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I'm in the Live update group and yesterday i still hadn't received the update when I turned on my 360 :(

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yeah i checked and double checked it :(

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Hopefully.  If not, I wonder if there's anything I can do.  Like calling them or something.

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Got home and got the update!  I also have my disc!  W00t!!  Even though I already have reach I'm super excited.

However, I just noticed a dark spot on my tv.  wtf :(  bah

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played about a hour with the new disc. the disc itself looks like a blu-ray, it's translucent etc.

the game was even blurier though :(
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from hacking scene

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The data reads larger than a DVD+R DL – but that may be faked / new protection so we will see.




10GB...hmm

Also update is flashing DVD firmware for certain drives
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Got my DVD.  :-[

I don't know what I'm supposed to do next though.  :-\

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The thing is that you can't rip(copy) 360 games using PC.You need 360 flashed with special firmware connected to the PC...360 reads the disc,PC is storage

It could be a trick...

Can't burn 10 GB on 8.5GB disc.Updated 360 would still read it normally.

piracy :violin

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Even before that new app smell has worn off from Hulu Plus, Microsoft will launch its annual spring update for the Xbox 360 Dashboard. Images sent to Joystiq by a Microsoft tech support employee reveal that the next Dashboard update will begin rolling out on May 19.

According to the documents, the update will be distributed in six separate waves between May 19 and May 30 "to ensure a high quality deployment." Additionally, while not technically part of the automatic update, Avatar Kinect is listed for a May 27 arrival as a separate download.

Aside from offering support for the new Microsoft disc format -- which will "be used in future game titles releasing later in 2011" -- the spring system update will enable PayPal support on the console, extending the payment option "to new international markets." PayPal will be "the only user facing feature" of the update.

Update: Microsoft tells us, "We have nothing to announce."

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/09/source-xbox-360-spring-2011-update-launches-may-19-adds-paypal/

360 piracy  :violin

Games are already at wave 11,each month some new shit comes out...constant flashing re-flashing,opening re-opening patching games needed,already way too much hassle much easier to buy the game.
And now this update,for the first time it will automatically flash drives to original state  :gloomy :violin

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Paypal is awesome.

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PayPal

Sony ethered

:lol implemented before May 31st. Precision kill
« Last Edit: May 10, 2011, 08:23:31 AM by pilonv1 »
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What an awesome snipe kill for MS :o

Sony should just pack bags home.

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magus ethered
buy a non-hacked 360
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piracy always find a way and if things go really south i can always trade my 360 for a ps3 (and actualy finaly get to play my atelier pantsu game!) so i don't really see the problem :smug
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check and mate...

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:rofl at the people thinking this will have a significant effect on piracy.
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Yeah. And I'm less likely to give PayPal an active credit card than MS.

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:rofl at the people thinking this will have a significant effect on piracy.

i'm already pirating Rock Band DLC songs with a non JTAG-ed xbox on this new firmware

thats not even a troll
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According to news from Kotaku, the new Xbox 360 firmware upgrade arriving imminently is incompatible with "a very small number" of consoles, and will prevent certain games from running on the console. The good news is that the platform holder will replace these machines with a brand new Xbox 360 S with 250GB hard drive.

It's a remarkable story, with Kotaku inferring that the new XGD3 disc standard - which adds 1GB of useable data to 360 DVDs - may not be compatible with a certain percentage of Xbox 360 DVD drives. However, the truth behind this incompatibility appears to be somewhat more involved. Since the arrival of the beta version of the new dashboard, hackers have been reverse-engineering it and finding a number of surprising additions never seen before in previous upgrades.

Firstly, this new release is the first that will actually see the drive firmware being rewritten by the Xbox 360 itself. Any one using a current hacked DVD drive will find that updating to the new dash instantly kills their ability to run pirate software, with the hacked code completely expunged from the DVD drive. Microsoft has employed a wide range of DVD drives in its machines from launch - the best guess is that not all of them can be flashed directly, necessitating a swapped console.

This new firmware doesn't just open up the additional 1GB of space previously set aside for the outdated, compromised security scheme - it features a completely brand new anti-piracy mechanism. In the past, previous attempts to foil piracy (such as AP 2.5) only worked on certain drives, with the feature disabled if you had older hardware. With the new system, it seems that the anti-piracy measures are so deeply embedded that they cannot simply be skipped in the same way.

We've also heard a number of reports that the new security protocols go beyond simply updating the dash. Multiple developer sources have told us that Microsoft has upped its game here significantly, and is now calling on studios to help get involved in combating Xbox 360 game piracy. According to this information, new APIs are being worked on that programmers can add to their titles which perform additional scans of the DVD during gameplay, not just when the game is booted as is currently the case.

Burned copies of Xbox 360 games are not 100 per cent identical to the originals, so hacked DVD drive firmware masks the differences with on-the-fly patching. Microsoft's hope is that in-game checks will be far harder to isolate and patch, and with control of these features in the developer's hands, pirate copies of games could even be "downgraded" into playable demos - for example, they could become non-functional after a couple of levels' play.

XDG3 is clearly a big deal for Microsoft - as evidenced by the company effectively giving away free Xboxes to ensure compatibility for all its userbase - but whether its new anti-piracy measures will be enough remains to be seen. The firm's last effort - AP2.5 - was dispensed with in a matter of days, and already drive firmware hacker "commodore4eva" is claiming that he has defeated the new countermeasures introduced in the beta dash...

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-new-xbox-dash-doesnt-work-on-all-drives



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The good news is that the platform holder will replace these machines with a brand new Xbox 360 S with 250GB hard drive.
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According to this information, new APIs are being worked on that programmers can add to their titles which perform additional scans of the DVD during gameplay, not just when the game is booted as is currently the case.

Pirates
 :gloomy :violin

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According to this information, new APIs are being worked on that programmers can add to their titles which perform additional scans of the DVD during gameplay, not just when the game is booted as is currently the case.
Advertising your game to pirates




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Wait, what? MS is going to give away new, better 360s for people who own crappy incompatible ones?

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Wait, what? MS is going to give away new, better 360s for people who own crappy incompatible ones?

Yes.Apparently they can see that in advance through Live/or you get some unique disc unreadable error.

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Microsoft has confirmed reports that some Xbox 360 consoles are not compatible with its new Xbox 360 firmware upgrade, and advised those affected to get in touch.

"Following a recent update to our system software, we have become aware of an issue that is preventing a very small number of Xbox 360 owners from playing retail game discs," Microsoft said.

"This issue manifests itself a as a unique 'disc unreadable' or 'disc unsupported' error on the screen. We are also able to detect this issue over Xbox Live and are proactively reaching out to customers that may be impacted to replace their console."

The console manufacturer urged those having problems to get in touch at www.xbox.com/support/contact "so we can verify if the console has been impacted".

Microsoft will replace borked machines with a brand new Xbox 360 S with 250GB hard drive.

The new firmware is thought to prepare the Xbox 360 for use with the new XGD3 disc standard, which adds 1GB of useable data to 360 DVDs.


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-05-18-how-to-get-your-replacement-xbox-360
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Please let me have an incompatible one!

Same!
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That Halo Reach disc they sent worked on my 360, so I guess mine isn't incompatible. I'll rid myself of this 20GB harddrive someday. :'(

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I had some problems with Halo Reach's textures and Rock Band crashes alot so maybe I have one  :-X
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sweet

I have two 360s so I have two rolls

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My Xbox 360 can't play no games since the update, I'll be taking one of those slims.
Really?! Wow, congratulations, I guess!

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My dashboard takes a few minutes to sign in sometimes and I keep getting a weird glitch where I can't turn off my controller.  I hold down the guide button, hit turn off controller and nada.  Still on and still works.  I posted the glitch in the xbox connect site but it was immediately changed to resolved and then closed so I guess they know about it and the official update might fix it?  No problems playing games though.

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My Xbox 360 can't play no games since the update, I'll be taking one of those slims.
Really?! Wow, congratulations, I guess!

No but my 360 has been pretty funky since the update. Weird freezes, dashboard taking forever to load (sometimes not even loading), hard crashes on games I know work, trouble launching XBLA games while playing disk games. It's pretty fucked but I'm sure none of this will fall under xbox replacement and I wonder if I should just be all "fuck ya'll, shit is busted".

I'd reckon that my 26 hour (holy fuck, thought it was 18) Assassin Creed: Brotherhood playthrough is about an hour of freezes and crashes. Bulletstorm froze a lot too.

If you think you can link it to the update, it the problems are coincident with the update, you might try to swing that past Xbox support. I'm sure they're being called by every mouthbreather and his brother right now for a freebie, but it's possible it might sync up with their known symptoms...?


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They need to just give everyone a free 360. Time to put the hammer down on Sony.
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http://connect.microsoft.com/?lc=1033


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THANK YOU!

The latest Xbox LIVE Update has now released to the entire Xbox community World Wide!!!
Check it out

We are now bringing to a close the latest round of the Xbox LIVE Update Program for our Preview audience. Your participation in the program over the last few months has been absolutely critical to releasing this latest update and we appreciate your involvement. Look for future opportunities posted on Major Nelson to join in the next round of the program slated for Fall 2011-We have some exciting updates planned!

As a token of our gratitude, we would like to provide you with an Avatar Award representative of this program. You can claim your reward by logging onto the Connect site, using the left-hand navigation to select "Product Keys" then select "Request New Product Key" then select "Get Key".

Use the Xbox LIVE Code displayed to redeem your reward: Halo Reach - Mark V Flaming Avatar Helmet

Go to xbox.com for instructions on how to redeem an Xbox LIVE code:
http://support.xbox.com/en-us/pages/xbox-live/how-to/prepaid-codes.aspx

DEADLINE: You have until June 10th 2011, to retrieve your reward code from the Connect Site. After that we will remove access to the program and you will not be able to redeem the reward.

Thank you again for your support & participation.

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Yep. Turned on mine and updated last night after power came back on.
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Mine updated last night too.

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I think the update broke my 360. Getting an error code, tried multiple times. Can't do anything from the dashboard, either.

Even better, the "support" on Xbox.com says

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Software Update Error Codes
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****-****-****-****-C000-003C <--- that's me

The console needs to be repaired. Please contact Xbox Support

Whores.

Himu

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got the new update
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I think the update broke my 360. Getting an error code, tried multiple times. Can't do anything from the dashboard, either.

Even better, the "support" on Xbox.com says

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Software Update Error Codes
long list of codes
****-****-****-****-C000-003C <--- that's me

The console needs to be repaired. Please contact Xbox Support

Whores.

Doesn't this mean you get a brand new one now?  That's fucking awesome!
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No. Maxy didnt update. It's not for this update... was a previous update.
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Re: New 360 update(incompatible consoles will NOT be replaced with 250GB slim)
« Reply #97 on: September 24, 2011, 03:18:16 PM »
FYI if you have that beta disc, it won't work anymore because of the title update but check your email and MS will send you a code for the games on demand version of Reach.