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ManaByte

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EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« on: July 09, 2011, 04:56:01 PM »
http://www.battlefield.com/battlefield3/1/bf3-digital-retailers

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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2011, 04:58:49 PM »
I'll keep on playing TF2 instead.   8)

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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2011, 04:58:55 PM »
Competition is good.

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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2011, 05:22:15 PM »
I have enough games to play already

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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2011, 05:27:09 PM »
steam :violin
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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2011, 05:31:10 PM »
origin :violin

Fixed for reality.  I can't wait for EA to come crawling back after this experiment flops.  :bow2

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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2011, 05:32:11 PM »
For some reason Steam won't install on this new machine (something about there being no internet connection), so fuck Steam. Go Origin.

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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2011, 05:32:21 PM »
like shuri said, competition is good. I don't see why people are making a huge deal.
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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2011, 05:35:33 PM »
If you want the game, then go buy it at retail.  I really don't understand why anyone who was interested in Battlefield 3 not buying because it's not on Steam.  That seems fucking distinguished mentally-challenged.
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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2011, 05:55:43 PM »
like shuri said, competition is good. I don't see why people are making a huge deal.

Competition is when they sell the game on all services and the services compete through pricing and features.

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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2011, 06:03:13 PM »
retail it is then
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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2011, 06:10:49 PM »
like shuri said, competition is good. I don't see why people are making a huge deal.

Competition is when they sell the game on all services and the services compete through pricing and features.

This is like saying AT&T when they had the iphone exclusively were not being competitive by keeping the iphone within their line of phones only and no one else's.

It's a marketing strategy. And a very effective one at that.
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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2011, 06:12:10 PM »

It's a marketing strategy.

still sucks.
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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2011, 06:12:53 PM »
I agree it does.
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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2011, 07:12:53 PM »
EA passive aggressive stance with Steam is funny.

I'll get this at retail, but am almost more interested in Red Orchestra 2.  Hope I see some other Borer's on RO2!

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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2011, 08:45:19 PM »
like shuri said, competition is good. I don't see why people are making a huge deal.

Competition is when they sell the game on all services and the services compete through pricing and features.

This is like saying AT&T when they had the iphone exclusively were not being competitive by keeping the iphone within their line of phones only and no one else's.

It's a marketing strategy. And a very effective one at that.

this isn't like the AT&T thing;that was AT&T trying to get people on their service through the exclusive hardware.  BF3 isn't Origin exclusive and EA is the publisher.  They make money if it's sold on any of these services and Steam is just another storefront.  It's a detrimental business strategy because it takes away the biggest digital store to sell their product.  That is unless every other one of those digital stores is paying EA to 'snub' Steam.  Ideally, they'd want people to buy it from Origin as that would help them the most, but every other store except Steam will carry it.  It's not making their own service more attractive to consumers. 

which is why it's not so simple to say EA is at fault here, even though EA is usually an ass and Valve kicks ass.  there could be conflicting policies that prevent Steam from accepting EA products or EA from selling products on steam.  otherwise, it's EA (and possibly other digital retailers) 'attacking' valve.  I don't get it.  iirc, EA still distributes Valve's games at retail (kinda important for the PS3/360 versions). 

having said that, BF3 has been preordered for months now.  I'll get the retail version and register it to Origin.

speaking of Red Orchestra 2, both games also have a suppression mechanic.  in BF3, if you're under fire, you're not going to be firing back as accurately as you would normally.  the balance and usefulness of each class sound great.
« Last Edit: July 09, 2011, 08:47:55 PM by Linkzg »

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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2011, 08:59:02 PM »
As I stated in the other thread cutting out the biggest retailer is stupid unless you're getting a better deal elsewhere that will make up the difference.
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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2011, 09:08:30 PM »
Steam shills are disgusting, the no steam no sale crowd all need a giant fucking enema
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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2011, 09:16:45 PM »
i won't buy it unless it is on steam, because i'd rather have all my library in one place with one login using the most refined distribution platform than add yet another dd agent to my machine for maybe one or two games. i'd think differently if i DIDN'T have like 1000 games to play, courtesy of STEAM SUMMER SALE OMG

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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2011, 10:17:52 PM »
Steam shills are disgusting, the no steam no sale crowd all need a giant fucking enema

plz accept steam as your lord and savior
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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2011, 10:52:32 PM »
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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2011, 10:57:30 PM »
:bow Steam :bow2

:bow based Gabe :bow2

But Battlefield 3 will probably come to Steam like all of EA's other games.
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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2011, 01:08:57 AM »
Yeah, just like Crysis 2

oh wait

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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2011, 01:11:12 AM »
Yeah, just like Crysis 2

oh wait

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Crysis 2 came out on Steam. If you bought, you can play and download it as much as you want.
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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2011, 01:18:32 AM »
But I was waiting for a sale and didn't buy it, now I can't ever buy it on steam :(

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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2011, 02:29:46 AM »
i won't buy it unless it is on steam, because i'd rather have all my library in one place with one login using the most refined distribution platform than add yet another dd agent to my machine for maybe one or two games. i'd think differently if i DIDN'T have like 1000 games to play, courtesy of STEAM SUMMER SALE OMG

also :bow eel o'brian :bow2

direct2drive and gamersgate don't have any dd agents, just a download link and a key.

edit: and i'm assuming neither does bestbuy or amazon.
« Last Edit: July 10, 2011, 02:33:47 AM by TEEEPO »

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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #26 on: July 10, 2011, 06:40:37 AM »
Unlike Steam, you don't have to run Origin to play its games. Dunno if that's gonna change with the launch of BF3. I imagine EA would like to sell all dlc and add-on content through Origin.

It's not like EA's doing anything that hasn't already been done on Steam. They know that a big release like BF3 would push a lot of people to get on Origin, if only to register their retail copies for posterity.

I would prefer to get it on Steam, but I wouldn't complain so much. It wasn't so long ago when we had to continuously change the discs in our drives and always keep retail boxes at hand.

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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #27 on: July 10, 2011, 09:35:51 AM »
I had big probs with BFBC2 on Steam, got caught in some weird endless update loop with Punkbuster, so I took the key and registered it with EA's Download Manager and it worked fine.  I'd imagine there'd be the same busted patching/updating problem on BF3 since they've chosen to honor their demon pact with Punkbuster once again.  I have no problem buying stuff on other services, but I have to admit it does irk the anal retentive in me to not have series games like Mass Effect (bought from D2D) and Mass Effect 2 available for download on the same service.
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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #28 on: July 10, 2011, 10:15:31 AM »
Who cares? no one buys pc games.
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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2011, 10:25:51 AM »
I had big probs with BFBC2 on Steam, got caught in some weird endless update loop with Punkbuster, so I took the key and registered it with EA's Download Manager and it worked fine.  I'd imagine there'd be the same busted patching/updating problem on BF3 since they've chosen to honor their demon pact with Punkbuster once again.  I have no problem buying stuff on other services, but I have to admit it does irk the anal retentive in me to not have series games like Mass Effect (bought from D2D) and Mass Effect 2 available for download on the same service.

yeah but you don't really count because your luck with Steam in general is pretty much shit.
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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #30 on: July 10, 2011, 11:00:36 AM »
true, true
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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #31 on: July 12, 2011, 12:51:56 PM »
Is Steam something on 360?  If not, what are you guys talking about?

What's a 360?
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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #32 on: July 12, 2011, 03:06:21 PM »
People talk all their crap and they will end up buying it on whatever dd platform its on. This whole steam thing is one of those forum issues meaning its not as big a deal as people claim it to be
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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #33 on: July 15, 2011, 02:11:00 PM »
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Research firm Baird believes publishers 'are receptive to a Steam rival'

The splintered relationship between Electronic Arts and Valve appears to have worsened, with Gamestop now claiming that Battlefield 3 will be blocked from Steam.

The upcoming EA DICE shooter will be available digitally on other platforms, including Gamestop’s, an unnamed executive at retailer also said.

Financial research firm Baird recently held a meeting with Gamestop’s management, and in its subsequent report says: “The upcoming EA title Battlefield 3 will be sold as a download through GameStop, but not through Steam.”

Baird has since told Develop that it had heard the claim directly from Gamestop executives. EA and Valve have been approached for comment.

“Given Steam's dominance – and insistence on users downloading a Steam client application – publishers are likely to be receptive to a competitive alternative,” the Baird report read.

The new claims come amid widespread speculation that some future EA games won’t appear on Valve’s network.

Electronic Arts recently positioned itself as a Valve rival in the digital PC space, having launched its own Origin service.

David DeMartini, who heads up the operation, made assurances that EA is not inclined to block its games from any distribution platform.

The publisher also claimed that Valve removed Crysis 2 – an EA Partners game – from Steam due to imposed "business terms".

“This was not an EA decision or the result of any action by EA,” the firm claimed.
http://www.develop-online.net/news/38239/Battlefield-3-wont-appear-on-Steam-retailer-says
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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #34 on: July 15, 2011, 03:19:43 PM »
origin isn't a rival  :S

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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #35 on: July 15, 2011, 04:08:33 PM »
viz drowning in a pool of knocked over piss jugs at this news

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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #36 on: July 15, 2011, 04:13:50 PM »
Just wait a month or two.
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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #37 on: July 16, 2011, 07:28:24 AM »
Grass is always greener

I bet I could find some publishers who don't want a confer delivery service run by a large publisher.
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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #38 on: July 16, 2011, 07:38:12 AM »
Grass is always greener

I bet I could find some publishers who don't want a confer delivery service run by a large publisher.

Like every single indie dev in the world?  :teehee

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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #39 on: July 18, 2011, 03:20:26 AM »
have they said if rush mode will come back in this game? the majority of the community seems to hate it, but i loved it because it provided so many opportunities to pull off some crazy shit and feel like a super bad ass.
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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #40 on: July 18, 2011, 12:59:23 PM »
have they said if rush mode will come back in this game? the majority of the community seems to hate it, but i loved it because it provided so many opportunities to pull off some crazy shit and feel like a super bad ass.

Rush is in the game.

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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #41 on: July 18, 2011, 07:39:50 PM »
this is good.
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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #42 on: July 18, 2011, 07:45:54 PM »
I think Rush is what they showed at E3?

Rush is fun for playing quick games.  If I want to sit down and play for a while, conquest is still the best time.

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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #43 on: July 19, 2011, 05:24:03 AM »
Have they already made known all the modes that'll be in the game? Kinda hoping for some more standard modes like TDM, DM and CTF.

TDM is in..

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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #44 on: July 19, 2011, 01:42:17 PM »
http://www.develop-online.net/news/38239/Battlefield-3-wont-appear-on-Steam-retailer-says

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“The upcoming EA title Battlefield 3 will be sold as a download through GameStop, but not through Steam.
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« Reply #45 on: July 19, 2011, 05:08:12 PM »
This is how Gamestop is going to keep itself relevant.  They've got this softly launched DD service that they'll nurture while their retail sales are still high, but they'll slowly use their game retailer clout to buy exclusives like this from publishers, and they'll probably raise awareness of their DD site in store while they can.  When the time comes, their DD side will be as prominent or bigger than steam and then it'll be the main part of their business as retail games slowly die out.

Battlefield 3 may seem like a small victory, but when soccer moms and kiddies start having to buy games through DD as well, Gamestop is going to be the first there to tell them all about digital distribution and, more importantly, Gamestop's DD site.

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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #46 on: July 19, 2011, 06:54:16 PM »
I just pre-ordered it off Origin. I was able to claim most of my EA Steam keys on it as well.
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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #47 on: July 20, 2011, 11:44:29 PM »
the alpha is going on and a lot of good mp footage is coming out.  this is steam's loss.  game looks super rad.


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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #48 on: July 21, 2011, 01:34:05 AM »
[youtube=560,345]0MgQMoPwGwM[/youtube]

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authentic war experience :bow2

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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #49 on: July 21, 2011, 05:44:56 AM »
looks pretty amazing. preordering on amazon today
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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #50 on: July 21, 2011, 07:26:37 AM »
playing as a sniper looks awesome: crawling in the underbrush, stabbing dudes -- like a REAL (videogame) sniper

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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #51 on: July 21, 2011, 08:22:19 AM »
it looks like a continuation of the ideas from Bad Company 2 and i am OK with that.

Bad Company 2 combined with Battlefield 2 is a good thing to me.
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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #52 on: July 21, 2011, 05:26:31 PM »
it looks like a continuation of the ideas from Bad Company 2 and i am OK with that.

Bad Company 2 combined with Battlefield 2 is a good thing to me.

This. It is whinefest at GAF though.

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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #53 on: July 21, 2011, 08:35:03 PM »
i don't really care for modern war settings, but that shit looked awesome, and as long as i can load up a jeep/humvee/whatthehellever with explosives and jihad motherfuckers i am happy
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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #54 on: July 22, 2011, 03:35:01 AM »
^ I feel that everyone cackles madly whenever they do that.

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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #55 on: July 22, 2011, 07:52:39 PM »


fluid animations in a fps? Get out of here!

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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #56 on: July 23, 2011, 03:55:36 AM »
TBH it doesn't look very impressive sans animation. Console hardware strikes again.

dont be dumb, its an alpha
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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #57 on: July 23, 2011, 07:05:07 PM »
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fluid animations in a fps? Get out of here!

Nothing about that looks right

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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #58 on: August 06, 2011, 02:14:40 AM »
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EA offers games, including Battlefield 3, to all major digital download sites. In doing so, our goal is to not only reach the widest possible global audience with our games, but also to provide ongoing customer support, patches and great new content. We are intent on providing Battlefield 3 players with the best possible experience no matter where they purchase or play the game, and are happy to partner with any download service that does not restrict our ability to connect directly with consumers.

For more on our policy to offer games to any major third party download service, please read here: http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/7372195.page

Gamers can pre-order Battlefield 3 at Origin.com as well as over 100 digital retailers worldwide. EA offers games to all major download services. Unfortunately, Steam has adopted a set of restrictive terms of service which limit how developers interact with customers to deliver patches and other downloadable content. No other download service has adopted these practices.

We are intent on providing Battlefield 3 players with the best possible experience no matter where they purchase or play their game, and are happy to partner with any download service that does not restrict our ability to connect directly with our consumers. We hope to work out an agreement where Steam can carry Battlefield 3; meanwhile, gamers can pick from the more than 100 digital retailers listed at http://www.battlefield.com/digitaldownload, or go to http://www.origin.com.

Fuck you steam.

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Re: EA snubs Steam with Battlefield 3
« Reply #59 on: August 06, 2011, 03:14:51 AM »
Battlefield was cool back in 2002; if I want an outdated FPS franchise running on fumes, Steam's already got Call of Duty.  :kylielaff
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