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Prepare for at least 12 hours of a KNOXMANIA NEWS-CYCLE
« on: October 03, 2011, 02:51:16 PM »
A verdict in the Amanda Knox appeals trial is expected at 12:30 Pacific time.

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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2011, 03:05:44 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2011, 03:09:26 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2011, 03:10:05 PM »
I will check CNN in a little while, I will nod my head, then I'll go back to playing vidyas. And tomorrow I won't care.
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« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2011, 03:55:50 PM »
Acquited of murder charges.

Guilty of accusing that bartender as being involved in the murder. She has to pay 23,000 Euro for his legal fees.

The prosecution can appeal this, right? Can she leave Italy?
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« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2011, 03:58:03 PM »
I can honestly say I have no idea who she is or what she did. FEELS GOOD MAN
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« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2011, 03:59:25 PM »
University of Washington student who was accused of murdering her Brtish roommate while on a study abroad program in Perugia Italy back in 2007. The prosecution claimed it was some kind of satanic sex game murder. The prosecution also completely botched the investigation and basically tried to save face by charging her and her Italian boyfriend.

I don't think she did it, but I think she's fucked up.
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« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2011, 04:01:25 PM »
Yeah, she's at least as fucked up as most of my ex-gfs
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« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2011, 04:02:20 PM »
Bitch is crazy.
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« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2011, 04:07:40 PM »
Bitch is crazy.


Crazy bitch! Crazy bitch! She's super craaaazzzy yooww!!
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« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2011, 04:12:38 PM »
University of Washington student who was accused of murdering her Brtish roommate while on a study abroad program in Perugia Italy back in 2007. The prosecution claimed it was some kind of satanic sex game murder. The prosecution also completely botched the investigation and basically tried to save face by charging her and her Italian boyfriend.

I don't think she did it, but I think she's fucked up.

also isnt she a white chick who initially accused of black man of committing the crime?
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« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2011, 04:20:57 PM »
University of Washington student who was accused of murdering her Brtish roommate while on a study abroad program in Perugia Italy back in 2007. The prosecution claimed it was some kind of satanic sex game murder. The prosecution also completely botched the investigation and basically tried to save face by charging her and her Italian boyfriend.

I don't think she did it, but I think she's fucked up.

also isnt she a white chick who initially accused of black man of committing the crime?

You're right, she did accuse a Congolese bartender of being involved. That's what she was found guilty of and now has to pay 23,000 Euros.

Another black man was found guilty of murdering Kercher. He admitted doing it and his semen was found inside her. He's still in jail.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_...al_and_appeals


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In evidence he said that on the day of the murder he had visited the cottage for a date with Kercher, organised the previous night.[62] At Guede's trial, witnesses said that they had been with Kercher the night before, and had not seen them talk. Guede said that he had arrived at the cottage at 8:38 p.m.,[117] and that Kercher had arrived and let him in at about 9 p.m.[28] Kercher went to her bedroom and said that a significant amount of money was missing from an open drawer.[28] Guede stated that they kissed and touched each other but did not have sex. He then developed stomach pains and crossed to the large bathroom. Guede specified that he heard Kercher's screams while in the bathroom, but had been unable to hear the killer enter since he was wearing iPod headphones.[118] Guede reported that, emerging from the bathroom, he had found a shadowy figure, holding a knife, standing over Kercher, who lay bleeding on the floor. Guede said that they had struggled.[62] He was cut on the hand,[117] and fell to the floor, but picked up a chair.[28] Guede described the man as an Italian with light-brown hair, without glasses,[117] and shorter than him. The man fled while saying in perfect Italian, "Trovato negro, trovato colpevole; andiamo"[119] ("Found black, found guilty; let's go"). Guede's version of events did not account for Kercher's stolen mobile phones, which had been found in a park about ten minutes' walk from the house.[117]

On 28 October 2008, Guede was found guilty of the murder and sexual assault of Kercher and sentenced to 30 years in prison.[62] The court found that Guede's version of events did not match some of the forensic evidence, remarking that that he could not explain why one of his palm prints, stained with Kercher's blood, had been found on the pillow of the single bed, under the disrobed body,[28][120] when he had stated that he had left her fully dressed.[5]:175

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Giving evidence at the first of his two appeal trials, Guede said that while in the bathroom he heard Knox arguing with Kercher about money missing from the bedroom. He said that, glancing out of the window, he saw the silhouette of Knox leaving the house.[121] This testimony did not match the statements he made before his arrest in which he said that Knox was not at the flat at the time of the murder.[122][123]

On 22 December 2009, the Corte d'Appello upheld Guede's convictions, but cut his sentence to 16 years.[124] In March 2010, the court explained it reduced Guede's sentence by 14 years because he was the only one of the three defendants to apologise to the Kercher family for his "failure to come to her rescue".[125]
In May 2010, Guede filed his second and final appeal to the Court of Cassation. The hearing was held on 16 December 2010,[126][127] when the Court confirmed the verdict and sentence of 16 years.[128]




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Re: Prepare for at least 12 hours of a KNOXMANIA NEWS-CYCLE
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2011, 04:26:51 PM »
The prosecution accused her of a crime, so do they have to pay 23,000 euros too?
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« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2011, 04:33:32 PM »
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On 22 December 2009, the Corte d'Appello upheld Guede's convictions, but cut his sentence to 16 years.[124] In March 2010, the court explained it reduced Guede's sentence by 14 years because he was the only one of the three defendants to apologise to the Kercher family for his "failure to come to her rescue".

Wait, so he apologized for "failing to come to her rescue" while he was murdering her, so they cut his sentence in half? :lol
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« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2011, 04:43:44 PM »
Wait so accusing someone is now a crime? I don't quite follow that..

Defamation, apparently.
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« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2011, 04:45:31 PM »
Wait so accusing someone is now a crime? I don't quite follow that..

Defamation, apparently.

Yeah, she was found guilty of slander.
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« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2011, 04:46:06 PM »
She should be in jail for life for falsely accusing that guy.  So fucked up.

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« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2011, 04:46:20 PM »
I can honestly say I have no idea who she is or what she did. FEELS GOOD MAN


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« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2011, 04:46:55 PM »
She should be in jail for life for falsely accusing that guy.  So fucked up.

If the guy who really did it and then accused Knox and Sollecito only gets 16 years, no fucking way she deserves life.
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« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2011, 05:40:25 PM »
The prosecution can appeal this, right? Can she leave Italy?

From the article:

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Prosecutors can appeal the acquittal to Italy's highest court. There was no word late Monday if they planned to do so.

It wasn't clear how soon Knox could leave Italy but nothing in Italian law would prevent her from returning home, even if prosecutors appeal, legal experts say.
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« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2011, 05:49:56 PM »
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She should be in jail for life for falsely accusing that guy.  So fucked up.
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« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2011, 06:07:19 PM »
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Every time she comes up on the Bore, the consensus is "looks like she didn't do it, but man she's weird."

Well I'm too lazy to look it up.  Summarize for me!

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« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2011, 07:19:40 PM »
You guys are ok with a crazy bitch chick pinning a MURDER on an innocent guy and almost RUINING his life and putting him in jail forever because he was some poor sap who happened to be black?

Sorry, I feel the same way about those women who get found out to be making up false rape accusations.  These people should be locked away for life because they are a danger to society.  Any random innocent person can be accused of murder or rape and have their life destroyed out of the blue because these people exist.  A money slap on the wrist is not sufficient penalty for the crime.  Who says they won't falsely accuse someone else again?

At least put them in mental institutes. 

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« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2011, 07:27:30 PM »
She's been in jail for four years, I think that's enough. And so did the appeals jury:

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A slander conviction against Knox, who falsely accused barman Patrick Lumumba of the murders, was upheld, but since that was a three-year sentence it was considered time served.

And there's this:

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The Italian Supreme Court later found that Knox's human rights were violated because the police did not read her her legal rights, appoint her a lawyer or provide her an official interpreter and that her signed statement was inadmissible for Knox's and Sollecito's criminal trial.

Lumamba was held for all of two weeks, before being released.
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« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2011, 07:27:44 PM »
Btw, I don't do criminal because I hold very strong stances in terms of justice and they don't always line up with society.

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« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2011, 07:28:31 PM »
Btw, I don't do criminal because I hold very strong stances in terms of justice and they don't always line up with society.

And also make broad judgements without reading the facts!
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« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2011, 07:32:11 PM »
She's been in jail for four years, I think that's enough. And so did the appeals jury:

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A slander conviction against Knox, who falsely accused barman Patrick Lumumba of the murders, was upheld, but since that was a three-year sentence it was considered time served.

Four years is not enough for me.  Like I said these people are a danger to society and I would not want them on the streets.  In this case she would have been in jail this amount of time anyhow for the murder trial, so it's not like she will feel she was "punished" for the false accusation.

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And there's this:

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The Italian Supreme Court later found that Knox's human rights were violated because the police did not read her her legal rights, appoint her a lawyer or provide her an official interpreter and that her signed statement was inadmissible for Knox's and Sollecito's criminal trial.

Lumamba was held for all of two weeks, before being released.

Who cares.  Could have been 1 day, no days.  He got lucky that he had an alibi.  If he didn't he could have been jailed for the rest of his life.  You never know if a false accusation will lead to a day in jail, a hit to reputation, or the death penalty.  The risk is far too high.

Btw, I don't do criminal because I hold very strong stances in terms of justice and they don't always line up with society.

And also make broad judgements without reading the facts!

I read the facts.  I just think people are soft on false accusers and I think they are the worst scum of the earth along with actual murderers.
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« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2011, 07:33:57 PM »
But it's ok that the Italian police and prosecutors did all that to her, and that she was implicated by someone who was actually convicted of murder and is still in jail?
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« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2011, 07:34:45 PM »
two wrongs don't make a right

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« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2011, 07:35:34 PM »
two wrongs don't make a right

No they don't, but you don't seem to care much about what was done to her.

You can't pick and choose right and wrong.
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« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2011, 07:39:38 PM »
Sorry, I feel the same way about those women who get found out to be making up false rape accusations.  These people should be locked away for life because they are a danger to society. 

you DO know that most rapists only spend a few years in jail?  unless they happen to use a weapon because THEN its considered a violent crime lol

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« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2011, 07:40:31 PM »
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Who cares.  Could have been 1 day, no days.  He got lucky that he had an alibi.  If he didn't he could have been jailed for the rest of his life.  You never know if a false accusation will lead to a day in jail, a hit to reputation, or the death penalty.  The risk is far too high.

So anyone who accuses anyone else of any crime should spend the rest of their life in jail? Regardless of the circumstances in which the accusation was made?

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The Italian Supreme Court later found that Knox's human rights were violated because the police did not read her her legal rights, appoint her a lawyer or provide her an official interpreter and that her signed statement was inadmissible for Knox's and Sollecito's criminal trial.

The signed statement, the one deemed inadmissible in the murder trial because of human rights violations, was the one in which the accusation was made.
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« Reply #35 on: October 03, 2011, 07:41:22 PM »
You guys are ok with a crazy bitch chick pinning a MURDER on an innocent guy and almost RUINING his life and putting him in jail forever because he was some poor sap who happened to be black?

Sorry, I feel the same way about those women who get found out to be making up false rape accusations.  These people should be locked away for life because they are a danger to society.  Any random innocent person can be accused of murder or rape and have their life destroyed out of the blue because these people exist.  A money slap on the wrist is not sufficient penalty for the crime.  Who says they won't falsely accuse someone else again?

At least put them in mental institutes. 

Well, you've got a lot to learn about how hard it is for women to come forward when they have been raped.

Man this thread got down to moral relativist brass tacks REAL fast
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« Reply #36 on: October 03, 2011, 07:44:28 PM »
people make false accusations with frightening regularity, for all kinds of reasons -- some out of confusion and panic, some out of affronted privilege (knox), and some because they are evil sons-of-whores. legality isn't dogma; it's context and nuance, and IT'S WHY WE HAVE A JUSTICE SYSTEM AND YOU HAVE A JOB, BEBPO
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« Reply #37 on: October 03, 2011, 07:53:42 PM »
If there's one thing you learn in law school, it's that the legal system doesn't work 100% of the time.  Or even 90% of the time.  So you can't rely on it to just "sort things out".

I think if someone makes an accusation of a serious crime that, if found guilty would destroy ones reputation, livelihood, and freedom, with INTENT and MALICE or for an ULTERIOR PURPOSE (Knox), then it should be a serious crime.

You can argue she was coaxed into making the accusation because the police failed in their jobs (and should be fired for it), and because "Italians hate all American girls  ::)", but I'm siding that she knew what she was doing when she pinned it on the guy.

The prosecution did a terrible job and the whole thing was a total disaster, but sorry I don't feel bad about her spending 4 years in jail since she will now be a rich and famous individual thanks to book/movie deals. 


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« Reply #39 on: October 03, 2011, 09:04:50 PM »
Btw, I don't do criminal because I hold very strong stances in terms of justice and they don't always line up with society.

And also make broad judgements without reading the facts!

I'm starting to see why women don't want anything to do with him... it's not JUST the creepy loli fascination!
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« Reply #40 on: October 03, 2011, 09:22:27 PM »
Wait so accusing someone is now a crime? I don't quite follow that..

Here in Canada:

 Every one commits public mischief who, with intent to mislead, causes a peace officer to enter on or continue an investigation by

(a) making a false statement that accuses some other person of having committed an offence;

(b) doing anything intended to cause some other person to be suspected of having committed an offence that the other person has not committed, or to divert suspicion from himself;

(c) reporting that an offence has been committed when it has not been committed; or

(d) reporting or in any other way making it known or causing it to be made known that he or some other person has died when he or that other person has not died.

Punishment

(2) Every one who commits public mischief

(a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years; or

(b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.


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She should be in jail for life for falsely accusing that guy.  So fucked up.
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« Reply #41 on: October 03, 2011, 09:33:44 PM »
but I'm siding that she knew what she was doing when she pinned it on the guy.

on what evidence, denny crane?
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« Reply #42 on: October 03, 2011, 10:04:00 PM »
I thought this was going to be about gelatin  :(

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« Reply #43 on: October 03, 2011, 10:07:35 PM »
This thread was supposed to be fun! I've created a monster!
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« Reply #44 on: October 03, 2011, 10:18:22 PM »
This thread was supposed to be fun! I've created a monster!

You knew what you were doing when you created this thread.
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« Reply #45 on: October 03, 2011, 10:20:24 PM »
Yes. I now owe Italy a couple thousand euros :(
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« Reply #46 on: October 03, 2011, 10:21:55 PM »
Yes. I now owe Italy a couple thousand euros :(

Fortunately, your cosplaying lawyer has plea-bargained you into a life sentence.
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« Reply #47 on: October 03, 2011, 10:31:38 PM »
:rofl
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« Reply #48 on: October 03, 2011, 10:35:55 PM »
HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING
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« Reply #49 on: October 03, 2011, 10:38:29 PM »
Would it help if I said I was kinda hot but crazy?
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« Reply #50 on: October 03, 2011, 10:41:21 PM »
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