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« Reply #120 on: September 13, 2011, 01:25:31 AM »
Yeah, business-wise, for Japan, that conference was *exactly* what it needed to be.  MH4 is an obvious money hat, but honestly, Nintendo needs to start throwing money hats around and for a Japanese handheld, that was probably the best thing they could've bought for themselves.

I'm not a big MH guy, but I do give them a try as they come out, hoping one of these days it'll catch.  Still, I saw a few things at that conference that looked interesting (little of it new though).  As a 3DS owner, the conference was good because it shows that Nintendo aren't just giving up on the damned thing.

Of course, it's not hard to see what Capcom is up to.  MH4 will be 3DS exclusive (and that's absolutely great news for Nintendo), but MHP4th?  Well, that's a whole different game, y'see.  Wonder if they can convince Sony to moneyhat them for that?

Do you see them going for that route instead of a multiplatform releases of MH on portables? I'm still trying to figure out whether MH4 is exclusive or not, but knowing Nintendo, and how they handled Tri, it probably is. This scenario would seriously hurt Vita in Japan right out of the gate, that even a late MH4 port or 4th announcement won't allow it to bounce back as fast as it should.

1500 yen, works with RE:Rev, KH, Ace Combat, MGS3, Monster Hunter, Sangoku Musou VS, and no Nintendo titles which is kinda odd.

and it requires an AAA battery.  haha.

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« Reply #121 on: September 13, 2011, 01:29:17 AM »
Wow, that was fucking terrible.  The only thing that got me pleasantly curious is what the firmware update will entail.

I mean, good jon on Monster Hunter 4 (not that I give a shit), but I'm starting to worry Nintendo is killing off their mid tier franchises like Warioware and Advance Wars.  It made sense for marketplace failures like Fzero, but now its like all of their games in production are Mii/Mario/Pokemon stuff.  I didn't even feel this was the case with the Wii, as I got stuff like the excite games, punchout, endless ocean etc.

Animal Crossing will be mine though, and I'm warming up to kid icarus.

yeah and those games sold like ass. Makes sense from Nintendo's perspective to give them the heave ho
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« Reply #122 on: September 13, 2011, 01:29:24 AM »
Thanks to MH4 announcement dizzying Kagari, she's getting all leaky and saying that a FF RPG is being developed for Vita, but she's not sure if it'll be announced tomorrow or not.

I think if Capcom can run two separate MH series, each one selling millions of units with each installment, AND collect exclusivity moneyhats, they absolutely will do that.

Sounds like Capcom. The only victim is going to be Sony if their moneyhats are big enough to control release schedules.
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« Reply #123 on: September 13, 2011, 01:31:23 AM »
the free four swords is the best thing shown

single player, FREE, DSi or 3DS, FREE, retro stages:



video here: http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/dsiware/kq9j/index.html

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« Reply #124 on: September 13, 2011, 01:41:21 AM »
nah, shes just a straight up Sony spinning bullshitter. A real witch
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« Reply #125 on: September 13, 2011, 01:41:55 AM »
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Is Kagari actually connected? Everything seems to be ultra vague and then "oh no , i've said too much!"

As of late? I'd wager so. At least for all things SE/FF. Still, the old Kagari didn't know shit, so maybe she's channeling her older self under the pressure.
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« Reply #126 on: September 13, 2011, 02:20:57 AM »
She probably started connecting with her sources.
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« Reply #127 on: September 13, 2011, 02:24:32 AM »
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« Reply #128 on: September 13, 2011, 02:43:54 AM »
hey nerds i'm going to an industry party tonight and need to talk about this shit for a few hours like i give a crap

what do i need to know other than Bravely Default (which should be good for at least an hour)
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« Reply #129 on: September 13, 2011, 03:11:19 AM »
Kohler still hasn't blogged about the event. I bet he needed a really long shower after that conference.
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« Reply #130 on: September 13, 2011, 03:42:17 AM »
FFVII:R for Vita would make me weep

Keep the dream alive, I guess
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« Reply #131 on: September 13, 2011, 03:55:17 AM »
Real talk: Not a single FF-related Vita announcement would get me excited. Maybe the small sales-whore inside of me will, but nothing more. Same goes for the MGS and RE series. I just stopped giving a fuck mostly. On the other hand, MH is a new found interest, and in my book no Sony announcement will top it.

Maybe a Tactics Ogre 2 will mend my broken heart, maybe.
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« Reply #132 on: September 13, 2011, 04:02:43 AM »
Kohler might be pretty pissed off, I heard they weren't letting any foreign press into that press conference (and ALL of them were in town for TGS).

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« Reply #133 on: September 13, 2011, 04:07:25 AM »
i am actually meeting Kohler tonight , i'm sure he'll be excited. Seemed to be lots to be excited for if you are a nintendo fan really. They did a good job on that front.


Eh, I like mario platformers, but seeing kart/olympics/papermario/tennis/luigismansion all lined up one after the other is very depressing.  Tomadokakukepadoshi Connection and Style Savvy aint my demographic, but I can respect them. 
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« Reply #134 on: September 13, 2011, 04:10:25 AM »
Real talk: Not a single FF-related Vita announcement would get me excited.

I'd say a new tactics game would be awesome, but then again I wouldn't know how ya felt about ffta2.  Anything otherwise... snore .
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« Reply #135 on: September 13, 2011, 04:13:21 AM »
just talk about comics, you'll be fine

This is actually what I did last TGS, had a great time!
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« Reply #136 on: September 13, 2011, 04:13:55 AM »
Kohler might be pretty pissed off, I heard they weren't letting any foreign press into that press conference (and ALL of them were in town for TGS).

Kohler liveblogged it from his hotel room :lol

He's like the abused wife that can't stay away
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« Reply #137 on: September 13, 2011, 04:16:21 AM »
so i watched this Monster Hunter teaser

3 mins of scripted nonsense featuring some knight-looking dude running away from a dragon in low-poly environments, ho hum. Not seeing the big deal. I thought co-op play was the hook?
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« Reply #138 on: September 13, 2011, 04:27:47 AM »
Yeah, it doesn't look good from a technical standpoint, but a lot of the ideas they showcased (platforming, fighting while climbing, mounting enemies, etc) is fairly new to a franchise that was in desperate need of some new, action-oriented mechanics. So it finally feels like they're releasing a real sequel.
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« Reply #139 on: September 13, 2011, 04:29:04 AM »
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3 mins of scripted nonsense featuring some knight-looking dude running away from a dragon in low-poly environments, ho hum. Not seeing the big deal. I thought co-op play was the hook?


the announcement itself is key, yes.

But yeah, it was interesting to see sporks, Johntv etc all lose their shit when it was so clearly a single player scripted action sequence which is about as far removed from the organic gameplay experience of Monster Hunter as it could possibly be.

And err, clearly a '4' was inevitable at some point. Having it be announced for the shittiest platform imaginable (bar perhaps the Wii) is a win in what way?
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« Reply #140 on: September 13, 2011, 04:31:03 AM »
I'm fairly certain it was in engine assets stuff spliced with cg snippets intended to imply some new mechanics.  I doubt its indicative of more than environmental destruction and a new climbing mechanic.  I remember Tri had similar marketing/media regarding its ecosystem features.
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« Reply #141 on: September 13, 2011, 04:31:44 AM »
"yo- yo- you guys just don't get it!"
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« Reply #142 on: September 13, 2011, 04:33:34 AM »
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3 mins of scripted nonsense featuring some knight-looking dude running away from a dragon in low-poly environments, ho hum. Not seeing the big deal. I thought co-op play was the hook?


the announcement itself is key, yes.

But yeah, it was interesting to see sporks, Johntv etc all lose their shit when it was so clearly a single player scripted action sequence which is about as far removed from the organic gameplay experience of Monster Hunter as it could possibly be.

And err, clearly a '4' was inevitable at some point. Having it be announced for the shittiest platform imaginable (bar perhaps the Wii) is a win in what way?

It didnt get announced for the psp, so I don't know what you're talking about sir.
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« Reply #143 on: September 13, 2011, 04:45:22 AM »
"yo- yo- you guys just don't get it!"

well, SORREE for not being a Japanese grade schooler with 12 hours of school to erase every day
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« Reply #144 on: September 13, 2011, 04:47:01 AM »
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And err, clearly a '4' was inevitable at some point. Having it be announced for the shittiest platform imaginable (bar perhaps the Wii) is a win in what way?


surely i don't have to paint the full picture as to why this is a win for certain people?

i'll play it regardless if it ends up on 3DS only and not bleat like a baby but yeah - i don't get the flag waving at this point given the PSV seems to be infinitely more suited to a MH game. That said - i will be extremely surprised if we do not see MH support in at least two forms for Sony.


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« Reply #145 on: September 13, 2011, 05:05:20 AM »
I'm not 100% sure, but I think shots have been fired.
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« Reply #146 on: September 13, 2011, 05:06:29 AM »
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« Reply #147 on: September 13, 2011, 05:49:43 AM »
i would be uber excited for bravely default if it wasn't for the incredibly stupid title and the fact that 4 warriors of light sucked... hard! :fbm

and blargh fire emblem,worst srpg ever! >:( they even changed the artist which was like the only thing i liked about it

monster hunter 4,i like,i seriously couldn't care less that it looks like a n64 game or whatever but....

1) i can see a pretty big chance of them fucking online,i mean where the heck i'm supposed to attach my usb keyboard on that thing?

2) it's capcom,there are going to be at least 3 different other upgraded port on sony console's,none of them is going to leave japan so might as well bite on this one :smug

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« Reply #148 on: September 13, 2011, 06:00:50 AM »
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One of the biggest surprises out of Nintendo's media event in Japan was the announcement that Monster Hunter 4 would be released on the 3DS. Understand that, for Japan, this is somewhere near the magnitude of when Final Fantasy XIII was announced for the Xbox 360 -- a major coup. But why would Capcom shift a PlayStation Portable-exclusive series to the 3DS, especially with a game that sold millions on Sony portables? Money.

Katsuhiko Ichii, Capcom's managing corporate officer, explained the decision to Thompson Financial News (via Gamasutra). "Due to high development cost of titles for Vita, we have decided to switch the platform to which we release our Monster Hunter 4 title," Ichii said. While it remains unclear whether Monster Hunter 4 is now a 3DS exclusive, or simply being released on both 3DS and Vita, this quote seems to suggest the former. Either way, the fact remains: the most popular new portable in Japan just got that much more powerful.

http://www.1up.com/news/vita-dev-costs-caused-monster-hunter-3ds-move

Dun dun dunnnn.
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« Reply #149 on: September 13, 2011, 06:15:46 AM »
Yeah, I was even the one who exposed him. But you fell for it. Admit it, you're not as smart as you thought!

Still funny though.
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« Reply #150 on: September 13, 2011, 06:26:29 AM »
Wasn't AAI2 released around the time Capcom stopped giving a crap about the DS, though? By that time, they shifted most of their focus to the rampage of console releases, and dilution of their IPs.
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« Reply #151 on: September 13, 2011, 09:03:17 AM »
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In a subdued Tokyo conference hall on Tuesday, an appearance by the company's star game designer, Shigeru Miyamoto, wielding a toy sword and shield raised a laugh, but a series of 3DS game images depicting Miyamoto and Iwata as a pair of young lovers was met with silence.


That's what those images were? :rofl
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« Reply #153 on: September 13, 2011, 09:31:14 AM »
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In a subdued Tokyo conference hall on Tuesday, an appearance by the company's star game designer, Shigeru Miyamoto, wielding a toy sword and shield raised a laugh, but a series of 3DS game images depicting Miyamoto and Iwata as a pair of young lovers was met with silence.


That's what those images were? :rofl

Holy shit hahahahahha
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« Reply #154 on: September 13, 2011, 09:39:06 AM »
any pics of that?
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« Reply #155 on: September 13, 2011, 09:59:29 AM »
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In a subdued Tokyo conference hall on Tuesday, an appearance by the company's star game designer, Shigeru Miyamoto, wielding a toy sword and shield raised a laugh, but a series of 3DS game images depicting Miyamoto and Iwata as a pair of young lovers was met with silence.


That's what those images were? :rofl

Holy shit. The tomodachi avatars were supposed to be Iwata and Miyamoto? I had no idea, but I gotta give it to them, tough crowd. Not a single chuckle was uttered.
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« Reply #156 on: September 13, 2011, 10:01:37 AM »
Maybe Miyamoto segued into the bit verbally but holy fuck that was awkward as fuck

Maybe that's why their stock dropped 5%. 'Dat forbidden homosexual relationship.

Edit: I mean Iwata. These fucking names.
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« Reply #157 on: September 13, 2011, 10:21:57 AM »
Hmm, nothing too interesting it sounds like... I'm not that big on MonHan, but Bravery Default sounds kinda interesting I guess. Still nothing making me want to run out and buy a 3DS.
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« Reply #158 on: September 13, 2011, 10:26:26 AM »
Was 4WoL worth picking up? I never bothered with it, but people elsewhere were jizzing over the rumor, before it was formally announced.
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« Reply #159 on: September 13, 2011, 10:30:31 AM »
Was 4WoL worth picking up? I never bothered with it, but people elsewhere were jizzing over the rumor, before it was formally announced.

Great visuals, Canadian-developed battle system. Like, wtf were they thinking. Shame cause I really do want to give it a serious try, but the system is just so WTF
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« Reply #161 on: September 13, 2011, 11:16:27 AM »
Was 4WoL worth picking up? I never bothered with it, but people elsewhere were jizzing over the rumor, before it was formally announced.

it tries really hard to play like classic final fantasy,the music is all retro,there is a job system a-la FF3,the plot includes highlight like "rescue the princess from the evil dragon" and also it looks really pretty

most people seems annoyed by the fact that each character can only carry 15 items (this include equipment and also spells as you need a book to cast the relative spell) and also by the fact that for the first bit of the game character leaves and enter your party quite often (which make the 15 items only even more annoying) but personaly the real problem i have with the game is that it just doesn't do a good job at being classics

i put the blame on the combat system,you see there are no MP and instead each character gets 2 action point each turn and each action they do consume a certain number of AP,this ultimately translate into spamming all the special skills you want and in fact after getting a certain job,you barely have no reason to not just murder everything in your path

the way you develop the jobs is also very annoying,each job needs a certain number of gems but there are quite a lot of different kind of gems and it's not uncommon to end having something like... 20 rubies and not a single emerald or shit like that

the boss are totaly unbalanced,there are a lot of gear to protect you from elemental attack but the way it's done,it's ridiculous,a character with the right equipment will receive a great total of 1 damage from every boss attack while the remaining party member will die as soon as the boss fart,it's really really really stupid and this might be the first game where sometimes going solo is EASIER than using your full team

i guess if you really really really like classic final fantasy you might want to bite,it's bound to be better than that stupid FF4 half-assed sequel at least

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« Reply #162 on: September 13, 2011, 12:08:53 PM »
After Years is awesome. Play it on PSP, Shah.
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« Reply #163 on: September 13, 2011, 12:42:32 PM »
Oh shit, I had no idea After Years was included in the Complete Collection. I'll definitely buy it and even go through FFIV again. The DS remake was a mixed bag for me.
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« Reply #164 on: September 13, 2011, 12:48:29 PM »
I still need to pick up the FFIV PSP Collection. FFIV is my favorite game of all time.
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« Reply #165 on: September 14, 2011, 12:23:43 AM »
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In a subdued Tokyo conference hall on Tuesday, an appearance by the company's star game designer, Shigeru Miyamoto, wielding a toy sword and shield raised a laugh, but a series of 3DS game images depicting Miyamoto and Iwata as a pair of young lovers was met with silence.


That's what those images were? :rofl

Holy shit. The tomodachi avatars were supposed to be Iwata and Miyamoto? I had no idea, but I gotta give it to them, tough crowd. Not a single chuckle was uttered.

Wait, what?  People think those two avatars from Tomodachi collection are Iwata and Miyamoto?  They're Miis of famous Japanese comedians that help promote the 3DS, idiot journalists.

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« Reply #166 on: September 14, 2011, 10:12:35 AM »
[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

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« Reply #167 on: September 14, 2011, 11:01:53 AM »
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« Reply #168 on: September 14, 2011, 11:24:30 AM »
I don't think I've ever gone from "ZOMG!! This looks amazing! Insta-buy!!!" to "lol Japan. Pass." so fast before.
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« Reply #169 on: September 14, 2011, 11:33:34 AM »
I don't think I've ever gone from "ZOMG!! This looks amazing! Insta-buy!!!" to "lol Japan. Pass." so fast before.

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« Reply #170 on: September 14, 2011, 11:35:38 AM »
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« Reply #171 on: September 14, 2011, 01:01:19 PM »
jesus christ fuck bravely default too
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« Reply #172 on: September 14, 2011, 01:02:38 PM »
I would never buy anything with such fucking ridiculous name, real talk.
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« Reply #173 on: September 14, 2011, 02:16:12 PM »
lol japan
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« Reply #174 on: September 14, 2011, 07:10:50 PM »
like you could afford to buy it under *any* name, you filthy mexican

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« Reply #175 on: September 14, 2011, 10:07:35 PM »
I bought another 3ds instead of the psv.  :/  Damn region locking.

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« Reply #176 on: September 15, 2011, 12:01:10 AM »
http://ds.ign.com/articles/119/1194190p1.html

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Nintendo President Satoru Iwata is usually the one conducting interviews for Nintendo, and has become well known for his positive perspective and easy-going personality as the host of Nintendo.com's on-going Iwata Asks column.

Whenever the tables are turned on him, though, it seems his anger can ignite in a flash.

"Absolutely not" was the President's response when Japanese newspaper Nikkei asked him the question that investors have been hammering on for months now – will Nintendo shift development resources to mobile gaming and start developing for smartphones?

"This is absolutely not under consideration," replied Iwata. "If we did this, Nintendo would cease to be Nintendo. Having a hardware development team in-house is a major strength. It's the duty of management to make use of those strengths. It's probably the correct decision in the sense that the moment we started to release games on smartphones we'd make profits. However, I believe my responsibility is not to short term profits, but to Nintendo's mid and long term competitive strength."

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« Reply #177 on: September 15, 2011, 12:25:55 AM »
i don't think it would hurt them to release a few of the nes games that everyone's already bought 5 times over
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« Reply #178 on: September 15, 2011, 12:29:22 AM »
he's not wrong.

they're not having their best times of late but generally speaking Nintendo make more money than any other video game company, and they've been doing that for 25 years now, and a big part of that is their hardware business.

see, when you sell hardware at a profit rather than a loss, you *make* money from it instead of praying you recoup your losses from software license fees.  it's in nintendo's long-term interest to maintain a hardware division, and it's in the long-term interest of their hardware that they keep their games fully exclusive to their hardware.

the big mistake being made there right now is not partnering with a phone manufacturer to make a nintendo-brand smart phone, with its own OS and whatnot.

The last point you make is why I see that as a wtf. Keeping their head in the sand and ignoring the new market out there because "this is what we do, and if we didn't do it we wouldn't be Nintendo" isn't in the best long term interest of the company because their section of the market is shrinking and facing tougher competition.
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« Reply #179 on: September 15, 2011, 01:34:43 AM »
the big mistake being made there right now is not partnering with a phone manufacturer to make a nintendo-brand smart phone, with its own OS and whatnot.

You really think that's a good idea?