Author Topic: MEN ARE IN DECLINE - FEMALE TAKE OVER IMMINENT, MEN ARE GODLESS HEATHENS (Read 1783 times)

Himu · « **on:** October 04, 2011, 11:31:22 PM »

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/04/opinion/bennett-men-in-trouble/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

HERE'S THE ARTICLE CTRL+V'D BUT YOU BIG SOFTIES SO YOU DONT' HAVE TO GIVE CNN HITS

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Editor's note: William J. Bennett, a CNN contributor, is the author of "The Book of Man: Readings on the Path to Manhood." Bennett is the Washington fellow of the Claremont Institute. He was U.S. secretary of education from 1985 to 1988 and was director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy under President George H.W. Bush.

(CNN) -- For the first time in history, women are better educated, more ambitious and arguably more successful than men.
Now, society has rightly celebrated the ascension of one sex. We said, "You go girl," and they went. We celebrate the ascension of women but what will we do about what appears to be the very real decline of the other sex?

The data does not bode well for men. In 1970, men earned 60% of all college degrees. In 1980, the figure fell to 50%, by 2006 it was 43%. Women now surpass men in college degrees by almost three to two. Women's earnings grew 44% in real dollars from 1970 to 2007, compared with 6% growth for men.

In 1950, 5% of men at the prime working age were unemployed. As of last year, 20% were not working, the highest ever recorded. Men still maintain a majority of the highest paid and most powerful occupations, but women are catching them and will soon be passing them if this trend continues.

The warning signs for men stretch far beyond their wallets. Men are more distant from a family or their children then they have ever been. The out-of-wedlock birthrate is more than 40% in America. In 1960, only 11% of children in the U.S. lived apart from their fathers. In 2010, that share had risen to 27%. Men are also less religious than ever before. According to Gallup polling, 39% of men reported attending church regularly in 2010, compared to 47% of women.

If you don't believe the numbers, just ask young women about men today. You will find them talking about prolonged adolescence and men who refuse to grow up. I've heard too many young women asking, "Where are the decent single men?" There is a maturity deficit among men out there, and men are falling behind.

This decline in founding virtues -- work, marriage, and religion -- has caught the eye of social commentators from all corners. In her seminal article, "The End of Men," Hanna Rosin unearthed the unprecedented role reversal that is taking place today. "Man has been the dominant sex since, well, the dawn of mankind. But for the first time in human history, that is changing—and with shocking speed," writes Rosin. The changes in modern labor -- from backs to brains -- have catapulted women to the top of the work force, leaving men in their dust.
Hanna Rosin: Are women leaving men behind?

Man's response has been pathetic. Today, 18-to- 34-year-old men spend more time playing video games a day than 12-to- 17-year-old boys. While women are graduating college and finding good jobs, too many men are not going to work, not getting married and not raising families. Women are beginning to take the place of men in many ways. This has led some to ask: do we even need men?

So what's wrong? Increasingly, the messages to boys about what it means to be a man are confusing. The machismo of the street gang calls out with a swagger. Video games, television and music offer dubious lessons to boys who have been abandoned by their fathers. Some coaches and drill sergeants bark, "What kind of man are you?" but don't explain.

Movies are filled with stories of men who refuse to grow up and refuse to take responsibility in relationships. Men, some obsessed with sex, treat women as toys to be discarded when things get complicated. Through all these different and conflicting signals, our boys must decipher what it means to be a man, and for many of them it is harder to figure out.

For boys to become men, they need to be guided through advice, habit, instruction, example and correction. It is true in all ages. Someone once characterized the two essential questions Plato posed as: Who teaches the children, and what do we teach them? Each generation of men and women have an obligation to teach the younger males (and females of course) coming behind them. William Wordsworth said, "What we have loved, others will love, and we will teach them how." When they fail in that obligation, trouble surely follows.

We need to respond to this culture that sends confusing signals to young men, a culture that is agnostic about what it wants men to be, with a clear and achievable notion of manhood.

The Founding Fathers believed, and the evidence still shows, that industriousness, marriage and religion are a very important basis for male empowerment and achievement. We may need to say to a number of our twenty-something men, "Get off the video games five hours a day, get yourself together, get a challenging job and get married." It's time for men to man up.[/quote]

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #1 on:** October 04, 2011, 11:34:04 PM »

Married for five years.

Have a Masters degree and a full time job.

Own a house.

Zero credit card debt.

Baby girl on the way.

AND I PLAY FUCKING VIDEO GAMES.

Suck it, stupid editorial writer.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #2 on:** October 04, 2011, 11:35:32 PM »

Yeah the article is crap, my life is awesome.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #3 on:** October 04, 2011, 11:40:48 PM »

I'm all for this. After all those centuries of men doing the hard work while those lazy women nursed the children and kept the home, it's now the women's turn to be the breadwinner. Except instead of nursing children men will be nursing Call of Duty and keeping a stack of paper plates handy.

Himu · « **Reply #4 on:** October 04, 2011, 11:41:11 PM »

Quote from: TheInfelicitousDandy on October 04, 2011, 11:40:48 PM

I'm all for this. After all those centuries of men doing the hard work while those lazy women nursed the children, it's now the women's turn to be the breadwinner. Except instead of nursing children men will be nursing Call of Duty.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #5 on:** October 04, 2011, 11:49:21 PM »

MORE OPPRESSION NEEDED STAT

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #6 on:** October 04, 2011, 11:54:17 PM »

Article written by: Cranky old white guy

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #7 on:** October 05, 2011, 12:00:57 AM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on October 04, 2011, 11:54:17 PM

Article written by: Cranky old white guy

Who probably got stuck in a marriage to some woman who doesn't let him have fun. Ever.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #8 on:** October 05, 2011, 12:09:58 AM »

oh man, if men don't shape up women will take their spot

cool breeze · « **Reply #9 on:** October 05, 2011, 12:12:28 AM »

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This has led some to ask: do we even need men?

who are these some? why are they so willing to discard men when things get complicated?

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If you don't believe the numbers, just ask young women about men today. You will find them talking about prolonged adolescence and men who refuse to grow up. I've heard too many young women asking, "Where are the decent single men?"

wait, if I don't believe your carefully and poorly selected statistics, I should ask young women something somethingsomethinggg

wait, why is an old white man talking to too many young women about their dating lives?

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Movies are filled with stories of men who refuse to grow up and refuse to take responsibility in relationships.

watch Eat Pray Love

Himu · « **Reply #10 on:** October 05, 2011, 12:14:52 AM »

the funny thing about the "decent single men" question is that I ask the same fucking shit about women

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #11 on:** October 05, 2011, 12:17:43 AM »

I keep most of the decent single men locked up in my basement

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #12 on:** October 05, 2011, 12:20:35 AM »

OOOO lock me up*

*said in my gay voice

chronovore · « **Reply #13 on:** October 05, 2011, 12:53:41 AM »

This is what will bring corporations back to America! A highly educated work force they can pay less than males.

Bildi · « **Reply #14 on:** October 05, 2011, 01:00:04 AM »

Quote from: TheInfelicitousDandy on October 05, 2011, 12:20:35 AM

OOOO lock me up*

*said in my gay voice

pilonv1 · « **Reply #15 on:** October 05, 2011, 01:02:15 AM »

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on October 05, 2011, 12:00:57 AM

Quote from: Great Rumbler on October 04, 2011, 11:54:17 PM
Article written by: Cranky old white guy

Who probably got stuck in a marriage to some woman who doesn't let him have fun. Ever.

Winner

Bildi · « **Reply #16 on:** October 05, 2011, 01:08:12 AM »

Except he's a real man. So he probably just cheats on her.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #17 on:** October 05, 2011, 01:17:29 AM »

Quote from: Bildi on October 05, 2011, 01:00:04 AM

Quote from: TheInfelicitousDandy on October 05, 2011, 12:20:35 AM
OOOO lock me up*

*said in my gay voice

(Image removed from quote.)

I've been listening to too much ISIRTA.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 05, 2011, 01:30:18 AM »

Quote from: Bildi on October 05, 2011, 01:08:12 AM

Except he's a real man. So he probably just cheats on her.

And mentally abuses her

Bildi · « **Reply #19 on:** October 05, 2011, 01:37:01 AM »

I have so much to learn.

Beezy · « **Reply #20 on:** October 05, 2011, 02:05:07 AM »

I love how going to church less is one of their negatives.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #21 on:** October 05, 2011, 07:07:14 AM »

It's a pretty dumb article and misandrist in more than a few places.

Diunx · « **Reply #22 on:** October 05, 2011, 08:48:51 AM »

I have no issues with being a stay at home dad.

*take the kids to school*
*play videogames*
*pick up the kids from school and stop by burger king on the way*
*play video games*
*play video games*
*call pizza hut*
*play video games*

WINNING!

Brehvolution · « **Reply #23 on:** October 05, 2011, 09:33:03 AM »

Not surprising. Technology lets people create their own insular world. The next generation is going to be even worse.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #24 on:** October 05, 2011, 09:41:45 AM »

A big part of humanity is one step away from not leaving their homes anymore, I agree Zero Hero.

Mandark · « **Reply #25 on:** October 05, 2011, 09:54:28 AM »

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/readme/2003/05/bill_bennetts_bad_bet.html

Brehvolution · « **Reply #26 on:** October 05, 2011, 09:58:51 AM »

I'm definitely not helping the cause. My oldest spends most of her free time on the computer and my son spends most of his playing wii or PS3. The middle one, she doesn't have any noticeable vices yet. She like to ride her bike and lay around watching TV.
Sometimes a quiet house is more important to me.

tiesto · « **Reply #27 on:** October 05, 2011, 10:00:08 AM »

I do want to get married eventually, but haven't met the right girl yet.

Funny enough, I dumped my last girlfriend... because she was lazy and didn't have her shit together (just the opposite of this article!)

Mupepe · « **Reply #28 on:** October 05, 2011, 01:27:01 PM »

I dunno, Spencer. I think a lot of that reflects the identity issues associated with males over the last 20-30 years. The whole idea of a man has changed so much. Raised on the testosterone driven images of our fathers in a society that no longer enforces that image. Throw that with the conflicting bullshit of respect women, but also be aggressive/a dick (thanks, romcoms) and be sensitive but don't be a pussy. there's definitely an internal struggle over what a male should be and I think the media just reflects that now. As with everything the media does it is definitely exaggerated. See Knocked Up. Bumbling do-right idiot manchild needs a woman to finally get his life in order.

Himu · « **Reply #29 on:** October 05, 2011, 01:36:44 PM »

I FEEL OPPRESSED AS A MAN. IT'S HARD BEING A MAN. BUT SOMEONE'S GOTTA DO IT.

Mupepe · « **Reply #30 on:** October 05, 2011, 01:38:06 PM »

Yeah. It's definitely hard

Mupepe · « **Reply #31 on:** October 05, 2011, 01:39:14 PM »

Quote from: Wrath2X on October 05, 2011, 01:38:14 PM

Sounds more like first world problems to me, mups.

Well I do live in a first world country so it makes sense

Himu · « **Reply #32 on:** October 05, 2011, 01:43:22 PM »

Quote from: Wrath2X on October 05, 2011, 01:38:14 PM

Sounds more like first world problems to me, mups.

I'm not sure if it's a first world problem or an American problem because I don't live outside America.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #33 on:** October 05, 2011, 06:15:13 PM »

If anything games have finally gone mainstream with men past the college age. They're comparable to sports now. And just as a passion for watching sports doesn't hinder most guys, neither will a passion for gaming. Guys can't have more than one hobby? fuckouttahere

A chick can be a professional and still watch soaps, Glee, etc etc etc. So why can't guys have their own passions as well

Mupepe · « **Reply #34 on:** October 05, 2011, 06:22:25 PM »

because men must be stoic and serious. Our only passions should be work, fixing the car and mowing the lawn. Maybe a garden if you wanna get crazy about it

Brehvolution · « **Reply #35 on:** October 05, 2011, 08:50:31 PM »

Is this the result of the gay agenda?

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #36 on:** October 06, 2011, 06:24:56 AM »

Quote from: Spencer on October 05, 2011, 10:47:05 AM

I blame the way men are treated in media. I'm talking about commercials and movies, etc. Men have been getting this image as incapable bumbling fools.

I agree with your post and also add in the rise of manchild comedies. There are a lot of men I know in their mid-late 20s doing their best impression of Will Ferrell and Seth Rogen.

chronovore · « **Reply #37 on:** October 06, 2011, 07:09:18 AM »

Quote from: Spencer on October 05, 2011, 10:47:05 AM

I blame the way men are treated in media. I'm talking about commercials and movies, etc. Men have been getting this image as incapable bumbling fools.

Yeah, all the while I feel like I see men trying harder than ever to not be constant louts.

Present company gracefully excepted.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #38 on:** October 06, 2011, 10:20:21 AM »

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There. That should keep men going for another year or two, at least.

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Author Topic: MEN ARE IN DECLINE - FEMALE TAKE OVER IMMINENT, MEN ARE GODLESS HEATHENS (Read 1783 times)