myself, so there's a very good chance I'll check this out.  Anyone in Tokyo also interested in joining?  Heh, there's gonna be a job recruitment area too!

2011 looks like it's gonna be a good year for shooting fans!

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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2011, 03:48:20 AM »
Wow, I was just thinking about making a thread like this. Good work.

I've been playing some Dai Ou Jou Black Label since the patch came out. Game's amazing. I'm no good at it (40 million up to the end of 1-4 with A-E has been my best run) but I'm really enjoying learning everything and progressing inch by inch. I'm even starting to enjoy chaining! This game's like 10x better than Daifukkatsu.

Eschatos is looking good. It seems they really put some effort into the different difficulty modes, and the odd camera angles for some battles should be interesting. Judgment Silversword and Cardinal Sins look good too; never got a chance to play either of them. I probably won't buy it right away (no money), but I'll get it some day for sure.

Bullet Soul looks okay, but I'm not too sure about it yet. I don't like how every enemy cancels their bullets once they're destroyed. I'll wait for impressions and reviews before I decide to blow $80 on it.

I'll be buying Trouble Witches, Strania, and Radiant Silvergun once they're released as well. So many god damn shooters, I love it.

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Re: Shooting games thread
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2011, 06:46:29 AM »
Playing DOJ BL
> connect my best chain ever on stage 1
> die to the first boss
> connect my best chain ever on stage 2
> die to the second boss
> lose the rest of my lives on stage 3 before I even get to the boss

ffffffffuuuuuuuuu

I hate it when I get my best score on a retardedly awful run where I die non-stop to shit I always avoid.
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Re: Shooting games thread
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2011, 10:35:16 PM »
I'm pretty excited for Muchi Pork. I got a feeling that it's going to be my favorite Yagawa game by a mile. I'm not too interested in Pink Sweets though, so if I wind up not liking it, no biggie.

Still not sure if I want Daifukkatsu Black Label either... The more I play DFK 1.5, the less I like it. But the Ketsui arrange mode looks amazing. Decisions decisions...
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Re: Shooting games thread
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2011, 03:01:05 AM »
I am so down for this thread.  I really don't have anything particularly relevant to contribute at this moment though.  I did pick up a PS1 copy of In The Hunt, and its dang cool, but no new news to report on outside of 15 year old shooters.

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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2011, 03:25:39 AM »
Strike Witches is pretty good imo. It's pretty easy, but the stages are fun, it has some good bullet patterns, like twelve characters to make your team with, and even the scoring is fun. It's not amazing or anything, but it's pretty underrated.
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Re: Shooting games thread
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2011, 02:21:18 AM »
5pb is considering making Bullet Soul region free.
http://njiska.com/2011/01/another-possible-region-free-candidate-bullet-soul/

If you are interested, send them an email and let them know.
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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2011, 02:48:57 AM »
Yeah, there's been a few region free games lately.

Eschatos
Muchi Muchi Pork & Pink Sweets
Virtual-On Force
and now maybe Bullet Soul

Pretty cool.
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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2011, 03:57:29 AM »
Strike Witches is trash, it's worse than Omega Five.  How one can like that game and not DFK is beyond me.

I am getting all of these games.
I just can't decide whether to get DFK Black Label as retail or download. I kind of want the arrange stuff, but the difference in price is ridiculous, esp. since there's no CD pack-in or anything.

I dunno if you've played it in the arcades, but DFKBL is almost a completely different game.  New music, new mechanics, new rank system, it's a vastly different experience.  I'm likely going to go for the disc version.  I do like the BL version a bit more than the normal game, it's bloody exhilarating getting into full RED mode and making your way through all the shit on the screen.

You guys also check out the LIVE Indie Games scene?  Quite a few good games in there as well!

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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2011, 04:31:36 AM »
Strike Witches > Otomedius G > Omega Five

I don't think Strike Witches is better than DFK though. It has more to do with expectations. I went into DFK expecting something as good as DDP and DOJ. It's not. It's not a bad game either, but it's just not satisfying to play for survival and the scoring system somehow manages to be less fun than DDP and DOJ. It's just disappointing... especially when an arrange mode is better than the main game.

I had no expectations for Strike Witches and I was pleasantly surprised to see that it's pretty decent. Same with Otomedius, actually.
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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2011, 04:48:40 AM »
Anyone have Radirgy Massive for the 360?  I'm actually a fan of the Radirgy series and have been meaning to pick the game up, but it came out at such a bad time that I haven't really had time to buy and play it.  I do plan on getting it eventually.

Yeah, it's just that the download version is 1500 yen vs 4500 yen for the disc.
Pretty massive difference...

I love the XBLIG stuff.
I get all the radiangames stuff out of habit now, but there's been some really interesting stuff on there outside of that. Leave Home, Decimation X, Shoot 1UP, and that crazy colourful one I forget the name of now. Any others you can recommend?

I personally liked Unrevolutionary although it's a twinstick shooter.  Prismatic Solid is probably the "colorful" one you're talking about.  Revolver 360 is also pretty good.  I enjoyed Vorpal enough to play through a few times.  I'm friends with the guy who made Tester Phase One, which isn't anything spectacular but is a solid game and worth a buck.  I'm sure there are lots of other ones out there which I can't remember.

Strike Witches > Otomedius G > Omega Five

I don't think Strike Witches is better than DFK though. It has more to do with expectations. I went into DFK expecting something as good as DDP and DOJ. It's not. It's not a bad game either, but it's just not satisfying to play for survival and the scoring system somehow manages to be less fun than DDP and DOJ. It's just disappointing... especially when an arrange mode is better than the main game.

I had no expectations for Strike Witches and I was pleasantly surprised to see that it's pretty decent. Same with Otomedius, actually.

Play DFK with Strong style!  It's the true man's road to playing!  Power style is more or less just an easier mode, unless your goal is the ura 2-ALL.

I definitely think Strike Witches is worse than Otomedius, but I suppose it's a matter of taste.  I've found that most people who dislike Otomedius don't really understand the correct way to play it since arcade and gorgeous modes are meant to be played very differently.

I suppose that Strike Witches isn't a worthless waste like it could have been, but it's still a waste of time to play it when there are much, much better games available.  I suppose that if it had been released as a 2500yen budget title then it would have been a different story, but no way in hell was that thing worth full price.

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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2011, 05:22:10 AM »
I think you got strong and power mixed up, but yeah. Strong makes the game waaaaay too easy, and power makes the game really hard with its lack of bombs. But what really I don't like about power is that you have to rely on the hyper to cancel patterns you'd have no hope of dodging. And if your hyper rank gets too high... gg. I just don't like it when games focus too much on bullet canceling. Mushi Futari hits a pretty good balance, but anything more than that is too much for me.
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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2011, 05:26:58 AM »
That's understandable, DFK is definitely a different beast.  I like the juggling act that you need to do for Power style, you don't really need bombs since it's so easy to refill your hyper meter.  You can also get some crazy scores if you keep yourself in normal mode while in hyper.

Still, that's why the arranges exist!  All of the arranges play like vastly different games.  I'm personally a big fan of 1.51!

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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2011, 08:15:27 AM »
Yeah, it's just that the download version is 1500 yen vs 4500 yen for the disc.
Pretty massive difference...

I love the XBLIG stuff.
I get all the radiangames stuff out of habit now, but there's been some really interesting stuff on there outside of that. Leave Home, Decimation X, Shoot 1UP, and that crazy colourful one I forget the name of now. Any others you can recommend?
You're thinking of Score Rush, my favorite so far.

Revolver360 and Vorpal are really good. I like Hypership Out of Control also.

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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2011, 08:32:47 AM »
Gah, like five times now I've made it the stage 4 mid-boss in DOJ BL, destroyed the two cannons on the side, and lose my last life right when I'm about kill him and get the 1up. And to make matters worse, I would surely get the 50million extend after playing a little further, since I always have 45-48m by that point. So annoying. :maf

And hoooooly shit the training mode in the DOJ BLEX port is completely worthless garbage. I guess I need to load up MAME and create some savestates in order to really practice anything.
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« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2011, 09:20:19 AM »
Yeah, it's just that the download version is 1500 yen vs 4500 yen for the disc.
Pretty massive difference...

I love the XBLIG stuff.
I get all the radiangames stuff out of habit now, but there's been some really interesting stuff on there outside of that. Leave Home, Decimation X, Shoot 1UP, and that crazy colourful one I forget the name of now. Any others you can recommend?

:bow radiangames :bow2

Loved Shoot 1UP, there's also Vorpal and Score Rush to try. I love playing the indie games, even if it's a bit oversaturated with twinsticks.
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« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2011, 10:06:09 AM »
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Muchi Muchi Pork & Pink Sweets

Is this some sort of loose translation? If I was asked what kind of game this was judging solely by the name, I'd guess its a cooking game on the DS.
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« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2011, 10:50:07 AM »
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Muchi Muchi Pork & Pink Sweets

Is this some sort of loose translation? If I was asked what kind of game this was judging solely by the name, I'd guess its a cooking game on the DS.

Nope, both Muchi Muchi Pork and Pink Sweets (they are 2 different games, but are packed together for their forthcoming 360 release) are Cave bullet-hell games.

Prismatic Solid is a pretty great game on the Indies, too. Amazing soundtrack that really reminds you of 32bit shmups.
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« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2011, 11:29:15 AM »
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« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2011, 08:08:09 AM »
There's a good post here pimping Crimzon Clover better than I ever could: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=25606756&postcount=604

Check it out if you haven't guys. It's really awesome and it's better than Cave's latest stuff.
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« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2011, 01:26:18 AM »
So the second DFK patch that rebalances arrange B and I guess fixes some bugs or whatever is out. You can also earn the Hibachi achievement in Novice mode now, and I believe once you get the achievement you unlock a Hibachi gamerpic.

I think I finally found a suitable replacement for my Ninja Gaiden 2 master ninja pic. :drool

Now all I've gotta do is get to the Ura loop......
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« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2011, 02:17:16 AM »
prefer rail shooters over 2d shooters

pretty much the same shit except in a 3d space but i think rail shooters are just 2000 x cooler and more fun to play
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« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2011, 03:47:06 PM »
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I want this just for the Ketsui arrange, but I'm gonna pass for now. Don't want to blow $50-$60 on a game just for an arrange mode when I'm saving for a new PC.

lol, watching him kill the midboss without hitting the C-shot for the 5x cube made me cringe. HOW CAN YOU RESIST?

I love the arranged soundtrack too. Fits the DFK aesthetic perfectly. Nice contrast to the heavy Ketsui Extra arrange. Best soundtrack ever in three amazing forms :bow
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« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2011, 03:54:17 PM »
I'm getting it mainly just as a Cave collector.  Very very little interest in playing it since I got bored of DDFK after like 1-2 weeks and the price is a total ripoff.  But I need to justify my J360's pricetag with Cave shmups.

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« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2011, 10:45:45 PM »
Well, since I'm apparently the only foreigner in the scene here who actually goes to live shooting events, might as well give you guys some EXCLUSIVE kool updates.

Went to Master Takahashi's all-night Caravan festival last night!  I've always been a fan of Caravan shooters and actually prefer them to the scoring styles of newer games, although I'm sure all you n00bz who only play Cave shit could never appreciate the beauty of classic Hudson shooters!  I wasn't really planning on playing so I didn't bother practicing anything, but I decided to enter Soldier Blade for the hell of it, I played the game quite a bit back in the day but it's been a long time!  Did pretty decently, got 3rd place overall which was enough to get a signed book from Hudson's glory days.  Not bad considering that I'm mad out of practice, and it kind of makes me want to get into Caravan shooters again.  Heh, I guess I'll actually make an effort to practice for 2012's event when it comes up!

They had the world record holder for Soldier Blade and Star Soldier R there, that guy knows his shit.  Didn't compete in the tournament but showed off his stuff for exhibition.

Takahashi seemed really concerned about the Konami buyout.

The scene was pretty cool, lots of hardcore shooting fans who have been playing since back in the day, even had returners who used to compete in the Caravans since the 80s.  Nice group of people, was able to chat with them no problem.  Heh, got a good reaction out of everyone when I went up to do my run, I suppose being the only foreigner there will do that.

On a completely unrelated note, Cave is currently hiring someone for their western SOCIAL GAMES DIVISION!  Yeaaa, looks like they know what their fans really want, shitty iPhone and Facebook games!
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« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2011, 01:03:43 AM »
So I bought the DLC version of DDP DFK BL, then the next day got talking to a friend and ended up ordering the disc version from Amazon :(
Fucking curse my loose wallet.

At least you'll get two sets of achievements out of it (+250 on DFK 1.5 disc and 1000 on DFK BL disc) and the Ketsui arrange. I'll probably buy them both some day.
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« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2011, 06:00:50 PM »
I got black label today, but don't really feel like switching the cables to get the ole j360 working.  Might give it a spin tonight.  I'm guessing I won't even notice the difference between 1.5 & Black Label, so I'll just be playing the Ketsui mode.

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« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2011, 08:40:15 PM »
I ended up playing this for a bit.  At first I was like WTF THIS GAME IS SO MUCH HARDER THAN 1.5 until I read the manual after I stopped playing and saw that the big red gauge in the top-right corner isn't A GOOD THING.  I thought you were supposed to fill it and then you got hyper mode because whenever it was full I tended to have hyper mode.  I also noticed that my ship was WAY STRONGER than 1.5 but the enemy bullets were just ridiculously fast and even the first two stages were ridiculous.

Then I read the manual and saw that filling up that gauge makes the game rank go up and makes everything harder!  And when the gauge is max your hyper meter builds super fast which explains why I always got hyper mode releases when it was maxed.  And that holding RT + A does shot+laser (instead of just laser like 1.5) which builds your rank gauge and does TON O' DAMAGE which explains why bosses were dying so fast and my meter was always building, lol. 

I think I get it now.

I like that if you play the power style you always get the Ura route bosses without having to do anything. 

Ketsui mode is ok.  I kind of wish the scoring was entirely ketsui and not DDFK BL scoring/gameplay + ketsui scoring on top of it.  It just feels thrown on instead of an arrange mode that's totally different like the arranges on the normal games.  It's basically everything that is in black label + you shoot enemies up close to start a chain and then hold laser until the chain ends x repeat.  Ketsui is a wonderful game because THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT.  Here when you have that plus a dozen other DDFK BL things to deal with at the same time it just feels like overload.  Then again maybe it was because I didn't know about the red system at the time and I was playing it at max rank all the time.

The arrange mode music is pretty good but it doesn't really fit at all.  Ketsui music is ok.  Game is still lots of flashing colors.
Seems fun, but DDFK is still probably my least favorite of the cave shmups on X360 so far.

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« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2011, 12:57:42 AM »
To be fair, the scoring in Ketsui is more complicated than it lets on (http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=5123), but yeah the arrange seems like it would've been more fun without having worry about your chain and rank as well. I'll probably pick up DFKBL some time over the next few months.


I've been playing some more DOJ Black Label over the last couple days, and I'm finally making some progress! The run I had just now started out really poorly, but it was my last credit, so I figured I'll just ride it out instead of ragequitting and restarting. Everything started falling apart on stage 2... I died once in the popcorn hallway right after activating my 4 hypers, and then I died again on the boss. Went into stage 3 with only 12 million points and 1 life left, but by some miracle I didn't die again until the stage 4 mid-boss. At least I got the 1up from him, so it wasn't too big a deal. Then I no miss'd the rest of the stage, and made it to stage 5 for the first time. I almost made it to the final boss, but alas, that stage is hard as fuck. I think I would've made it to him if got the 50 million extend, but I only had 47 million points since stages 1 and 2 went poorly. Oh well, gotta keep practicing.

I really want to 1-ALL DOJ BL and Ketsui this year. Both are 10/10 godlike games, if you ask me.
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Re: Shooting games thread
« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2011, 01:09:44 AM »
rumor has it that Muchi Muchi Pink Sweets will be region free, can anyone substantiate this?
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« Reply #31 on: February 08, 2011, 01:17:50 AM »
Yes, Muchi Muchi Pork & Pink Sweets will be region free. Although, IMO, if you want a region free shooter, I'd get Mushihime-sama Futari first. The platinum hits version is only $35 and it's one of the best shooters ever made, and it's in HD.
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« Reply #32 on: February 08, 2011, 01:27:30 AM »
I've been playing some more DOJ Black Label over the last couple days, and I'm finally making some progress! The run I had just now started out really poorly, but it was my last credit, so I figured I'll just ride it out instead of ragequitting and restarting. Everything started falling apart on stage 2... I died once in the popcorn hallway right after activating my 4 hypers, and then I died again on the boss. Went into stage 3 with only 12 million points and 1 life left, but by some miracle I didn't die again until the stage 4 mid-boss. At least I got the 1up from him, so it wasn't too big a deal. Then I no miss'd the rest of the stage, and made it to stage 5 for the first time. I almost made it to the final boss, but alas, that stage is hard as fuck. I think I would've made it to him if got the 50 million extend, but I only had 47 million points since stages 1 and 2 went poorly. Oh well, gotta keep practicing.

I really want to 1-ALL DOJ BL and Ketsui this year. Both are 10/10 godlike games, if you ask me.

What's the difference between DOJ and DOJ BL?

DOJ is still my favorite Cave shmup.  I played the heck out of it on PS2.  DOJ, Espgaluda, Mushi Futari are probably my 3 favorite cave shmups with Ketsui right behind.

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« Reply #33 on: February 08, 2011, 02:05:05 AM »
DOJ BL is easier, basically. Chaining is slightly easier, the hyper meter charges a lot faster, some bullet patterns are slightly different, you can choose a single loop game instead of two loops (which means you fight Hibachi at the end of the first loop), and if you can actually make it to the second loop, you get to keep all of your lives.

It's great update to DOJ. It's been emulated recently, so you can try it out in MAME if you want.

My Cave top 5 is pretty similar as well. I'd rank them like:
1. Ketsui
2. Mushihime-sama Futari Black Label
3. Dodonpachi Dai Ou Jou Black Label
4. Death Smiles
5. Espgaluda

I could swap out Espgaluda with Dodonpachi or Death Smiles 2, but my top 4 are locked. Amazing games :bow
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« Reply #34 on: February 08, 2011, 02:16:33 AM »
Yes, Muchi Muchi Pork & Pink Sweets will be region free. Although, IMO, if you want a region free shooter, I'd get Mushihime-sama Futari first. The platinum hits version is only $35 and it's one of the best shooters ever made, and it's in HD.

cool, I'll check it out.

I've always wanted to dabble in shmups, I just love the graphics and excitement of these games. Thinking about getting Guwange on XBLA too.

I've been playing Detana! Twinbee on the Game Room and it's pretty awesome
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« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2011, 01:07:51 PM »
New Muchi Muchi Pork & Pink Sweets PV, showing the arrange modes and some of the arranged music I guess:
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Looks good. Only 10 more days until dat Porku is out :hyper
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Re: Shooting games thread
« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2011, 01:11:42 PM »
lack of rail shooters in this thread
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« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2011, 01:50:17 PM »
Yeaaa, looks like they know what their fans really want, shitty iPhone and Facebook games!

whoa whoa whoa, their iphone games are anything but shitty.  Easily the best games on the phone and I'd put them up there against most of the PSP/DS game libraries too (which don't even have bullet hell shmups except stripped down Ketsui DS.)   plus, i like spending $8 instead of $80 on a game.  Sold off my copy of ESPGaluda 2 360 pretty soon after getting it because I still played it a lot more on my phone.  I'd probably do the same with Mushihime Futari if that ever made it to the iphone. 

then again, I'm not hardcore into 1CCing and memorizing patterns.  I like the quick thrill of dodging huge bullet patterns--so i'm pretty good at the first two stages of the games, then coast on continues through the last stages.

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« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2011, 02:58:19 PM »
lack of rail shooters in this thread

I'm not really familiar with rail shooters, what are some good ones? IIRC the only ones I've played are Panzer Dragoon, Sin & Punishment 2, and Rez.
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« Reply #39 on: February 14, 2011, 03:00:16 PM »
Dead Space Extraction, Time Crisis Raizing Storm, The Shoot (lol)

looks like there are some for Kinect too, maybe?

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Re: Shooting games thread
« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2011, 03:01:57 PM »
Aren't those lightgun games? Are they the same thing? Lightgun games are awesome, especially House of the Dead 2 :bow
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Re: Shooting games thread
« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2011, 03:39:24 PM »
yeah, I guess lightgun rail shooters and PDZ/Killer 7 style get lumped in together. 


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Re: Shooting games thread
« Reply #42 on: February 14, 2011, 07:22:24 PM »
lack of rail shooters in this thread

thats because this is a shmup thread
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Re: Shooting games thread
« Reply #43 on: February 14, 2011, 07:27:45 PM »
New Muchi Muchi Pork & Pink Sweets PV, showing the arrange modes and some of the arranged music I guess:
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Looks good. Only 10 more days until dat Porku is out :hyper

shit that looks good. I'm gonna get it I think, plus Mushihime-sama Futari. I'll see if my old man can buy them for me for 'research purposes'
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Re: Shooting games thread
« Reply #44 on: February 14, 2011, 07:39:13 PM »
lack of rail shooters in this thread

thats because this is a shmup thread


orlly ???

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« Reply #45 on: February 14, 2011, 07:42:28 PM »
yeah, I guess lightgun rail shooters and PDZ/Killer 7 style get lumped in together. 



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Re: Shooting games thread
« Reply #46 on: February 14, 2011, 07:46:34 PM »
lack of rail shooters in this thread

I'm not really familiar with rail shooters, what are some good ones? IIRC the only ones I've played are Panzer Dragoon, Sin & Punishment 2, and Rez.

Get Afterburner Climax for xbla/psn. Space Harrier is a good one and it's on wii store.

If you're looking for something older, Omega Boost, IS: Internal Section, and Tempest 2000 for playstation are all great.

Star Fox 64 is fantastic as well.

lack of rail shooters in this thread

thats because this is a shmup thread


???

rail shooters in many ways, ARE shmups. Except they use a third person perspective.
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« Reply #47 on: February 14, 2011, 07:55:37 PM »
Oh yeah, After Burner is awesome; I already bought Climax when it came out. Tempest is pretty good too, though I haven't played it since the Saturn version. Space Giraffe would have been a great spiritual sequel if it had graphics.

I'll check out Omega Boost and Internal Section some time.
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« Reply #48 on: February 14, 2011, 09:32:32 PM »
lack of rail shooters in this thread

thats because this is a shmup thread


orlly ???

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Re: Shooting games thread
« Reply #49 on: February 14, 2011, 09:33:20 PM »
Oh yeah, After Burner is awesome; I already bought Climax when it came out. Tempest is pretty good too, though I haven't played it since the Saturn version. Space Giraffe would have been a great spiritual sequel if it had graphics.

I'll check out Omega Boost and Internal Section some time.

Eiffell 65 talk about Omega Boost in their amazing song: "My Console"
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Re: Shooting games thread
« Reply #50 on: February 14, 2011, 11:26:17 PM »
Oh yeah, After Burner is awesome; I already bought Climax when it came out. Tempest is pretty good too, though I haven't played it since the Saturn version. Space Giraffe would have been a great spiritual sequel if it had graphics.

I'll check out Omega Boost and Internal Section some time.

Eiffell 65 talk about Omega Boost in their amazing song: "My Console"

Internal Section is fucking awesome, it was thanks to DCharlie I learned about that sweet game. It's like Tempest crossed with Rez, very nice soundtrack too.

And I'll be honest, I first heard of Omega Boost from the Eiffel 65 song  :P
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« Reply #51 on: February 16, 2011, 10:23:20 PM »
God damn it. The regular edition of Muchi Muchi Pork & Pink Sweets is sold out at NCSX and AmiAmi, and I don't trust Play-Asia enough for them to send me one from the first batch that comes with the pre-order bonus. That's what I get for being a lazyass when it comes to pre-ordering.

So I just said fuck it and ordered my first ever Cave limited edition. Yay?
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« Reply #52 on: February 18, 2011, 03:06:51 AM »
shit the LE is big bucks, no?

I just pre-ordered the regular version from Puray Asia. Mushihime-sama Futari was on back order  :'(
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« Reply #53 on: February 18, 2011, 04:12:10 AM »
What's with this rail-shooter shit?  It's called the shooting games thread because that's what these games are called (I hate the term shmup), technically games like Halo and Gears are shooters too but I'd just make fun of your casual football-lovin n00bness if you started posting about those here.  I don't really care if people talk about rail shooters here as long as they don't start to dominate the discussion.

Anyway, CAVE's festival is tomorrow!  Which one of you J-Bore peepz is actually going to take advantage of living in Tokyo and go to get the latest news several seconds before everyone else and be able to play games a whole several days before retail release?  I know I'll be there!  Besides, it gives me reason to go to that awesome import store in Akihabara to stock up on Butterfinger candies and barbecue sauce!

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« Reply #54 on: February 18, 2011, 05:12:17 AM »
shit the LE is big bucks, no?

I just pre-ordered the regular version from Puray Asia. Mushihime-sama Futari was on back order  :'(

Yeah, Cave LE's are usually really expensive and are almost never worth the additional cost, but whatever. At least the arranged music that comes on the bonus CDs seems pretty good.
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« Reply #55 on: February 18, 2011, 10:37:27 PM »
The Cave event should be starting any minute. There's a live stream here: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/cave2011

I suspect they will formally announce their ADV game and Dangun Feveron XBLA. Hopefully they have some other surprises in store.

edit: well the event has already started, so I guess the stream ain't working. Good job Cave. There's a liveblog here instead: http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/02/19/cave_live_blog/

12:42 -- Yep, it's Death Smiles for iPhone, coming Spring 2011.
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« Reply #56 on: February 18, 2011, 10:51:39 PM »
blah blah iOS and social game crap. I hope they get to the good stuff soon.
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« Reply #57 on: February 18, 2011, 11:10:03 PM »
13:09 -- Asada takes the stage!

13:08 -- I can't believe I can actually recognize Asada by the top of his head.

13:07 -- I think the shooter part is coming up WOOT!

13:07 -- I see Makoto Asada's head behind the barrier next to the stage.

:omg

13:12 -- Actually, it's pronounced Nin Nin Jump.

13:11 -- Nin2-Jump, coming to Xbox Live Arcade in 2011.

13:11 -- It's a ninja action game!

13:11 -- He shares a trailer for the first game.

13:10 -- He will detail three titles, all new.

:omg :omg :omg :omg

13:18 -- Next, one more game!

13:17 -- The first run bonus version will be a serial code for downloading add-on voices, which are newly recorded.

13:17 -- We'll be able to sample the game today and some of the new systems.

13:17 -- There will be new game systems and new stages.

13:16 -- All visuals in the game are being made into high res.

13:15 -- Game will have both standard and limited editions

13:15 -- Platform is Xbox 360.

13:15 -- Coming 5/26 as package release.

13:15 -- New stages.

13:14 -- It will have 16x9 visual support, new game systems...

13:14 -- The arcade shooter Akai Katana is coming home!

13:14 -- Akai Katana Shin!

13:13 -- Next, the second title.

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG
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« Reply #58 on: February 18, 2011, 11:19:15 PM »
Nice on Akai Katana.  Would be sick if it was region free, but probably not.

Will be very interesting to see what Cave does after its out since they are basically out of games to port and make cash.  I wonder if they'll start re-selling the old PS2 or earlier games on XBLA with achievements and new arrange modes.

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« Reply #59 on: February 18, 2011, 11:28:32 PM »
They also announced "Instant Brain", their ADV game. I guess you use a camera to progress through the story or something. And that's that. No Dangun, which is kinda surprising. Maybe they just canceled it.

I am excited for Akai Katana though. VERY surprised to see it's only three months away too - I thought they would wait until the end of the year before they put it on console. But yeah, the 360 is basically the Cavebox now. It has almost their entire library. I can see them doing an Ibara + Ibara Kuro double pack and porting the rest of their old games to XBLA or something, but they're almost all out of games.

Time to start cranking out more arcade games. Gimme Ketsui 2.
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