Nintendo 360 console thread(GI rumor:possible final name...Nintendo)

[Diunx]

Being able to stream the game to the controller has several benefits that I can think of at the moment: multiplayer game options other than split screen, letting the TV be used by the ninthing's poor parents while still quenching the pleb's thirst for pokeymans, certain gameplay functions (rearview, codec screen, Four Swords, etc.)

The screen and its touch abilities make this much more relevant to my tastes than motion.

Sounds like a waste of expensive electricity, nintendo don't care about poor countries

[Himu]

what is interesting about streaming a game to a controller? i'd much rather have the custom and contextual interface options a touch interface allows.

What if it allows you to leave the house with it? I'd have my dream system. Play Mario on the go, and when you get back home, plug it back to the system and continue your game.

It would be revolutionary and a step towards more mobile gaming, which everything is turning into anyways. It's a step in the right direction, but not THE direction.

If it were up to me, 3ds wouldn't exist, and wii 2 would be both the new gameboy/ds and their new console and you could do what I described above.

[TakingBackSunday]

nerds

[Himu]

Better face up to it. You really think consoles will exist in 10 years?

[etiolate]

Yes, because mobile gaming doesn't provide the same experience as console gaming.

[BlueTsunami]

If the controller really does what its rumored to do, there's gonna be so much fecal matter the average gamers remote. That ain't dried cheeto crumbs inside the shoulder buttons.

[MCD]

You really think consoles will exist in 10 years?

I bet you my account that they will.

[TakingBackSunday]

the superior french site that's better than IGN have more info on the controller:

01net is giving some more details on the controller. They seem to suggest screen resolution will fall into the 800 x 500 range. Such LCDs so exist in the 6" area. 800x 480 6" touchscreen is common for GPS devices.

They say their source says this is one of the closest MOCKUPS to the general design
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Of course it's just a mockup and may not look exactly like this.  But, seems to be generally what most everyone expects.

I just hate the 6 inch thing.  Give me a 4 inch one, that's better.

[TEEEPO]

Better face up to it. You really think consoles will exist in 10 years?

uh... yes?

[Himu]

You really think consoles will exist in 10 years?

I bet you my account that they will.

evilbore won't exist in 10 years

[TakingBackSunday]

it's going to be significantly better

[cool breeze]

lol predictions about the future

[MCD]

You really think consoles will exist in 10 years?

I bet you my account that they will.

evilbore won't exist in 10 years

Please donate.

[Diunx]

Better face up to it. You really think consoles will exist in 10 years?

Of course they will you silly man.

[Himu]

In their current form? I don't think so.

[magus]

we will all be dead in 2012 anyway

[BlueTsunami]

We are already dead

[Himu]

best purgatory ever

[Stoney Mason]

lol predictions about the future

This

In their current form? I don't think so.

What does current form even mean? Gaming devices evolve. At one point console games came on cartridges, didn't have hard drives, and had no online capacity. Gaming devices always evolve. I'm not sure saying gaming devices in 10 years will be significantly different tech wise is a very bold argument. 

[BlueTsunami]

One thing we can count on is a greater reduction in moving parts though keeping the things cool will still require fans. Though I still wouldn't mind beefy and powerful and quiet due to a larger case size allowing for larger fans. I mean, fuck, I've got a 7.1 Pioneer Receiver that dwarfs my 360 and PS3 so I don't really mind a physically large system.

It would be cool to see if physical media containing the games moves to memory cards in 2013. I hope both Sony and Microsoft consider something faster than what optical disks allow. I'm tired of in game loading times.

[Diunx]

I wouldn't mind going memory cards for the next gen, as long as they keep selling physical copies of the game and let the digital distribution as an option all is fine by me.

[Great Rumbler]

I really wouldn't mind going to DD only for the next wave of consoles, provided that they all come with a sizable harddrive. That's the real deal breaker, I don't want to have to download, install, delete, redownload, and so on because there isn't enough room for more than half a dozen games at a time.

Of course, there's the consequence of the used game and rental markets instantly drying up.

[BlueTsunami]

It would be cool if Valve is trying to set a precedent for a system that would work nextgen. Ease the transition even more into DD by linking your physical copy of a game with something you could download off of Microsoft's/Sony's DD servers. Though that would open the can of worms of tying a copy of the game to the system and whatnot (both physical and digital). Either way, interesting times. I'm more excited for the gen coming up than the one we're in now. A lot of the growing pains from the convergences we've seen at the start of this gen shouldn't hinder the next one.

[Stoney Mason]

I'm absolutely certain certain Digital distribution only is not going to be in the next generation of consoles. Society just isn't there yet. Maybe the generation after that.

On a personal note, although I like digital distribution I don't like it as the only choice available. I'll be annoyed when everybody is forced down that path eventually.  

[BlueTsunami]

DC

[maxy]

Streaming plays a central role in the attraction of this "Project Café.  The console will be able to stream wirelessly streaming multiple types of streams (different media, games) to the knobs. This will make it possible to play without turning on the TV, or start a frenzied games on the big screen, and continue uninterrupted into the toilet.! A real revolution!

 

Revolution

[maxy]

I thought the gaf wii2 thread was bad...

At least we don't have 1080p 60 fps 4870x2 herp derp loonies.

evilbore

[Herr Mafflard]

Streaming plays a central role in the attraction of this "Project Café.  The console will be able to stream wirelessly streaming multiple types of streams (different media, games) to the knobs. This will make it possible to play without turning on the TV, or start a frenzied games on the big screen, and continue uninterrupted into the toilet.! A real revolution!

 

Revolution

knobs lol

please don't tell me playing console games on a tiny ass controller screen is considered a revolution now.

streaming HD games presents another problem, if UI and gameplay elements are designed to be viewed on a HD screen, surely this presents challenges in terms of taking something that is clearly meant to be seen on a large screen and dumping it on to a comparitively tiny screen space.

Don't tell me the average duder can play CoD in their hands, or hell even Mario. You'd have to change camera zoom, resize UI and level geometry to play 'em comfortable on a tiny screen.

This thing will mainly be used for stupid touch mini games, needless UI elements and perhaps whimsical injections via an onscreen Navi fairy :-


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- *punches the controller screen*

[Diunx]

Yeah this just sounds like a giant DS.

[Oblivion]

The screen on the control just seems like a huge waste of money. Would have been better if Nintendo appropriated those funds to processing power.

[cool breeze]

With all these claims about the new system, you'd think Nintendo officially announced it.  But it's still just a bunch of conflicting rumors.

[Mrbob]

what is interesting about streaming a game to a controller? i'd much rather have the custom and contextual interface options a touch interface allows.

Agreed.  Sounds terrible.  I already own portable systems.  I don't need my console for portable gaming.

[demi]

You really think consoles will exist in 10 years?

I bet you my account that they will.

evilbore won't exist in 10 years

this nicca thinks im just gonna up and get a life or something... please.

[Himu]

[Trent Dole]

The screen on the control just seems like a huge waste of money. Would have been better if Nintendo appropriated those funds to processing power.

This console only needs to last 3-4 years. When the Xbox 3 and PS4 hits, They'll be talking about a new system.

The Nintendo Stopgap (tm)

[BlueTsunami]

A better scenario would definitely be the 3DS having the same connectivity their touting with this remote. Maybe the updated 3DS will come out alongside the Wii2 and basically be this controller.

[naff]

what is interesting about streaming a game to a controller? i'd much rather have the custom and contextual interface options a touch interface allows.

Yeah, no menu pop ups on the main screen needed is a great idea. No need to break the flow of the main screen with menus and crap, creating a more immersive experience. However the controller screen would be great for arcade games or older games, gba games etc etc and you don't need to buy a separate handheld. There must be a massive demographic of people like me who play games but don't buy handhelds.

[Great Rumbler]

I wish Nintendo would focus on getting a steady stream of good games for the next system, the Wii started at pretty great but it collapsed after about two years and turned into a utter dead zone. No way am I going to jump in Day 1 again on their next system, however cool their latest gimmick might be.

[cool breeze]

If we're wishing for things, I wish Nintendo would give up making overpriced, shoddy, gimmickry hardware and just make games.  The 3DS is basically a PSP that plays Nintendo games.  This thing sounds like an Xbox 360 that plays Nintendo games.  I'd like to get straight to playing Mario Galaxy 3 without investing in new hardware that'll be unplugged 350 days a year.

[pilonv1]

Nintendo has a steady stream of games for their systems - ports of games from their previous systems

[Great Rumbler]

Nintendo has a steady stream of games for their systems - ports of games from their previous systems

And waggle, mini-game collection! Don't forget those!

[magus]

- “there won’t be friend codes on the new console. ...I think Nintendo has learnt their lesson there.”
- Mr. Kennedy says that he is sure of this
- Project Cafe is "Not just like a new controller"
- more to the system than simply a new input device
- Project Cafe will have a “Wii vibe” and high definition graphics, ”plus something”
- Nintendo fans will be like “wow”

"nintendo learnt their lesson! that's why the 3DS has friend codes!"

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

If we're wishing for things, I wish Nintendo would give up making overpriced, shoddy, gimmickry hardware and just make games.  The 3DS is basically a PSP that plays Nintendo games.  This thing sounds like an Xbox 360 that plays Nintendo games.  I'd like to get straight to playing Mario Galaxy 3 without investing in new hardware that'll be unplugged 350 days a year.

Given that Nintendo's last three systems were overpriced, shoddy, and gimmicky hardware, and were huge successes that Nintendo has never seen before, it makes perfect sense for Project Cafe to be overpriced, shoddy, and gimmicky.  Nintendo isn't going to abandon a business model that gave them several billion dollars a year in profit to return to the old days where they just made a few hundred million in profit a year.  If anything, Nintendo is going to ensure that this new machine is even more skimpy on the hardware and to see what gimmick they can attach onto it to make more profit than before.  The screen on the controller is a great idea, especially if it is a cheap piece of shit that they can sell for $80-90.

Or even better, have no controllers at all, just a plug-in to connect your 3DS and that is your controller.  That would explain the screen on the controller business.

[magus]

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/nintendo-console-rumor.php

[Himu]

[Phoenix Dark]

Zelda 4 Swordz will be such a killer app for this

[TakingBackSunday]

the closest and final mockup to the real thing, according to the superior french site

[BlueTsunami]

using the 360's analog stick placements would be awesome of Nintendo. I can't believe people still defend the Dual Shock in that regard

[Stoney Mason]

the closest and final mockup to the real thing, according to the superior french site

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That does look kinda cool although I'm skeptical because Nintendo has never designed anything that looks that non-kiddy ever.

My first impression is that the screen could kinda be cool and work in that format.

My second impression is that its missing a face button compared to current gen controllers. 3 versus 4. And it doesn't look like it has shoulder buttons. I mean it has 2 but not 4 like current gen although maybe that's because of the angle.

Overall though I think it looks kinda neat. I could envision some interesting uses.

[cool breeze]

I'm so confused.  This thing is supposed to use nubs? the screen is a lower resolution than PSP2? the touch screen is single touch? releasing in about 14 months?

Do you even play games on your TV? the info the gaf thread sounds like it's all on the controller.

[Phoenix Dark]

$100 controllers here we come

[Purple Filth]

I'm so confused.  This thing is supposed to use nubs? the screen is a lower resolution than PSP2? the touch screen is single touch? releasing in about 14 months?

Do you even play games on your TV? the info the gaf thread sounds like it's all on the controller.

Sounds like you can and then stream to the controller when the TV is needed by someone else

[cool breeze]

but that would be supremely stupid.  if you play on the TV, does the screen on the controller do nothing? will they create two interfaces for games now?

how do you design games with touch if they can be played on the TV? how do you design games that both screens?

all the information about this thing is conflicting

[Stoney Mason]

To be fair none of this info has been "released". It's just people piecing together bits of information from sources and people who are leaking things.

Not sure how the streaming thing works. Although if someone I could say play a game in bed or something by just keeping my main console turned on, that could be kinda cool. Wouldn't work with all games but I could see it working for some type of games. Although I don't quite understand how that kind of streaming could work.

[maxy]

[Damian79]

To be fair none of this info has been "released". It's just people piecing together bits of information from sources and people who are leaking things.

Not sure how the streaming thing works. Although if someone I could say play a game in bed or something by just keeping my main console turned on, that could be kinda cool. Wouldn't work with all games but I could see it working for some type of games. Although I don't quite understand how that kind of streaming could work.

?  It woudl just send data of the image to be displayed right?  Not toohard and not too battery consuming.

[Stoney Mason]

To be fair none of this info has been "released". It's just people piecing together bits of information from sources and people who are leaking things.

Not sure how the streaming thing works. Although if someone I could say play a game in bed or something by just keeping my main console turned on, that could be kinda cool. Wouldn't work with all games but I could see it working for some type of games. Although I don't quite understand how that kind of streaming could work.

?  It woudl just send data of the image to be displayed right?  Not toohard and not too battery consuming.

Maybe it is that simple. I would just think latency and the back and forth would be an issue but maybe not. I'm no engineer.

[maxy]

To be fair none of this info has been "released". It's just people piecing together bits of information from sources and people who are leaking things.

Not sure how the streaming thing works. Although if someone I could say play a game in bed or something by just keeping my main console turned on, that could be kinda cool. Wouldn't work with all games but I could see it working for some type of games. Although I don't quite understand how that kind of streaming could work.

Trust the french

Controller is like a mini-TV
Console outputs picture to controllers(4 max,split screen multiplayer) and TV,TV can be on or off
Basically a mini OnLive

-Controller screen resolution of 800x500.
-Can play games, watch movies, and more without turning on the TV by just streaming them to the controllers. Can stream to multiple controllers at once.
-Each controller acts a terminal, with the console doing all of the calculations to reduce latency, controller cost, and bandwidth requirements.

Console/handheld hybrid would make me forget about dedicated handhelds since I always play them at home.
Handheld that has 360 controller controls=hot hot hot

The best part is that those things don't have to be designed for portability and they are powered by next gen console hardware.

[maxy]

Another picture,again from Nintendo developer support website,warioworld

[Corporal]

That's Cafe "Advance(d) Support", not "Cafe Advance" Support, right? Because my sphincter isn't ready for more than one model of hardware.