Author Topic: Official THE BORE NFL/Fantasy Football thread - 2011 (Read 77196 times)

Akala · « **Reply #840 on:** January 01, 2012, 08:27:55 PM »

come on fuckin SAINTS! rolllllling staaaart them playoffs. if they show up, I think they can play with anyone this year.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #841 on:** January 01, 2012, 09:08:12 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 01, 2012, 08:14:54 PM

Quote from: Stoney Mason on January 01, 2012, 07:54:46 PM
He is what he is. No training camp is going to magically transform him into a great passer or a correct decision maker. He's a dude who can scramble but can't throw for shit. There are a lot of those dudes in college.

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If he was black I think more people would be saying this.
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If he was black he wouldn't be in this position, ie starting in the NFL. He would have been benched after his first shitty performance.

Vince Young who?

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #842 on:** January 01, 2012, 11:18:35 PM »

Quote from: Flannel Boy on January 01, 2012, 09:08:12 PM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 01, 2012, 08:14:54 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on January 01, 2012, 07:54:46 PM
He is what he is. No training camp is going to magically transform him into a great passer or a correct decision maker. He's a dude who can scramble but can't throw for shit. There are a lot of those dudes in college.

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If he was black I think more people would be saying this.
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If he was black he wouldn't be in this position, ie starting in the NFL. He would have been benched after his first shitty performance.

Vince Young who?

VY is an NFL QB, I don't think Tebow is right now. IIRC Young had a shit ton of taints in his second season but his completion rate is in the high 50s, whereas Tebow's is in the high 40s.

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and Vince Young won more meaningful football games!

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Human Snorenado · « **Reply #843 on:** January 01, 2012, 11:19:21 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 01, 2012, 11:18:35 PM

Quote from: Flannel Boy on January 01, 2012, 09:08:12 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 01, 2012, 08:14:54 PM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on January 01, 2012, 07:54:46 PM
He is what he is. No training camp is going to magically transform him into a great passer or a correct decision maker. He's a dude who can scramble but can't throw for shit. There are a lot of those dudes in college.

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If he was black I think more people would be saying this.
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If he was black he wouldn't be in this position, ie starting in the NFL. He would have been benched after his first shitty performance.

Vince Young who?

VY is an NFL QB, I don't think Tebow is right now. IIRC Young had a shit ton of taints in his second season but his completion rate is in the high 50s, whereas Tebow's is in the high 40s.

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Vince was very taint-ful.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #844 on:** January 01, 2012, 11:23:52 PM »

In some ways we're arguing over a turd and shit sandwich, but I maintain Young was a lot better than Tebow, and actually capable of running an NFL offense whereas Tebow can't

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #845 on:** January 01, 2012, 11:35:00 PM »

Sanchize for Romo, do itttt

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #846 on:** January 01, 2012, 11:40:01 PM »

Name the QB

rookie season: 66.7 rating
sophomore season: 71.1 rating

rookie season: 82.1 rating
sophomore season: 77.9 rating

Really, I'm just arguing against this hyperbole:

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If he was black he wouldn't be in this position, ie starting in the NFL. He would have been benched after his first shitty performance.

Young wasn't benched until he was injured.

But since it's obviously hyperbole, whatever.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #847 on:** January 01, 2012, 11:42:47 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 01, 2012, 11:35:00 PM

Sanchize for Romo, do itttt

Cowboy fans should do this just for the girlfriends.

Sanchez is a mediocre quarterback; Romo is a good quarterback with Brett Favre disease.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #848 on:** January 01, 2012, 11:44:18 PM »

I'm pretty sure Sanchize is finished in NY. Not even Rex can defend the shit he plunked today, smh

Matt Flynn=next season's Kevin Kolb?

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #849 on:** January 01, 2012, 11:49:04 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 01, 2012, 11:44:18 PM

Matt Flynn=next season's Kevin Kolb?

Aaron Rodgers is a system quarterback confirmed. Tom Brady is the real MVP

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #850 on:** January 01, 2012, 11:53:32 PM »

I just want to see GB destroyed by NO, that's all. Their fans on GAF are insufferable, and today was the most depressing game I've seen in some time.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #851 on:** January 01, 2012, 11:55:36 PM »

Does it matter? Neither team is going to beat Denver in the Super Bowl.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #852 on:** January 02, 2012, 12:05:41 AM »

Giants

Tucah · « **Reply #853 on:** January 02, 2012, 12:39:49 AM »

As a Jets fan the only thing I can say today is get Sanchez the fuck off my team.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #854 on:** January 02, 2012, 12:44:47 AM »

trade him to Denver for draft picks!, throw money at Flynn!

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #855 on:** January 02, 2012, 06:02:07 AM »

The only thing that's left is for James Harrison to rip Tebow's head off and shit down his neck.

Akala · « **Reply #856 on:** January 02, 2012, 11:59:24 AM »

I think Flynn would be a good fit for the Jets. If the SEC is known for anything, it's for grooming AAA quarterbacks.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #857 on:** January 02, 2012, 05:36:20 PM »

whoo playoffs

Hopefully it's not like last time when the QB gets his knee blown out on the second play of the game.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #858 on:** January 02, 2012, 05:41:07 PM »

Who was this?

Mandark · « **Reply #859 on:** January 02, 2012, 06:01:28 PM »

I believe it rhymes with "Flarson Balmer."

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #860 on:** January 03, 2012, 09:15:51 PM »

Bookmark for future lols:
http://espn.go.com/espn/commentary/story/_/id/7419742/robert-griffin-iii-not-andrew-luck-right-pick-indianapolis-colts

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #861 on:** January 03, 2012, 09:23:36 PM »

Jesus, talk about wrong thread nevermind.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #862 on:** January 03, 2012, 09:43:20 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 03, 2012, 09:15:51 PM

Bookmark for future lols:
http://espn.go.com/espn/commentary/story/_/id/7419742/robert-griffin-iii-not-andrew-luck-right-pick-indianapolis-colts

I stopped reading after "By Jemele Hill".

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #863 on:** January 03, 2012, 10:11:37 PM »

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Jerry Jones, the NFL's only owner/general manager, won't even consider changing the structure of the Dallas Cowboys' front office, despite the fact that disappointing seasons have been the norm since the franchise's mid-1990s dynasty died.

"The facts are that I've spent 22 years doing this exactly the same way," Jones said Tuesday on KRLD-FM. "I've made a lot of changes from year to year as time goes along, but frankly, I know that when we do not have the kind of success, when we don't have expectations lived up to, the one that should get the most heat is the one that ultimately makes the decisions, period, with the Dallas Cowboys. And that's me."

Jones dismissed the idea of hiring a general manager from outside the organization, such as Bill Polian after the Indianapolis Colts fired the architect of their Super Bowl team. Jones emphasized that he uses information from many different sources to make football decisions.

In Jones' mind, adding a general manager to the payroll would clutter the decision-making process, not improve it.

"The thing you've got to realize is that when you have an owner that is full-time as the owner, then you create a situation where you have as much turnover at GM as you do at the coaching level," Jones said. "And I think that just deters from the mix."

The Cowboys have had six coaches, one general manager and one playoff win in the last 15 seasons.

The Cowboys just completed an 8-8 season in which they beat only one team that finished .500 or better. But Jones believes his team was talented enough to make a playoff run, and he's pleased with the coaching.

"More often than not, when you're in the kind of shape we are statistically, you're doing better in the playoffs," Jones said.

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/7418937/dallas-cowboys-owner-jerry-jones-consider-giving-gm-title

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Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #864 on:** January 03, 2012, 10:42:20 PM »

RG3 definitely has a legit NFL arm and freak speed. He also had a consistently good college career; he had a great junior year and a damn good sophomore year. Compared to Cam Newton having one year on record. But Newton turned into perhaps a once in a lifetime player and is the definition of an outlier.

Newton is also 3 inches taller than RG3 and played (and dominated) a superior conference; Luck is 2 inches taller than RG3. I think RG3 can be a solid to good QB with the right team, but he's going to be a project early imo. Luck going to the Colts could get them into the playoffs or close, assuming Manning can't start or is traded. I think Hill's idea of sitting RG3 and having him learn from Manning makes sense...but why draft a project over a sure thing, especially at QB in the NFL?

Disclaimer: I don't think Luck is the best thing ever, I'm not even sure he has more potential than Newton. But dude is legit and will only get better

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #865 on:** January 04, 2012, 04:29:08 AM »

I don't see how a quarterback apprenticeship of holding a clipboard for multiple years is more beneficial than a bunch of actual playing time in the NFL (especially for an expensive early first-round pick). Citing Rodgers-Favre, as Hill does, is just post hoc nonsense. What did Rodgers learn from Favre, who was not exactly the smartest quarterback in NFL history, that was worth three years of his career? And what was the benefit to the team?

Manning didn't need a quarterback apprenticeship and his replacement doesn't need one either.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #866 on:** January 07, 2012, 12:19:23 AM »

Broncos have a chance against the Steelers...they're banged up to shit. The problem is that Tebow could get destroyed by the Steeler defense. Still I think this could be a close game that goes down to the wire, giving Tebow a chance to win the game

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #867 on:** January 07, 2012, 12:32:10 AM »

It can only go two ways, really close or Tebow's ass cheeks getting split and the massive Steeler thrust blows a cum glazed hole through his god fearing heart

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #868 on:** January 07, 2012, 12:38:17 AM »

I am praying to Satan that James Harrison hits him hard enough to make him 'asplode right there on the field.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #869 on:** January 07, 2012, 02:33:39 AM »

It's going to be 20-6, Steelers.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #870 on:** January 07, 2012, 03:04:48 AM »

RIP Lions $:-\$

I'm not jumping ship, but I just don't see us winning. If the GB backups could torch us, lord knows what Breesus will do.

Next season our RBs will be healthy, although I think Jahvid Best will be out of the league in the next couple years. This many concussions is a bad sign and at some point he has to think about his future/health. Outside of that I hope we upgrade the secondary in the draft or FA, plus I'd love to see the o-line addressed.

Akala · « **Reply #871 on:** January 07, 2012, 06:52:50 AM »

Damned espn has gotten me nervous by hyping the game all week. Have faith, but we got run on by the Seahawks last year. Outside tho! Think they got this. Just hope Brees isn't stomped on or anything. Lions are on the up tho. If they can fill in a few gaps (and stafford can stay healthy), they're gonna be good for a while.

Dream scenario:
Saints beat lions and travel to beat niners.
Someone beats green bay in lambeau for us :p
Home conf championship game.
Super bowl against dark lord Brady. Or tebow lolol

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #872 on:** January 07, 2012, 03:24:01 PM »

(first 30 seconds)

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #873 on:** January 07, 2012, 07:20:55 PM »

Foster

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #874 on:** January 07, 2012, 08:21:08 PM »

Lions with a near perfect opening drive

Himu · « **Reply #875 on:** January 07, 2012, 08:39:45 PM »

THE TEXANS

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #876 on:** January 07, 2012, 08:57:24 PM »

Megatron!

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #877 on:** January 07, 2012, 08:57:36 PM »

If Detroit actually wins, I want PD to come in here and apologize for not having any faith in his team.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #878 on:** January 07, 2012, 09:00:49 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on January 07, 2012, 08:57:36 PM

If Detroit actually wins, I want PD to come in here and apologize for not having any faith in his team.

I'm a practical fan. Our run defense looks bad and while we have pressured Breesus a bit, he's still hitting his targets. Our offense looks great but I'm getting scared of Shaun Rogers

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #879 on:** January 07, 2012, 09:01:24 PM »

Both defenses look awful. Stop poo-pooing your team!

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #880 on:** January 07, 2012, 09:10:52 PM »

Refs fucking us blowing that fumble dead

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #881 on:** January 07, 2012, 09:35:39 PM »

Good hold there. This should be 21-10 if not for bullshit refs

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #882 on:** January 07, 2012, 09:35:58 PM »

That game should've already been 14-10 before kick-off.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #883 on:** January 07, 2012, 10:02:44 PM »

Pathetic officiating

Akala · « **Reply #884 on:** January 07, 2012, 10:11:22 PM »

Yeah. Still

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #885 on:** January 07, 2012, 10:18:55 PM »

the absolute worst display of officiating I've ever seen.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #886 on:** January 07, 2012, 10:20:44 PM »

Stafford with the gutsy run. I love this kid

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #887 on:** January 07, 2012, 10:23:26 PM »

I love Stafford

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #888 on:** January 07, 2012, 10:24:17 PM »

game is much better than I thought it'd be. Go Lions.

Akala · « **Reply #889 on:** January 07, 2012, 10:24:45 PM »

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #890 on:** January 07, 2012, 10:46:20 PM »

That's game. Our defense is horrible despite so much talent on the def line. I don't get it

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #891 on:** January 07, 2012, 10:50:43 PM »

womp womp/

I blame your awful secondary and the refs.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #892 on:** January 07, 2012, 10:52:52 PM »

Our secondary sucks but that doesn't explain our inability to stop a decent run game

Akala · « **Reply #893 on:** January 07, 2012, 10:53:55 PM »

Come onnnnn boys

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #894 on:** January 07, 2012, 11:20:33 PM »

Grats to the Saints. I take comfort knowing they're going to expose the 49ers next weekend

Akala · « **Reply #895 on:** January 07, 2012, 11:22:09 PM »

Oh god I hope so. Sorry for the loss PD. See the lions stickin around for a few years tho.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #896 on:** January 08, 2012, 01:03:21 AM »

The Lions just need a running game and maybe some help in the secondary.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #897 on:** January 08, 2012, 01:12:25 AM »

Maybe? A back up torched us for nearly 500 yards.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #898 on:** January 08, 2012, 01:16:53 AM »

Yeah, but I think if your offense wasn't so one dimensional and could keep you on the field longer you'd be most of the way there. Keep in mind that even if you have awesome dudes in the secondary it's not like they're really allowed to do shit these days.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #899 on:** January 08, 2012, 01:21:37 AM »

Agreed, some semblance of a run game would definitely help and keep defenses honest. I think we need help on the o-line for that, which hopefully we address in the draft. I'm bummed we'll most likely spend another high draft pick on an RB though, with LeShoure recovering from the torn ACL and Jahvid Best being 1-2 concussions from being out the league. $:-\$

But there's no excuse for our shitty secondary. The LB core has been greatly improved but I'd also love to see more focus ther

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