Author Topic: Football Manager  (Read 1048 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Fortus

  • Junior Member
Football Manager
« on: June 26, 2011, 03:13:43 PM »
This "game" has been monopolizing practically all of my free time for the past two weeks...and I've only been playing the demo. I really don't know what to say about it other than it's completely blind-sided me with its awesomeness. It doesn't hurt that I'm a fan of the beautiful game but its core appeal to me is similar to the PS1 classic Carnage Heart; the difference being instead of programming OKEs I'm programming soccer players. Of course humans aren't machines so there's a random element of "form" on game day but that actually adds to the tension and drama of the match. I'd heard about the game before but for some reason thought it would be simply about transfers and finances. I was wrong...very very wrong
pie

Joe Molotov

  • I'm much more humble than you would understand.
  • Administrator
Re: Football Manager
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2011, 03:19:55 PM »
Paging pilonv1 to thread, pilonv1 report to thread please..
©@©™

WrikaWrek

  • Let your soul glow
  • Senior Member
Re: Football Manager
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2011, 03:52:25 PM »
I'm in the year 2027, and Manchester City has a new stadium named after me.

This game is like digital coke.

Fortus

  • Junior Member
Re: Football Manager
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2011, 04:26:16 PM »
I'm in the year 2027, and Manchester City has a new stadium named after me.

This game is like digital coke.

This is why I'm really hesitant about getting the full game. Saving Blackpool from relegation and building them up over the years so they challenge for an FA Cup or qualify for some Euro stuff would be so rewarding but such a time sink. I worry that it would consume me like my old EQ addiction did a decade ago. Scouting players, playing meta-games with other clubs to snatch talent, tweaking tactics and training regimens...
pie

MyNameIsMethodis

  • QUIT
  • Ebola Carrier
Re: Football Manager
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2011, 04:28:28 PM »
I wish the iphone version was good :(
USA

pilonv1

  • I love you just the way I am
  • Senior Member
Re: Football Manager
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2011, 10:13:57 PM »
:hyper

About to get some lunch, but a quick update!

I got Dulwich Hamlet to the top flight in 2023, and now in 2035 I've won a few league titles, 4 FA Cups and a bunch of Leauge Cups.

Champions league has been pretty tough though, always losing to those dirty La Liga teams :(
« Last Edit: June 26, 2011, 10:58:38 PM by pilonv1 »
itm

pilonv1

  • I love you just the way I am
  • Senior Member
Re: Football Manager
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2011, 11:33:38 PM »
Quote
I'd heard about the game before but for some reason thought it would be simply about transfers and finances. I was wrong...very very wrong

Everyone plays it differently though, if you just wanted to do transfers you could and let your AssMan do the rest. The game has become easy to set up in that regard.

I don't make too many tactical changes, but obviously if I've got some useless git who can't kick a ball I will tell him to not pass much or take long shots.

There's so much great fun in this game, the randomness is the selling point.

- Signing some french knob who was late to training twice in his first month at the club, after being seen out late partying with socialites at a club. First time I fined him two weeks wages and he claimed he'd show more professionalism. Second time I sold him to another club for 4million. Don't think he played much there and faded into obscurity
- New DC gets 2 straight red cards and 3 yellow in his first 5 games
- Finding a MC/ML who ended up playing 80+ internationals for England and averaging a 7.2+ rating in the Premier League for 10k when he was 17 at some Welsh club. Or finding a guy in Ghana who will end up being voted European Footballer of the Year that no one else was even looking for.
- The agony as your tight arse chairman sells your best player for 1million because the offer was too good to refuse
- Having your club bought by some crazy Czech/Asian tycoon who pays off all your debt and invests 100m+ every six months for you to play with.
- Telling some arrogant youngster he wont be getting more than his 200 quid a week because he has 4 years left on his contract.

For me it's nearly the perfect game because it doesn't require constant attention, you can play it while watching/doing something else. You don't even need a strong football mind to play it, I started with very basic football knowledge and was just scouting/signing players. But over the years you pick things up watching real football and the 3D match engine that helps you fine tune your tactics.
itm

Fortus

  • Junior Member
Re: Football Manager
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2011, 12:05:40 AM »
There's so much great fun in this game, the randomness is the selling point.

My starting RW suddenly turned "UNH" so we have a chat. Turns out he's homesick and wants a leave of abscence...

There's so much depth to this game it's unbelievable. You're right that you can offload a ton of stuff but I'm constantly pausing matches to check player CON and see how my passing is working...switch to Shorter or More Direct? Is the match ref strict on fouls (you can "scout" refs in this game ffs) which determines if I go in Hard on key players and can be generally aggressive with tackling or do I need to back off? Should I change Formation to throw off the other side mid-game? On and on and on.

Truly gut wrenching drama and tension in some games too. Can I hold that one goal lead against a superior side in the waning moments of injury time when they're throwing everything they have against my exhausted back four? Can I eke out a goal and snatch a point as the ref is looking at his watch with the whistle already against his lips?

Incredible game and I'm just playing the demo
pie

pilonv1

  • I love you just the way I am
  • Senior Member
Re: Football Manager
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2011, 01:24:56 AM »
My starting RW suddenly turned "UNH" so we have a chat. Turns out he's homesick and wants a leave of abscence...

Some of them never get happy. Other guys are happy if you bring someone from the same nation/region especially if they cant speak the local language. Others are just poor at adapting.

Quote
There's so much depth to this game it's unbelievable. You're right that you can offload a ton of stuff but I'm constantly pausing matches to check player CON and see how my passing is working...switch to Shorter or More Direct? Is the match ref strict on fouls (you can "scout" refs in this game ffs) which determines if I go in Hard on key players and can be generally aggressive with tackling or do I need to back off? Should I change Formation to throw off the other side mid-game? On and on and on.

Are you using the widgets? You don't need to pause if you aren't:



Using the touchline shouts makes things simple to fine tune your tactics in game too, you don't even need to hit pause.

Quote
Truly gut wrenching drama and tension in some games too. Can I hold that one goal lead against a superior side in the waning moments of injury time when they're throwing everything they have against my exhausted back four? Can I eke out a goal and snatch a point as the ref is looking at his watch with the whistle already against his lips?

There is NOTHING more exciting or infuriating than a winning goal in the 95th minute when there's 4 minutes of injury time.
itm

Fortus

  • Junior Member
Re: Football Manager
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2011, 04:40:00 PM »
Geez...that screenie is exactly what I need. I've been playing with the 2d dots display...

Also fsck injuries... :maf Having to use Youth squad members because your Registered players are boned is Unhappy Valley
pie

pilonv1

  • I love you just the way I am
  • Senior Member
Re: Football Manager
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2011, 08:51:50 PM »
3D view sucked for many years. Around 2009/10 they sorted it out and now it's glorious

:bow Sports Interactive :bow2
itm