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TBS Cancels ‘Lopez Tonight’
By BILL CARTER
3:50 p.m. | Updated TBS on Wednesday cancelled George Lopez’s late-night show, less than a year after the network moved “Lopez Tonight” from 11 p.m. to midnight to make room for Conan O’Brien.


Kevin Scanlon for The New York Times
George Lopez’s talk show will end after Thursday’s edition.
The decision seemed abrupt; TBS announced Mr. Lopez’s show will end after Thursday’s edition. But inside Turner Entertainment, which programs TBS, the move has been much discussed in recent months as ratings for Mr. Lopez’s show continued to decline.

The network’s contract called for a decision on a third year of “Lopez Tonight” to be made by Aug. 15. TBS brought Mr. Lopez to its presentation for advertisers in May, indicating that the show might continue into another season. But that was always dependent on some better news in the ratings.

“The bottom line is the show didn’t work,” a Turner executive said Wednesday, asking not to be identified because the company’s official position was to withhold all comment on the decision. “It just wasn’t profitable.”

Last year, when TBS brought in Mr. O’Brien after his widely publicized exit from NBC, both network executives and Mr. Lopez made statements that the shift to midnight was totally amicable. Mr. Lopez even cast the move as his own suggestion.

The network had hoped to create a popular two-hour block of late-night comedy. But after a strong start, Mr. O’Brien’s ratings began to fall off and Mr. Lopez’s audience fell sharply. Recently his audience has hovered around an average of 400,000 viewers a night, with just a 0.2 rating among the 18-to-49 year old viewers sought by most advertisers. Both figures were the lowest among late-night shows with the familiar desk-and-guests format.

More significantly, TBS executives concluded that Mr. Lopez was not generating the kind of social-media reaction that they were seeing from Mr. O’Brien’s show. They checked out sites that replay clips from late-night shows and felt Mr. Lopez did not have the presence there of other late-night cable shows, including Mr. O’Brien’s and Chelsea Handler’s on the E network, as well as the two powerhouse late-night shows on Comedy Central, “The Daily Show” and “The Colbert Report.”

TBS announced the decision Wednesday in what seemed an unusually perfunctory way, issuing a statement attributed not even to a specific executive but only to a “network spokesperson.”

In the statement, TBS called Mr. Lopez “an immensely talented comedian and entertainer,” and that the network had “valued its partnership with George.”

For the next few weeks, TBS plans to fill the hour with repeats of “Lopez Tonight” and after that will insert reruns of the NBC sit-com “The Office.”

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Joe Molotov

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"Hardworking" and "accommodating" but unfortunately not "funny".
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Smooth Groove

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Hardworking hispanic?

:rofl

That's funnier than anything on George's show. 

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:rofl @ thread title
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Stoney Mason

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The ironic part is that Conan complained about the crappy lead in ratings he got from leno at 10:00 and he always use to complain about the lack of promotion when he was at 12:30.

For what it's worth even though I generally like him (Conan I mean) I actually don't think his show has been consistently good on TBS at all.

Himu

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I stopped watching his show. I forgot it even comes on because I don't watch TBS
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Stoney Mason

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I stopped watching his show. I forgot it even comes on because I don't watch TBS

I kinda thought being free of a network would liberate his show and make it more unconventional. But that really hasn't happened from what I've seen. I think I'm just bored with that format of traditional talk show. It seems kinda irrelevant.

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I agree. I wish he just made a skit show on Comedy Central.
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"Hardworking" and "accommodating" but unfortunately not "funny".

Conan isn't funny either, and his show is bombing
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conan got eclipsed by ferguson in hipness and daring


Olivia Wilde Homo

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Conan was never that funny. :tomato

People just overrated him when Leno sonned him.  Keep in mind that most of the Team Coco people never really bothered to watch the show when it was on NBC by their own admission.  It isn't surprising that they're not watching him on TBS.  Team Coco was just another shitty meme that a major network mistakenly took seriously and wiped out an unfunny late night talk show in the process.
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Himu

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Conan has had fans well before the Leno debacle. ??? And Conan is very funny, just in the right context. His skits are very well written.
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and let us never forget his excellent work on the simpsons
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Himu

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yeah, i'm sorry but "conan was never funny" ain't cutting it
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'that funny'. What T EXP says is true. People just watched the best bits on youtube.
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In college I'd watch Late Night about every night. At one point it was must watch tv.
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well there weren't enough people like you then
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Stoney Mason

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Nobody on Late Night talk shows is consistently great every night or indeed over time. I honestly thought Conan's heyday was actually many years ago when he was hungrier and struggling. Once he really "hit it big" and got comfortable with the show I never thought the show was quite of the same quality even though he is and can be still very funny at times.

I personally grew up with Letterman and when he was at his peak nobody I've seen has ever been close. But he didn't stay at his peak either despite occasional stretches of brilliance that he still displays. The reason people watch these shows isn't because they are typically brilliant every night because clearly they aren't. What people are looking for are those occasional magic moments and the good hosts are able to provide enough of those that you feel like you don't want to miss the show.

Of course youtube and instant media has changed this dynamic a great deal the general principle still stands.

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I began with Carson and Letterman, then followed Letterman wit the CBS move and then later began watching Conan and followed him to the Tonight show and then later started catching Ferguson. There's good parts to all of them. I'm honestly not sure why people watch Leno though.

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I like Ferguson. I mean he's the only one who is smart enough to know who Kierkegaard is.
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Conan has had fans well before the Leno debacle. ??? And Conan is very funny, just in the right context. His skits are very well written.

You missed the point of my post.

My statement was not that Conan did not have fans before the Leno debacle, my statement is that TBS grossly overestimated the ratings draw of bringing in Conan to their network.  In fact, the estimates were so far off that it killed another late night talk show in collateral damage from their miscalculation.  TBS overestimated those ratings because of the internet hype of Team Coco; they assumed that they would draw in millions of permanent TBS viewers at this time block (given internet trends), with some of those ratings pumping up the ratings of George Lopez.  It is even stated in the article:

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The network had hoped to create a popular two-hour block of late-night comedy. But after a strong start, Mr. O’Brien’s ratings began to fall off and Mr. Lopez’s audience fell sharply. Recently his audience has hovered around an average of 400,000 viewers a night, with just a 0.2 rating among the 18-to-49 year old viewers sought by most advertisers. Both figures were the lowest among late-night shows with the familiar desk-and-guests format.

TBS's scheme was to bring on Conan, have the millions of Twitter followers of Team Coco watch the show (after all, they made such a big deal about it that they would be faithful watchers amirite?), and then have some people remain to watch Lopez.  What they forget is that Twitter trends don't mean much in the long term, ratings for Conan "began to fall off" and it killed another show.

They're not the first ones to fall for internet hype (the White House has fallen for it several times).  That is the point of my post.  Except my personal opinion about Conan's stuff.  I've laughed at some of his stuff but I don't find it uproariously funny.
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Stoney Mason

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I've suggested it before in another thread but if you actually want insight into how the whole thing went down, the war for late night is a pretty balanced take on what went down with the whole conan/leno thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_for_Late_Night

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I've suggested it before in another thread but if you actually want insight into how the whole thing went down, the war for late night is a pretty balanced take on what went down with the whole conan/leno thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_for_Late_Night

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Late Night with Conan O'Brien is still my favorite talk show.

Ditto

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I like Ferguson. I mean he's the only one who is smart enough to know who Kierkegaard is.

And he loves Doctor Who! :bow2
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