Author Topic: WTF, Mexico? (Read 3305 times)

Great Rumbler · « **on:** September 22, 2011, 03:40:32 PM »

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Masked gunmen blocked traffic on a busy avenue in a Gulf of Mexico coastal city Tuesday and dumped the bodies of 35 slaying victims as horrified motorists watched, authorities said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44603823/ns/world_news-americas/

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Joe Molotov · « **Reply #1 on:** September 22, 2011, 03:44:01 PM »

If Mexico was in the middle east, we would have already invaded the crap out of it.

Bebpo · « **Reply #2 on:** September 22, 2011, 03:51:10 PM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov® EDGE™ on September 22, 2011, 03:44:01 PM

If Mexico was in the middle east, we would have already invaded the crap out of it.

I know everyone's joking when they say this but the reason the US can't invade is the badguys aren't part of a visible government or shielded/helped by the visible government. The mexican government is vocally against the cartels, so what can the US do besides driving around shooting up mexicans and saying they were all drug dealers? That would be pretty iffy.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #3 on:** September 22, 2011, 03:52:19 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on September 22, 2011, 03:51:10 PM

Quote from: Joe Molotov® EDGE™ on September 22, 2011, 03:44:01 PM
If Mexico was in the middle east, we would have already invaded the crap out of it.

I know everyone's joking when they say this but the reason the US can't invade is the badguys aren't part of a visible government or shielded/helped by the visible government. The mexican government is vocally against the cartels, so what can the US do besides driving around shooting up mexicans and saying they were all drug dealers? That would be pretty iffy.

Umm, drone strikes on Mexican villages?!??

Mupepe · « **Reply #4 on:** September 22, 2011, 04:16:29 PM »

shoot some fucking tomahawks at some of these cartel locations and call it a day. it should be done surprisingly in conjunction with the mexican government. Just put a huge dent in the organizations.

Diunx · « **Reply #5 on:** September 22, 2011, 04:21:32 PM »

This shit wouldn't happen if you all stop getting high and get a job.

Mupepe · « **Reply #6 on:** September 22, 2011, 04:22:58 PM »

I supported your economy today, senor. Bought a few cigars imported from your country.

Diunx · « **Reply #7 on:** September 22, 2011, 04:24:16 PM »

are they any good?

Mupepe · « **Reply #8 on:** September 22, 2011, 04:25:57 PM »

Haven't had a chance to try them yet. heard they were pretty decent for a light cigar.

Himu · « **Reply #9 on:** September 22, 2011, 04:45:50 PM »

Quote from: Diunx on September 22, 2011, 04:21:32 PM

This shit wouldn't happen if you all stop getting high and get a job.

most of the weed people in the USA smoke is locally grown.

Himu · « **Reply #10 on:** September 22, 2011, 04:50:28 PM »

[youtube=560,345]BA5za4VsskM[/youtube]

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #11 on:** September 22, 2011, 04:53:22 PM »

Quote from: Spencer on September 22, 2011, 04:48:01 PM

I've never support a cartel with my drug use.

Wait, to be fair I did buy a gram of coke once.

I bought some mexican coke today- it has real sugar in it!

Boogie · « **Reply #12 on:** September 22, 2011, 04:55:19 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on September 22, 2011, 04:45:50 PM

Quote from: Diunx on September 22, 2011, 04:21:32 PM
This shit wouldn't happen if you all stop getting high and get a job.

most of the weed people in the USA smoke is locally grown.

yes, but the vast majority of drugs grown in, or transiting through, Mexico are destined for the United States.

Himu · « **Reply #13 on:** September 22, 2011, 04:55:46 PM »

Mexican coke - now without high fructose corn syrup! Made with real authentic sugar!

Bebpo · « **Reply #14 on:** September 22, 2011, 04:57:31 PM »

Quote from: Boogie on September 22, 2011, 04:55:19 PM

Quote from: Stringer Bell on September 22, 2011, 04:45:50 PM
Quote from: Diunx on September 22, 2011, 04:21:32 PM
This shit wouldn't happen if you all stop getting high and get a job.

most of the weed people in the USA smoke is locally grown.

yes, but the vast majority of drugs grown in, or transiting through, Mexico are destined for the United States.

I'm just making this up not based on facts but most of the drugs coming from Mexico are hard drugs worth real money.

Himu · « **Reply #15 on:** September 22, 2011, 04:58:17 PM »

Quote from: Boogie on September 22, 2011, 04:55:19 PM

Quote from: Stringer Bell on September 22, 2011, 04:45:50 PM
Quote from: Diunx on September 22, 2011, 04:21:32 PM
This shit wouldn't happen if you all stop getting high and get a job.

most of the weed people in the USA smoke is locally grown.

yes, but the vast majority of drugs grown in, or transiting through, Mexico are destined for the United States.

True enough. Buying drugs will definitely be adding to this problem but it's not like people are just going to stop buying drugs.

Which ain't likely. Because those are hard drugs people who want them CRAVE.

The real kicker is the war on drugs. It has failed and caused far too much pain. Get rid of it.

Boogie · « **Reply #16 on:** September 22, 2011, 05:02:33 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on September 22, 2011, 04:57:31 PM

I'm just making this up not based on facts but most of the drugs coming from Mexico are hard drugs worth real money.

I have heard that marijuana makes up a majority of the profits for the cartels, in addition to coke.

Quote from: Spencer on September 22, 2011, 04:55:41 PM

you're absolutely right Boogie, but would they still be if crossing the magical border didn't increase their value by 1000%?

A fair question.

Actually, I'm not even sure I buy Himu's statement as is. Are there any actual studies estimating the amount grown domestically vs. imported? Or is himu just using the scientific "the weed me and my friends get is grown by my buddy, so I assume that's the same for most people"?

Boogie · « **Reply #17 on:** September 22, 2011, 05:17:37 PM »

Well, there are of course different camps even within the "Pro-legalization" stance.

Pro-legalization of marijuana, but continued prohibition of hard drugs? Usually based on argument that marijuana use is no more harmful than cigarettes or alcohol.
Libertarian position of pro-legalization of all drugs? Based on idea of "liberty" to choose to put anything in one's body, regardless of harm.
What I call "balance of harm" Legalization of all drugs? Based on theory that, in spite of harm of hard drugs, all drugs should be legalized because it is prohibition itself that allows for the violence and leads to greater costs for society than the alternative of legalization.

So legalization means different things to different people, and results in different arguments presented.

T234 · « **Reply #18 on:** September 22, 2011, 05:26:47 PM »

Depends entirely upon what part of the country you're from.

There are more cannabis plants per capita here than anywhere else in the country not named Hawaii. And even then it's close. That being said, Kentucky still sees a LOT of brick weed. Not this time of year though, it's outdoor indica season.

Non-Psychedelic Hard drugs (Coke, Heroin, Speed) are worth a hell of alot (100s of times more) more money, though. Heroin is beginning to get to be a big deal around here, which is unfortunate. They just popped a guy I went to school with with 80 kilos of uncut heroin, worth $130,000+ apiece. That motherfucker still owes me money from the old school days.

Himu · « **Reply #19 on:** September 22, 2011, 05:30:13 PM »

Heroin is awful. I had a friend die from an overdose of it and another that's in rehab right now because of it.

T234 · « **Reply #20 on:** September 22, 2011, 05:36:58 PM »

I dunno, but I'm seriously thinking about robbing the shit out of some of these dealers around here. I had somebody tell me "Half a million dollars in cash a month, you ain't ever gonna get that much money, ya taco!" And I also know that he lives alone, hmm.

Boogie · « **Reply #21 on:** September 22, 2011, 05:37:37 PM »

Quote from: Spencer on September 22, 2011, 05:25:13 PM

See, Boogie, you're what we call "one of the real good guys" I agree with you on that.

Ah, now I didn't say I endorse any of those positions, just that I understand them.

Quote from: T234 on September 22, 2011, 05:26:47 PM

They just popped a guy I went to school with with 80 kilos of uncut heroin, worth $130,000+ apiece. That motherfucker still owes me money from the old school days.

80 keys? That's huge for a single seizure of heroin.

Boogie · « **Reply #22 on:** September 22, 2011, 05:38:50 PM »

Quote from: T234 on September 22, 2011, 05:36:58 PM

I dunno, but I'm seriously thinking about robbing the shit out of some of these dealers around here. I had somebody tell me "Half a million dollars in cash a month, you ain't ever gonna get that much money, ya taco!" And I also know that he lives alone, hmm.

OMAR COMIN!

drew · « **Reply #23 on:** September 22, 2011, 05:41:51 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on September 22, 2011, 03:51:10 PM

I know everyone's joking when they say this but the reason the US can't invade is the badguys aren't part of a visible government or shielded/helped by the visible government. The mexican government is vocally against the cartels, so what can the US do besides driving around shooting up mexicans and saying they were all drug dealers? That would be pretty iffy.

the federal government gave cartels over 30,000 rifles

T234 · « **Reply #24 on:** September 22, 2011, 05:42:10 PM »

Maybe huge for Canada. Here it was just Wednesday.

drew · « **Reply #25 on:** September 22, 2011, 05:45:37 PM »

Quote from: T234 on September 22, 2011, 05:36:58 PM

I dunno, but I'm seriously thinking about robbing the shit out of some of these dealers around here. I had somebody tell me "Half a million dollars in cash a month, you ain't ever gonna get that much money, ya taco!" And I also know that he lives alone, hmm.

bubububububu i thought you could afford it! you big boy baller you.

T234 · « **Reply #26 on:** September 22, 2011, 05:49:42 PM »

Quote from: drew on September 22, 2011, 05:45:37 PM

Quote from: T234 on September 22, 2011, 05:36:58 PM
I dunno, but I'm seriously thinking about robbing the shit out of some of these dealers around here. I had somebody tell me "Half a million dollars in cash a month, you ain't ever gonna get that much money, ya taco!" And I also know that he lives alone, hmm.

bubububububu i thought you could afford it! you big boy baller you.

I don't want anything to with Horse, dumbass, I want his cash. And I can buy whatever drug I want, whenever I want.

drew · « **Reply #27 on:** September 22, 2011, 05:49:46 PM »

i've never seen brick weed that wasn't on television

Quote from: T234 on September 22, 2011, 05:49:42 PM

And I can buy whatever drug I want, whenever I want.

T234 · « **Reply #28 on:** September 22, 2011, 05:51:34 PM »

Bullshit, you're from Ohio, I automatically know that statement to be false.

drew · « **Reply #29 on:** September 22, 2011, 05:55:28 PM »

you're too hung up on locale, man

Himu · « **Reply #30 on:** September 22, 2011, 05:57:55 PM »

invite wrath

Robo · « **Reply #31 on:** September 22, 2011, 05:59:37 PM »

Quote from: Boogie on September 22, 2011, 05:38:50 PM

Quote from: T234 on September 22, 2011, 05:36:58 PM
I dunno, but I'm seriously thinking about robbing the shit out of some of these dealers around here. I had somebody tell me "Half a million dollars in cash a month, you ain't ever gonna get that much money, ya taco!" And I also know that he lives alone, hmm.

OMAR COMIN!

drew · « **Reply #32 on:** September 22, 2011, 06:01:11 PM »

trust me you don't want to smoke with me, hell i don't even want to smoke with me

T234 · « **Reply #33 on:** September 22, 2011, 06:04:19 PM »

I've kept hearing about Ohio-grown good weed but have yet to see anything that would bring more than ten a gram during a weed drought here. And don't say I haven't smoked with enough people from up there either, that statement would be foolish if you knew me.

Indiana on the other hand is British Colombia South. Way better weed for way less than their neighbors to the east. Wish I knew the lay of the land up there better, actually, and that says ALOT coming from me.

drew · « **Reply #34 on:** September 22, 2011, 06:08:52 PM »

yeah that's definitely not me, i just shut down socially and get naked and go swimming

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #35 on:** September 22, 2011, 07:21:11 PM »

Read this earlier and thought of drew...

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #36 on:** September 22, 2011, 07:31:37 PM »

i thought pot was supposed to chill you out and temper violent tendencies

j/k, i know that's bullshit

anyway, i hadn't smoked pot in ages but i had some a month or so ago that was pretty awesome, i felt like i had just had the best massage ever

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #37 on:** September 22, 2011, 07:58:38 PM »

Boogie, or anyone else in the know, I have question. I've been watching lots of docs on drugs/gangs lately which is why this comes up. If pot is mostly homegrown, how much of it is gang controlled?

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #38 on:** September 22, 2011, 08:03:46 PM »

Quote from: BlueTsunami on September 22, 2011, 07:21:11 PM

Read this earlier and thought of drew...

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#whitewhine

Boogie · « **Reply #39 on:** September 22, 2011, 08:40:07 PM »

Quote from: T234 on September 22, 2011, 05:42:10 PM

Maybe huge for Canada. Here it was just Wednesday.

up to $9 million wholesale, $24 million gram-level? C'mon dude, that's a fair chunk o' change to have holed up in your basement.

I mean it's no

http://www.vancouverite.com/2010/03/16/mob-lost-millions-in-1000-kilo-cocaine-shipment/

but what is?

Boogie · « **Reply #40 on:** September 22, 2011, 08:46:48 PM »

Quote from: TheInfelicitousDandy on September 22, 2011, 07:58:38 PM

Boogie, or anyone else in the know, I have question. I've been watching lots of docs on drugs/gangs lately which is why this comes up. If pot is mostly homegrown, how much of it is gang controlled?

An exact percentage is impossible to guess at, but the marijuana trade in Canada is huge and organized. Organized crime has a huge hand in the marijuana trade, be it Biker gangs, East Asian Organized Crime, traditional Italian OC, or Eastern European OC.

But a lot of the drug trade these days exists in more flexible, informal networks rather than traditional rigid hierarchies.

If you wanted something more detailed to read, here is the 2009 Report on the Illicit Drug Situation in Canada:

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/drugs-drogues/2009/index-eng.htm

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #41 on:** September 22, 2011, 08:53:26 PM »

This is going to start happening in the US. Like Mexico, we have a no-knock warrant policy so to be fair, what else can a criminal do but drop bodies in the street?

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #42 on:** September 22, 2011, 09:01:05 PM »

Someone should teach Mexicans the wonders of Hydrofluoric Acid

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #43 on:** September 22, 2011, 09:01:30 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on September 22, 2011, 08:53:26 PM

This is going to start happening in the US. Like Mexico, we have a no-knock warrant policy so to be fair, what else can a criminal do but drop bodies in the street?

6.8/10

drew · « **Reply #44 on:** September 22, 2011, 09:12:41 PM »

Quote from: dcharlie on September 22, 2011, 07:29:46 PM

[BRASS EYE YOUTUBE EMBED]

"Last one on drugs is a queer"

incredible

you can quit this shit now, you have passed the torch, i watched every ep of this in an afternoon and the entirety of the day today the next morning.

chronovore · « **Reply #45 on:** October 02, 2011, 11:51:49 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on September 22, 2011, 03:51:10 PM

Quote from: Joe Molotov® EDGE™ on September 22, 2011, 03:44:01 PM
If Mexico was in the middle east, we would have already invaded the crap out of it.

I know everyone's joking when they say this but the reason the US can't invade is the badguys aren't part of a visible government or shielded/helped by the visible government. The mexican government is vocally against the cartels, so what can the US do besides driving around shooting up mexicans and saying they were all drug dealers? That would be pretty iffy.

So you're saying the Afghanistan government was actively assisting Al Qaeda there? I mean, the gov't was maybe ignoring it, possibly being paid off by Al Qaeda... that kind of corruption doesn't exist in Mexico? What about the USA's actions in Pakistan?

If it were a priority, America could field a group of Special Forces that could make the whole thing look like a hit from a rival gang...

Hey...

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Author Topic: WTF, Mexico? (Read 3305 times)