Author Topic: Vita Thread (Read 801647 times)

Takao · « **Reply #3120 on:** November 02, 2012, 11:08:33 AM »

I've added you. I don't remember getting an invite from you though. I've generally been adding everyone who's added me.

maxy · « **Reply #3121 on:** November 09, 2012, 12:36:33 AM »

Long read

http://gamasutra.com/view/feature/181082/postmortem_sony_bend_studios_.php?page=1

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Written primarily by writer and director John Garvin, the following incredibly detailed postmortem follows the ins and outs of Sony Bend's development of Uncharted: Golden Abyss, the PlayStation Vita launch title and premier game.

The development of Uncharted: Golden Abyss was a perfect storm of challenges: we were a launch title for new hardware, which meant that our schedule was not flexible; we were crafting gameplay mechanics we had no experience with (traversal and the PS Vita's touch and gyro controls), which meant a huge learning curve and lots of R&D time; we were creating a rendering engine that used next-gen shader techniques, which meant our artists had to learn an entirely new way to create assets; we were working on a franchise that was new to us, which meant we had to retool all of our processes, from the way we built assets to the way we thought about level design; and we were working on an Uncharted title, which meant an exponential increase -- from what we were used to -- in the amount of cinematics, detail, animation and polish that would be needed.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #3122 on:** November 09, 2012, 11:05:37 AM »

unrelated to vita but i got a question about cfw on my old-school psp - i put my old games on a memory stick, and some of them wont detect my old saves, like with vice city & chains of olympus. any way around this?

demi · « **Reply #3123 on:** November 09, 2012, 11:29:04 AM »

Yes, but I'm too lazy to do the work for you.

bork · « **Reply #3124 on:** November 09, 2012, 01:22:28 PM »

BLACK OPS DECLASSIFIED NEXT WEEK!

VITA SAVED!

There's still barely any official footage of it out there, yet some footage that has popped up actually looks kinda....all right. It's missing a ton of features but still seems to be a solid game and better than Resistance was...at least for multiplayer. The single player sounds like a joke.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #3125 on:** November 09, 2012, 01:29:52 PM »

COD could have been something good for the Vita, if it were a separate release and hyped up properly. But Activision just treated the Vita like any other port-dumpster.

The weeaboo/ambiguously pedo crowd should be psyched about Persona 4: The Golden.

edit: it was really rude of me to pigeonhole persona fans like that...there could also be legitimate teenagers who like the game. And people who are using it as therapy to "relive" their traumatic high school years in a positive manner. An alternate high school timeline where they have friends and girlfriends and purpose.

Purple Filth · « **Reply #3126 on:** November 09, 2012, 03:13:02 PM »

Quote from: bork laser on November 09, 2012, 01:22:28 PM

BLACK OPS DECLASSIFIED NEXT WEEK!

VITA SAVED!

There's still barely any official footage of it out there, yet some footage that has popped up actually looks kinda....all right. It's missing a ton of features but still seems to be a solid game and better than Resistance was...at least for multiplayer. The single player sounds like a joke.

That shit might have had a chance if it was done by the B team but it looks like they got the Z team instead and the 2 side don't seem to give a shit (Sony and Activision)

bork · « **Reply #3127 on:** November 09, 2012, 03:56:55 PM »

It has to be better than Resistance.
It has to be better than Resistance.
It has to be better than Resistance.
It has to be better than Resistance.
It has to be better than Resistance.
It has to be better than Resistance.
It has to be better than Resistance.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #3128 on:** November 09, 2012, 05:43:23 PM »

Quote from: demi on November 09, 2012, 11:29:04 AM

Yes, but I'm too lazy to do the work for you.

argh there most be some magic google phrase im missing because i cant find shit on this

demi · « **Reply #3129 on:** November 09, 2012, 05:50:47 PM »

Is this your issue?

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&q=psp+cfw+corrupted+save&oq=psp+cfw+corrupted+save&gs_l=serp.3..0i30j0i8i30.9565.11447.0.11469.14.8.0.6.6.0.140.732.3j4.7.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.JgqOr6V1dQM&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=9214c0a7b36326fe&bpcl=38093640&biw=1440&bih=815

Positive Touch · « **Reply #3130 on:** November 09, 2012, 06:37:03 PM »

maybe... the psp doesnt say my saves are corrupted, just that there are none even tho i can clearly seem them on my mem stick. g2g rite now but i'll look into this later tonight.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #3131 on:** November 09, 2012, 06:42:38 PM »

Quote from: Positive Touch on November 09, 2012, 06:37:03 PM

maybe... the psp doesnt say my saves are corrupted, just that there are none even tho i can clearly seem them on my mem stick. g2g rite now but i'll look into this later tonight.

Your CFW changed from OE to TE or something like that? I've had this issue where the firmwares wouldn't see the changed firmware from Dark Alex's CFW to post-DA's CFW's due to the way saves were saved in the CFW. You might have to do a bit of hassle to get a CFW app to load the save and then save again to where it's "overwritten" in the newer CFW process.

Quote from: Purple Filth on November 09, 2012, 03:13:02 PM

Quote from: bork laser on November 09, 2012, 01:22:28 PM
BLACK OPS DECLASSIFIED NEXT WEEK!

VITA SAVED!

There's still barely any official footage of it out there, yet some footage that has popped up actually looks kinda....all right. It's missing a ton of features but still seems to be a solid game and better than Resistance was...at least for multiplayer. The single player sounds like a joke.

That shit might have had a chance if it was done by the B team but it looks like they got the Z team instead and the 2 side don't seem to give a shit (Sony and Activision)

It looks better than Resistance. Question is: Does it control better? As it is, I don't think the hardware's gonna have a "killer app" FPS until Killzone (being done by Guerrilla in-house?)'s outing.

As far as Uncharted: It's a good game with the only blemish being the stupid gyro sniper controls. Dunno who at Bend thought that was a good idea, but I want to smack them in the face. Repeatedly.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #3132 on:** November 09, 2012, 08:26:18 PM »

when has Killzone ever been a killer app by any stretch of the imagination

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #3133 on:** November 09, 2012, 09:28:35 PM »

Quote from: Don Flamenco on November 09, 2012, 08:26:18 PM

when has Killzone ever been a killer app by any stretch of the imagination

The big fish-little pond effect in action

Takao · « **Reply #3134 on:** November 10, 2012, 12:02:32 AM »

Killzone: Mercenary is a Sony Cambridge x GG joint. I believe Cambridge were merged with them (Yes, I know they're in two different countries, I'm not sure how that happened).

Oh, Ragnarok Odyssey demo will be released next week in North America.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #3135 on:** November 10, 2012, 06:28:46 PM »

Quote from: Don Flamenco on November 09, 2012, 08:26:18 PM

when has Killzone ever been a killer app by any stretch of the imagination

It's the first "in-house" Sony company that has support of the previous/console devs to put some effort into it. It's probably the first game to show what FPS'ers can do on the platform if done right. Resistance was supposed to be that, but it was given to a B-team with the original devs not helping/shaping the game.

Of course, before you point out Uncharted/Bend: Bend has a history of playing source material and then trying to fit the source-material onto the platforms they design for. Whereas Nihilistic doesn't really have that.

Cambridge and Guerrilla doing it together has a better chance of going "hey, this is what a FPS should be on the platform" instead of Call of Duty: Phoned-in Declassfied and Resistance: Rushed to get out at Launch.

Quote from: The Experiment on November 09, 2012, 09:28:35 PM

The big fish-little pond effect in action

Or, basically: This.

Though, IIRC Cambridge did the PSP LittleBigPlanet title which was a noble effort but not really "fitting the game onto the handheld." It was a decent try, but too many sacrifices made instead of going their own way to downport LBP1's engine to the PSP. So who knows, maybe Killzone will be similar. Trying to shoehorn Killzone 3 onto the Vita.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #3136 on:** November 11, 2012, 04:49:20 PM »

Quote from: thisismyusername on November 10, 2012, 06:28:46 PM

Quote from: Don Flamenco on November 09, 2012, 08:26:18 PM
when has Killzone ever been a killer app by any stretch of the imagination

It's the first "in-house" Sony company that has support of the previous/console devs to put some effort into it. It's probably the first game to show what FPS'ers can do on the platform if done right. Resistance was supposed to be that, but it was given to a B-team with the original devs not helping/shaping the game.

Of course, before you point out Uncharted/Bend: Bend has a history of playing source material and then trying to fit the source-material onto the platforms they design for. Whereas Nihilistic doesn't really have that.

Cambridge and Guerrilla doing it together has a better chance of going "hey, this is what a FPS should be on the platform" instead of Call of Duty: Phoned-in Declassfied and Resistance: Rushed to get out at Launch.

Quote from: The Experiment on November 09, 2012, 09:28:35 PM
The big fish-little pond effect in action

Or, basically: This.

Though, IIRC Cambridge did the PSP LittleBigPlanet title which was a noble effort but not really "fitting the game onto the handheld." It was a decent try, but too many sacrifices made instead of going their own way to downport LBP1's engine to the PSP. So who knows, maybe Killzone will be similar. Trying to shoehorn Killzone 3 onto the Vita.

that all sounds like it's from a tech/design standpoint. I'm talking about the games themselves.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #3137 on:** November 11, 2012, 04:56:26 PM »

Quote from: Don Flamenco on November 11, 2012, 04:49:20 PM

that all sounds like it's from a tech/design standpoint. I'm talking about the games themselves.

Okay, fair enough: the IP hasn't really been "mainstream" in the likes of Uncharted or God of War, but still: If the handheld's version is good with effort behind it, I'm sure most people would get over the Killzone textures and art-style and play it over something that was phoned in like Resistance or Call of Duty on the platform.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #3138 on:** November 11, 2012, 05:16:19 PM »

and I'M sure no one would play it either way because it's a shitty ip on a system no one owns

bork · « **Reply #3139 on:** November 11, 2012, 05:42:12 PM »

Looks better than Resistance. Or it could just be the shitty cam quality.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #3140 on:** November 13, 2012, 05:14:26 PM »

Dan Ryckert ‏@DanRyckert
Well, I just beat Black Ops: Declassified's main story mode (if you can call it that) in 42 minutes.

dddddderp

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #3141 on:** November 13, 2012, 05:24:20 PM »

Holy fucking shit.

I have to say that this is shaping up to be one of the biggest hot messes in recent gaming history. The GAF OT hits the nail on the head, especially with the "features" list, where you can sense the passive-aggressiveness and disdain Nihilist (or at least their community management team) are showing towards Acti/Sony. I don't blame them, I hold those two more responsible for this debacle, what with the shadily short cycle and almost unprecedented embargo.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #3142 on:** November 13, 2012, 06:40:04 PM »

42mins?!

Wow

bork · « **Reply #3143 on:** November 13, 2012, 07:27:14 PM »

It does have that endless hostiles mode, but yeah, the focus is on the multiplayer. The back of the box barely mentions anything single player, in fact.

But BLOPS Declassified is...good!?

Much better than Resistance was. It's the best portable FPS I've ever played.

Too bad that is really not saying much.

The game is scaled-down and uses smaller maps, but that makes the eight player matches not feel so empty and the game really feels like Call Of Duty despite its flaws.

The controls are pretty well done; I had to turn the sensitivity way down and turned off the auto-run and was able to jump right in. A lot of players really, REALLY suck online and I think it has to do with the auto-run and aiming settings. If you don't adjust them, you aim all over the place.

Encountered one odd glitch (unless it was cheating somehow) where everyone on my team would respawn, immediately die, and respawn again. It kept saying that a single player on the other team was killing everyone.

$:-\$

But at least I was able to keep on playing-- BLOPS II already locked up my 360 once.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #3144 on:** November 13, 2012, 07:35:44 PM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on November 13, 2012, 06:40:04 PM

42mins?!

(Image removed from quote.)

Wow

$40

bork · « **Reply #3145 on:** November 13, 2012, 07:45:46 PM »

Quote from: Shaka Khan on November 13, 2012, 07:35:44 PM

Quote from: pilonv1 on November 13, 2012, 06:40:04 PM
42mins?!

(Image removed from quote.)

Wow

$40

Nope!

$50!

Purple Filth · « **Reply #3146 on:** November 13, 2012, 07:49:03 PM »

Quote from: Shaka Khan on November 13, 2012, 07:35:44 PM

Quote from: pilonv1 on November 13, 2012, 06:40:04 PM
42mins?!

(Image removed from quote.)

Wow

$40

$50 dude

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #3147 on:** November 13, 2012, 08:11:56 PM »

holy shit.

this sucks cause it might tank in resale value by the time I get a bundle on black friday...would've been nice to take off an extra $30 or so.

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #3148 on:** November 13, 2012, 09:10:11 PM »

1 hour single player content for COD Vita ?

naff · « **Reply #3149 on:** November 13, 2012, 10:13:49 PM »

Jesus. Poor Vita can't catch a break, if I had a Vita I'd be interested in a good casual shooter like CoD if it was on par with console version bar graphics...

bork · « **Reply #3150 on:** November 13, 2012, 10:37:58 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on November 13, 2012, 10:12:41 PM

Is it 60FPS?

Naw. It's 30 FPS max (I think) and it's not consistent.

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I'm going to assume Activision agreed to a COD for Vita and didn't think anything of actually making it until Sony came around banging on the screen door. Activision then slipped out the basement window and hurriedly handed off a flash drive filled with various assets like textures and fonts to Nihilist and told them to do....something. Well hey, that commitment has been filled so hooray! Weren't Sony saying how easy it was to port PS3 games to the Vita or was that fanboy crazy talk? Either way, kinda embarrassing it doesn't even have a decent story mode or many features from the console versions.

Why wont Sony just kill this fucking thing already? Just offer people an Xperia phone, a Walkman MP3 player or some PlayStation 3 games for free. I dunno, just SOMETHING. This is really embarrassing. I used to think the 3DS was a failure but man, this is bad.

Vita's sales may be pathetic, but it has good games. CoD is, surprisingly, one of them. Again, it's not like this is saying much, but it's the best portable FPS out there. I can see it getting reamed for the short single player content...by people who for whatever reason think that's more important than the multiplayer.

Quote from: quietID on November 13, 2012, 10:13:49 PM

Jesus. Poor Vita can't catch a break, if I had a Vita I'd be interested in a good casual shooter like CoD if it was on par with console version bar graphics...

The multiplayer is good. I have no idea if the single player sucks (Don't play these games for single player content) but they did a good job of making a competent mobile version of CoD. Casuals are going to like it...I guess. I mean are there any "casual" Vita players?

Takao · « **Reply #3151 on:** November 13, 2012, 11:11:47 PM »

The few reviews that are out are panning it with a 4/10. It's not surprising though given Need For Speed: Most Wanted, and Assassin's Creed: Liberation were criticized for not being as feature filled as the console iterations despite being a third less in price. CoD was going to get blasted given it's only $10 cheaper than the console game.

Oh yeah, btw the PSN and bundle version doesn't include the free PSP game, lol.

bork · « **Reply #3152 on:** November 13, 2012, 11:24:36 PM »

Quote from: Takao on November 13, 2012, 11:11:47 PM

Oh yeah, btw the PSN and bundle version doesn't include the free PSP game, lol.

bork · « **Reply #3153 on:** November 14, 2012, 10:44:08 AM »

Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich · « **Reply #3154 on:** November 14, 2012, 12:37:28 PM »

Anybody have P4: The Golden yet? What's the verdict? Thinking about picking it up later...

bork · « **Reply #3155 on:** November 14, 2012, 12:38:37 PM »

Comes out next week in the U.S.

Purple Filth · « **Reply #3156 on:** November 14, 2012, 01:58:21 PM »

Quote from: Takao on November 13, 2012, 11:11:47 PM

Oh yeah, btw the PSN and bundle version doesn't include the free PSP game, lol.

Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich · « **Reply #3157 on:** November 14, 2012, 03:01:00 PM »

oh poo. I was going to return Gravity Rush since it's going to be free on Vita in a week anyway. What's been out lately that's worthwhile?

demi · « **Reply #3158 on:** November 14, 2012, 03:29:30 PM »

.........................

Huff · « **Reply #3159 on:** November 14, 2012, 04:35:49 PM »

Asscreed vita is pretty solid

Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich · « **Reply #3160 on:** November 14, 2012, 05:04:08 PM »

yeah I'll wait till Himusona comes out then. Fuckin' Vita

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #3161 on:** November 14, 2012, 05:55:18 PM »

said fuck it and got my Vita and 32gb card. The gamestop guy said that if their black friday deal looked really good, I could return the system and pick up another one. Sounds good.

I don't care what people say, I want this system to live. but don't worry, i'm not gonna be a fan boy about it. I just like that a dual stick handheld exists.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #3162 on:** November 14, 2012, 06:15:26 PM »

its the best way to play psp games, if that makes you feel any better

bork · « **Reply #3163 on:** November 14, 2012, 08:09:49 PM »

Quote from: Don Flamenco on November 14, 2012, 05:55:18 PM

said fuck it and got my Vita and 32gb card. The gamestop guy said that if their black friday deal looked really good, I could return the system and pick up another one. Sounds good.

I don't care what people say, I want this system to live. but don't worry, i'm not gonna be a fan boy about it. I just like that a dual stick handheld exists.

Eh, the only thing that sucks about the Vita is its sales.

Plenty of good games are available, plus all those PSP games too.

bork · « **Reply #3164 on:** November 14, 2012, 08:10:11 PM »

Quote from: Positive Touch on November 14, 2012, 06:15:26 PM

its the best way to play psp games, if that makes you feel any better

I still prefer playing them on a hacked PSP. Especially the Go.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #3165 on:** November 14, 2012, 08:17:53 PM »

Quote from: bork laser on November 14, 2012, 08:09:49 PM

Quote from: Don Flamenco on November 14, 2012, 05:55:18 PM
said fuck it and got my Vita and 32gb card. The gamestop guy said that if their black friday deal looked really good, I could return the system and pick up another one. Sounds good.

I don't care what people say, I want this system to live. but don't worry, i'm not gonna be a fan boy about it. I just like that a dual stick handheld exists.

Eh, the only thing that sucks about the Vita is its sales. Plenty of good games are available, plus all those PSP games too.

All those PSP games....

EXCEPT PHANTASY STAR PORTABLE 2

i seem to have forgotten that from when i had one at launch

bork · « **Reply #3166 on:** November 14, 2012, 08:29:59 PM »

Yeah, that sucks. And you know that "you can go back and re-download ANYTHING in your download history!!!" thing about PSN? NOPE- PSN will not allow me to re-download it to the Vita.

But that's OK- play Ragnarok Odyssey now and get Phantasy Star Online 2 next year.

Trent Dole · « **Reply #3167 on:** November 14, 2012, 08:50:13 PM »

Oh man PSP2. It's available on the Eu and JP PSN still but not the US. Why? Because SoA apparently lost it somehow... it vanished from US PSN one day and never returned.

Eric P · « **Reply #3168 on:** November 14, 2012, 09:38:25 PM »

Quote from: bork laser on November 14, 2012, 08:29:59 PM

Yeah, that sucks. And you know that "you can go back and re-download ANYTHING in your download history!!!" thing about PSN? NOPE- PSN will not allow me to re-download it to the Vita.

But that's OK- play Ragnarok Odyssey now and get Phantasy Star Online 2 next year.

Is RO any good? The demo didn't do much for me.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #3169 on:** November 14, 2012, 10:13:11 PM »

Ultimate Ghosts N Goblins eases the PSP2 pain.

Huff · « **Reply #3170 on:** November 14, 2012, 10:18:49 PM »

RO is pretty good 4 player but really boring single player

bork · « **Reply #3171 on:** November 14, 2012, 11:49:15 PM »

I haven't put enough time into RO. Been told it starts off kind of boring and gets much better.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #3172 on:** November 15, 2012, 01:08:30 AM »

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/181594/3DS_outsells_Vita_47to1_in_Japan.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+GamasutraNews+%28Gamasutra+News%29#.UKSGkIfAdhz

3DS outselling Vita 47:1 in glorious nippon

Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich · « **Reply #3173 on:** November 15, 2012, 01:35:14 AM »

RO is awesome multiplayer with friends because you can do the party chat thing and shoot the shit

maxy · « **Reply #3174 on:** November 15, 2012, 03:55:28 AM »

‏rumor

CoD Vita had like a four-five month development cycle.

superannuation ‏@supererogatory

They didn't really start development until around when Resistance shipped and wrapped up early last month. So May to October.

https://twitter.com/supererogatory

archnemesis · « **Reply #3175 on:** November 15, 2012, 03:58:06 AM »

That wouldn't surprise me at all. If the campaign is less than an hour and they recycled assets and the engine it's probably possible to make it in that time frame.

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #3176 on:** November 15, 2012, 04:13:48 AM »

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3DS outselling Vita 47:1 in glorious nippon

Japanese people couldn't stick their cock on something good without checking the TV on friday night to make sure they were right.

maxy · « **Reply #3177 on:** November 15, 2012, 08:26:14 AM »

It's simply amazing what a loss of one game can do to a platform.

bork · « **Reply #3178 on:** November 15, 2012, 08:31:59 AM »

Quote from: maxy on November 15, 2012, 08:26:14 AM

It's simply amazing what a loss of one game can do to a platform.

I was thinking the same thing, lol.

maxy · « **Reply #3179 on:** November 15, 2012, 09:32:15 AM »

Great minds think alike.

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