Vita Thread

[Don Flamenco]

fuck yeah folders!   


and I will wait and see with Guacamelee.   So many "metroidvania" games that are not worth playing vs. just replaying either a metroid or sotn-style CV game.   

[hampster]

folders

[demi]

and I will wait and see with Guacamelee*

* until it hits PS+

- every vita owner

[Don Flamenco]

don't have to wait, it gets a discount on launch and its cross-buy


i hope by video streaming they mean flash because twitchtv on my vita would be pretty shweet

[Don Flamenco]

one thing i wish they'd fix with the browser is how the page resizes itself after loading. i don't know how to describe it...like it loads 90% of the way, then say you want to use a text input box, you press it, but then the page suddenly resizes after it hits 100% loaded and thinks you've clicked whatever is in the box's place.   does anyone know what i'm talking about

[Powerslave]

I know exactly what you're talking about. It's so annoying when browsing. You zoom in while it's still loading and it suddenly goes back to its initial full display when the page is done loading.

[cool breeze]

There should be a Guacamelee demo.  Well, one exists and we'll see if it's released on PSN.

My concern about the length is that most of the time will be spent fighting than exploring.  I played Dust on XBLA last year, and it was great and all, but much of the 10+ hours were spent fighting enemies. Sometimes these Metroid style games don't do a great job balancing the exploration to fightin ratio.  Otherwise ~5 hours sounds fine.

[bork]

PSV finally getting a firmware update to create folders

  :ooh

I wonder if folders will stay intact when account switching...

[Purple Filth]

PSV finally getting a firmware update to create folders

  :ooh

I wonder if folders will stay intact when account switching...

sounds like it?

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/04/09/ps-vita-system-software-update-v-2-10/

Verify which PS Vita card you are using by looking at the home screen’s info bar. You can also save the layout of your home screen icons in the memory card.

[cool breeze]

yeah, what's up with that?

I haven't done account switching since launch since it's a pain.  Is it easier these days?

[Purple Filth]

Apparently the 100 app limit hasn't been raised 

yeah, what's up with that?

I haven't done account switching since launch since it's a pain.  Is it easier these days?

IIRC bork said you could skip the intro video now but it still fucked up the icon placement.

[Don Flamenco]

I know exactly what you're talking about. It's so annoying when browsing. You zoom in while it's still loading and it suddenly goes back to its initial full display when the page is done loading.

that's right,  the zooming.   crazy annoying since I'm usually using it for gamefaqs while i'm playing something and it always looks fully loaded before i try to find something, then i end up on an ad page, which is just below the search bar.

[Powerslave]

yup gamefaqs is the first site that came to my mind, then thebore
I wish there was a way to block ads on the psv though...


Also while this update is nice and all, I gotta say it's fucking mindblowingly stupid how a multimedia high end device like the PS Vita lacks basic fucking functions and the issues won't even get fixed with the upcoming update. I mean seriously, only 10 icons per folder? What the fuck is wrong with these people? Why is vita's OS such a locked and  claustrophobic piece of shit?

You would think this device would almost operate like a mini laptop of some sort but the functionality doesn't reach much further than a knock-off handheld device that you can buy in a kids toy store.

[Don Flamenco]

I'm guessing its cause folders caused some problem in the OS that they had to resolve.  I don't know much about programming but afaik, changing one thing can introduce bugs into other things that previously worked.   Either that or they're artificially trickling out functionality so the updates look more substantial. 
Like iOS/iTunes finally introduced the ability to queue songs without messing with playlist shit...which my Rio Karma did like 10 years ago.   There was 0 excuse for that, it's such a basic and user friendly feature.

Even missing basic shit and having some quirks, it's probably the best OS of any gaming console or handheld at the moment, in terms of speed, functionality, and lack of excess shit (ads, that useless PS3 rss feed that spits out gibberish most of the time.) 
 

[archnemesis]

The RSS feed thing can be turned off on European accounts. Is that not the case in North America? I haven't used my US account in a while.

[Don Flamenco]

oh yeah, that can be turned off.   i mean the thing scrolling under the clock

[demi]

lmfao @ the endo f th video

"we've added all of this!"

- email
- email
- email
- email

[bork]

I haven't done account switching since launch since it's a pain.  Is it easier these days?

Still a pain in the ass, but it's not horrible to the point that I wouldn't do it again.  You can skip the video intro to make it go quicker, but when I switched back to my U.S. account from my Japanese account, I was missing games icons (had to reinstall some stuff, wtf?), icon placement was fucked, and I had to verify my PSN account to get everything back again.

[Don Flamenco]

this 100 icon thing is a problem for a lot of folks.  is it psn minis that are getting you to hit this limit?  Between vita, psp, and ps1 games, you couldn't hit 100 and have still have space.

[Don Flamenco]

speaking of PS1, these are the new PS1 imports they added this week:

► PS1
○ Evergreen Avenue – $5.99 / 317 MB
○ Favorite Dear (Jyunpaku No Yogensha) – $5.99 / 317 MB
○ Mahjong Youchien Tamago-gumi $5.99 / 80.4 MB


 

[Powerslave]

Even missing basic shit and having some quirks, it's probably the best OS of any gaming console or handheld at the moment, in terms of speed, functionality, and lack of excess shit (ads, that useless PS3 rss feed that spits out gibberish most of the time.) 
 

yeah it's fast and it's awesome how you can minimize games instantly and switch over to other apps but can't say I like how everything has a 'live area' screen. Everything has to load up. Is that really necessary to everything, even things like the settings? It seems weirdly designed.

I always envisioned this device something akin to a smartphone but with more capabilities but from what we've seen so far the power of the machine is kept in a cage and it's wrapped up by a cheap user interface that doesn't allow for any customization and on top of that lacks basic functions.

[Shaka Khan]

I don't know, I was going to pass on it but it looks a lot better than I thought and has gotten some great scores

I had a few dollars in my wallet, which brought the price down to $5 (with the PS+ discount), so I bit the bullet. It's #YOPO and getting high praise/reviews, so why throw some money at them? It's been a while since I did.

[Sho Nuff]

srsly who the fuck is going to buy a mahjong game in Japanese

i'm so confused by this

[Don Flamenco]

or visual novels.  the people releasing these said they were cheap enough to bring over that it doesn't matter, but why the waste of time?  There have to be hidden playable gems that wouldn't cost much to bring over

[Shaka Khan]

Unless I need to rub my eyes, Guacamelee is slightly sub-native, but runs at 60fps. It's #YOPO and supports cross-saves, so unless you've got chronic diarrhea and/or long commutes, you should be playing this on the PS3. It suffers from the same issue Sound Shapes had; everything just looks so tiny on the Vita, which is a waste for a game as gorgeous as this.

[Shaka Khan]

I'm still early in the game, so I can't tell you for sure. But my guts tell me it's closer to Outland's.

I mean, if you hit select and you'll get a map of all the game's locations which happen to be interconnected. Some locked behind skill-specific obstacles. But I've yet to see if it flows like one.

[Don Flamenco]

is it an actual metroidvania or is it something entirely different that clueless people call a metroidvania, like outland was?

i feel like it's always the latter with these indie "metroidvania" games

[Shaka Khan]

Yup.

Though I have to say, the game is charming and has so much character.

[Shaka Khan]

Of course it wouldn't be an Indie game without being chock-full of memes, and this game is no different.

[Don Flamenco]

new fw is out!

[MCD]

new fw is out!

My favorite game.

[Shaka Khan]

After spending some more time with Guacamelee, I'm happy to report that this is as close to a Metroidvania as Western indie will ever get. It's a solid game, with good pacing, and lots of character.

[archnemesis]

srsly who the fuck is going to buy a mahjong game in Japanese

i'm so confused by this

I might since there aren't many good translated versions. It's not like you need to learn that many symbols to be able to play it.

If it was the Vita game I probably would have gotten it. I'm sure there are better alternatives than PS1 games though.

[Powerslave]

Don, the new fw update sorta fixes that zoom problem we discussed earlier, it still makes the screen go back to the top after it loads I think... but the amount you zoom doesn't reset


also you can use the analog sticks now to scroll the page and also zoom in and out

[Don Flamenco]

nice.  i am glad they added button control to all those apps. 


vita means life

[Shaka Khan]

Guacamelee is top quality, bros. Most fun I've had a game claiming to be a Metroidvania since the last IGAvania. On top of everything I've mentioned before, it has great puzzles and level design.

(Disclaimer: Never continued playing Shadow Complex)

(Addendum: But from what I played this game beats it handily)

[Powerslave]

just tell me if it's long enough. I don't wanna pay 10 euros for a 6 hour game. Also are there things like upgrades to your moves?

[Don Flamenco]

i have some dough coming from sony this week if they don't fuck up the spend 50/get 10 rebates, i will prob dl it

i'm a little worried about the vita version.  i will never touch it if it's on my ps3...it just can't compete with all those perennials i have on the system.

[Shaka Khan]

just tell me if it's long enough. I don't wanna pay 10 euros for a 6 hour game. Also are there things like upgrades to your moves?

It'll depend on how you're going to tackle it. I've been taking my time collecting stuff, doing challenges, and completing the few side quests. And assuming you always go for 100% in Metroidvanias you might get between 9-10 hours of play. For instance, I've only got the final dungeon left to complete, and I'm planning on backtracking after I'm done with the boss (I heard the game allows you). Anyhow, right now my world map is at 80%  and my current play-time is 8:30.

i'm a little worried about the vita version.  i will never touch it if it's on my ps3...it just can't compete with all those perennials i have on the system.

Same here. I've only cleared 15% of the game on my Vita. I'm just more comfortable playing this on a big TV with a DS3. Having said that, the Vita version doesn't suffer from any inherent problem, it's just a matter of preference.

[Powerslave]

I always take the sweet time to fully absorb every pixel and mechanic of the games I play.

[Shaka Khan]

All I can add is that it's very satisfying. The pacing and the variety of platforming puzzles were also great. So you won't see me complaining about the game's length, it just feels right.

(... Having said that, there seems to be plans of DLC, if the PS Store menu is anything to go by. I'm not sure what they're planning on adding though)

[Powerslave]

Went from 4 pages to 2 

[Don Flamenco]

down to 1

[DCharlieJP]

I should tidy up my shit lol

[Don Flamenco]

Guilty Gear Accent Placenta Orthodox Stalinist Arkham Plus: Origins  is coming on 4/23

i'm in there...all alone, but i'll be in there 

 

[Shaka Khan]

Finally 100% Guacamelee. 11h played. Very satisfying game, highly recommended, worth the money.

[bork]

I got everything on two pages, but might expand to three pages and take the games I'm currently playing out of folders.

I'm just so glad I can hide all the useless crap that can't be deleted.  Was glad when the 3DS got folders to do the same thing.

Guilty Gear Accent Placenta Orthodox Stalinist Arkham Plus: Origins  is coming on 4/23

i'm in there...all alone, but i'll be in there 

I'll be there.   

Is this cross-play?  If not, maybe it's only gonna be us.   :'(

[hampster]

The PSNstores.com podcast was talking about psmobile sales numbers and they were terrible :'( So I made some pity purchases - Life of Pixel and Haunt the House. I was interested in both but never got around to buying them. Both make a good first impression

also you can use the analog sticks now to scroll the page and also zoom in and out

How do you enable this? It doesn't work for me and I didn't see an option for it

[Powerslave]

It sort of worked automatically after the fw update? Did you even update brah?

[hampster]

I updated but it didn't work :'(

[Powerslave]

[Powerslave]

wait a sec are u sure you know we talking about the browser here

[hampster]

My sticks don't work in the web browser :'( Not that it matters because the sticks work in the Wii U's browser Wii U

[Powerslave]

check if you have the Control with Buttons on PS Vita System box checked in the System menu in Settings

[hampster]

check if you have the Control with Buttons on PS Vita System box checked in the System menu in Settings

Browser settings in the system settings That's probably it though, I'll mess with it after work

[Powerslave]

not just browser settings, system wide. But yup buried options on the veetor n shit

[Verdigris Murder]

Finally 100% Guacamelee. 11h played. Very satisfying game, highly recommended, worth the money.

Yep, really liking this an awful lot. Alienating the fears that the vita is rip, Indy by indie.

[DCharlieJP]

Yeah, so Jeff Minter is bringing a new Tempest game to the Vita.

http://thevitalounge.com/legendary-game-developer-jeff-minter-is-making-a-vita-title/

We’re going to base it on the essence of the original T2K. It’ll be the pure, straightforward shooter that maybe you hoped for when you first saw Space Giraffe. We’re not going to overload you with ultra psychedelia, but we will make it fluid and colourful and awesome-looking on the Vita’s delicious, vibrant OLED screen. We’re going to give you a perfect treat for your eyes, ears and thumbs with a modern extrapolation of one of the best shooters ever made on hardware that’s just perfectly suited for it, and in a way that retains the purity of the original design.
 
It’s going to be *awesome* .

I can't wait to ride the bacon again.

[Don Flamenco]

haha forgot all about Space Giraffe. 

The Eyes of Allard

[AdmiralViscen]

I guess he will keep shitting that game out for the rest of his life.