Author Topic: Which would you guys choose? (basic sign design) (Read 1867 times)

BlueTsunami · « **on:** August 14, 2011, 01:27:33 AM »

I have absolutely no Graphical Design training so most of the shit I know is by piecing together techniques I've learned over the years. But, aesthetically, I have no real experience or knowledge in this area . So with that out of the way here are some basic shit I threw together (nothing amazing). Just the fact that I have photoshop makes me a contestant #1 to this family member. Here they are...

And without blending

She seemingly wants something very simple (which could mean just text which she specified, Segoe UI "Light"). I vectorized a rose my father had hand drawn and implemented that and I think it adds a nice bit of flourish and personality without taking away from its simplicity. The reason for the color is she sounded like she wanted red somewhere in there so I thought outlining of the simple text would be a good way to get it in there. I personally like the black overlay outlined by red text but I'm not sure if that scheme is generally regarded as garish. It certainly pops off the screen.

Himu · « **Reply #1 on:** August 14, 2011, 01:35:57 AM »

Last one.

Nice and simple. No outline or border is needed. Though, one suggestion. Make the rose on the last one red.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #2 on:** August 14, 2011, 01:36:32 AM »

Yep, I agree. The last one looks the best.

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #3 on:** August 14, 2011, 01:41:42 AM »

I like the last one. Just shop the typeface 'O' to the rose so it fits in and make it red.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #4 on:** August 14, 2011, 01:45:02 AM »

Funnily I didn't consider doing it with a lack of border till now. The border seems to take away the nice and thin feel of the font too. I was also having that same issue with the vectorized rose, the ends lost their points and it just looked chunky. I have a feeling she'll chose one of the last two.

Quote from: Fresh Prince on August 14, 2011, 01:41:42 AM

I like the last one. Just shop the typeface 'O' to the rose so it fits in and make it red.

That's a good idea about the 'O' and the red, I'll have to play with that. I may add some simple geometric red shapes to the back and see how that looks.

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #5 on:** August 14, 2011, 01:53:25 AM »

That typeface -now I'm no expert- it depends if it's going on printed material, online it looks good but if it's going on business cards might look a bit anemic. I think somebody here has done design.

Actually you can move the petals to 'fill in' the 'O' in negative space if you get what I mean.

Himu · « **Reply #6 on:** August 14, 2011, 01:56:47 AM »

That font is fine for business cards.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #7 on:** August 14, 2011, 02:00:45 AM »

And she wants this for the actual sign for her Salon (supposed dimensions are 23 by 35 inches) but I can see her using it in her business card too. Gotta wonder if the simple typeface without anything else to draw the eye would be impactful enough.

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #8 on:** August 14, 2011, 02:05:22 AM »

Maybe red background with white font for the sign. Business cards could be black & white to keep costs down.

Himu · « **Reply #9 on:** August 14, 2011, 02:08:31 AM »

Quote from: BlueTsunami on August 14, 2011, 02:00:45 AM

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And she wants this for the actual sign for her Salon (supposed dimensions are 23 by 35 inches) but I can see her using it in her business card too. Gotta wonder if the simple typeface without anything else to draw the eye would be impactful enough.

Not necessary.

It's fine the way it is. Just color the rose red.

G The Resurrected · « **Reply #10 on:** August 14, 2011, 02:14:19 AM »

I would say that the last one is the best. My personal touch would be to color the rose red and have it color fade into black. Blending it into the sign connects the consumers to the product and reinforces the visual impact of the name.

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #11 on:** August 14, 2011, 02:16:10 AM »

Usually you don't do gradients for logos.

Himu · « **Reply #12 on:** August 14, 2011, 02:21:29 AM »

Actually, gradients in logos are en vogue these days, but it's usually associated with technology to create shiny, clean, sleek look. A gradient for this logo isn't necessary.

etiolate · « **Reply #13 on:** August 14, 2011, 02:26:50 AM »

The last one. The red and black with the rose makes me think of the Pasadena rose parade and hte Rose Bowl.

drew · « **Reply #14 on:** August 14, 2011, 02:46:46 AM »

second to last blended one

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #15 on:** August 14, 2011, 02:48:13 AM »

Here's some more with red included...

Definitely not feeling large gradients in this

Quote from: G The Resurrected on August 14, 2011, 02:14:19 AM

I would say that the last one is the best. My personal touch would be to color the rose red and have it color fade into black. Blending it into the sign connects the consumers to the product and reinforces the visual impact of the name.

I actually tried the gradient and it looks a little too much like a dot or a round object that had volume. It looked nice with the rose but sort of clashed with the flat look of the text.

drew · « **Reply #16 on:** August 14, 2011, 02:50:57 AM »

outline/shadow the stem with green

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #17 on:** August 14, 2011, 02:57:06 AM »

The first one is shaped similar to the typography, the second is the original. It's all rough so you can clean it up if you want.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #18 on:** August 14, 2011, 03:17:32 AM »

Quote from: Fresh Prince on August 14, 2011, 02:57:06 AM

The first one is shaped similar to the typography, the second is the original. It's all rough so you can clean it up if you want.

Yeah, I like the way that looks. More playing around and experimenting...

Quote from: drew on August 14, 2011, 02:50:57 AM

outline/shadow the stem with green

Thanks for the suggestion, drew. I tried that and it didn't turn out too well (tried outlining and filling). Generally like it solid red.

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #19 on:** August 14, 2011, 03:26:36 AM »

That pink is good. Actually put the words like this
SALON
DE LA
ROSA

With the schemes of the first and second might look a bit better. But then you might need to change the font to make it stand out a bit more due to a smaller size. Decisions....

demi · « **Reply #20 on:** August 14, 2011, 03:29:36 AM »

Don't use a drop shadow, or any shadow

I dont know what this is going to be used for, but if its for a business card just use a nice font that gets it across

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #21 on:** August 14, 2011, 03:36:33 AM »

This is for a sign she'll be putting up (I'm guessing facing out the window) of her salon. I like the basic look of the font, straight up but for a sign I'm thinking she wants a little more to it. I have a feeling she'll want to use the basic font for her business card though (if she hasn't already).

Tieno · « **Reply #22 on:** August 14, 2011, 03:42:32 AM »

checkout
http://designshack.co.uk for some inspiration.
http://designshack.co.uk/category/articles/typography/

demi · « **Reply #23 on:** August 14, 2011, 03:50:29 AM »

Quote from: BlueTsunami on August 14, 2011, 03:36:33 AM

This is for a sign she'll be putting up (I'm guessing facing out the window) of her salon. I like the basic look of the font, straight up but for a sign I'm thinking she wants a little more to it. I have a feeling she'll want to use the basic font for her business card though (if she hasn't already).

I think this applies the best, then

http://k.min.us/ib5KcwrCm.jpg

(the middle)

CrystalGemini · « **Reply #24 on:** August 14, 2011, 07:33:48 AM »

Agree with Demi. No shadows. No gradients. Keep it simple, modern and minimalist. Black and white with one accent color is all you need. Any more and it'll over-complicate the whole image.

Tieno · « **Reply #25 on:** August 14, 2011, 07:43:39 AM »

Add shadows, gradients and lens flare. Web 0.1!

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #26 on:** August 14, 2011, 08:55:24 AM »

agee'd that simple black text white backround with a red color'd rose works the best

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #27 on:** August 14, 2011, 12:36:22 PM »

Thanks guys, I can't believe I started out this design with a neon red looking outline for the text

. The simple text and red rose does look elegant, I'm happy with that.

Quote from: Tieno on August 14, 2011, 03:42:32 AM

checkout
http://designshack.co.uk for some inspiration.
http://designshack.co.uk/category/articles/typography/

Bookmarked these, thanks!

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #28 on:** August 14, 2011, 02:57:14 PM »

Got some critiques off line and didn't consider this color scheme...

I like it the best since the black and red combination works very well but not sure how practical having a black canvas with white text is when it comes to printing a large sign. Would look sexy as a business card too.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #29 on:** August 14, 2011, 03:01:40 PM »

That looks really good.

rodi · « **Reply #30 on:** August 14, 2011, 03:23:55 PM »

Yup, that one. The words really pop out at you, and the rose is instantly noticeable.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #31 on:** August 14, 2011, 03:26:43 PM »

Quote from: BlueTsunami on August 14, 2011, 02:57:14 PM

Got some critiques off line and didn't consider this color scheme...

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I like it the best since the black and red combination works very well but not sure how practical having a black canvas with white text is when it comes to printing a large sign. Would look sexy as a business card too.

The best one yet by far...

demi · « **Reply #32 on:** August 14, 2011, 03:34:18 PM »

I don't really like all black, it might be ok as a smaller card but for a bigger sign you want it to pop, stand out

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #33 on:** August 14, 2011, 03:41:48 PM »

The rose is not good, get rid of it. Just the plain text looks fine but the rose adds confusion and most people will read it as Salon De La R Sa, De La RDSA, or even De La Rgsa, not De La Rosa. Remember, people are dumb and anything like that will confuse them. The plain O there will look leagues better. If anything throw the Rose in between the two statements so its Salon *rose picture * De La Rosa.

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #34 on:** August 14, 2011, 03:43:11 PM »

Matt black with gloss white and red might work. Edit the rose is fine

demi · « **Reply #35 on:** August 14, 2011, 03:47:06 PM »

The rose is fine... gives it that latino flavor

Akala · « **Reply #36 on:** August 14, 2011, 04:48:59 PM »

I dunno about the black for a main sign...would make a decent t-shirt scheme though.

the white is a lot more visible.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #37 on:** August 14, 2011, 04:59:34 PM »

http://k.min.us/ib5KcwrCm.jpg

The one at the bottom is the best so far, imo. It's so tasteful people would think you're a pro at this.

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #38 on:** August 14, 2011, 05:12:33 PM »

pink > red imo

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #39 on:** August 14, 2011, 06:00:29 PM »

Reworked the rose, it was looking a little lumpy before (due to being rusty with the vector tool). The three new versions are more defined with the last one being the least abstract (and I made it a point to pay attention to the way the inner lines flowed)...

The first being the prototype, the second is the one I actually used in the examples in this thread and the three after are the newest ones.

Here's the sign with the newest rose...

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #40 on:** August 14, 2011, 06:15:13 PM »

Perfect. You got this.

Himu · « **Reply #41 on:** August 14, 2011, 06:32:13 PM »

Perfect.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #42 on:** August 15, 2011, 07:49:54 PM »

Just an update. She ended up choosing the simple black under white text with red rose. Not being sure about the process involved to print such a sign I'm burning her two TIFF's of the black/white version and the white/black version. One TIFF weighed in at 500mb and had to learn the hard way that saving a TIFF with layers still in place makes them huge (2.2GB). Once its in place at the Salon I'll probably take a photograph of it.

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #43 on:** August 15, 2011, 07:55:16 PM »

Pretty sure you can just give a vector file (whatever Adobe product it is), blue.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #44 on:** August 16, 2011, 02:55:56 AM »

I like the above one too.

CrystalGemini · « **Reply #45 on:** August 16, 2011, 03:06:32 AM »

Fun fact: in certain types of colorblindness black and red are indistinguishable. So black background with a red rose/"o" and the rose disappears altogether. This occurs in a somewhat small percentage of the population (more in males than female) so it's not something to really worry about.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #46 on:** August 16, 2011, 03:59:59 AM »

I want to meet a colour blind racist.

Bildi · « **Reply #47 on:** August 17, 2011, 12:37:10 AM »

Presumably they wouldn't be able to tell Africans from Soviets.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #48 on:** August 17, 2011, 01:38:44 AM »

you came up with a pretty badass logo blue, props

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Author Topic: Which would you guys choose? (basic sign design) (Read 1867 times)