Author Topic: Truly outrageous: Gem system full reveal for SF x Tekken (Read 5255 times)

Don Flamenco · « **on:** December 14, 2011, 01:38:34 PM »

http://www.capcom-unity.com/brelston/blog/2011/12/14/street_fighter_x_tekken:_standard_and_pre-order_gems_listed,_explained

what in the flying fuck.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #1 on:** December 14, 2011, 01:41:26 PM »

god damnit, retailers

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #2 on:** December 14, 2011, 01:43:24 PM »

Quote from: MrAngryFace on December 14, 2011, 01:41:26 PM

god damnit, retailers

god damnit capcom

i can't even tell if this is an optional subsystem or if it's the game

brob · « **Reply #3 on:** December 14, 2011, 01:46:58 PM »

and so begins the second dark age of fighting games. I'm used to shmups having to use loli aesthetics to sell, I expect I'll adjust to fighters doing the same...

anyway, VF5 Final Solution is out next year so I don't care.

brob · « **Reply #4 on:** December 14, 2011, 01:51:10 PM »

A Senior Product Manager doesn't really strike me as a "special, special guest" Ms. Rene...

edit: lol this video is so embarrassing.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #5 on:** December 14, 2011, 01:52:57 PM »

it won't be a bad dark age like when nothing came out for years except SFAnniversary and DOA games. the scene will stick to what's good and I think SF4 and UMVC3 are deep enough to sustain interest for a long while. it's just that it won't grow a whole lot because capcom japan is fucking stupid.

but who knows, maybe this won't be so terrible, but my initial reaction is in the op...

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #6 on:** December 14, 2011, 01:54:15 PM »

pre-order gems are my problem- the MvC3 costume thing was annoying, now we've got this.

archie4208 · « **Reply #7 on:** December 14, 2011, 01:55:00 PM »

Truly truly truly outrageous.

brob · « **Reply #8 on:** December 14, 2011, 01:57:23 PM »

Between 3S online, SSF4:AE and VF5:FS I'm good for a while. Would have been nice to have a Darkstalkers or Last Blade but it's not like that's gonna happen.

And besides, Soul Calibur 5 is talked fondly of (although I haven't seen much myself) and Tekken x SF has a bigger potential to interests me than this I think.

Beezy · « **Reply #9 on:** December 14, 2011, 01:59:58 PM »

losing interest...

Robo · « **Reply #10 on:** December 14, 2011, 02:05:12 PM »

It's not that bad. DLC gems are dumb, for sure; granting bonuses to people who buy additional content is fundamentally broken. Online is going to be fucked if there isn't some separation. From an offline competitive point of view, the FGC is just going to need to implement some sort of rules with regard to what's fair use and what isn't (i.e. on-disc gems only, no gems, all gems cry more poors). Not that big of a deal.

brob · « **Reply #11 on:** December 14, 2011, 02:06:52 PM »

no gems, final destination.

Beezy · « **Reply #12 on:** December 14, 2011, 02:07:30 PM »

Quote from: Brobzoid on December 14, 2011, 02:06:52 PM

no gems, final destination.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #13 on:** December 14, 2011, 02:12:41 PM »

If you preorder the Super-Special-OMG-Edition, all your opponents start out with half a lifebar and are forced to play as Dan.

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #14 on:** December 14, 2011, 02:27:14 PM »

Quote from: Brobzoid on December 14, 2011, 02:06:52 PM

no gems, final destination.

Man. This is exactly what I wanted to post.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #15 on:** December 14, 2011, 02:28:23 PM »

A few gems I get (MSH) but wtf @ that many.

Himu · « **Reply #16 on:** December 14, 2011, 02:32:30 PM »

so is this possible in versus? because this will break the balance of the game, right? this is dumb.

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #17 on:** December 14, 2011, 02:33:37 PM »

I love when game designers are like "we know nobody wants this, but fuck you we're forcing it down your throat anyway."

Robo · « **Reply #18 on:** December 14, 2011, 02:37:09 PM »

Look forward to scanning pages and pages of gems every time you select a character (and waiting for your opponent to do the same).

brob · « **Reply #19 on:** December 14, 2011, 02:38:19 PM »

brob · « **Reply #20 on:** December 14, 2011, 02:41:19 PM »

I think this game is made for people who flowchart and rage quit when it stops working. Just pay for some over-powered bullshit and mash it out.

bork · « **Reply #21 on:** December 14, 2011, 03:16:39 PM »

I'm beginning to think this game is going to go the way of Pocket Fighter, which coincidentally had a gem system too-- the game gets released and is ruined by a lack of depth (or in this case, the broken gem system), players drop it quickly and go back to Street Fighter and the Vs. games.

This game NEEDS to have the gem system shit put into a separate mode. Soul Calibur IV had special item customizations that enhanced characters. Namco wisely kept this separate. And I never touched that mode once!

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #22 on:** December 14, 2011, 06:35:06 PM »

i like it when ultradavid gets sassy.

anyway, fuck this game hope it fails enjoy ur mountain dew to unlock gems promos capcom it's almost the 90s again

Die ~~Ano~~ Ono!

iconoclast · « **Reply #23 on:** December 14, 2011, 07:32:43 PM »

Quote from: Brobzoid on December 14, 2011, 02:41:19 PM

I think this game is made for people who flowchart and rage quit when it stops working. Just pay for some over-powered bullshit and mash it out.

Didn't Capcom say they want to make this a party game like Smash? I'm not even trolling, that's a genuine question. They probably just want to make it casual so they can rope back in all of the people who bought SF4 and then promptly stopped playing fighting games again.

I guess I don't really care if this game blows, anyway. There are already way more fighting games currently out there than I'll ever be able to play competently, so there will just be 1 less game to divide my time. shrug

Robo · « **Reply #24 on:** December 14, 2011, 07:40:22 PM »

I could be wrong, but I don't think they have, and that might be part of what's creating the backlash. If they would say outright, "this is a party fighter", I think people would be more accepting of what they're trying to do here (there's no excusing that sort of retail exclusive DLC, but you know what I mean) rather than trying to analyze how balance is supposed to fit into all these subsystems.

Might lose a few sales from people looking for more serious, competitive fighting games, but this game is already looking like a big joke. Might as well come out with it.

brob · « **Reply #25 on:** December 14, 2011, 07:47:38 PM »

I think they would consider that a hit to their pride. They threw bullshit mechanics in their other fighting games and they were accepted competitively and I doubt Capcom/Ono/whoever is seeing the difference. The point of balance being thrown off by way of pay-to-play DLC isn't what most a shouting about - but even if there was a unified chant against pre-order and DLC gems I don't think the suits at capcom who ultimately have a say in that matter would give a shit. All is lost, hide yo wife, etc.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #26 on:** December 14, 2011, 07:47:58 PM »

Doesn't matter to me. All I've ever known is fireball and dragon punch.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #27 on:** December 14, 2011, 08:18:20 PM »

This shit is precisely why I stopped playing fighting games

bork · « **Reply #28 on:** December 14, 2011, 08:34:24 PM »

Quote from: Sho Nuff on December 14, 2011, 08:18:20 PM

This shit is precisely why I stopped playing fighting games

But this shit isn't in all fighting games!

brob · « **Reply #29 on:** December 14, 2011, 08:36:50 PM »

VF5!! the savior!!!

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #30 on:** December 14, 2011, 08:50:14 PM »

hmmm, i don't know if I'll ever like it as much as I liked VF4 and Evo. they had nice addicting single player modes though.

brob · « **Reply #31 on:** December 14, 2011, 08:55:26 PM »

monkey girl

Himu · « **Reply #32 on:** December 14, 2011, 08:58:27 PM »

Quote from: Don Flamenco on December 14, 2011, 08:50:14 PM

hmmm, i don't know if I'll ever like it as much as I liked VF4 and Evo. they had nice addicting single player modes though.

vf5 had an even better sp mode than vf4

iconoclast · « **Reply #33 on:** December 14, 2011, 09:08:12 PM »

Quote from: Brobzoid on December 14, 2011, 08:55:26 PM

monkey girl

She had the best music too

Too bad the VF5R and VF5FS versions aren't as good

Trent Dole · « **Reply #34 on:** December 15, 2011, 12:48:19 AM »

Who thought this was a good idea?

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #35 on:** December 15, 2011, 12:57:54 AM »

Quote from: Trent Dole on December 15, 2011, 12:48:19 AM

Who thought this was a good idea?

marketing

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #36 on:** December 15, 2011, 01:14:57 AM »

I only just now got the awesome pun in the thread title

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #37 on:** December 15, 2011, 01:45:49 AM »

I don't play fighting games anymore so my opinion is worthless but I like the idea of the gems as a general concept. I liked Gem Fighter back in the day balanced be damned because it was fun and different. Not everything has to be super serious and made for an elite fighting game crowd. Not to mention Capcom puts out a fighter a year now so its seems very easy to skip a version if you don't like this.

Now the retailer exclusive bonus shit would piss me the fuck off. That's some stupid evil shit right there. It would be like playing COD but I could only get the quickdraw perk if I bought the game from a specific store. That is nuts. You can't leave out important gameplay stuff and divide it up as retailer shit. Leave that to costumes or other extra cosmetic perks.

Owl-faced Wizard · « **Reply #38 on:** December 15, 2011, 10:41:36 AM »

Quote from: Brobzoid on December 14, 2011, 08:36:50 PM

VF5!! the savior!!!

Would much rather play a CCG fighter than The Most Boring Fighting Game In The Universe.

Himu · « **Reply #39 on:** December 15, 2011, 10:51:52 AM »

Quote from: Owl-faced Wizard on December 15, 2011, 10:41:36 AM

Quote from: Brobzoid on December 14, 2011, 08:36:50 PM
VF5!! the savior!!!

Would much rather play a CCG fighter than The Most Boring Fighting Game In The Universe.

God you do have shit taste. $:-\$

Robo · « **Reply #40 on:** December 15, 2011, 10:58:48 AM »

I looked up "CCG" and then I laughed.

brob · « **Reply #41 on:** December 15, 2011, 11:03:12 AM »

I wonder what Owl Face actually likes, and if, when he discusses those things, he is able to articulate something resembling a thought-out opinion.

Himu · « **Reply #42 on:** December 15, 2011, 11:07:38 AM »

Probably likes Nintendo games and Tekken.

Robo · « **Reply #43 on:** December 15, 2011, 11:07:45 AM »

I would probably still be playing VF5 today if it hadn't come out at a time when there wasn't a good arcade stick option for the HD consoles. Wrestling precise motions out of that fucking Hori EX2 was not worth it, unfortunately.

Himu · « **Reply #44 on:** December 15, 2011, 11:08:49 AM »

all i remember about vf5 360 online is the lag

is there still a community?

Owl-faced Wizard · « **Reply #45 on:** December 15, 2011, 12:07:16 PM »

Quote from: Brobzoid on December 15, 2011, 11:03:12 AM

I wonder what Owl Face actually likes, and if, when he discusses those things, he is able to articulate something resembling a thought-out opinion.

Don't worry, I promise that when somebody takes a harmless jab at a game I like the tears will flow like wine. It's only fair.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #46 on:** December 15, 2011, 12:10:35 PM »

VF5 is the only game at which I continuously whomp ass. Then the people I beat tell me VF sucks and isnt worth playing :'(

Himu · « **Reply #47 on:** December 15, 2011, 12:12:22 PM »

I don't understand why people dislike VF. Guess they're too used to their Tekken and Smash Bros.

Robo · « **Reply #48 on:** December 15, 2011, 12:14:49 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on December 15, 2011, 11:08:49 AM

all i remember about vf5 360 online is the lag

is there still a community?

There are a total of 6 registered users on the VFDC forum right now, so I would say no. http://virtuafighter.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/forum_summary

brob · « **Reply #49 on:** December 15, 2011, 12:18:06 PM »

810 people like Virtua Fighter on facebook, surely that counts for something!

Quote from: Stringer Bell on December 15, 2011, 12:12:22 PM

I don't understand why people dislike VF. Guess they're too used to their Tekken and Smash Bros.

HIT SPARKS

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #50 on:** December 15, 2011, 12:18:49 PM »

That's what happens when you do constant arcade updates and then:

1.) Don't release them in the USA
2.) Don't release console versions

Seriously, look at the number of releases in the Tekken series vs. the number of releases in the VF series. Sega clearly puts zero priority on it even though HOW AWESOME would it be to have VF5 on the Vita.

Actually, come to think of it, there's never been a handheld VF.

Himu · « **Reply #51 on:** December 15, 2011, 12:22:20 PM »

I remember a lot of people played VF during the VF4 era. Now I'm the only person I know who plays and likes VF.

Every time I mention VF, people say shit like "you have to count frames" and shit and I'm curious if they've ever played VF

Himu · « **Reply #52 on:** December 15, 2011, 12:24:33 PM »

"Virtua Fighter is slow"

Counter:

brob · « **Reply #53 on:** December 15, 2011, 12:25:04 PM »

Himu · « **Reply #54 on:** December 15, 2011, 12:30:08 PM »

The best fighting game series

Owl-faced Wizard · « **Reply #55 on:** December 15, 2011, 12:32:33 PM »

Quote from: Brobzoid on December 15, 2011, 12:25:04 PM

The joke is that Virtua Fighter is actually boring. That's funny.

Himu · « **Reply #56 on:** December 15, 2011, 12:37:37 PM »

Or that you're distinguished mentally-challenged

brob · « **Reply #57 on:** December 15, 2011, 12:39:49 PM »

no himu, hitsparks is the source of real fun™ #VirtuaBoredom

Himu · « **Reply #58 on:** December 15, 2011, 12:51:26 PM »

Is that what those lightning things are in Tekken? They're fucking distinguished mentally-challenged. Made sense in the 1995 or whatever but including them in games past psx level of power was stupid. I play my Tekken: Dark Resurrection on ps3 and it has the depth and speed of a psx fighting game, looks like one too thanks to the crappy sparks.

Owl-faced Wizard · « **Reply #59 on:** December 15, 2011, 12:59:49 PM »

It's not that VF isn't flashy enough or whatever, it's just that it doesn't have any remotely interesting game mechanics. It's like an all-you-can-eat buffet of macaroni cheese. Who gives a shit how deep the trough is if all you are gonna get out of it is macaroni cheese. Unreal Tournament has super interesting gameplay despite being not nearly as complex as VF. You should play that - I think it's less dead than VF.

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Author Topic: Truly outrageous: Gem system full reveal for SF x Tekken (Read 5255 times)