When George Lucas dies will we finally get remastered Original Trilogy?

[Himu]

You know you've got a shit argument when you have to rely on VHS tapes to watch fucking STAR WARS.

[ManaByte]

You know you've got a shit argument when you have to rely on VHS tapes to watch fucking STAR WARS.

But you don't. The original cuts were released on DVD in 2006.

[Himu]

Which are now OOP.

[ManaByte]

Which are now OOP.

And the VHS tapes AREN'T?

You can still get the DVDs. They didn't go OOP until this past May. They even released a slim-case boxed set of them last year.

[Himu]

It is now my quest to get them

[Phoenix Dark]

I really don't see the point in not allowing fans the opportunity to buy a high quality original cut of these films. They could be included in this Blu Ray set, given how much shit can be crammed on one.

btw Rumblar, I got that vhs set for like $10 at the Salvation Army lol

[ManaByte]

I really don't see the point in not allowing fans the opportunity to buy a high quality original cut of these films. They could be included in this Blu Ray set, given how much shit can be crammed on one.

btw Rumblar, I got that vhs set for like $10 at the Salvation Army lol

Because there isn't a HQ source to strike a HD master from. When they did the SE's they repaired the original camera negative, but they repaired it by cutting it up and replacing the old scenes with the SE scenes. THAT REALLY HAPPENED. The original scenes exist, and are in storage, but the negative that's used to make all new masters from is the SE. They'd have to do another restoration/repair on the negative to reverse it. It's doable, but Lucas doesn't want to spend the money on it.

http://secrethistoryofstarwars.com/savingstarwars.html

The visual effects shots were faced with the same problems as the conventional opticals: a deteriorated film stock (in CRI instances; in others, milder color fading), and dupe grain and dirt. The shots also contained matte lines, which were beginning to become a thing of the past as films began to utilize digital compositing. Footage from documentaries on the SE reveals that ILM had gone back to the original special effects elements, which had been meticulously saved, and then scanned and digitally recomposited them (in some instances, their placement is slightly different than the original, even though the principle was to match them as closely as possible--for instance, the seeker ball in the scene of Luke's Millennium Falcon training is positioned not quite the same as the original composite, though the difference is basically imperceptible while in motion). In American Cinematographer, it is never stated that this re-compositing process was enacted for every visual effect, but it seems that at the very least most of them were. [31] When these were finished, they were printed back onto film and cut into the O-neg, again replacing the originals. The O-neg was slowly being subsumed by new material.

Had the film remained like this, we would have a restored version of Star Wars, perfectly matching the original release but with pristine quality, even to the point where it was better than what could have been possible back then (as with the higher quality optical transitions). However, this was only part of the process of making what was eventually called "The Special Edition." ILM was working on many dozens of new shots, and an even larger amount of enhanced shots, using digital effects to re-do, expand, re-edit and otherwise alter many scenes in the film. When these were completed, they apparently were printed onto film and re-cut into the negative, replacing the original negs, which were undoubtedly put back into storage. As a result, the negative for Star Wars is filled with CGI-laden modern alterations. When Lucas says that the original version physically does not exist, this is what he really means--the negative is conformed to the Special Edition. Of course, it would be very easy to simply put the original pieces back and conform it to the original version, or use the separation masters and IPs, or simply scan the old pieces for a digital restoration, but I digress.

[Himu]

The dvds aren't that easy to find. Maybe in Saudi Arabia where everything is bootlegged. I'll get them online.

[Himu]

Where? The flea market?

[fistfulofmetal]

Where? The flea market?

http://btjunkie.org/torrent/Star-Wars-Trilogy-The-Original-Unaltered-Trilogy/435895e9b331b591439a9fb0bd266ed4e88cd8748703

took 10 seconds to find this.

[fistfulofmetal]

Where? The flea market?

http://www.amazon.com/Trilogy-Exclusive-original-theatrical-releases/dp/B000IKHNT8/ref=sr_1_6?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1315008130&sr=1-6

took 15 seconds

[Himu]

7 new from $119.99 1 used from $104.95

[fistfulofmetal]

guess you don't love star wars enough.

[Himu]

you must be fucking joking

[Great Rumbler]

btw Rumblar, I got that vhs set for like $10 at the Salvation Army lol

I got all three for about $2.50.

[Himu]

Ebay, keep in mind this is just for A New Hope:

Star Wars (DVD, 2006, 2-Disc Limited Edition; Widescreen​)

Buy New: $61.04

[Himu]

Yeah, at this point, fuck it.

Getting blu ray collection for my bday.

[fistfulofmetal]

you must be fucking joking

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spent about 5 minutes looking for one and couldn't so i made my own shitty one.

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[EmCeeGrammar]

Maybe these small changes all just contribute to the reality of how corny this franchise has been all along.

Search yourself, you know it to be true.

[Great Rumbler]

Maybe these small changes all just contribute to the reality of how corny this franchise has been all along.

Search yourself, you know it to be true.

What? It's been corny all along, everybody knows that. The difference is that is used to not be COMPLETELY AWFUL.

[EmCeeGrammar]

I dunno, its a grabbag of literature archtypes running around with muppets arguing about whose magic is better but ,like, in a totaly not subtle way.  I can never go through them in one sitting.  Maybe the fans (and of course the prequels) make it hard for me to see the redeeming qualities.

edit:  And I'm pretty sure it typecasted several talented actors into oblivion or mere voicework. Poor Hamill.  Which had nothing to do with my point come to think of it.

[Himu]

I dunno, its a grabbag of literature archtypes running around with muppets arguing about whose magic is better but ,like, in a totaly not subtle way.  I can never go through them in one sitting.  Maybe the fans (and of course the prequels) make it hard for me to see the redeeming qualities.

edit:  And I'm pretty sure it typecasted several talented actors into oblivion or mere voicework. Poor Hamill.  Which had nothing to do with my point come to think of it.

They're just entertaining and well-made films. Agreed on Hamill though.

[EmCeeGrammar]

Are you posting this while playing Wii Music?

I don't even have Wii music anymore, mang.  Although my harddrive died and I'm back to using the wii again.

Porn isn't the same

[Great Rumbler]

I'm fine with Mark Hamill being a voice-actor, since he's far better at it than live-action acting.

[EmCeeGrammar]

Anyone else look at the credits of animated shows to spot the well known voice actors.  Phil Lamarr is in EVERYTHING I swear (black kid headshotted in pulp fiction).

[Himu]

He was on Mad TV.

[EmCeeGrammar]

He was on Mad TV.

I know.

I know way too much about Phil Lamarr.

[Great Rumbler]

Mark Hamill
Maurice LaMarche
Phil LaMarr
Billy West
John DiMaggio
Tress MacNeille

Those guys are in EVERYTHING.

[EmCeeGrammar]

Mark Hamill
Maurice LaMarche
Phil LaMarr
Billy West
John DiMaggio
Tress MacNeille

Those guys are in EVERYTHING.

And TWO of them have played the joker!

[Himu]

I do like Mark Hamill a lot more as a voice actor than a regular live actor but I don't think it's fair because of his car accident. I heard he had to have his face redone surgically and this caused him have weaker muscle reaction in his face, which, for an actor, is a curse. I think considering what he had, a face that couldn't really express emotion too well, and a cheesy script in the Star Wars trilogy, he did a pretty good job. Of course, I've not seen too many Hamill films post-Star Wars, though there have been a few where he showed up.

For the record, I think Hamill is great in A New Hope. He makes you care for Luke the second you meet him because he portrays him as humanly as possible.

I seem to be a minority in that I prefer Luke to Han, at least in A New Hope.

But man are his VO's classic.

[Great Rumbler]

Best thing Mark Hamill's done post-Star Wars [that isn't animated or a game]:

[youtube=560,345]an8QCQsPC3M[/youtube]

[EmCeeGrammar]

I find it weird they chose Hale to merely grunt in the Metroid Prime games.  Although the game over scream is noi-ce.

[Raban]

When I first played ME1 I grew really attached to my female Shep, then I started hearing her voice in everything

[pilonv1]

Mark Hamill
Maurice LaMarche
Phil LaMarr
Billy West
John DiMaggio
Tress MacNeille

Those guys are in EVERYTHING.

FUTURAMA

[Great Rumbler]

Like, if you've got a black guy in your show/game, Phil LaMarr is going to voice him.  But if you have *two* black guys, Kevin Michael Richardson will voice the other.

Keith David's in a few things as well, although he should be in more.

[chronovore]

Where? The flea market?

http://btjunkie.org/torrent/Star-Wars-Trilogy-The-Original-Unaltered-Trilogy/435895e9b331b591439a9fb0bd266ed4e88cd8748703

took 10 seconds to find this.

Thank you.

[Himu]

yeah i dled it last night thanks

[chronovore]

[Joe Molotov]

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[Cheebo]

When Lucas dies his daughter Katie Lucas takes over. And she fights with so called "Lucas haters" on twitter constantly and compared those against the stupid Noooo to child molesters. Yeah we aren't getting the originals anytime. 

[Himu]

CHEEBS

[magus]

classic penny arcade is always so appropriate no matter the year

[Cheebo]

Yet somehow the Clone Wars animated series that is on right now is probably the best thing related to Star Wars since the OT. Probably since as far as I know Lucas has never written or directed an episode of it.

How they made prequel era Star Wars this watchable is crazy.
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[Himu]

i'd like to watch it

[Phoenix Dark]

i'd like to watch it

http://www.icefilms.info/

[Joe Molotov]

Genndy Tartakovsky's Clone War mini-series was pretty awesome too. I remember watching that and thinking General Grevious was going to be really badass in Episode 3, and instead he was a little bitch.

[Dickie Dee]

Yeah, I was pretty amazed at how good the Clone Wars show was (especially seasons 2 and 3)

[Cheebo]

Yeah, I was pretty amazed at how good the Clone Wars show was (especially seasons 2 and 3)

Season 1 was pretty average, but since then it has gotten really good. Like some of the best sci-fi on tv good. Which is something I would never expect. It's nice to see stuff put out there with the Star Wars name that is good. Kids today watching this are far luckier than the kids who grew up with the prequels. The genndy shorts were really good too.

[Oblivion]

As for the common voice actors, I'd also add Cam Clarke, Jennifer Hale, and Kevin Michael Richardson.  Like, if you've got a black guy in your show/game, Phil LaMarr is going to voice him.  But if you have *two* black guys, Kevin Michael Richardson will voice the other. 

And if you need a black female however, there's a good chance Cree Summers will be at the studio later that day.

Jim Cummings and Frank Welker used to be among those guys, but I have no idea if either of them are still alive or not. :/

And Jennifer Hale is without question the most prolific female voice actor working today.

I think Kath Soucie has her beat (maybe tied?).

Cam Clarke is just fucking everywhere in spite of having the range of a shotput thrown by Willco.

Yep. I like Cam well enough, but his range is about as far as David Lucas'/Steve Blum's (who incidentally, when it comes to dubbing, is probably the most prolific male actor).

[Cheebo]

Jim Cummings and Frank Welker used to be among those guys, but I have no idea if either of them are still alive or not. :/

Clone Wars is the only current animated show I keep up with and Jim Cummings plays a Bounty Hunter that is a recurring character on it so he is still around.

[ManaByte]

Yet somehow the Clone Wars animated series that is on right now is probably the best thing related to Star Wars since the OT. Probably since as far as I know Lucas has never written or directed an episode of it.

No, but his daughter has.

Season 1 is blah, but 2 and 3 are really good. They even got Liam Neeson back in Season 3.

[drew]

http://www.icefilms.info/

nice name...either a thinly veiled sting operation or a an ironic nod to the folks who brought down ninjavideo

[Cheebo]

Manabyte admit it, The Clone Wars animated series is better than the prequels. Even you have to admit it!

[benjipwns]

[Great Rumbler]

 

[chronovore]

Excellent.

[Mr. Gundam]

I ended up managing to get the 9-disc set for free. My buddy shipped my copy out today.

[Robo]

Speaking of...

While George Lucas is visited in the night by the specter of Young George Lucas—rattling chains laden with puppet souls and softly moaning, “NOOOOOOOO!”—his self-described “best friend” Steven Spielberg has already seen the error of his ways, telling an audience at a 30th anniversary screening of Raiders Of The Lost Ark that he now repents for all of his own “special edition” sins. “I tried this once and I lived to regret it,” Spielberg said of that time he digitally inserted walkie-talkies into E.T., thereby reducing gun violence by approximately 25 percent. Yet even though our streets are safer, Spielberg says he feels bad about it “not because of fan outrage, but simply because I was disappointed in myself. I was overly sensitive to some of the criticism E.T. got from parent groups when it was first released in '82 having to do with Eliot saying ‘penis breath’ or the guns... And then there were certain brilliant, but rough-around-the-edges close-ups of E.T. that I always felt, if technology ever evolves to the point where I can do some facial enhancement for E.T., I'd like to.”

But after his those “enhancements,” Spielberg had an all-too-rare moment of clarity: “I realized that what I had done was I had robbed the people who loved E.T. of their memories of E.T. And I regretted that.” By way of penance—and reinforced by informal audience poll—Spielberg promised that the upcoming Blu-ray release of E.T. would have only the original, untouched, guns-and-penises version. Meanwhile, George Lucas began brainstorming all the ways he could incorporate those abandoned CGI walkie-talkies, if Spielberg wasn’t going to use them.

Score for NERDS. 

[Great Rumbler]

Good on him.

[Phoenix Dark]

Why does Spielberg still hang around with Lucuas, dude's a loser