Vita Thread

[Brehvolution]

From what I hear, Sony isn't even advertising the damn thing yet in America?

This is going to be a barbecue.

I see the Taco Bell Vita commercials all the time. They don't say what it is though.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I can't wait for this turkey to come out and just fail right out of the gate

[Great Rumbler]

I can't wait for this turkey to come out and just fail right out of the gate

The Vita is ALREADY DEAD.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

wow that was so funny the 50th time i heard it today 

the vita won't flop. if the 3ds managed to do well in america the vite will do even better, and it's smart releasing a system near tax rebate time so that people have "free" money.

[Bebpo]

One argument I heard is that Sony knows the system is going to flop in the US and so they don't want to waste money advertising it.

The question then is why they MADE the system in that case.  But oh well.


As a gamer, I'm glad Vita exists because it looks fuck awesome ultimate portable machine and because the game library gets me hot and sweaty.  But it's probably delegated to be another Saturn/Dreamcast/first 3 years of PSP with a handful of awesome niche games and dies after a couple of years.  Unless it makes a comeback like the PSP, but it's too early and impossible to predict the likelihood of what will happen 2-3 years down the line.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

they're waiting till it out to push a huge marketing compaign, they're going the apple route. Sony is expecting prolonged life long sales, not this big initial rush, because most people who get it on day 1 are hardcores. advertising it when it's out is better.

[Sho Nuff]

For Vita I'll be there on day one

spoiler (click to show/hide)

of the price drop

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[Tasty]

if the 3ds managed to do well in america the vite will do even better

I don't think Vita will do that horribly, it may end up having an OK first year, but it's not coming anywhere close to the 3DS.

[Bebpo]

For Vita I'll be there on day one

spoiler (click to show/hide)

of the price drop

[close]

Don't see them dropping the price any time soon tbh.  Sony would rather lose money and fail like usual for a few years first.

[Sho Nuff]

No problem with that, I'm a patient man

I'm still waiting for the Wii price to drop enough that I wouldn't feel guilty about buying one

[maxy]

3DS is $150 at Gamestop and Newegg

Nintendo is not playing around

[MCD]

Not buying till they release a Lite edition. It better come with that 2nd analog too.

And I'm thinking of selling my PSP GO and getting this Vita cheese. Decisions decisions. 

[MCD]

Not buying till they release a Lite edition. It better come with that 2nd analog too.

And I'm thinking of selling my PSP GO and getting this Vita cheese. Decisions decisions. 

Well, still a couple of weeks to go until launch, but it's looking like a lot of notable PSP games that are available on the digital store aren't compatible with the Vita.  Stuff I and others have noticed missing: every GTA game, Ghost of Sparta, Valkyria 2, LittleBigPlanet, Tomb Raider Anniversary, Metal Gear Peace Walker, Ys I&II, and more.

gg Sony as always

Welp, here goes that thought.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

That is pureply FUD, theyre not available because it's not out yet. All those games work in japan (except GTA I think).

[MyNameIsMethodis]

that said if parappa doesn't work on launch sony can go fuck itself

[MyNameIsMethodis]

look at me while i cry about games i had no intention of playing in the first place and just wanted a easy catalyst to troll a great system oh guess who am I~~~

[pilonv1]

look at me while i cry about games i had no intention of playing in the first place and just wanted a easy catalyst to troll a great system oh guess who am I~~~

sometimes it pays not to have methodis on ignore

[maxy]

Gamespot UK is having fun

http://www.gamespot.com/features/one-month-with-the-playstation-vita-what-went-wrong-6349986/

smartphone this
smartphone that
 

[pilonv1]

It's a valid argument, however he has made no attempt to justify it with anything coherent.

[bork]

It's a valid argument, however he has made no attempt to justify it with anything coherent.

I hope he said the same thing about the 3DS then.

The Vita is too big to be a cell phone anyway.

[SantaC]

The problem is the library of games. Nintendos has mario, zeldas, mario kart and what not that always sells while Sony has their usual god of war, ridge racer, spin off gta, spinoff final fantasy that people are tired of / not interested in.

[maxy]

Easy solution

Rockstar makes GTA 5 Vita exclusive,sold for $5 of course.$5 GTA 3 is already there as a shining example of "more than just cheap thrills" iphone games category,so why not...
......

[Stoney Mason]

I think the games for it are fine for a traditional hardcore handheld device. The problem is that market is contracting, at least in the US. There's nothing really wrong with that gamespot piece outside of the fact that it probably doesn't belong on gamespot. Traditional hardcore gaming outlets were slow to recognize and cover the rise of these devices.

The Vita is a nice piece of hardware entering the market at an unfortunate time.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

i was just trollin 

[MyNameIsMethodis]

that was supposed to be this smiley 

[Bebpo]

I think the games for it are fine for a traditional hardcore handheld device. The problem is that market is contracting, at least in the US. There's nothing really wrong with that gamespot piece outside of the fact that it probably doesn't belong on gamespot. Traditional hardcore gaming outlets were slow to recognize and cover the rise of these devices.

The Vita is a nice piece of hardware entering the market at an unfortunate time.

That market never existed in the US.  From what I can tell, US gamers don't care about portable gaming for "real" games.  They don't travel a lot in non-driving commutes and there isn't much of a need to have a traditional game away from the home and the big screen tv.  Nintendo portables do well because they do great with kids and parents.

These days people game traditional games at home on the big screen setup and on the go they play little iOS/Android app games in 2 min bursts.

Unfortunately there's never been and never really will be a market in the west for big screen gaming on the go.  It's niche at best.  In Japan where people tend to commute by trains instead of cars it makes a lot more sense.

[SantaC]

portables are more than just driving to the next community. They are used on the toilet and in bed.

[Bebpo]

People don't want traditional gaming on a toilet usually.  Unless they plan to be there for a long time!

[Stoney Mason]

portables are more than just driving to the next community. They are used on the toilet and in bed.

That's where the contraction is happening. People who do that now use laptops, tablets, or touches in those situations. Which leaves the kids market. But $250 bucks is a lot to invest in kids especially when a 3DS is sitting there cheaper and it has mario.


It's not like I think the vita will just disappear. It won't. Japan alone insures that. I just don't think outside of hardcore portable circles it will be very relevant. That being said if/when it gets a call of duty game I might get one. 

COD in bed is good idea.

[Bebpo]

CoD in bed would cause a lot of unhappy spouses! 

[SantaC]

I used to play some ds on the shitter.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

We're still in a recession.  Buying a $250 gaming handheld that isn't a smartphone or a tablet is a tall order.  Couple that with the lack of Mario or Mario Kart type games to kickstart any lagging momentum if need be and you have a system teetering on the edge of colossal failure.

[Himu]

Well, still a couple of weeks to go until launch, but it's looking like a lot of notable PSP games that are available on the digital store aren't compatible with the Vita.  Stuff I and others have noticed missing: every GTA game, Ghost of Sparta, Valkyria 2, LittleBigPlanet, Tomb Raider Anniversary, Metal Gear Peace Walker, Ys I&II, and more.

gg Sony as always

Oh my fucking GOD.

 

I really need a full list. I don't care about those except the lack of Chinatown Wars, Ys 1&2, which I have bought on psn but was waiting for Vita to play it. I even bought TiTS so I can play it on my Vita whenever I get one.

This is a massive blow for me.

[Trent Dole]

No Drac X Chronicles emulation on Vita kind of points me towards just getting a regular ass PSP when they drop to flatout $100 shortly and waiting on the new hotness.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

games not on list working:


Working
Half-Minute Hero
Dissidia
Dissidia 012
Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker
Archer Maclean's Mercury
Ape Escape on the Loose
Capcom Puzzle World
Darkstalker Chronicles
God of War: Ghost of Sparta
Hot Shots Golf: Open Tee
Killzone Liberation
LittleBigPlanet
Locoroco 2
Megaman Maverick Hunter
Mercury Meltdown
Patapon 2
PQ
Persuit Force
Ratchet and Clank Size Matters
Sonic Rivals
Sonic Rivals 2
Syphon Filter: Logans Shadow
Ultimate Ghosts'n'Goblins


i think they didn't list things not 100%

[MyNameIsMethodis]

valkyria chroniles 2 works too

[MyNameIsMethodis]

can't wait for a console future led by "stagnate is our goal" nintendo and "alienate our customers and nickel and dime them" microsoft 

[Himu]

If Sony goes under I hope we get a Samsung line of game systems.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

just got my Hot Shots from amazon and WOW @ how small the cases are. look real nice and not silly like regular game cases.

size comp

[Brehvolution]

The cases could be 1/10th the size of that too for what's inside.

[bork]

Amazon says I won't get Hotshots until the 13th, but right now the 32GB memory card I ordered is showing as being shipped for delivery tomorrow.  Wonder if that will change.

Don't have many U.S. games ordered right now.  Just Lumines, Hotshots, Ridge Racer, and Shinobido 2.  May end up buying the U.S. BlazBlue for all the story stuff (it has the story modes for CT, CS, and CSE), not sure.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

it said my 16 gig shipped but then it stopped shipping so . oh well it sucks havin this sititng in my drawer until the 22nd

[MyNameIsMethodis]

so tiny 

[bork]

Yup, and the memory cards are even smaller!

I figure I'll try Hot Shots for thirty bucks, but in the past I haven't been able to get into them very much.

[Brehvolution]

[img]https://p.twimg.com/AlTd3vxCEAENrLK.jpg[img]

so tiny 

Better game too.

[Bebpo]

Amazon says I won't get Hotshots until the 13th, but right now the 32GB memory card I ordered is showing as being shipped for delivery tomorrow.  Wonder if that will change.

Don't have many U.S. games ordered right now.  Just Lumines, Hotshots, Ridge Racer, and Shinobido 2.  May end up buying the U.S. BlazBlue for all the story stuff (it has the story modes for CT, CS, and CSE), not sure.

Yeah, I'm thinking about getting Blazblue to have a 2d sprite based game on Vita to see how nice they look.  Either that or double dipping on Rayman Origins.

Did you get UMVC3? 

[Tasty]

Nintendo's home consoles aren't worth a shit

If Sony gets out of games or whatever Japan will basically just go to Nintendo -- which they've been doing anyways since Nintendo is in full moneyhat mode.

Personally I like the trifecta of consoles we have now. Going down to two wouldn't be so bad, though.

If Sony goes under I hope we get a Samsung line of game systems.

RIP Jungle :'(

[Bebpo]

Alright, caved on Blazblue.  Also ordered a 2nd memory card of 16gigs for US PSN games over the years.

Current launch order:
System
4 gig stick
16 gig stick

Little Deviants
BlazBlue
Uncharted
Wipeout
Hot Shots
Katamari
Tales of Innocence R
Good People Die
Super Stardust 2 PSN

Thinking about importing Gravity Daze since there's still no info on when it's coming out on the US and if it's digital only like Europe. 

I want to buy Virtua Tennis 4 but Amazon isn't even listing it still wtf.  Don't want to pay tax & shipping :|

Will pick up Army Corps of Hell (looks derivative, but it's pikmin staff), Shinobido 2, and maybe DW Next when they price drop.

[cool breeze]

I'm just getting the wi-fi system, 16 gig stick, and Shinobido 2.

I was about to go for the 3G system and ace the 16 gig, but Amazon decided not to have release date delivery.  That's enough of a reason to avoid spending extra on features I'll never use because I have a phone.

honestly if it wasn't for Shinobido 2 and Gravity Daze I'd probably pass on the Vita at launch, but those are two games I really want.  In general, I mean.  Not just reasons to play with a new toy.  And there aren't that many games I'm really excited about (in general, again).

[Shaka Khan]

But it's different this time around Oscar-San! Nintendo's bending its preset rules and values to appeal to third parties with the Wii U!

Just ask Iwata asks!

[MyNameIsMethodis]

i wish we could outlaw the obvious trolls from this thread this should be about how great the vita is

[MyNameIsMethodis]

it will be glorious.

[Tasty]

i wish we could outlaw the obvious trolls from this thread this should be about how great the vita is

Me? Are you talking about me?

If Sony gets out of games or whatever Japan will basically just go to Nintendo -- which they've been doing anyways since Nintendo is in full moneyhat mode.

I disagree.  We've seen some publishers get bought over to Nintendo's *handhelds* - that's a different proposition from getting them on-board with a Nintendo home console.  Third parties are pretty strongly convinced at this point that there is very little money to be found in being on Nintendo's home platforms.  Whether that's true or not is irrelevant because the perception is what dictates the outcome here.

Case in point - earlier this gen when the PS3 and 360 were doing shitty numbers in Japan, did the Japanese games companies go to the Wii?  No, they didn't.  They moved Japan-focused things to the handhelds and hedged their bets on international sales of everything else.  So if Sony happened to bail out on the video games market, I very much expect the benefactors would be Nintendo's handheld and Microsoft's home console.  If Nintendo's home console at that time is up to snuff for receiving multiplat versions, it would likely receive a good chunk of them, but certainly not all and most everything would be leading on MS's console.

These companies don't like to work with Nintendo.  I hope you've picked up on that by now.  Nintendo is a royal pain in the ass to deal with professionally no matter what kind of work you have to do with them, and it's rarely worth it because of the purchase patterns of the typical Nintendo console buyer.  It's hard to get a fair picture from the Wii because of how things went down, but look at the Gamecube.  It got almost all of the same multiplat games the Xbox and PS2 did, initially, and the quality of the ports were generally quite good.  And yet, those games sold significantly worse on the Gamecube than they did on the Xbox, even when their install bases were similar.  Why?  It's a mystery, and third parties are generally disinclined to spend the money and energy solving it when they have simpler alternatives.

Maybe. I don't deny any of that. But well, Capcom and Square have gotten over themselves when it comes to Nintendo. If Sony were gone obviously Nintendo handhelds would benefit the most, but that would just get devs used to the Nintendo ecosystem and working with them. If a Japanese publisher then wanted to make a console game, who would they go with? Someone in their own backyard they've had experience working with due to their handhelds, or some baka gaijin white man company whose only comparable mobile offering (WP7) is floundering like a fish?

[Positive Touch]

microsoft, since people actually buy games on their console in the international market

and come on, capcom and square give wierdo spinoffs to wii and save the big-budget stuff for ps3 & 360.

[Tasty]

microsoft, since people actually buy games on their console in the international market

and come on, capcom and square give wierdo spinoffs to wii and save the big-budget stuff for ps3 & 360.

MH3 and DQX say high.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

they wouldnt support microsoft because their games do horrible on that paltform compared to Sony

[Positive Touch]

microsoft, since people actually buy games on their console in the international market

and come on, capcom and square give wierdo spinoffs to wii and save the big-budget stuff for ps3 & 360.

MH3 and DQX say high.

final fantasy, deus ex, tomb raider, dead rising, resident evil, marvel vs capcom, etc say HI

[Tasty]

microsoft, since people actually buy games on their console in the international market

and come on, capcom and square give wierdo spinoffs to wii and save the big-budget stuff for ps3 & 360.

MH3 and DQX say high.

final fantasy, deus ex, tomb raider, dead rising, resident evil, marvel vs capcom, etc say HI

Wii is dead obviously. Doesn't matter. 3DS got RER and SF4 3D. I think Wii U will be in a much better position for ports, and combined with Nintendo's moneyhats, who knows?

[Bebpo]

I'm just getting the wi-fi system, 16 gig stick, and Shinobido 2.

I was about to go for the 3G system and ace the 16 gig, but Amazon decided not to have release date delivery.  That's enough of a reason to avoid spending extra on features I'll never use because I have a phone.

honestly if it wasn't for Shinobido 2 and Gravity Daze I'd probably pass on the Vita at launch, but those are two games I really want.  In general, I mean.  Not just reasons to play with a new toy.  And there aren't that many games I'm really excited about (in general, again).

Originally, Shinobido 2 was one of the few games I really wanted.  But the impressions I've seen have been less than positive.  Doesn't seem like something I'd play more than a few days, so not going to pick it up at full price :\

[Van Cruncheon]

holy shit, the vita is BONER ACADEMY, best hardware ever

however, why the fuck can't japan design os user interfaces