Author Topic: Sony's solution to PS3 BC coming (Read 2367 times)

Eel O'Brian · « **on:** October 03, 2011, 09:25:00 AM »

It's called the ~~"Buy Your Shit All Over Again"~~ "Only on PlayStation Network" campaign

first wave of PS2 games this Tuesday - God Hand, GrimGrimoire, Maximo, Odin Sphere and Ring of Red

new batch the first Tuesday of every month

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/10/03/ps2-games-going-digital-in-only-on-playstation-network-campaig/

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #1 on:** October 03, 2011, 09:39:25 AM »

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #2 on:** October 03, 2011, 09:48:51 AM »

I think this is a weird case of there not being a new console to busy ourselves with during the dying gasps for the last generation of consoles. We're kind of just stuck watching Sony release HD versions of stuff to buy time.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #3 on:** October 03, 2011, 09:56:39 AM »

These aren't even HD, it's just straight-up PS2 emulation (so a lot of games just won't ever work). Still, I don't have a problem with it, I just think it's funny they're calling them all "rare, classic games." I think they should've kept one model of PS3 with BC in production, though, even if it were at a premium price.

T-Short · « **Reply #4 on:** October 03, 2011, 10:12:37 AM »

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #5 on:** October 03, 2011, 10:23:11 AM »

I'll finally play GrimGrimoire.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #6 on:** October 03, 2011, 10:29:52 AM »

evidently they're gonna be priced at $9.99

demi · « **Reply #7 on:** October 03, 2011, 10:56:54 AM »

So does this prove that Slims can play PS2 games? Hackers need to get on this

cool breeze · « **Reply #8 on:** October 03, 2011, 11:19:33 AM »

ignoring that PS3 doesn't have BC and this is the way for non-early adopters to play their PS2 games, by buying them again, I like that these games are available digitally. Hell, if the Vita wasn't a dumping ground, I'd guess these might be playable on that someday.

and if true, $9.99 is a fair price, but that's likely the bottom end. PS1 games are either $6 or $10. If Dirge of Cerberus is ever on PSN, i'm guessing $15. I think Xbox games were $20 on XBL and maybe dropped; I quickly checked and Halo is 1200 points (=$15?). Virtual Console has no account and N64 games are $10, but that's Nintendo.

iconoclast · « **Reply #9 on:** October 03, 2011, 11:59:14 AM »

Quote from: Linkzg on October 03, 2011, 11:19:33 AM

ignoring that PS3 doesn't have BC and this is the way for non-early adopters to play their PS2 games, by buying them again, I like that these games are available digitally. Hell, if the Vita wasn't a dumping ground, I'd guess these might be playable on that someday.

and if true, $9.99 is a fair price, but that's likely the bottom end. PS1 games are either $6 or $10. If Dirge of Cerberus is ever on PSN, i'm guessing $15. I think Xbox games were $20 on XBL and maybe dropped; I quickly checked and Halo is 1200 points (=$15?). Virtual Console has no account and N64 games are $10, but that's Nintendo.

I think Xbox 1 games have always been 1200 points/$15 on XBL. That's how much I payed for Ninja Gaiden Black a few years ago anyway.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #10 on:** October 03, 2011, 12:17:11 PM »

yeah, if they get this stuff up and running on the vita then i might be all in on a launch unit (depending on what's available) - between this, psp/ps1 games, psn games, and vita titles, they'd have a hell of a catalog

Bebpo · « **Reply #11 on:** October 03, 2011, 12:23:06 PM »

Quote from: dcharlie on October 03, 2011, 11:53:25 AM

if they've got these to run on the Vita then... hold me.

Yeah, this is all I care about.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #12 on:** October 03, 2011, 12:52:16 PM »

I've never played but always wanted to try Maximo

Bebpo · « **Reply #13 on:** October 03, 2011, 01:32:27 PM »

It's a good game. Same with the sequel (which has easier platforming but better combat/game progression).

Trent Dole · « **Reply #14 on:** October 03, 2011, 01:34:16 PM »

Odin Sphere for $10? Sure.

demi · « **Reply #15 on:** October 03, 2011, 04:06:05 PM »

Odin Sphere is garbage, guys.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #16 on:** October 03, 2011, 04:08:15 PM »

I'm more excited at the prospect of certain Japan-only titles making the transition.

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #17 on:** October 03, 2011, 04:12:23 PM »

Maximo 1 is awesome. It's also fucking hard and super rewarding.

Himu · « **Reply #18 on:** October 03, 2011, 04:30:20 PM »

this is great news. sony should have done this when 360 started doing xbl on demand crap of regular xbox games.

Robo · « **Reply #19 on:** October 03, 2011, 05:06:14 PM »

Maximo is one of the very best 3D platformers.

A kick in the balls to whomever buys Ring of Red.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #20 on:** October 03, 2011, 08:18:03 PM »

Maximo was good but I hate paying money to save. Maximo 2 was more enjoyable

pilonv1 · « **Reply #21 on:** October 03, 2011, 08:26:41 PM »

Ring of Red is awesome.

Rman · « **Reply #22 on:** October 03, 2011, 08:45:56 PM »

Meh. Gimme Gradius V.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #23 on:** October 04, 2011, 07:01:00 PM »

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-10-04-psn-imports-announced-for-europe

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The PlayStation Network Import store that launched in the US last year is finally on its way to Europe.

As announced on the PlayStation Blog, developer MonkeyPaw Games will be bringing over a number of Japan-only PS1 titles in their original form.

The first three game to hit the service will be notoriously daft side-scroller Cho Aniki, forgotten tactical RPG Arc the Lad and vertical shooter Arcade Hits: Sonic Wings Special.

Arc the Lad II, Arc Arena: Monster Tournament and Arc the Lad III are also incoming.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #24 on:** October 04, 2011, 07:33:41 PM »

Isnt Odin Sphere's item system garbage? That's what ive heard.

chronovore · « **Reply #25 on:** October 04, 2011, 08:18:25 PM »

Quote from: BobFromPikeCreek on October 03, 2011, 04:12:23 PM

Maximo 1 is awesome. It's also fucking hard and super rewarding.

Yeah, I enjoyed both of them. There were even action figures over here! I should'a bought one when I found it; I know a guy on the dev team, and he would have loved it. $:-\$

Bebpo · « **Reply #26 on:** October 04, 2011, 08:35:58 PM »

Quote from: MrAngryFace on October 04, 2011, 07:33:41 PM

Isnt Odin Sphere's item system garbage? That's what ive heard.

Odin Sphere is nice looking art and soundtrack, mediocre repetitive game.

Vanillaware and Level 5 are like a match made in heaven. Artists with no concept of gameplay design.

cool breeze · « **Reply #27 on:** October 04, 2011, 09:34:27 PM »

one person is claiming God Hand has technical issues not present in the PS2 version

pilonv1 · « **Reply #28 on:** October 04, 2011, 09:35:54 PM »

the issue is having to use your PS3

Trent Dole · « **Reply #29 on:** October 04, 2011, 09:48:00 PM »

'Play your old PS2 games, except somehow even less good!'

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #30 on:** October 04, 2011, 09:49:06 PM »

Man, if PS2 BC is this hard to implement on the PS3 you've got to wonder how PS3 BC will be handled (if at all) on the PS4 if there's a bit of an architecture shift.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #31 on:** October 04, 2011, 09:50:23 PM »

BC is dead. Everything will be re-released, gotta monetize everything.

demi · « **Reply #32 on:** October 04, 2011, 09:51:29 PM »

ha ha suckers. and u thought selling your collections was smart.

nothing beats an original.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #33 on:** October 04, 2011, 09:52:46 PM »

^^ truth

Trent Dole · « **Reply #34 on:** October 04, 2011, 09:53:39 PM »

cool breeze · « **Reply #35 on:** October 04, 2011, 10:02:58 PM »

so, is this straight up emulation?

can you access the XMB from in-game? because playing PS2 games on my PS3 has its own little interface for PS2 games. then again, I think it's that way with downloaded PS1 games.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #36 on:** October 04, 2011, 10:26:35 PM »

Quote from: demi on October 04, 2011, 09:51:29 PM

ha ha suckers. and u thought selling your collections was smart.

nothing beats an original.

except good-quality emulation & free games. or playing new games

Bebpo · « **Reply #37 on:** October 04, 2011, 10:36:25 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 04, 2011, 09:40:11 PM

it runs like it ran on the PS3 bc before, apparently, so it's not perfect.

edit: okay apparently it runs worse

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Just a heads up that God Hand has some slowdown when breaking boxes, killing demons, and doing infinites against walls. They also did something strange with the depth of field effect and added even more jaggies. Big jaggies. The resolution is possibly even lower than it was on the original PS2 and sometimes the ground glitches and little sparkles appear. The best thing you can do is hook your PS3 up to a CRT and play it on that.

PS2 version had slowdown in those spots though...

chronovore · « **Reply #38 on:** October 04, 2011, 10:37:31 PM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on October 04, 2011, 09:50:23 PM

BC is dead. Everything will be re-released, gotta monetize everything.

Spitting truth like a spitting thing, which spits truth.

There's no reason to bust your back working out free BC for everyone, when you can make money by re-selling something over and over again. And bringing it into digital sales is even more diabolically genius.

The we also have keeping the last-gen hardware on easy and cheap life support. Sony was making serious BANK selling PS2 well into this generation, having learned a small lesson from the mass abandonment of PS1 in the previous cycle.

demi · « **Reply #39 on:** October 04, 2011, 11:09:09 PM »

Quote from: Positive Touch on October 04, 2011, 10:26:35 PM

Quote from: demi on October 04, 2011, 09:51:29 PM
ha ha suckers. and u thought selling your collections was smart.

nothing beats an original.

except good-quality emulation & free games. or playing new games

meh, this would have been cool when i didnt have a job... justify my poorness

pilonv1 · « **Reply #40 on:** October 04, 2011, 11:39:24 PM »

Quote from: chronovore on October 04, 2011, 10:37:31 PM

Quote from: pilonv1 on October 04, 2011, 09:50:23 PM
BC is dead. Everything will be re-released, gotta monetize everything.

Spitting truth like a spitting thing, which spits truth.

There's no reason to bust your back working out free BC for everyone, when you can make money by re-selling something over and over again. And bringing it into digital sales is even more diabolically genius.

The best part of it is that you can release shit that doesn't even work 100% because "well its emulation LOL" or "well we could just not release it". People will buy it despite the complaints, company will make money, cycle continues.

maxy · « **Reply #41 on:** October 05, 2011, 02:26:26 AM »

Looks like Sony is trying to cash in software emulator work,they were working on it for few years now.

Crappy move but some people will bite even though they can get better quality by using PS2.

As for Vita,that would be nice

especially if it gets hacked

Bebpo · « **Reply #42 on:** October 05, 2011, 03:13:44 AM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 04, 2011, 11:52:59 PM

Quote from: Bebpo on October 04, 2011, 10:36:25 PM
PS2 version had slowdown in those spots though...

Yeah I dunno, I'm just passing on info. I'm not nearly enough of a dumbfuck to get on the frontlines of a new emulation initiative with my wallet.

Yeah, I'm not buying. I own all of the ones put up so far. Maybe if there's something I don't have like ZETTAI ZETSUMEI 2 but lol that's never going to happen

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #43 on:** October 05, 2011, 03:49:33 AM »

Splinter Cell collection is such lazy trash. You have to go to the dash to switch between games- LAZY

cool breeze · « **Reply #44 on:** October 05, 2011, 03:59:26 AM »

that's a problem with all the HD collections, except maybe sly because I haven't tried or heard about it yet.

I think it's because the games are sold individually on PSN too. It's just a different executable or something. The Ico/SotC Collection has a game selector at the start, then it gets into the proper credits and booting up for the individual games.

now I'm wondering how the Metal Gear Collection will be on the Xbox 360. On the PS3 it seems to be one blu-ray (except Japan, where Peace Walker and 2+3 are separate). three or four DVDs, maybe.

T-Short · « **Reply #45 on:** October 05, 2011, 04:26:01 AM »

PCSX2 on PC:

PSN version on PS3 with smoothing:

PSN version on PS3 without smoothing:

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #46 on:** October 05, 2011, 05:09:55 AM »

PCSX2

PSN+Smoothing isn't so bad, certainly the best expected outcome from a gimped processor and budget GPU

chronovore · « **Reply #47 on:** October 05, 2011, 05:45:06 AM »

I don't even know how many times I've bought GTA3-era games, but I'll probably buy again if they come to PSN. I have the Xbox 1 collection of all those, but sometimes you just want to hit TRIANGLE to 'jack a bitch's car, y'know?

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