Author Topic: Nintendo 360 console thread(GI rumor:possible final name...Nintendo) (Read 44144 times)

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #240 on:** April 17, 2011, 01:18:40 PM »

well, you're not getting 8GB out of any of them, i can pretty much guarantee that

maxy · « **Reply #241 on:** April 17, 2011, 01:27:57 PM »

how good is your prediction record?

we'll see in about 2 years

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #242 on:** April 17, 2011, 01:38:09 PM »

i don't really have a prediction record, and i think that is mainly because i don't give a rat fuck about any of this shit beyond idle message board chitchat

i think it's safe to say you won't be jumping from 512MB ram to 8GB, though i could be wrong - like i said, don't care either way, really

Purple Filth · « **Reply #243 on:** April 17, 2011, 01:46:10 PM »

Didn't MS lose a lot of money when they doubled their RAM due to epic's advice? (though it helped big time in the longrun).

With that i don't think the RAM jump will be that huge (2gb max) imo, but we'll see.

maxy · « **Reply #244 on:** April 17, 2011, 02:25:49 PM »

Not loss,just the money that MS would have to pay for extra ram.

I think that estimation was one billion dollars through 360 lifespan.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #245 on:** April 17, 2011, 03:59:04 PM »

"next gen" consoles will get taped out at 2gb total working set, and bumped to 4gb if/when ram prices sputter just a bit more and/or third-party feedback is "lol 2gb, this makes porting hell"

Bebpo · « **Reply #246 on:** April 17, 2011, 04:10:26 PM »

they're not going to drop the xbox name.

"yo bro lets go play your xbox" is a household sentence in America thanks to the X360. Will be Xbox something. Xbox 2099

Bebpo · « **Reply #247 on:** April 17, 2011, 04:31:59 PM »

yeah, like zune

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #248 on:** April 17, 2011, 04:34:54 PM »

insider tip: it is called the "bzbox" and it is every fantasy you've ever had on the internet

cool breeze · « **Reply #249 on:** April 17, 2011, 05:11:21 PM »

Stepping away from tech talk for a bit, it's really hard to give a damn about the Wii2 if they don't try and improve the service of the device. It's incredible that the 3DS still associates purchases with hardware instead of an account. And things like friends list, achievements, custom soundtracks, proper online service, demo downloads, xbla/psn smaller games, cloud saving, etc. should be important differentiators in whatever is to come. The only thing that makes me think Nintendo might take its head out of the sand it the screen on the controller.

I think about how people use the iPad and phones as advanced remotes and things like that. It would be pretty cool to watch Netflix on the Wii2 while going through my instant queue on the controller. Or other simple, sub-tablet operations like that that integrate with the main console. It could lead to cool things in games too. Like, if anyone remembers GRAW, you could control a UAV but it would take you out of the action. It would be cool if the controller screen always had an overhead view of the action. You could give squad commands and draw paths on the screen while still providing suppressive fire on the top screen. Or any game with a hacking mini-game (Bioshock, Mass Effect, Alpha Protocol) having it take place on the bottom screen. I don't know why a screen on a controller seems interesting, but I have and continue to consider the two screens on the DS/3DS to be dumb. Probably because the DS/3DS are so shit weak that you generally don't have two graphically intensive tasks happening simultaneously. That and the DS/3DS screens are small and low res.

I'm aware that I've contradicted myself at least once in this post and it is in no way a cohesive thought...OMG SKYWARD SWORD HD WITH INFINITY BLADE-ESQUE SWIPE COMBAT REVOLUTIONARY NINTNEDO DOES IT AGAIN

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #250 on:** April 17, 2011, 05:17:56 PM »

if they use it as a touch screen for dynamic ui elements, color me sold

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #251 on:** April 17, 2011, 05:22:25 PM »

It would be k-kool if dey put a map on it

cool breeze · « **Reply #252 on:** April 17, 2011, 05:31:25 PM »

it would be cool :'(

my expectations are:
-viewing art of Krystal in StarFox
-controlling trains in Zelda Spirit Tracks 2
-gimped control for mario where you need to draw a circle on screen to spin
-Pokemon Photoshop
-Animal Crossing gardening mini-games
-Wii Music 2
-New Super Mario Bros 2 level editor

wait, I'd actually want that last one.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #253 on:** April 17, 2011, 05:32:43 PM »

Quote from: Linkzg on April 17, 2011, 05:11:21 PM

Stepping away from tech talk for a bit, it's really hard to give a damn about the Wii2 if they don't try and improve the service of the device. It's incredible that the 3DS still associates purchases with hardware instead of an account. And things like friends list, achievements, custom soundtracks, proper online service, demo downloads, xbla/psn smaller games, cloud saving, etc. should be important differentiators in whatever is to come. The only thing that makes me think Nintendo might take its head out of the sand it the screen on the controller.

The thing is I think they will upgrade most of that stuff and actually give a real effort in the online stuff but does anybody really think they will touch Microsoft in this area much less Sony? They are too busy worrying about pedophiles molesting little Timmy and I just don't think they take online as serious as MS or Sony. So even with the upgrade they will still be behind whatever Sony and MS are cooking up for their next consoles.

Oblivion · « **Reply #254 on:** April 17, 2011, 05:35:55 PM »

To jump to 8 gigs would be a 15 fold jump from what the HD consoles have right now. I somewhat doubt that'll happen considering the jump from Xbox to Xbox 360 in terms of ram was around 8 fold.

Bebpo · « **Reply #255 on:** April 17, 2011, 06:17:59 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on April 17, 2011, 05:32:43 PM

Quote from: Linkzg on April 17, 2011, 05:11:21 PM
Stepping away from tech talk for a bit, it's really hard to give a damn about the Wii2 if they don't try and improve the service of the device. It's incredible that the 3DS still associates purchases with hardware instead of an account. And things like friends list, achievements, custom soundtracks, proper online service, demo downloads, xbla/psn smaller games, cloud saving, etc. should be important differentiators in whatever is to come. The only thing that makes me think Nintendo might take its head out of the sand it the screen on the controller.

The thing is I think they will upgrade most of that stuff and actually give a real effort in the online stuff but does anybody really think they will touch Microsoft in this area much less Sony? They are too busy worrying about pedophiles molesting little Timmy and I just don't think they take online as serious as MS or Sony. So even with the upgrade they will still be behind whatever Sony and MS are cooking up for their next consoles.

They also don't really have the type of games that would benefit from spending a lot of time and money making online better. Nintendo is all about the local offline party fun.

Damian79 · « **Reply #256 on:** April 17, 2011, 06:38:16 PM »

Quote from: maxy on April 17, 2011, 09:19:31 AM

So you are Bill Gates now?

We all know why devs don't push memory too hard...

I like Sony PSP2 approach

"We thought about using reptilian age hardware...but fuck that,that is not us

We will use high end hardware,it will be costly...if you want to buy,fine

Dirty poor beer can collectors not wanted...buy in 5 years if you collect enough cans,we don't give a fuck"

You are missing my point. I am telling you all those other things are nothing compared to texture memory. The largest texture size on a Nvidia card is 1024X1024 and without texture compression at 32 bit textures with 4x compression you are looking at over 1 megs per texture. And i am talking the lowest amount of texture memory that will be used next gen i assume and that is one of 100s per scene let alone per stage. Even Factor 5 used 512x512 on the Gamecube. Some people dont even like using texture compression, now there is a thought.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #257 on:** April 17, 2011, 07:25:09 PM »

Quote from: Van Cruncheon on April 17, 2011, 05:17:56 PM

if they use it as a touch screen for dynamic ui elements, color me sold

this is nintendo we're talking about

Diunx · « **Reply #258 on:** April 17, 2011, 07:54:52 PM »

tbh using the screen for inventory management and to switch equipment is more exciting to me than playing my console games on it.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #259 on:** April 17, 2011, 08:12:36 PM »

the vmu returns ~~

pilonv1 · « **Reply #260 on:** April 17, 2011, 08:46:39 PM »

xfe breaks another story

I can see that being possible, but it might cannibalise their 3DS sales.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #261 on:** April 17, 2011, 10:10:51 PM »

3DS sales?

Bocsius · « **Reply #262 on:** April 17, 2011, 10:34:29 PM »

Quote from: Koopler on April 17, 2011, 07:08:29 PM

Quote from: Oblivion on April 17, 2011, 05:35:55 PM
To jump to 8 gigs would be a 15 fold jump from what the HD consoles have right now. I somewhat doubt that'll happen considering the jump from Xbox to Xbox 360 in terms of ram was around 8 fold.

Yeah but the generations are spaced out differently so you've got to adjust for time

4 years between xbox and 360 = 8 fold
8 years between 360 and 720 = 16 fold

So 8 gigs minimum makes sense - maybe 4 gigs of expensive RAM and another 4 of the cheap stuff

Using that logic, 8 years should see an x64 increase. 32GB RAM here we come.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

People would still complain.

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maxy · « **Reply #263 on:** April 17, 2011, 10:43:25 PM »

This Cafe thing could be nice for split-screen gaming.Imagine if screen is OLED...imagine

HyperZoneWasAwesome · « **Reply #264 on:** April 17, 2011, 11:19:32 PM »

so Nintendo's recently released, dedicated portable system can't get an HD screen, but the controller for the next system will?

Is Ninty going to sell these at some sort of PS3 price, cause I can't help but see them getting cheap somewhere along the line (in addition to horsepower, which we all know in our heart of hearts will be severely lacking).

I would be immensely glad to be able to play my Wii games all HD-ied up if the backwards compatibility thing is true.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #265 on:** April 18, 2011, 12:07:37 AM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on April 17, 2011, 10:10:51 PM

3DS sales?

there really isn't any doubt that the 3DS will do well in the future. Once it gets a bit cheaper and has it's own Pokemon/Mario Kart/Mario Bros it'll sell. I don't think any minor apps for the WiiMU would really affect 3DS app sales.

But honestly, I loved the VMU beeping at me and showing Cupil's face while I played Skies of Arcadia. I'm actually pretty pumped to see what this new console does.

I'm definitely not gonna be an early adopter here though, the Wii is a pile of shit (well, it could be worse but it ain't shit compared to 360 and PS3) - I'm envisioning complete lack of 3rd party support again and complete complacency from Nintendo.

naff · « **Reply #266 on:** April 18, 2011, 12:21:22 AM »

Quote from: Green Man on April 17, 2011, 11:24:44 PM

Hey guys, what if the screen is actually an e-ink screen and it's used for manuals and shit like that?

no. Shit joke

Mrbob · « **Reply #267 on:** April 18, 2011, 12:26:53 AM »

Quote from: Wrath2X on April 17, 2011, 11:42:10 PM

I remembered how much I hated ninfag speculation during the revolution days when reading the gaf thread.

Yeah some of the speculation is getting out of hand.

Quote from: Green Man on April 17, 2011, 11:24:44 PM

Hey guys, what if the screen is actually an e-ink screen and it's used for manuals and shit like that?

pilonv1 · « **Reply #268 on:** April 18, 2011, 12:35:10 AM »

what if it's an etch-a-sketch?

maxy · « **Reply #269 on:** April 18, 2011, 03:44:11 AM »

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According to an Ubisoft employee -who wished to stay anonymous-, the publisher pushes all their development teams to cash in with a bunch of 360 ports to match the march 2012 launch. "Even with the extra horse power, in especially the graphical department, we aren't allowed to put extra textures or revise bugged physics that occurred in the original." He also stated that the 3D features the system offers are revolutionairy and stunning, because you don´t need any glasses or 3DTV to experience it! The controller with build in screen and camera plays a huge part of that hologram like 3D effect. "With the optional motion control and the right horse power the only thing I can say is, Nintendo did it right this time!"

Holograms

Nintendo

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #270 on:** April 18, 2011, 04:29:25 AM »

where did you even get that? since when was 3D discussed?

pilonv1 · « **Reply #271 on:** April 18, 2011, 04:33:28 AM »

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"With the optional motion control and the right horse power the only thing I can say is, Nintendo did it right this time!"

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"...the publisher pushes all their development teams to cash in with a bunch of 360 ports to match the march 2012 launch. "

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"Even with the extra horse power, in especially the graphical department, we aren't allowed to put extra textures or revise bugged physics that occurred in the original."

maxy · « **Reply #272 on:** April 18, 2011, 04:34:22 AM »

Can't wait to see ninthings praise HD

omg,HD looks so cool
never played Ass Creed game,it looks so cool

/somebody posted it on Beyond3D

it could be something like this

spoiler (click to show/hide)

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

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TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #273 on:** April 18, 2011, 04:37:07 AM »

yeah bullshit.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #274 on:** April 18, 2011, 04:40:01 AM »

I can't see Nintendo going with something that can only be used by one person at a time.

maxy · « **Reply #275 on:** April 18, 2011, 04:47:04 AM »

Quote from: dcharlie on April 18, 2011, 04:38:00 AM

Mr Lee now works of MS on Kinect projects, i believe.

He is now at Google,i think.

Some previous rumors said that Super Wii can locate the player.Stuff like that would be nothing unusual.

Diunx · « **Reply #276 on:** April 18, 2011, 01:19:12 PM »

Quote from: maxy on April 17, 2011, 10:43:25 PM

This Cafe thing could be nice for split-screen gaming.Imagine if screen is OLED...imagine

you do realize this is nintendo we are talking about right?

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #277 on:** April 18, 2011, 01:41:00 PM »

Even though it sounds very gimmicky, I can see the on-controller screen being way less of a gimmick than anything else Nintendo has ever done. Even if it's used for something as simple as - well, take Red Dead Redemption on 360, for example. Weapons swapping is this kind of awkward process where you have to press the right bumper, then circle around the menu with the right analog stick to select pistol/rifle/shotgun/etc. THEN you use the D-pad to cycle through the various shotguns/pistols/rifles/etc. It's really janky when you're being shot at, and results in sometimes selecting your knife when you want a pistol, then getting killed and feeling like a jackass. If all the weapons were laid out on a touch screen for you, that's a very useful addition.

Or, maps in games. Glance at the screen, get your bearings, check enemy locations, set waypoints. Creating your own playbook in a football game. Keeping track of clues in a crime adventure game. Inventory/loot management in RPG games. All useful stuff you'd have to pause the game and bring up in a sub-menu before. I'm telling you right now, if there's an on-controller Pip Boy in the Nintendo 360 version of Fallout 4, I'm totally buying one.

Yeah, I actually think the built-in screen is the best addition to the traditional controller in years. Although I really doubt it's gonna be 6 inches.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #278 on:** April 18, 2011, 01:44:28 PM »

Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on April 18, 2011, 01:41:00 PM

Even though it sounds very gimmicky, I can see the on-controller screen being way less of a gimmick than anything else Nintendo has ever done. Even if it's used for something as simple as - well, take Red Dead Redemption on 360, for example. Weapons swapping is this kind of awkward process where you have to press the right bumper, then circle around the menu with the right analog stick to select pistol/rifle/shotgun/etc. THEN you use the D-pad to cycle through the various shotguns/pistols/rifles/etc. It's really janky when you're being shot at, and results in sometimes selecting your knife when you want a pistol, then getting killed and feeling like a jackass. If all the weapons were laid out on a touch screen for you, that's a very useful addition.

Or, maps in games. Glance at the screen, get your bearings, check enemy locations, set waypoints. Creating your own playbook in a football game. Keeping track of clues in a crime adventure game. Inventory/loot management in RPG games. All useful stuff you'd have to pause the game and bring up in a sub-menu before. I'm telling you right now, if there's an on-controller Pip Boy in the Nintendo 360, I'm totally buying one.

Yeah, I actually think the built-in screen is the best addition to the traditional controller in years. Although I really doubt it's gonna be 6 inches.

I remember seeing posts like this 5-6 years ago about all the things waggle would provide for adventure games, FPS, etc

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #279 on:** April 18, 2011, 01:47:44 PM »

dude, flailing around with a wand is a gimmick, shifting things like inventory, maps, weapon selection to a secondary screen to make it more convenient and accessible for the player isn't - it's something the hardest core PC players have been doing (on a larger scale with secondary monitors) for years

it's not a "game changer" or a "revolution" or whatever cringe-inducing buzz words or catch phrases fanboys like to throw around, it's just a useful addition to existing gameplay that actually (for once) makes a lot of sense

maxy · « **Reply #280 on:** April 18, 2011, 01:51:14 PM »

Quote from: Diunx on April 18, 2011, 01:19:12 PM

Quote from: maxy on April 17, 2011, 10:43:25 PM
This Cafe thing could be nice for split-screen gaming.Imagine if screen is OLED...imagine

you do realize this is nintendo we are talking about right?

imagine

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #281 on:** April 18, 2011, 01:56:01 PM »

btw, change thread title to "Nintendo 360 console thread"

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #282 on:** April 18, 2011, 01:58:04 PM »

An extra touch screen on a controller would be cool. I can see a lot of uses for it as long as it doesn't make the controller crazy big. But that being said its not a game changer for me or anything unless it changes the way I can physically manipulate movement space in the game in a new and interesting way. If its just moving the menu screens to another screen, while I think that's cool, its not a crazy big deal to me. In the same way that adding a second screen for the ds wasn't a crazy big deal to me to view secondary information. Although there are some games that use the secondary screen on a DS in more interesting ways.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #283 on:** April 18, 2011, 02:03:22 PM »

Yeah, i just think it would eliminate some of the submenu awkwardness of weapon wheels, bringing up maps, inventory control, etc. I'm sure Nintendo will dick it up with a bunch of happy-go-lucky whimsical minigame bullshit where you have to stab at the screen every five seconds to juggle blue shells or whatthefuckever in their first-party games, but even if third parties just use it for what I listed above that's honestly enough for me.

maxy · « **Reply #284 on:** April 18, 2011, 02:27:52 PM »

To me personally,manipulating menus,maps,etc doesn't mean much.After few minutes I forget that I have controller in my hands,everything goes automatically.

But playing full games on it

There are few requirements for this to be great

-has to work with every game,handled on OS level(like xbox live stuff)
-has to be optional,play with menus,play full games on it,whatever...everything handled by the OS
-screen has to be good...decent res,it would be great if screen was OLED

360 controller with 6 inch 960×544 OLED screen and next gen console behind it...

Trent Dole · « **Reply #285 on:** April 18, 2011, 02:42:46 PM »

bahaha, Nintendo 360. If they try to sell it for $300 or more they can fuck off. I'll probably wait until it goes to $200 anyway.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #286 on:** April 18, 2011, 03:23:53 PM »

A controller with a 6 inch touchscreen doesn't sound affordable or good on battery life. Is this just wild internet speculation getting out of fucking hand again?

magus · « **Reply #287 on:** April 18, 2011, 04:14:43 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on April 17, 2011, 11:24:44 PM

Hey guys, what if the screen is actually an e-ink screen and it's used for manuals and shit like that?

Diunx · « **Reply #288 on:** April 18, 2011, 05:06:55 PM »

Using it as a codec screen

magus · « **Reply #289 on:** April 18, 2011, 05:08:16 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on April 18, 2011, 04:58:35 PM

Come on guys, wouldn't it be fucking hilarious if it was an E-ink screen and was used for shitty things like manuals and credits. Imagine Ubisoft credits constantly scrolling on the device while you're playing the game (and then while the credits scroll on your TV).

It would be amazing.

i don't even know what's an e-ink screen i just tought it was the first reply of the page that was appropriate for such a quote

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #290 on:** April 18, 2011, 05:12:27 PM »

Quote from: Diunx on April 18, 2011, 05:06:55 PM

Using it as a codec screen

fffuuuuuu this makes too much sense

MCD · « **Reply #291 on:** April 18, 2011, 05:42:49 PM »

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Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #292 on:** April 18, 2011, 06:32:31 PM »

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Damian79 · « **Reply #293 on:** April 18, 2011, 08:27:39 PM »

I dunno it could be an alternate version of the tech from that lee guy ages ago.

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #294 on:** April 18, 2011, 08:57:39 PM »

So the latest rumors being reported by several sites right now:

-First developer to get devkit was Rockstar
-they got it right after E3 2010
-GTAV might be a launch/launch window title for the system
-NOTHING stated about it being an exclusive. Just rumored to be releasing on the system.
-Aiming for a June 2012 release
-the French site reporting the specs are trying to underline as much as possible that they do not, in fact, know the extent of the power of the machine. People reporting that the system will have "360-like graphics" are mistaken. Rather, the site keeps reiterating that from what they've heard, the system has a similar architecture, but nothing is known about power at the moment.
-Apparently a picture of the controller has been leaked and in someone's hands.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #295 on:** April 18, 2011, 09:10:44 PM »

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-GTAV might be a launch/launch window title for the system

Waste of time because it will still be on PS3/360. Unless they're getting exclusives what's the point? Didn't they learn their lesson?

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #296 on:** April 18, 2011, 09:14:36 PM »

so? If it's a timed exclusive, especially near the launch, it's still a pretty big deal. Garners attention for the system, possibly get it before the others do...it's a high-quality game, isn't that everyone wants anyway?

Also, your statement is considering the systems are indeed equal in power. We still don't know that yet. The press is running away with a site's information where they even state themselves "we don't know."

cool breeze · « **Reply #297 on:** April 18, 2011, 09:27:22 PM »

GTAV, or any big franchise, as a Wii2, or any launch system, exclusive is borderline distinguished mentally-challenged.

Where are these rumors from? why would Rockstar jeopardize the far greater sales from the PS3/360 install base to ensure the Wii2 moves a few more units. Nintendo would literally need to be rolling in with dump trucks of money to make it a worthwhile proposition.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #298 on:** April 18, 2011, 09:28:43 PM »

*shrugs* It's probably not true, however I DO believe that Rockstar is one of the first teams Nintendo visited and gave a devkit to. Nintendo for the last two years have been riding their dicks.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #299 on:** April 18, 2011, 09:35:06 PM »

Quote from: Linkzg on April 18, 2011, 09:27:22 PM

GTAV, or any big franchise, as a Wii2, or any launch system, exclusive is borderline distinguished mentally-challenged.

Where are these rumors from? why would Rockstar jeopardize the far greater sales from the PS3/360 install base to ensure the Wii2 moves a few more units. Nintendo would literally need to be rolling in with dump trucks of money to make it a worthwhile proposition.

It's from the french site that leaked the NGP details, and I think CVG. Lemme check.

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Author Topic: Nintendo 360 console thread(GI rumor:possible final name...Nintendo) (Read 44144 times)