Author Topic: Xenoblade Chronicles (Read 40736 times)

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #240 on:** August 24, 2011, 02:49:50 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on August 24, 2011, 11:02:57 AM

sales on this sure showed reggie what-for

less than 7k first week in the uk

AHUAHUAHUAHUA

ps I don't like Reggie for many reasons (condescending pr mouthpiece for one), but NoA's policies make SENSE regarding localizations. Our only hope is that the WiiU estore will be capable of cost-effectively releasing some of their xenoblade type stuff.

magus · « **Reply #241 on:** August 24, 2011, 04:09:34 PM »

well after what seems like it was forever i think i'm done with most of the quest pre-earth sea or whatever it's called

all that questing brought frontier colony to a 3 star rating and colony 9 to a 4-star rating! after bringing frontier colony to 3 star,one of the nopon had a very interessing item for trade!

party is level 44,i think i'm levelled well enough for the next zone and the zone after

magus · « **Reply #242 on:** August 25, 2011, 11:09:34 AM »

cleared the tomb dungeon so i guess prison island is next... is that when most of the quest stop being avaiable? all of the quest in this new place have a clock too so i'm really worried that they are going to time-out

i also got colony 6 to level 2,the reward you get for helping the colony are way much better compared to all the other shit the game throws at you

demi · « **Reply #243 on:** August 25, 2011, 11:30:39 AM »

I haven't bothered with quests. Waste of time... Game isn't even that hard without doing them.

I'm sooo close to the end of the game. Like, within the next day I'll be done. Game is absolutely amazing. They throw on a ton of story at the end too. Lots of "woah" - "wat" - "wtf"

Bebpo · « **Reply #244 on:** August 25, 2011, 01:57:48 PM »

And you haven't even seen the final area yet

Bebpo · « **Reply #245 on:** August 25, 2011, 01:58:27 PM »

Quote from: magus on August 25, 2011, 11:09:34 AM

cleared the tomb dungeon so i guess prison island is next... is that when most of the quest stop being avaiable? all of the quest in this new place have a clock too so i'm really worried that they are going to time-out

i also got colony 6 to level 2,the reward you get for helping the colony are way much better compared to all the other shit the game throws at you

I think quests are still good until

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the end of the sword

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demi · « **Reply #246 on:** August 25, 2011, 02:07:24 PM »

If it is, I never received a warning about it... I thought you are supposed to be warned?

Bebpo · « **Reply #247 on:** August 25, 2011, 02:24:58 PM »

Actually nm, the point of no return for timed quests is

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the top of the mech continent

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iirc.

Or maybe it's even further. I'm pretty sure it warns you.

demi · « **Reply #248 on:** August 25, 2011, 02:26:19 PM »

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Is it before you have to fight Egil? Cause Agna Ratha blew up and I still didn't get a warning.

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Bebpo · « **Reply #249 on:** August 25, 2011, 02:48:13 PM »

Maybe? I don't remember exactly. Been too long.

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Where was Agna Rantha?

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archie4208 · « **Reply #250 on:** August 25, 2011, 02:52:01 PM »

How long does it take to beat the game if I do minimal sidequests? I'm like 5 hours in and I'm

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trying to find Juju

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. Most of the sidequests seem to be "kill x" or "find y" which are pretty monotonous.

Also this game is pretty badass. Best RPG in a decade. I like it more than The Witcher 2.

demi · « **Reply #251 on:** August 25, 2011, 02:58:31 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on August 25, 2011, 02:48:13 PM

Maybe? I don't remember exactly. Been too long.
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Where was Agna Rantha?
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The top, where you learn about the history

demi · « **Reply #252 on:** August 25, 2011, 02:59:11 PM »

Quote from: archie4208 on August 25, 2011, 02:52:01 PM

How long does it take to beat the game if I do minimal sidequests? I'm like 5 hours in and I'm
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trying to find Juju
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. Most of the sidequests seem to be "kill x" or "find y" which are pretty monotonous.

Also this game is pretty badass. Best RPG in a decade. I like it more than The Witcher 2.

I dont bother with sidequests, just do the ones that come my way, and I'm about to hit 50 hours and I'm very near the end.

60 minimum...

Bebpo · « **Reply #253 on:** August 25, 2011, 04:36:58 PM »

Yeah, you still have about 10 hours to go storywise. Then if you want to do the bonus dungeons and take out all the uniques you'll add some hours getting from lvl.80-97 or so.

Game is basically 60 hours of plot, 60 hours of sidequests.

Bebpo · « **Reply #254 on:** August 25, 2011, 04:37:27 PM »

Quote from: demi on August 25, 2011, 02:58:31 PM

Quote from: Bebpo on August 25, 2011, 02:48:13 PM
Maybe? I don't remember exactly. Been too long.
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Where was Agna Rantha?
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The top, where you learn about the history

That doesn't matter outside the quests from the

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robots

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that take place there. Those are extremely short timed. None of them give any unique loot though, so it doesn't matter if you miss them.

magus · « **Reply #255 on:** August 25, 2011, 06:05:33 PM »

whelp i finished prison tower,it's nice to see the plot advancing a little after what was an eternity of filler

story spoiler

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the return of fiora was what gaf actualy spoiled but to be fair it was already kind of guessable when they showed MYSTERIOUS GIRL INSIDE ROBOT especialy coming from game like xenogears

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character are mentioning the sword so i guess it's not long until i come from the point where sidequests become unavaiable? i hope they don't have to fight a yeti on the next mountain to proceed or something $:-\$

i got heavy armor on sharla...

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #256 on:** August 25, 2011, 06:25:34 PM »

Played 8.5 hours so far, haven't been this attached to a JRPG since the PS1 days.

demi · « **Reply #257 on:** August 25, 2011, 07:04:44 PM »

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST THIS GAME GOES BATSHIT INSANE AT THE END

GOTY

Bebpo · « **Reply #258 on:** August 25, 2011, 07:07:05 PM »

Did you finish it?

demi · « **Reply #259 on:** August 25, 2011, 07:13:21 PM »

Not yet

iconoclast · « **Reply #260 on:** August 26, 2011, 03:56:33 AM »

Do you have to go back to the beginning city every time you want to make new gems and such? And I suppose that's where they sell items as well? I'm 7 hrs in, level 22 and I've never gone back once, so I still only have the 3 gems I got at the beginning. That's a pretty big inconvenience.

Also, dolphin build 7714 runs the game perfectly. Zero issues so far.

naff · « **Reply #261 on:** August 26, 2011, 04:05:28 AM »

Quote from: iconoclast on August 26, 2011, 03:56:33 AM

I'm 7 hrs in, level 22 and I've never gone back once, so I still only have the 3 gems I got at the beginning. That's a pretty big inconvenience.

Select Maps (leftmost icon on menu) choose Colony 9 - Gem Man, and you warp there instantly. You'll have heaps of crap to craft into gems. I don't like the gem crafting either, long and tedious

magus · « **Reply #262 on:** August 26, 2011, 05:45:59 AM »

Quote from: iconoclast on August 26, 2011, 03:56:33 AM

Do you have to go back to the beginning city every time you want to make new gems and such? And I suppose that's where they sell items as well? I'm 7 hrs in, level 22 and I've never gone back once, so I still only have the 3 gems I got at the beginning. That's a pretty big inconvenience.

Also, dolphin build 7714 runs the game perfectly. Zero issues so far.

you get the ability to craft on spot after finishing a certain quest

to be more spoilerish

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when you start rebuilding colony 6

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I don't like the gem crafting either, long and tedious

you just pick the crystal and the rest is automaticaly... what's long and tedious about it?

demi · « **Reply #263 on:** August 26, 2011, 09:33:33 AM »

You guys make gems?

I didnt make a single one...

Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #264 on:** August 26, 2011, 12:16:41 PM »

Im 7 hrs in, Lvl 19 and made a shit load of gems -- all of them tier 1, tho :'(

I did most of the side quests in Colony 9 and I thought I was really, really rich but spending it on those Art books pretty much drains all my funds. There's no other way of boosting your Art's skill cap, right?

Quote from: archie4208 on August 25, 2011, 02:52:01 PM

Also this game is pretty badass. Best RPG in a decade. I like it more than The Witcher 2.

It's up there for sure. The battle system/combat in Xenoblade actually makes sense and isn't a sub-par action-game clone.

demi · « **Reply #265 on:** August 26, 2011, 12:26:31 PM »

You buy Art Books to raise it to Intermediate, then you get Advanced from quests or drops

Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #266 on:** August 26, 2011, 12:32:44 PM »

so in theory I don't have to buy any Art books and can skip straight to Advanced without the books?

wish I knew that! I wouldn't have bought half the books I did

demi · « **Reply #267 on:** August 26, 2011, 12:33:23 PM »

I'm not sure, never found an Advanced book I didnt already buy.

Advanced books are like... near the end of the game. You are better off just buying the books. You get tons of equipment from drops from enemies, so wasting your money on equipment isn't worth it.

Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #268 on:** August 26, 2011, 12:53:44 PM »

makes sense, thanks -- I thought I bought a high-level weapon from the merchant just before Garu(?) Plains, but than I found an even better weapon from a random loot drop, just in the next area. I was like, "agh! my moolah"

demi · « **Reply #269 on:** August 26, 2011, 12:57:04 PM »

Yeah. Just equip the main characters you use. Buy only the books for skills you use primarily. The rest will just fall into place. Also accept every quest you come across. Since they are Kill X and Collect Y, that's pretty much free money and XP.

This game isn't difficult, just go at your own pace, you dont have to dedicate to questing.

magus · « **Reply #270 on:** August 26, 2011, 02:44:05 PM »

Quote from: demi on August 26, 2011, 09:33:33 AM

You guys make gems?

I didnt make a single one...

gemming dunban with 2-3 agility up IV gems make the game even more piss easy and all it takes are some random trip to the closest wind crystal source

you guys shouldn't bother with gem making until you got 2 character to their maximum level of friendship at which point getting better gems becomes much much easier

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"agh! my moolah"

i literaly don't know what to do with my money to the point i'm happy art manuals and that money wasting sidequest exist because otherwise i would have nothing to buy,i wouldn't bother with the quest so much if they didn't have that thing with the town rating... named NPC start to trade a lot of interessing items when you get a town to level 3 so i can only wonder all the awesome stuff they stop hoarding when you max it up

it's a good thing that the shop in colony 6 stocked up on good heavy armor,because that was pretty much the last time i bought something from a shop that wasn't an art manual

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #271 on:** August 26, 2011, 04:56:36 PM »

Satorl Marsh is amazing at night, plus the theme is just perfect. Reminds me of that one night-time scene from Avatar.

[youtube=560,345]9BvWPzAg8Ig[/youtube]

naff · « **Reply #272 on:** August 26, 2011, 05:19:52 PM »

Quote from: magus on August 26, 2011, 05:45:59 AM

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I don't like the gem crafting either, long and tedious
you just pick the crystal and the rest is automaticaly... what's long and tedious about it?

Uh, that takes even longer, I was getting tier 2 gems at the beginning because y'know, I was playing the (crappy) minigame properly. With Shulk - Reyn combo you want to tap A on a hot flame so Shulk shoots faster and because Reyn is GREAT on hot flame you get better gems, then you can do stuff like combining crystals to make near 100% cylinders so you can combine two and easily break from lvl 1 resources to lvl 2 gems. Anyway, pick you to defend one of the only crappy aspects of the game

magus · « **Reply #273 on:** August 26, 2011, 05:55:55 PM »

you want to tap A on a hot flame so shulk shoots faster?

pressing A just skip all the animation,the result is totaly random,the fact that reyn is great on hot flame just means that reyn get more hot flames than other character,and with high affinity you don't really need to bother with cylinders at all,just mash some crystal with high properties and PRESTO! high level gems

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pick you to defend one of the only crappy aspects of the game

making gems is fun and usefull and takes 30 seconds top,watching shulk swim for several minute in a lake so he can find enemies that are 30 level highers than him is not

naff · « **Reply #274 on:** August 26, 2011, 06:09:11 PM »

Quote from: magus on August 26, 2011, 05:55:55 PM

you want to tap A on a hot flame so shulk shoots faster?

pressing A just skip all the animation,the result is totaly random

Oh, wow. It's actually a worse minigame than I thought. I thought there was at least some meaning to my input (I always mashed A on the hot flame

) :/

magus · « **Reply #275 on:** August 26, 2011, 06:37:22 PM »

well you get some control with the two character you pick,the first character you pick comes with a special skill... shulk has better chance to get in fever mode which gives you several raises in a row,reyn gets more point when hitting hot....

for example if you wanted to make a lot of cylinders you would pick sharla as the first character since she gets a "cylinder bonus" and another character that's good at gentle flame (dunban i think?)

but really it's just a matter of finding a few crystals with high properties (i have seen as high as 90%) and just mash the two of them to get all the cool stat raising IV gems

demi · « **Reply #276 on:** August 26, 2011, 07:37:36 PM »

I dont use stat raising gems. I stick with stuff like Topple Resist, Chill Plus, Blaze Plus (these 2 are for Riki) - etc.

Bebpo · « **Reply #277 on:** August 26, 2011, 09:08:00 PM »

Gems are great. Especially the level IV/V ones. The crafting system is kind of tedious, but it's worth crafting most of the time.

demi, finish the storyyyyy; I don't know anyone whose finished it. Most of the people who imported loved it but eventually dropped it before the ending.

demi · « **Reply #278 on:** August 26, 2011, 09:36:06 PM »

Sorry, I've been out today... will finish it this weekend. I'm like a couple boss fights from the end. I will finish it.

HUGE SPOILERS ONLY FOR BEBPO

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About to fight Dickson

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demi · « **Reply #279 on:** August 27, 2011, 02:49:19 AM »

Final Boss is complete fucking bullshit.

I'm Level 76 and apparently I am so weak against him, I can't hit him -at all- so all my attacks whiff. And you can't save or "level up" past a certain point, so now I have to take the time to grind so I can at least hit the fucking guy.

Fuck this piece of shit game

Damian79 · « **Reply #280 on:** August 27, 2011, 03:32:05 AM »

WTF you cant even hit the guy? WTF. Is it like you die and you get a cutscene telling you that you got to do something?

demi · « **Reply #281 on:** August 27, 2011, 10:27:01 AM »

No cutscene or anything, just "lol u died". It was fuckign distinguished mentally-challenged. I'm at the final boss, let me kick his ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But no, now I gotta grind to at least 80.

magus · « **Reply #282 on:** August 27, 2011, 11:58:55 AM »

is the boss that high level? you should have a decent chance to hit it if his window name is at least yellow... are you sure there isn't any bullshit at work like the jungle boss?

anyway i'm wrapping up some more quest and one of them gave me a new battle skill... a quest with a usefull reward *gasp*

also after i did some more trading and i got myself an AP UP V,which increase AP gains by 50%,that's really awesome,i'm going to slap this on shulk so he can max up monado buster,that's really going to hurt

demi · « **Reply #283 on:** August 27, 2011, 02:25:50 PM »

One of the bosses was 80, and he was yellow. The final final boss is red. While his minions are 80, and yellow.

Bebpo · « **Reply #284 on:** August 27, 2011, 02:37:45 PM »

Yeah I don't have any tips for the final boss. When I got to endgame I went and did all the bonus dungeons and killed all the uniques and was lvl.97 when I fought him and it was pretty easy.

demi · « **Reply #285 on:** August 27, 2011, 02:41:49 PM »

What are the secret Monado skills? I'm curious how you change the future for some moves.

I know

- White text w/ Number - use Shield
- Physical attacks - use Speed
- Purple attacks - ?
- Red Attacks - ?

Is there nothing you can really do? Outside of toppling.

magus · « **Reply #286 on:** August 27, 2011, 05:06:39 PM »

not that i know off... the only extra monado skill i got is

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called devour and it removes buff AND deals damage,the damage it deals it's pathethic though

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demi · « **Reply #287 on:** August 28, 2011, 01:24:19 PM »

Just beat it... about 55 hours, Level 79

One of the greatest JRPG in the past decade...

Bebpo · « **Reply #288 on:** August 28, 2011, 01:24:49 PM »

Hey that's what I said!

Bebpo · « **Reply #289 on:** August 28, 2011, 10:01:05 PM »

So demi, did you like

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the end area, walking through the planets, getting closer to earth piece by piece? I thought that was really awesome. Knew Takahashi would fit his XG/XB sci-fi in there before all was said and done. Really liked how the game, like Xenogears, tells the story of like billions of years; from the birth of a universe until the end of it's originating god. Feels very complete; don't see any way to do a sequel.

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demi · « **Reply #290 on:** August 28, 2011, 10:25:52 PM »

I liked the little twist

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The entire world is "fake" and Alvis is just a computer AI, and Zanza and Meyneth were just regular people

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Someone better than me could explain it but it was a cool little final swing

It explains the entire final area as well.

demi · « **Reply #291 on:** August 28, 2011, 10:33:29 PM »

What else has Takahashi done? Just:

- XG
- XS
- XB

?

Bebpo · « **Reply #292 on:** August 28, 2011, 10:42:47 PM »

Yeah. He wrote XG with his wife. He wrote XS Ep1 and a general outline of the rest of the XS story with his wife (Ep2 didn't follow his outline at all since Namco did it without him, Ep3 tried to merge the two), and he wrote XB by himself while his wife wrote Soma Bringer by herself.

He also wrote the XS spinoff The Pied Piper for Japanese cellphones only. It was short but kind of cool.

It probably takes him about 3-5 years to come up with a story because he really fleshes his worlds out with tons and tons of details. The worldview books for XG/XSep1/XB are all great.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #293 on:** August 29, 2011, 01:19:08 AM »

Takahashi was one of the lead graphic designers for a bunch of Square SNES games including FF4-6 and Chrono Trigger, he worked on graphics at Falcom before that. Xenogears was his first project as a director and scenario writer.

magus · « **Reply #294 on:** August 29, 2011, 11:36:38 AM »

whelp i mopped up the few remaining quest so i can now finaly progress with the game,one of the quest gave me melia 4th skill tree,i thought it would give me amazing skills but there's really nothing interessing here... probably the most amusing skill is the one that give a 20% increase in all stat if you equip no gems

party is level 52 and i'm heading down sword valley i think? one of the named mob i killed dropped a skill manual,first one to do so

Bebpo · « **Reply #295 on:** August 29, 2011, 12:24:59 PM »

Yeah there are 5 skill trees for each character. The final 2 are hidden in quest rewards along with the a few monado arts and skill books.

Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #296 on:** August 29, 2011, 02:03:39 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on August 26, 2011, 04:56:36 PM

Satorl Marsh is amazing at night, plus the theme is just perfect. Reminds me of that one night-time scene from Avatar.

just got to Makna Forest and I can't help but think that it has more than a bit of the Avatar about it, especially with the giant tree and purple hue of night

magus · « **Reply #297 on:** August 29, 2011, 07:43:14 PM »

uh... this feel pretty miraculous,the enemy in sword valley actualy match my strenght and for the first time in god only know how long for once i'm not extremely over-leveled,i even had a few problematic fight with named mobs,it was fun for once!

is this close to where timed quest get cut off? what happens exactly? do i lose access to city like alcamoth and the like?

demi · « **Reply #298 on:** August 29, 2011, 07:45:43 PM »

Not really close, no. When you get to Agnaratha you are close.

magus · « **Reply #299 on:** August 30, 2011, 07:26:56 PM »

well i reached the mechonis field,the plot of this game is sooooooooo incredibly dull that i don't know what bebpo is thinking,when the hero start spouting stuff like "I'LL PROTECT MY FRIEND" you officialy enter boring clichè territory

party is level 60,haven't done quests for quite a while,it's nice that the mob here bothers to attack me and actualy give some nice reward (i almost learned every skill tree!) but it's just making me waste more time in this incredibly dull dungeon

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Author Topic: Xenoblade Chronicles (Read 40736 times)