know what i miss?

[magus]

PSX fighting games

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DAT CHOPPY 3D

[MCD]

Another nostalgia thread.

Get with the times, boy.

[Himu]

blargh

[iconoclast]

Saturn fighting games >>>>>>>>>>> PSX fighting games

Saturn > PSX in general, actually.

[magus]

Another nostalgia thread.

Get with the times, boy.

you should be happy this isn't about some sappy rpg or nintendo game maiboi

Saturn fighting games >>>>>>>>>>> PSX fighting games

Saturn > PSX in general, actually.

i never owned a sega console

and i'm proud of that

me

[Great Rumbler]

RPGs with prerendered backgrounds.

[Joe Molotov]

I miss when this thread didn't exist.

[magus]

RPGs with prerendered backgrounds.

you are a good man great rumbler

I miss when this thread didn't exist.

the only good man in this thread :'(

[Himu]

RPGs with prerendered backgrounds.

same

[Great Rumbler]

I also miss JRPGs that just had text, no voiced dialog or long cutscenes.  :'(

[Himu]

Same

[Shaka Khan]

Creates thread about blocky 3D fighters.

Ignores Virtua Fighter 1/2.

Kills self... hopefully.

[archie4208]

I don't miss anything in this thread.  Technology creating better games

[iconoclast]

Creates thread about blocky 3D fighters.

Ignores Virtua Fighter 1/2.

Kills self... hopefully.

and FIGHTING VIPERS

i think it's time for a FV revival.

[Great Rumbler]

I don't miss anything in this thread.  Technology creating better games

[magus]

Creates thread about blocky 3D fighters.

Ignores Virtua Fighter 1/2.

Kills self... hopefully.

sorry as i said i never owned a sega console so i never played a virtua fighter before virtua fighter 4 on ps2

[bork]

I don't miss anything in this thread.  Technology creating better games

I can agree with this when it comes to the games listed in the OP.   

[Joe Molotov]

You also didn't mention Battle Arena Toshinden, the game that introduced the Playstation Generation to the shittiness that was PSX 3D fighting games.

[Shaka Khan]

THUNDAAA RING!

[magus]

You also didn't mention Battle Arena Toshinden, the game that introduced the Playstation Generation to the shittiness that was PSX 3D fighting games.

toshiden? i think i played the 3rd...

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i clearly remember the 4th one though!

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i remember one of the character had a jumping kick and the CPU was always so dumb he would use it near the edge and ring out himself

[Joe Molotov]

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"Mom and dad aren't home..."

[demi]

> ctrl+f "Ehergeiz RPG mode"

fail

[Sho Nuff]

WTF they made a 4th Toshinden game!?

[naff]

RPGs with prerendered backgrounds.

Yeah, I like em too  :'(

Also
[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

I was bought this game as a kid. Played it quite a bit

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

WTF they made a 4th Toshinden game!?

Weren't they supposed to make a new one for the Wii or something?

[Himu]

Toshinden 3 has the most hilarious intro in a game.

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[bork]

WTF they made a 4th Toshinden game!?

Yeah, that shitpile was called "Toshinden Subaru."

Even worse was this garbage:

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But hey, Puzzle Arena Toshinden was okay!

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And in the end, the best Toshinden game that came out was the only 2D version ever made, for the Gameboy.

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Only one that played well.

[Positive Touch]

fuck ugly early 3d, fuck long-ass loading times, fuck long-ass unskippable story scenes, fuck all old VA that wasn't MGS1, fuck shoehorning rpg systems into every game, fuck padding out game length to compete with 40 hr rpgs, fuck 3d action games before DMC1, fuck 2d vs 3d fanboy arguments, fuck the ps1 era

[naff]

I didn't read shit about gaming on the internet till post PS1 era, 'twas a wondrous time of yore. PS1 era

[magus]

> ctrl+f "Ehergeiz RPG mode"

fail

why the heck you would play the rpg mode? you were too busy making cloud vs sephiroth well before they did dissidia

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[Smooth Groove]

fuck ugly early 3d, fuck long-ass loading times, fuck long-ass unskippable story scenes, fuck all old VA that wasn't MGS1, fuck shoehorning rpg systems into every game, fuck padding out game length to compete with 40 hr rpgs, fuck 3d action games before DMC1, fuck 2d vs 3d fanboy arguments, fuck the ps1 era

TRUTH

PS1 sucked

3DFX gaming was 10x better

[The Sceneman]

magus needs a fucking enema

[originalz]

Ehrgeiz had the most annoying main menu sound effects in any game that I can think of.

I had the Saturn version of Toshinden URA, not a very good game.  I also bought Virtua Fighter Kids for some reason, I think it was deeply discounted at the time.  Saturn had some decent 3d fighting games but nothing that I'd really want to play again, except to laugh at quality works like LAST BRONX!

[tiesto]

And in the end, the best Toshinden game that came out was the only 2D version ever made, for the Gameboy.

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Only one that played well.

Only game in the series I've played... was actually the first game I downloaded when I downloaded my first Game Boy emu. Pretty fun, reminded me a lot of the Neo Geo Pocket Color fighters.

[tiesto]

fuck ugly early 3d, fuck long-ass loading times, fuck long-ass unskippable story scenes, fuck all old VA that wasn't MGS1, fuck shoehorning rpg systems into every game, fuck padding out game length to compete with 40 hr rpgs, fuck 3d action games before DMC1, fuck 2d vs 3d fanboy arguments, fuck the ps1 era

Isn't most of this shit still going on today

[Positive Touch]

fuck ugly early 3d, fuck long-ass loading times, fuck long-ass unskippable story scenes, fuck all old VA that wasn't MGS1, fuck shoehorning rpg systems into every game, fuck padding out game length to compete with 40 hr rpgs, fuck 3d action games before DMC1, fuck 2d vs 3d fanboy arguments, fuck the ps1 era

TRUTH

PS1 sucked

3DFX gaming was 10x better

PURE3D

6 MEGS OF GRAPHICAL POWER

[Positive Touch]

fuck ugly early 3d, fuck long-ass loading times, fuck long-ass unskippable story scenes, fuck all old VA that wasn't MGS1, fuck shoehorning rpg systems into every game, fuck padding out game length to compete with 40 hr rpgs, fuck 3d action games before DMC1, fuck 2d vs 3d fanboy arguments, fuck the ps1 era

Isn't most of this shit still going on today

graphics look like actual stuff instead of blocky blurry garbage, story scenes are almost always skippable (and no more text-only scenes), va is now passable along with the "camera" directing in most cutscenes, things like weapon and stat upgrades have much more streamlined integration in games, most games aim for a 10-20 hr playtime, action games are fucking awesome and incredibly varied, fanboy arguments are shit forever, and thus games are MUCH MUCH better than they used to be

[cool breeze]

there were more bizarre fighting games around that time, like VF Kids and that Sonic one and Fighters Megamix and Tech Romancer.  not all or any PS1, but still.

btw, I'd totally touch dick for a psychic force xbla

I just realized that next year is 2012.  Perfect time to rerelease Psychic Force 2012. 

[Himu]

Would kill for VF2 xbla.

VF2 almost single handedly sold me a Saturn. Played the shit out of that and Panzer when they came out on my buddy's Saturn.

[tiesto]

graphics look like actual stuff instead of blocky blurry garbage,

story scenes are almost always skippable (and no more text-only scenes),

va is now passable

things like weapon and stat upgrades have much more streamlined integration in games,

most games aim for a 10-20 hr playtime,

Well, to be technical... most games aim for a 4-8 hour playtime. Which would be OK except for the fact you're spending $60 on it!

action games are fucking awesome and incredibly varied,

http://www.cracked.com/article_18973_why-modern-war-fps-games-all-look-same-5Bchart5D.html

And as for "shoehorning RPG elements into every game", not going around anymore?

[Joe Molotov]

know what i miss?

Macho Man Randy Savage.

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[Himu]

graphics look like actual stuff instead of blocky blurry garbage,

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story scenes are almost always skippable (and no more text-only scenes),

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va is now passable

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things like weapon and stat upgrades have much more streamlined integration in games,

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most games aim for a 10-20 hr playtime,

Well, to be technical... most games aim for a 4-8 hour playtime. Which would be OK except for the fact you're spending $60 on it!

action games are fucking awesome and incredibly varied,

http://www.cracked.com/article_18973_why-modern-war-fps-games-all-look-same-5Bchart5D.html

And as for "shoehorning RPG elements into every game", not going around anymore?

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so much ether

[Powerslave]

I miss good rpgs that didn't take them self too seriously. Nowadays rpgs are also ruined with the need for voice acting, too bad most va sucks, and idk but hearing these badly voiced pre-school scripts being read out loud always takes me out of the game. Plain old text will still do for a big part of a rpg imo, if you have to use va limit it with cutscenes and then some.
Also I would love to see world maps back. It's fun exploring planets with airships and boats. I used to imagine next-gen world maps for the ps2 back in the days. And then they abolished the concept forever..
And it also seems to me that too many rpgs are way too battle oriented instead of making battles just a part of a rpg. In some games battling is the half of the game. Rpgs started to suck since the PS2.

[Great Rumbler]

I miss good rpgs that didn't take them self too seriously. Nowadays rpgs are also ruined with the need for voice acting, too bad most va sucks, and idk but hearing these badly voiced pre-school scripts being read out loud always takes me out of the game. Plain old text will still do for a big part of a rpg imo, if you have to use va limit it with cutscenes and then some.
Also I would love to see world maps back. It's fun exploring planets with airships and boats. I used to imagine next-gen world maps for the ps2 back in the days. And then they abolished the concept forever..
And it also seems to me that too many rpgs are way too battle oriented instead of making battles just a part of a rpg. In some games battling is the half of the game. Rpgs started to suck since the PS2.

Like

[Himu]

I miss good rpgs that didn't take them self too seriously. Nowadays rpgs are also ruined with the need for voice acting, too bad most va sucks, and idk but hearing these badly voiced pre-school scripts being read out loud always takes me out of the game. Plain old text will still do for a big part of a rpg imo, if you have to use va limit it with cutscenes and then some.
Also I would love to see world maps back. It's fun exploring planets with airships and boats. I used to imagine next-gen world maps for the ps2 back in the days. And then they abolished the concept forever..
And it also seems to me that too many rpgs are way too battle oriented instead of making battles just a part of a rpg. In some games battling is the half of the game. Rpgs started to suck since the PS2.

Wow, I actually agree with a lot of this. I think that a lot of rpgs have lots of battling, and while I like battling, I do like alternatives.

[demi]

Could go read a book

[Powerslave]

whatever happened to exploring cozy towns and finding hidden sidequests? Mini-games that are fun and play a major part of the game (Hot & Cold from FF9) are also lacking.

[MCD]

Tales of Vesperia
Blue Dragon

[Himu]

whatever happened to exploring cozy towns and finding hidden sidequests? Mini-games that are fun and play a major part of the game (Hot & Cold from FF9) are also lacking.

Tales of Vesperia is great for this. Same for Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey.

[The Sceneman]

powerslave wouldn't know about those games. He brags that he still only has a PS2. He has no right to complain

[naff]

.....FUD

Only thing that post demonstrated was the modern weeaboos ignorance

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I think the PS2 slaughtered the PSX.  While the PSX had some great game concepts, it lacked the technology to see it through.  The PS2 allowed it to happen, which is why there are so many great games on the system, in terms of both quality and quantity.  I think most 32 bit 3D games are near unplayable these days.  Some good ideas but there are very few that weren't successfully or better reproduced on successor consoles.

Anyway, yes, Blue Dragon is a great game.  Probably the most underrated JRPG this generation.  It's the only PSX/PS2 era styled JRPG for the modern consoles.  If you want any more of them, you're pretty much dependent on the PSP for new releases of RPGs in that vein, considering the odds of Blue Dragon 2 for 360 is nil.

[Positive Touch]

.....FUD

Only thing that post demonstrated was the modern weeaboos ignorance

i was about to say

the shit i described was the norm back in the day.  games nowadays still play similar to what they did when developers moved to 3d, but they've made HUGE improvements over everything i described, making games more streamlined and thus more fun.

of course a weeaboo might not notice this because they spend all their time playing games from devs that are stuck in the past gen

[OptimoPeach]

I think the PS2 slaughtered the PSX.  While the PSX had some great game concepts, it lacked the technology to see it through.  The PS2 allowed it to happen, which is why there are so many great games on the system, in terms of both quality and quantity.  I think most 32 bit 3D games are near unplayable these days.  Some good ideas but there are very few that weren't successfully or better reproduced on successor consoles.

YES. That terrible, awkward transition from beautiful 16-bit 2D to ugly 32-bit 3D kills so many PSX games for me. Like I'd be embarrassed to list all the PSX "classics" I have yet to play that I missed back in the day

[Positive Touch]

I think the PS2 slaughtered the PSX.  While the PSX had some great game concepts, it lacked the technology to see it through. 

yes, exactly

i've always compared the ps1 to the nes because both were revolutionary but the tech combined with the developer's -- erm, how should i say it?  not lack of skill but lack of good ideas to draw off of because everything was still so new -- hobbled both systems.  the snes and ps2 are idely considered the best consoles because they just improved on the previous gen's games.

[Himu]

I think the PS2 slaughtered the PSX.  While the PSX had some great game concepts, it lacked the technology to see it through.  The PS2 allowed it to happen, which is why there are so many great games on the system, in terms of both quality and quantity.  I think most 32 bit 3D games are near unplayable these days.  Some good ideas but there are very few that weren't successfully or better reproduced on successor consoles.

YES. That terrible, awkward transition from beautiful 16-bit 2D to ugly 32-bit 3D kills so many PSX games for me. Like I'd be embarrassed to list all the PSX "classics" I have yet to play that I missed back in the day

poster probably has not played suikoden II and arc the lad 2, hence the use of "classic". Also, many square rpgs are still great today and look pretty damn good on a psp screen.

[OptimoPeach]

I think the PS2 slaughtered the PSX.  While the PSX had some great game concepts, it lacked the technology to see it through.  The PS2 allowed it to happen, which is why there are so many great games on the system, in terms of both quality and quantity.  I think most 32 bit 3D games are near unplayable these days.  Some good ideas but there are very few that weren't successfully or better reproduced on successor consoles.

YES. That terrible, awkward transition from beautiful 16-bit 2D to ugly 32-bit 3D kills so many PSX games for me. Like I'd be embarrassed to list all the PSX "classics" I have yet to play that I missed back in the day

poster probably has not played suikoden II and arc the lad 2, hence the use of "classic".

I've played both, but I sure don't remember either of them being 3D

[Himu]

Sounds to me, Powerslave needs to play handheld rpgs. They got exploration, little voice acting, and rarely take themselves seriously.

I think the PS2 slaughtered the PSX.  While the PSX had some great game concepts, it lacked the technology to see it through.  The PS2 allowed it to happen, which is why there are so many great games on the system, in terms of both quality and quantity.  I think most 32 bit 3D games are near unplayable these days.  Some good ideas but there are very few that weren't successfully or better reproduced on successor consoles.

YES. That terrible, awkward transition from beautiful 16-bit 2D to ugly 32-bit 3D kills so many PSX games for me. Like I'd be embarrassed to list all the PSX "classics" I have yet to play that I missed back in the day

poster probably has not played suikoden II and arc the lad 2, hence the use of "classic".

I've played both, but I sure don't remember either of them being 3D

I'd actually wager that rpgs back in the psx days that are 3d are lot better than 3d games of other genres, but 3d rpgs aren't really dependent on physics or anything. so unless you're a graphic whore, psx 3d rpgs really aren't that bad in any regard and you can find games with equal amount of depth (vagrant story for instance) on the psx as you can find on the psx.

both are great systems when it comes to rpgs, though.

[Himu]

Hmmm. Looking at my psx collection now and...

3d psx games I think still hold up:

- Ridge Racer 4
- any and all Wipeout games
- Metal Gear Solid (shame about the aiming)
- Metal Gear Solid VR Missions
- Soul Reaver
- Tony Hawk
- Crash
- Spyro
- Resident Evil games
- Dino Crisis games
- Fear Effect
- Crash Team Racing
- Tomba 2
- Final Fantasy games
- Chrono Cross
- Brave Fencer Musashi
- Vagrant Story
- Mega Man Legends games
- Tron Bonne
- Threads of Fate
- Intelligent Qube
- Devil Dice
- Jumping Flash
- Ghost in the Shell
- Omega Boost
- Pepsiman
- Incredible Crisis
- No One Can Stop Mr. Domino
- Ore no Ryouri
- Ape Escape
- Jet Moto
- Parappa the Rapper
- Um Jammer Lammy
- Medieval
- Tiny Tank

Most, if not all of these primarily feature 3d.

I think it's very overstated to say that psx games don't hold up these days, particularly the 3d ones. That's not to say ALL of them hold up, which is ridiculous, but I find that many that were good then are still great now.

In fact, these games right here are a big part why psx is my favorite system but different strokes.

[Himu]

you are knocking my psx collection.

nobody knocks my psx collection.