Author Topic: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk (Read 14026 times)

Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #60 on:** March 11, 2011, 08:26:06 AM »

Didn't hear anyone complaining about repetetive dungeons in Persona 3. Sounds to me like y'all jus' hatin'.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #61 on:** March 11, 2011, 08:42:07 AM »

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=424081

demi · « **Reply #62 on:** March 11, 2011, 08:43:33 AM »

Quote from: InfectedGib on March 11, 2011, 08:26:06 AM

Didn't hear anyone complaining about repetetive dungeons in Persona 3. Sounds to me like y'all jus' hatin'.

Nailed it so hard. This thread is like a honeypot for dumb dumbs. Let it out guys, thread aint going anywhere.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #63 on:** March 11, 2011, 08:46:12 AM »

gonna wait for the collected edition on this one with all the dlc, gives me plenty of time to finish the first

iconoclast · « **Reply #64 on:** March 11, 2011, 09:02:45 AM »

Quote from: InfectedGib on March 11, 2011, 08:26:06 AM

Didn't hear anyone complaining about repetetive dungeons in Persona 3. Sounds to me like y'all jus' hatin'.

Lots of people complained about that actually. Tartarus is just one big dungeon crawl full of randomized floors.

DA2 sounds like they copy+pasted the same areas over and over because they needed to rush the game out ASAP. I guess this is Bioware's standard solution when they are running low on content (ME1 sidequests come to mind, and even DAO suffered from a mild case of copypasta).

tiesto · « **Reply #65 on:** March 11, 2011, 09:06:22 AM »

The sad thing is this is gonna do much better in sales than Witcher 2, which by all accounts, looks like a far superior game.

demi · « **Reply #66 on:** March 11, 2011, 09:08:17 AM »

Quote from: tiesto on March 11, 2011, 09:06:22 AM

The sad thing is this is gonna do much better in sales than Witcher 2, which by all accounts, looks like a far superior game.

Uh - duh. Cause nobody buys PC games. I'd certainly buy Witcher 2 if it was on the trey nasty. Oh well!

archie4208 · « **Reply #67 on:** March 11, 2011, 10:22:15 AM »

I'm buying The Witcher 2. Polacks

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #68 on:** March 11, 2011, 10:33:55 AM »

Quote from: demi on March 11, 2011, 09:08:17 AM

Quote from: tiesto on March 11, 2011, 09:06:22 AM
The sad thing is this is gonna do much better in sales than Witcher 2, which by all accounts, looks like a far superior game.

Uh - duh. Cause nobody buys PC games.

As far as the game it is what it is. It's okay. It's decent. It you compare it to Bioware's catalogue it sort of reminds me of Neverwinter Winter nights 2 on how I kinda feel about it. I'm not sure why EA felt they had to rush it out there. That's disappointing. It's like they had no faith in the actual brand.

Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #69 on:** March 11, 2011, 10:44:57 AM »

Don't worry Demi, seems Archie's got your back, he will be partly funding the console iterations of Witcher 2. Can't wait for a even more streamlined Witcher 3.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #70 on:** March 11, 2011, 11:03:50 AM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 11, 2011, 10:33:55 AM

Quote from: demi on March 11, 2011, 09:08:17 AM
Quote from: tiesto on March 11, 2011, 09:06:22 AM
The sad thing is this is gonna do much better in sales than Witcher 2, which by all accounts, looks like a far superior game.

Uh - duh. Cause nobody buys PC games.

As far as the game it is what it is. It's okay. It's decent. It you compare it to Bioware's catalogue it sort of reminds me of Neverwinter Winter nights 2 on how I kinda feel about it. I'm not sure why EA felt they had to rush it out there. That's disappointing. It's like they had no faith in the actual brand.

Neverwinter Nights 2 was Obsidian.

Will wait for Ultimate Edition and Steam sale.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #71 on:** March 11, 2011, 11:07:47 AM »

yeah, nobody bought witcher 1, they're just making a sequel for fun

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #72 on:** March 11, 2011, 11:10:11 AM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 11, 2011, 11:03:50 AM

Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 11, 2011, 10:33:55 AM
Quote from: demi on March 11, 2011, 09:08:17 AM
Quote from: tiesto on March 11, 2011, 09:06:22 AM
The sad thing is this is gonna do much better in sales than Witcher 2, which by all accounts, looks like a far superior game.

Uh - duh. Cause nobody buys PC games.

As far as the game it is what it is. It's okay. It's decent. It you compare it to Bioware's catalogue it sort of reminds me of Neverwinter Winter nights 2 on how I kinda feel about it. I'm not sure why EA felt they had to rush it out there. That's disappointing. It's like they had no faith in the actual brand.

Neverwinter Nights 2 was Obsidian.

Will wait for Ultimate Edition and Steam sale.

Yeah I forgot about that. The feeling is still the same though. Slight disappointment mixed with me still enjoying elements of the game.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #73 on:** March 11, 2011, 11:14:02 AM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 11, 2011, 11:10:11 AM

Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 11, 2011, 11:03:50 AM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 11, 2011, 10:33:55 AM
Quote from: demi on March 11, 2011, 09:08:17 AM
Quote from: tiesto on March 11, 2011, 09:06:22 AM
The sad thing is this is gonna do much better in sales than Witcher 2, which by all accounts, looks like a far superior game.

Uh - duh. Cause nobody buys PC games.

As far as the game it is what it is. It's okay. It's decent. It you compare it to Bioware's catalogue it sort of reminds me of Neverwinter Winter nights 2 on how I kinda feel about it. I'm not sure why EA felt they had to rush it out there. That's disappointing. It's like they had no faith in the actual brand.

Neverwinter Nights 2 was Obsidian.

Will wait for Ultimate Edition and Steam sale.

Yeah I forgot about that. The feeling is still the same though. Slight disappointment mixed with me still enjoying elements of the game.

Have you played Mask of the Betrayer?

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #74 on:** March 11, 2011, 11:15:22 AM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 11, 2011, 11:14:02 AM

Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 11, 2011, 11:10:11 AM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 11, 2011, 11:03:50 AM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 11, 2011, 10:33:55 AM
Quote from: demi on March 11, 2011, 09:08:17 AM
Quote from: tiesto on March 11, 2011, 09:06:22 AM
The sad thing is this is gonna do much better in sales than Witcher 2, which by all accounts, looks like a far superior game.

Uh - duh. Cause nobody buys PC games.

As far as the game it is what it is. It's okay. It's decent. It you compare it to Bioware's catalogue it sort of reminds me of Neverwinter Winter nights 2 on how I kinda feel about it. I'm not sure why EA felt they had to rush it out there. That's disappointing. It's like they had no faith in the actual brand.

Neverwinter Nights 2 was Obsidian.

Will wait for Ultimate Edition and Steam sale.

Yeah I forgot about that. The feeling is still the same though. Slight disappointment mixed with me still enjoying elements of the game.

Have you played Sword of the Betrayer?

Just for like a second. I know betrayer is supposed to be better than regular NW 2 though so at some point I will get around to it.

Himu · « **Reply #75 on:** March 11, 2011, 11:31:04 AM »

i tried nwn2 and it bored me to death but i still kinda liked the combat because turn based combat will always be more appealing to me when it comes to rpgs

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #76 on:** March 11, 2011, 12:19:58 PM »

Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on March 11, 2011, 08:42:07 AM

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=424081

Since no one should ever have to click through to GAF:

A ban on the BioWare forums locks you out of playing Dragon Age 2.

Third · « **Reply #77 on:** March 11, 2011, 12:50:41 PM »

Lucky him?

Raban · « **Reply #78 on:** March 11, 2011, 03:22:22 PM »

Quote from: The Worst Poster Ever on March 09, 2011, 11:55:49 AM

yes I don't have a image program

did you uninstall MS paint

Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #79 on:** March 12, 2011, 08:52:59 AM »

Gonna start playing this myself tomorrow. Sort of intrigued this game had this much of a backlash.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #80 on:** March 12, 2011, 10:50:06 AM »

Quote from: InfectedGib on March 12, 2011, 08:52:59 AM

Gonna start playing this myself tomorrow. Sort of intrigued this game had this much of a backlash.

It's not "bad" per se, a solid b or b- title, but it really could have used some more time in the oven and less dumbing down for the demi crowd.

archie4208 · « **Reply #81 on:** March 12, 2011, 11:24:06 AM »

Do yourself a favor and play on hard. Game is near unplayable on nightmare because of the tons of additional waves during every encounter.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #82 on:** March 12, 2011, 04:59:18 PM »

I'm about 35 hours or so in at this point. I enjoy the game. Not as much as origins like I said but overall I wouldn't play it if I didn't like it to some degree despite the complaints I have. And there are a few aspects I prefer in it over origins. The speed and the responsiveness of the combat for example. I also prefer the streamlined crafting system because it means I actually use it in this game instead of having to carry around lots of ingredients to make things and then never actually doing it outside of healing or lyrium potions which was the case for me in origins.

Only one really hard fight for me so far in the game. The

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Ancient Rock Wraith

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It didn't help that I took a badly balanced party into the fight and I had very few health potions.

demi · « **Reply #83 on:** March 12, 2011, 07:09:04 PM »

Just played the intro - and yeah, this game takes a steaming diarrhea shit on Origins.

archie4208 · « **Reply #84 on:** March 12, 2011, 08:01:13 PM »

http://social.bioware.com/forum/Dragon-Age-II/Dragon-Age-II-Characters-Classes-and-Builds-Spoilers/The-Ultimate-Vanguard-Two-Handed-Nightmare-Domination---6396096-1.html

Makes the game much more manageable, and even fun (

), on nightmare.

demi · « **Reply #85 on:** March 12, 2011, 08:43:08 PM »

I love that you can finally dodge enemy attacks.

What a cluterfuck it was running away and -still- getting hit by some bullshit attack in Origins.

Seems like Mages are complete wimps ths time around though... Bethany was just like, dumb.

I went with Rogue again - imported my save.

Damian79 · « **Reply #86 on:** March 12, 2011, 09:14:44 PM »

Rogue archers own in this. SO strong.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #87 on:** March 12, 2011, 11:12:36 PM »

I just screwed my 2nd chick in the game.

Everyday I'm hustling.

demi · « **Reply #88 on:** March 13, 2011, 12:50:15 AM »

Man I am enjoying this game. I knew BioWare could fix their crappy first outing.

And Blood Dragon Armor is still as useless as ever, even moreso now that other members cant even equip it. LOL

Oh well, free money.

demi · « **Reply #89 on:** March 13, 2011, 01:43:49 PM »

Quote from: Damian79 on March 12, 2011, 09:14:44 PM

Rogue archers own in this. SO strong.

Truth - Varric is BEAST. And dwarves have chest hair now

Shame they dont let me strip them naked. Oh well. A good enough compromise.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #90 on:** March 13, 2011, 02:00:53 PM »

I don't use him that much. Although I'm an archer myself so he's a bit redundant in that case.

demi · « **Reply #91 on:** March 13, 2011, 02:15:18 PM »

I'd juggle a bow if they let you swap weapons like DAO, but I'm fine with running up and slicing and dicing.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #92 on:** March 13, 2011, 04:52:42 PM »

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I just beat ser varnell. That was an annoying fight that sort of emphasizes the worst part of combat in this game. Endless waves that spawn out of nowhere and behind you. And Varnell kept healing himself to boot. And after I beat beat him one of the Qunari bodies had a loot glow around it but it won't let me pick it up so that seems like a bug.

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MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #93 on:** March 13, 2011, 05:20:09 PM »

this game is bad. anyone who likes it has bad taste and prob likes garbage like siants row.

demi · « **Reply #94 on:** March 13, 2011, 07:22:05 PM »

Game's awesome. Anyone who likes it probably isn't a pathetic loser like Methodis. LOL!

Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #95 on:** March 13, 2011, 07:43:37 PM »

Now that I've played this for a few hours, can someone explain to me how this is supposed to be so much worse than DAO, 'cause I can't see it. Outside a few console concessions, game is still fundamentally DA. I mean, I hate that there's no overhead camera as much as the next person, but that does not warrant the backlash this is getting.

No one's yet sufficiently explained to me how the battle system in this is supposed to be sooo much worse than the original. And nope, animations and speed are not adequate reasons. Also, they don't constitute a 'dumbing down'.

I not saying it's better than DAO, either. There are some changes, yes. But the core of the experience remains consistent.

edit: again, I've only played this for a few hours, so impressions are subject to change. Not that minimal play time has stopped others from passing judgement, mind you.

demi · « **Reply #96 on:** March 13, 2011, 07:52:05 PM »

How to beat Nightmare:

Use Weapon/Shield class

Use characters who also have Weapon/Shield (Aveline, etc.)

Equip/Unequip shield and watch your defense rise and rise to the ten thousands

Enjoy Nightmare

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #97 on:** March 13, 2011, 08:04:08 PM »

Is that glitch on the PC version?

pilonv1 · « **Reply #98 on:** March 13, 2011, 08:18:32 PM »

What if you hate DA but like Saints Row?

archie4208 · « **Reply #99 on:** March 13, 2011, 08:43:29 PM »

Magical spawns, one boring ass city, copy pasta dungeons, fetch quests up the wazoo, downgraded graphics, and the Mass Effect wheel are my biggest gripes.

Varric is a bro, though.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #100 on:** March 13, 2011, 09:50:46 PM »

Quote from: InfectedGib on March 13, 2011, 07:43:37 PM

Now that I've played this for a few hours, can someone explain to me how this is supposed to be so much worse than DAO, 'cause I can't see it. Outside a few console concessions, game is still fundamentally DA. I mean, I hate that there's no overhead camera as much as the next person, but that does not warrant the backlash this is getting.

No one's yet sufficiently explained to me how the battle system in this is supposed to be sooo much worse than the original. And nope, animations and speed are not adequate reasons. Also, they don't constitute a 'dumbing down'.

I not saying it's better than DAO, either. There are some changes, yes. But the core of the experience remains consistent.

edit: again, I've only played this for a few hours, so impressions are subject to change. Not that minimal play time has stopped others from passing judgement, mind you.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say I've put the most time in the game so far in this thread. There are some legit things I really don't like about the game especially compared to the first. And there are some things I like about the game and there are even a couple of things that are improvements from the first.

The problem with GAF and that gaf thread is that its really not about this game. It's about some larger PC versus console debate which is why its blown up and why certain people are so invested in the debate.

Also it helps when you are able to breakdown down games beyond the extremes of "its complete shit" or the "teh greatest game ever!".

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #101 on:** March 13, 2011, 10:04:30 PM »

just started playing this. didn't play the first game. seems like Mass Effect 2 with swords. enjoying it. will continue playing

demi · « **Reply #102 on:** March 13, 2011, 10:07:02 PM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on March 13, 2011, 08:18:32 PM

What if you hate DA but like Saints Row?

As someone who both hates DA and loves Saints Row. I will say you will love DA2!

pilonv1 · « **Reply #103 on:** March 13, 2011, 10:18:20 PM »

Quote from: archie4208 on March 13, 2011, 08:43:29 PM

Magical spawns, one boring ass city, copy pasta dungeons, fetch quests up the wazoo, downgraded graphics, and the Mass Effect wheel are my biggest gripes.

Sounds great!

demi · « **Reply #104 on:** March 13, 2011, 11:16:43 PM »

Well, at least the blatant gay in this game is a human and not some twinky elf.

They dont give you much choices with sex do they? All I get:

- Widowed Housewife
- Precious underage elf girl with tight and moist hole
- Twinky emo elf man
- Blatantly homo demon-man (technically two people right?)
- Dyke pirate

Still cant sexor a hot dwarf, OR have hot incest relations with my sister. BioWare needs to step their game up.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #105 on:** March 14, 2011, 12:53:39 AM »

Isabella is seriously hot. I dont know why but i would fuck her if i gave chance

demi · « **Reply #106 on:** March 14, 2011, 12:57:12 AM »

I decided to stick with:

Avaline, Varric, Anders for my game party - everyone in this game is a freakin mage or some sort.

Is there really no other Warriors besides Avaline?

Damian79 · « **Reply #107 on:** March 14, 2011, 01:00:54 AM »

Fenris?

demi · « **Reply #108 on:** March 14, 2011, 01:23:55 AM »

He's not much of a tank character.

Damian79 · « **Reply #109 on:** March 14, 2011, 01:29:27 AM »

Yeah he sucks as a tank.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #110 on:** March 14, 2011, 02:03:06 AM »

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I stopped for the night on the fight with the Arishock. Another bullshit battle that does a great job of showing the flaws still inherent in the combat system. Even though you are supposed to be able to dodge and avoid blows like its an action game, its still bullshit dice rolls. This dude will swing his sword and come nowhere near me but because of dice rolls I get hit. Now the same thing happens in origins but at least they didn't pretend that was an action game or that you could "fight like a spartan". Lame.

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Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #111 on:** March 14, 2011, 06:54:08 AM »

Quote from: archie4208 on March 13, 2011, 08:43:29 PM

Magical spawns

This is a legit complaint. It's like I'm playing some sort of tower defence game now.

I mean, coupled with the faster pace of the game, it does keep you on your toes and puts a greater emphasis on party position and formation, but it feels cheap. Like if I'm playing a Total War game and hundreds of enemy units appear from nowhere - I would just wanna facepalm the game.

edit: game should now be referred as Dragon Age 2ower Defence Edition - only took me a couple of minutes to come up with that, :p

Brehvolution · « **Reply #112 on:** March 14, 2011, 10:30:13 AM »

Just played the demo. It ran great on my PC.

Pass

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #113 on:** March 14, 2011, 11:59:19 AM »

For what its worth I have no problem with the length of the game. It's more than enough especially with all the side quests.

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(Although I'm not really that fond of the entire thing being set in Kirkwall.

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maxy · « **Reply #114 on:** March 14, 2011, 12:15:32 PM »

UK

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Another RPG takes the top spot this week with EA’s ‘Dragon Age II’ swooping in to take No1. This marks EA’s third title to hit No1 so far this year (FIFA 11 and Dead Space 2 are the other two).

Xbox 360 drives the sales with a 57% share compared to PS3 at 22% and PC at 21%.

sbots

archie4208 · « **Reply #115 on:** March 14, 2011, 12:22:26 PM »

I wonder how its first week compares to DA1.

archie4208 · « **Reply #116 on:** March 14, 2011, 02:27:23 PM »

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/6503413/1

Haha

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #117 on:** March 14, 2011, 02:34:29 PM »

This is insane. Cheating is one thing, but being banned from playing a game because of something said on a forum? Come on.

demi · « **Reply #118 on:** March 14, 2011, 02:37:36 PM »

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/6503413/1#6503787

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looks like you can still play but just cant log-in

Nailed it. Nothing is wrong.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #119 on:** March 14, 2011, 02:41:52 PM »

That kind of misses the point, doesn't it?

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Author Topic: Dragon Age 2 thread of better than DAO, real talk (Read 14026 times)