Author Topic: Vita Thread (Read 804684 times)

demi · « **Reply #3000 on:** September 29, 2012, 04:44:51 PM »

I'll get Vita at $100.

I'd play... uh

Uncharted I guess

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #3001 on:** September 29, 2012, 09:32:41 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 29, 2012, 06:52:18 PM

They could have spent a billion dollars marketing the thing in the US and it wouldn't have changed the outcome.

The Vita has many problems, but problem Alpha is that it is a product for a market that does not exist. You can't market your way out of that. SCEA was handed a sure-failure product for their market. Not throwing good money after bad by marketing was probably the smartest thing they've done with the Vita.

But what about the 3DS? That was a big pile of crap that even Andrex didn't want, but Nintendo just kept pushing that turdburger on an unwilling market until finally we all said OKAY WE'LL BUY ONE, GEEZ!

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #3002 on:** September 30, 2012, 07:40:41 AM »

the other big issue is how Sony handle their own first parties. It's a case of "so - are you going to make a Vita game? No? Oh... okay"

That's a huge difference - if you don't have -most- your 1st party teams hammering out games then how the hell do you convince 3rd parties that you mean seriuz bisznuts?

Nintendo do this - it's a massive statement of intent from both sides.

Takao · « **Reply #3003 on:** September 30, 2012, 10:01:15 PM »

hey man i played those psp games and love them

rip syphon filter

bork · « **Reply #3004 on:** September 30, 2012, 10:41:02 PM »

Back to LBP now that it's officially out and the network component is up and running. Some of the outfits I bought on PSN don't work on the Vita version. No Street Fighter Sackboy for me.

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Sony's PlayStation Vita will receive a price cut next year, according to Sony UK boss Fergal Gara.

The executive confirmed at the Eurogamer Expo that a price reduction is coming in 2013, but precisely when it will be introduced is "still under discussion".

http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a409202/playstation-vita-price-cut-coming-next-year-says-sony.html

Wouldn't it make sense to do this for the holiday season?

Takao · « **Reply #3005 on:** September 30, 2012, 11:09:54 PM »

Not if they haven't been able to cut component costs. I dunno why that guy said that though.

demi · « **Reply #3006 on:** September 30, 2012, 11:16:08 PM »

Little King's Story should be decent. I mean you cant screw that up right?

And that Zero Escape should be good. Even though I feigned hatred to it, I want to play that one.

Purple Filth · « **Reply #3007 on:** September 30, 2012, 11:16:38 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 30, 2012, 09:59:48 PM

It's definitely a problem, and I don't know if Sony doesn't see how the game is played or just doesn't want to play it. Like, taking Nintendo as an example, Tokyo EAD made a 3DS game. Hey, that's the Super Mario Galaxy guys! Making a 3DS game! Awesome!

Was it the same staff as Mario Galaxy? Was it even most of the staff? I don't think so. A few key people and fill out the rest with whoever. At the end of the day, you can still say it was Tokyo EAD.

You don't have to take all of the Uncharted 2 guys and have them make an Uncharted game for the thing. But put together a smaller B-team within ND (hey, the Uncharted 3 guys are already this), have a few key people supervise, and now you can say "Yes, Naughty Dog made an Uncharted game for the Vita." That's a much more powerful symbol than "Uncharted, from the makers of those good PSP games almost nobody played!"But if we sat here picking at obvious problems in Sony's judgement, we'd be here all day. Their engineers delivered above and beyond with the Vita. More the pity the rest of the company couldn't be arsed to even half-try.

I'm baffled they didn't do this in the fucking first place and let Sony Bend do their own thing or even get some ND guys/some Bend guys as a hybrid team but place the ND guys at the forefront.

Its even more hilarious since comments from ND claimed that one of the reasons they did last of us is to keep their employees challenged but yet couldn't make a fucking game for a new handheld

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #3008 on:** September 30, 2012, 11:22:41 PM »

Quote from: Takao on September 30, 2012, 10:01:15 PM

hey man i played those psp games and love them

rip syphon filter

Yeah the Syphon games on PSP were fuckin sick

demi · « **Reply #3009 on:** September 30, 2012, 11:51:37 PM »

They were marred iwth the doodoo PSP scheme which made them not fun to play

Tasty · « **Reply #3010 on:** October 01, 2012, 12:14:16 AM »

Quote from: Sho Nuff on September 30, 2012, 11:22:41 PM

Quote from: Takao on September 30, 2012, 10:01:15 PM
hey man i played those psp games and love them

rip syphon filter

Yeah the Syphon games on PSP were fuckin sick

More like they made you fuckin sick.

Owl-faced Wizard · « **Reply #3011 on:** October 01, 2012, 12:25:15 AM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 30, 2012, 11:16:36 PM

It depends on how much they'd be losing with the price drop. Probably better for the system's long-term future to drop before the holidays, which is really what they should worry about if they aren't planning on writing it off next year. If they aren't considering the long-term future, then it's better to reap the holiday sales at the higher price.

They're relaunching early next year with a drop to 199 and PSO2/SS/GE2 etc. Book it. In the west, a price drop with a CoD/AC or UC bundle? idk

Momo · « **Reply #3012 on:** October 01, 2012, 12:59:44 AM »

Didnt they talk of rebooting Syphon Filter for the big stage sometime recently? I used to like the Gabe vs David vs Sam thing going on, made all three games jump up in quality.

Momo · « **Reply #3013 on:** October 01, 2012, 01:16:35 AM »

Really? I got the impression a lot of people were in the Gabe camp when it came to that fight. Personally I was in the David camp. That's really sad about it being dead, but then again we already had a "death of gabe logan" so I can deal.

Himu · « **Reply #3014 on:** October 01, 2012, 01:17:48 AM »

Playing Syphon Filter with my little cousin.

Bebpo · « **Reply #3015 on:** October 01, 2012, 01:20:18 AM »

I had a really awesome Lumines Vita session this morning. When you're in the groove, Lumines is a great zone out game.

Himu · « **Reply #3016 on:** October 01, 2012, 01:21:31 AM »

I feel ya, Bebpo. One time I was playing Pinball Arcade in church, I never got a higher score than I did in church. Got over 20 million on table in a few tries, tried it later and couldn't get past 8 million. Have you considered converting to Christianity?

Purple Filth · « **Reply #3017 on:** October 01, 2012, 01:49:23 AM »

Quote from: Momo on October 01, 2012, 01:16:35 AM

Really? I got the impression a lot of people were in the Gabe camp when it came to that fight. Personally I was in the David camp. That's really sad about it being dead, but then again we already had a "death of gabe logan" so I can deal.

Yea official quotes painted the picture of it being dead but rumors still swirled about a PS3 version.

I think Bend doing a Uncharted game could have been seen as the final nail in the coffin though

archnemesis · « **Reply #3018 on:** October 01, 2012, 02:09:18 AM »

The biggest issue with Lumines is the long play sessions. You need to play for 30 minutes before it gets challenging. I wish they added something similar to Super Stardust's endless mode.

Momo · « **Reply #3019 on:** October 01, 2012, 03:34:02 AM »

Eh, didn't realize it had abysmal sales, suspected it though. From a gameplay point of view many people liked Gabe though, and I cant blame them the games were ace mostly.

maxy · « **Reply #3020 on:** October 01, 2012, 04:30:53 AM »

Sony(John Koller) has a solution...10 year life-cycle

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“We’re in year one, so we’ll be supporting it for some time. But yeah, it does have its own 10-year life cycle. All of our platforms do… it’s a marathon, not a sprint. We expect long-term success from all our platforms.”

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2012/09/30/sony-exec-i-feel-great-about-whats-coming

Takao · « **Reply #3021 on:** October 01, 2012, 09:09:03 AM »

Koller is one of those really bad spin doctors you thought Sony laid off but haven't. I'm pretty sure he once said PSP was experiencing year over year growth in North America ... in 2010. Ignore what that man says.

Back to Syphon Filter, supposedly Garvin once said even Resistance: Retribution outsold the PSP iterations of SF. That's not say Resistance: Retribution is a bad game (because it's not, and it did some things online wise that we've yet to see anyone attempt to do on Vita) but it's pretty sad to see their own IP be outsold by Insomniac's generic shooter franchise.

And yeah, I agree that SCE should've forced Naughty Dog to make a Vita game. What Oscar has been saying (the small team dedicated towards handheld development while a big team works on console games) is what Media Molecule is doing right now. Tearaway is being developed by a smaller team within that studio while the rest are presumably working on a new IP for PS4. But Media Molecule wasn't forced to do that do, from what the people there said they wanted to make a handheld game, and it seems SCE's big studios will only work on a handheld title if they want to ...

bork · « **Reply #3022 on:** October 01, 2012, 01:09:42 PM »

Oboro Muramasa looks like...Oboro Muramasa.

Momo · « **Reply #3023 on:** October 01, 2012, 03:50:05 PM »

Speaking of Vanillaware, is Dragon's crown still a thing?

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #3024 on:** October 01, 2012, 03:58:41 PM »

Quote from: Momo on October 01, 2012, 03:50:05 PM

Speaking of Vanillaware, is Dragon's crown still a thing?

Yeah, it got pushed back to 2013 after Atlus took over publishing duties from UTV Ignition Games.

Tasty · « **Reply #3025 on:** October 01, 2012, 09:46:18 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 01, 2012, 09:06:04 PM

Quote from: bork laser on October 01, 2012, 01:09:42 PM
Oboro Muramasa looks like...Oboro Muramasa.

So it looks like a mediocre game that people only cared about due to the absolute dearth of anything better?

Should be right at home on Vita.

Hey!

Don't forget dem grafix!

Trent Dole · « **Reply #3026 on:** October 01, 2012, 10:24:39 PM »

I liked Muramasa. Of course when I got it my 360 was in need of repair so yeah...

Momo · « **Reply #3027 on:** October 01, 2012, 11:59:29 PM »

Isnt muramasa wii only?

Momo · « **Reply #3028 on:** October 02, 2012, 03:43:06 AM »

I totally misread Trents post, my mistake.

Owl-faced Wizard · « **Reply #3029 on:** October 02, 2012, 03:46:17 AM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 01, 2012, 09:06:04 PM

Quote from: bork laser on October 01, 2012, 01:09:42 PM
Oboro Muramasa looks like...Oboro Muramasa.

So it looks like a mediocre game that people only cared about due to the absolute dearth of anything better?

Didn't stop people caring about the Vanillaware games on PS2. Muramasa is also probably the best thing they put out, though that's probably not saying all that much.
I think it will look great on the Vita and they'll probably fix the controls too so hey.

bork · « **Reply #3030 on:** October 02, 2012, 10:27:58 AM »

Did anyone play the Japanese or Asian version of Ragnarok Odyssey? I watched some videos recently and it looked a lot worse than I remember the footage being.

Quote from: Owl-faced Wizard on October 02, 2012, 03:46:17 AM

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 01, 2012, 09:06:04 PM
Quote from: bork laser on October 01, 2012, 01:09:42 PM
Oboro Muramasa looks like...Oboro Muramasa.

So it looks like a mediocre game that people only cared about due to the absolute dearth of anything better?
Didn't stop people caring about the Vanillaware games on PS2. Muramasa is also probably the best thing they put out, though that's probably not saying all that much.
I think it will look great on the Vita and they'll probably fix the controls too so hey.

Whereas I quickly dropped Odin Sphere, I thought Muramasa was fun enough on the Wii to play through Kisuke's story. I'll replay it on Vita for Momohime's story at the least, and yeah...maybe they will improve the controls a bit (which were decent with the classic controller).

I'm way more interested in Dragon's Crown...if that ever comes out.

archnemesis · « **Reply #3031 on:** October 02, 2012, 11:28:59 AM »

I had a lot more fun with GrimGrimoire than with Odin Sphere.

maxy · « **Reply #3032 on:** October 02, 2012, 11:55:54 AM »

http://wololo.net/2012/10/01/vita-cfw-leaked-coldbird-leaves-the-scene/

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What matters for now is that a PSP Kernel exploit, as well as a CFW relying on it, fully working on the PS Vita, was leaked 2 days ago by a “Sam Jordam” guy on Youtube (download links below).

This device might be of some use to me afterall

bork · « **Reply #3033 on:** October 02, 2012, 01:50:43 PM »

But that's just for the same ol' PSP -not Vita- stuff, right?

Not worth bothering with.

Takao · « **Reply #3034 on:** October 02, 2012, 09:16:47 PM »

Quote from: bork laser on October 02, 2012, 10:27:58 AM

Did anyone play the Japanese or Asian version of Ragnarok Odyssey? I watched some videos recently and it looked a lot worse than I remember the footage being.

I've played through the Japanese demo. Are you talking about the visuals?

bork · « **Reply #3035 on:** October 03, 2012, 12:01:10 AM »

maxy · « **Reply #3036 on:** October 03, 2012, 03:04:03 AM »

Takao · « **Reply #3037 on:** October 03, 2012, 12:08:25 PM »

Quote from: bork laser on October 03, 2012, 12:01:10 AM

Yup.

The character models are nice, but the environments are pretty PSP level.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #3038 on:** October 04, 2012, 05:21:49 PM »

is this real

Purple Filth · « **Reply #3039 on:** October 04, 2012, 05:30:43 PM »

Quote from: Thomas Householmes Lane on October 04, 2012, 05:21:49 PM

is this real

(Image removed from quote.)

Yea since a software now exists that gives access to PSP ISO loading on Vita but its still in the PSP "sandbox".

It also needs a specific game to run this exploit and Sony has already removed the game.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #3040 on:** October 04, 2012, 08:50:36 PM »

dat sux

Takao · « **Reply #3041 on:** October 04, 2012, 09:23:30 PM »

Retro City Rampage is next week

Trent Dole · « **Reply #3042 on:** October 09, 2012, 11:06:00 PM »

JAPAN

bork · « **Reply #3043 on:** October 16, 2012, 06:56:25 PM »

Jet Set Radio got delayed to an unknown date. :'(

Owl-faced Wizard · « **Reply #3044 on:** October 16, 2012, 07:00:47 PM »

Even the ports are getting cancelled :'(

bork · « **Reply #3045 on:** October 16, 2012, 07:45:32 PM »

Quote from: Owl-faced Wizard on October 16, 2012, 07:00:47 PM

Even the ports are getting cancelled :'(

Yeah, I like that Sega waited until the release date to announce they pushed it back.

I've been waiting for SFxTekken, which comes out next week, for like a year- watch them push it back again.

$:-\$

bork · « **Reply #3046 on:** October 16, 2012, 11:44:52 PM »

You'd think they would have announced it when they didn't submit the game for approval. $:-\$

Takao · « **Reply #3047 on:** October 24, 2012, 03:30:22 AM »

Despite not understanding more than 3 words in Japanese I have embarked on Little Battlers eXperience W. I'm seemingly making progress with my fool proof strategy of talking to every NPC available and hoping it triggers an event!

archnemesis · « **Reply #3048 on:** October 24, 2012, 03:32:47 AM »

That looks like it could be fun. It's a shame that more games aren't being localized.

Takao · « **Reply #3049 on:** October 24, 2012, 04:16:27 AM »

I'm sure it will be localized ... on 3DS.

They're just waiting for the TV show to get a US broadcast partner I suppose. They have toy license deals done for both EU and NA already. The problem was that the first game was on PSP, and releasing that in the west in 2012 and beyond is suicide. So they ported that to 3DS. The sequel however is PSP/Vita. I'm sure Level-5 and Tri-Ace will also be porting that to 3DS, lol.

archnemesis · « **Reply #3050 on:** October 24, 2012, 05:04:17 AM »

I forgot it was a Level 5 game. That makes it a lot less exciting.

Takao · « **Reply #3051 on:** October 24, 2012, 05:05:22 AM »

This one's developed by Tri-Ace.

Depending on your preferences that may sweeten the deal, or make it completely poisoned lol.

archnemesis · « **Reply #3052 on:** October 24, 2012, 05:08:34 AM »

Oh, I like Tri-Ace! Except for the Star Ocean games.

bork · « **Reply #3053 on:** October 24, 2012, 08:18:00 AM »

Good amount of Vita games coming out this and next week:

Frobisher Says!
Orgarhythm
Smart as...
Street Fighter X Tekken
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Splitz
Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward
DJ Max Technika Tune
Assassin's Creed III: Liberation
LEGO The Lord of the Rings
Need for Speed: Most Wanted
Ragnarok Odyssey
Sixty Second Shooter Deluxe

Feels like the system has support...for one week only!

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #3054 on:** October 24, 2012, 09:33:30 AM »

i wish someone would review monkey ball i love moneiy ball

originalz · « **Reply #3055 on:** October 25, 2012, 02:56:10 AM »

I'll review it for you despite not even playing it:

It sucks, just like every other game in the franchise since SMB2.

Takao · « **Reply #3056 on:** October 25, 2012, 04:36:53 AM »

The reviews for Monkey Ball Vita were alright. It appear it's not an amazing game by any means but no where near as offensively bad as the 3DS one was. It's received a lot of 6/7/8s.

It's $30 so at least SEGA had some semblance of a brain to not try to charge $40 for a game no one really wants *cough*Konami*cough*

bork · « **Reply #3057 on:** October 25, 2012, 10:16:50 AM »

Quote from: originalz on October 25, 2012, 02:56:10 AM

I'll review it for you despite not even playing it:

It sucks, just like every other game in the franchise since SMB2.

This is what stopped me from buying it. Wish I still had the GBA port of the original for some portable Monkey Ball fun.

maxy · « **Reply #3058 on:** October 26, 2012, 06:20:28 AM »

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wow, it looks so good

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Gorgeous game!

archnemesis · « **Reply #3059 on:** October 26, 2012, 07:20:25 AM »

It might still look good in motion. All Vita games are pretty ugly in framebuffer screenshots.

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