Author Topic: Windows 8 Release Preview (Read 5785 times)

From what I can tell, Windows 7 was the first OS MS has created that was pretty ok at launch. WHY ARE WE TEMPTING FATE HERE AND TRYING NEW SHIT? I guess I'm just a crotchety old man, but if it ain't broke don't fix it. Now you kids GET OFF MY FUCKING LAWN.

MCD · « **Reply #18 on:** February 29, 2012, 12:50:51 PM »

Because technology can't and must not stop. This is the usual 3 year cycle for new Windows OS, nothing is different.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #19 on:** February 29, 2012, 12:55:22 PM »

I really love Metro. Better designed interface than Apple's done with their home computer/laptop market. And Apple is even trying to make their shit more iPad like.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #20 on:** February 29, 2012, 01:47:31 PM »

Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on February 29, 2012, 12:38:29 PM

From what I can tell, Windows 7 was the first OS MS has created that was pretty ok at launch. WHY ARE WE TEMPTING FATE HERE AND TRYING NEW SHIT? I guess I'm just a crotchety old man, but if it ain't broke don't fix it. Now you kids GET OFF MY FUCKING LAWN.

because the competition will eat us alive if we don't? crotchety people who don't spend money don't get to decide the market. :-(

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #21 on:** February 29, 2012, 01:48:25 PM »

Quote from: Van Cruncheon on February 29, 2012, 01:47:31 PM

Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on February 29, 2012, 12:38:29 PM
From what I can tell, Windows 7 was the first OS MS has created that was pretty ok at launch. WHY ARE WE TEMPTING FATE HERE AND TRYING NEW SHIT? I guess I'm just a crotchety old man, but if it ain't broke don't fix it. Now you kids GET OFF MY FUCKING LAWN.

because the competition will eat us alive if we don't? crotchety people who don't spend money don't get to decide the market. :-(

It's exactly that sort of thinking that gave us Vista. VISTA!

MCD · « **Reply #22 on:** February 29, 2012, 01:55:03 PM »

Vista gave us 7.

WHY DO WE FALL, BRUCE?

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #23 on:** February 29, 2012, 01:55:14 PM »

change things, people get mad- dont change things, people get mad

MCD · « **Reply #24 on:** February 29, 2012, 01:58:51 PM »

Quote from: MrAngryFace on February 29, 2012, 01:55:14 PM

change things, people get mad- dont change things, people get mad

MCD · « **Reply #25 on:** February 29, 2012, 02:46:03 PM »

I could see myself loving this on a tablet and even on a desktop PC but a laptop with no mouse? Eww.

I never liked laptops anyway, good riddance.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #26 on:** February 29, 2012, 02:59:45 PM »

Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on February 29, 2012, 01:48:25 PM

Quote from: Van Cruncheon on February 29, 2012, 01:47:31 PM
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on February 29, 2012, 12:38:29 PM
From what I can tell, Windows 7 was the first OS MS has created that was pretty ok at launch. WHY ARE WE TEMPTING FATE HERE AND TRYING NEW SHIT? I guess I'm just a crotchety old man, but if it ain't broke don't fix it. Now you kids GET OFF MY FUCKING LAWN.

because the competition will eat us alive if we don't? crotchety people who don't spend money don't get to decide the market. :-(

It's exactly that sort of thinking that gave us Vista. VISTA!

actually, it's not. the sort of thinking that gave the world Vista is no longer at MS. ;-)

Momo · « **Reply #27 on:** February 29, 2012, 03:01:07 PM »

Anyone have an iso down and installed yet?

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #28 on:** February 29, 2012, 03:04:48 PM »

as someone who knows shit about VMs, any way to install this on my HDD and check it out without nuking my 7 install?

Reb · « **Reply #29 on:** February 29, 2012, 03:07:47 PM »

I'm installing it, no clue what it will do to my Win7 install.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #30 on:** February 29, 2012, 04:03:12 PM »

It's definitely deeper than the last release.

benjipwns · « **Reply #31 on:** February 29, 2012, 07:15:10 PM »

Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on February 29, 2012, 03:04:48 PM

as someone who knows shit about VMs, any way to install this on my HDD and check it out without nuking my 7 install?

If it's like the Dev Preview it'll let you make a new partition and stuff during install. If you want to be on the safe side before hand you can just split some free space into a new partition and make sure you install it to that.

It'll setup a boot loader to pick which OS to boot into on its own.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #32 on:** March 02, 2012, 02:50:29 AM »

PROTIP: When using the Metro style apps switcher (on the left edge) or the charms bar (on the right edge) with the mouse, instead of doing it in two discrete motions (move to top/bottom corner, then move down/up), try just swinging your mouse pointer around the corner in one fluid motion. With a bit of practice it becomes a lot faster and actually kinda fun and addictive (or maybe I'm a weirdo). I wish the animation for the charms bar appearing were faster though.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #33 on:** March 17, 2012, 09:20:48 PM »

btw, I'm using it on a trackpad and it works great for me, you just need to install the proper Synaptics drivers and CRANK UP THE MOUSE SPEED. which you should be doing anyway, as using a trackpad with default settings is painful even on Win7, I don't understand how anyone can possibly live with that

MCD · « **Reply #34 on:** March 17, 2012, 11:07:35 PM »

I just plugged a mouse. Much better.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #35 on:** March 17, 2012, 11:20:01 PM »

I get pinch to zoom on my trackpad, plus I can use the trackpad + reach the arrow keys and Enter all with one hand, which does a lot to alleviate the appbar being at the bottom of the screen - one of my remaining Win8 gripes - because as it turns out when you select a tile/item to activate the appbar, it's nice enough to automatically put the keyboard focus on the appbar (specifically the leftmost appbar button) without you having to tab down or anything obnoxious like that, which means in particular for appbar buttons in the lower left corner - which include "pin to/unpin from start" and "name group" - you can just right-click on item(s) -> hit Enter since they get focus by default instead of having to right-click -> move pointer down to appbar -> click. It makes managing your tiles super quick. Though this works on the start/search screen but unfortunately not (yet?) in apps I've tried =(

MCD · « **Reply #36 on:** March 17, 2012, 11:24:41 PM »

Feedback it.

Tasty · « **Reply #37 on:** March 18, 2012, 01:32:35 AM »

Quote from: MCD on February 09, 2012, 10:40:37 AM

What works on windows 7 will work here.

Unless you're on a tablet. Then you're screwed if you need any actual Windows programs except for Office, because nepotism.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #38 on:** March 18, 2012, 01:40:17 AM »

That is only the case with Windows-on-ARM (not all tablets are WoA. Also, not all WoA devices will be tablets.)

my Samsung S7 runs Win7 desktop apps just fine.

Tasty · « **Reply #39 on:** March 18, 2012, 01:41:59 AM »

Eh, semantics.

I'm not mad at MS about it either, it's just a no-win situation.

MCD · « **Reply #40 on:** March 18, 2012, 02:21:11 AM »

Yeah, this is ARM issue only. Besides, it's Windows which means:

DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS

MCD · « **Reply #41 on:** March 22, 2012, 12:38:09 AM »

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/03/21/scaling-to-different-screens.aspx

Retina ready.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #42 on:** March 29, 2012, 03:59:29 AM »

resolution looks like butt flaps on my 20" Mac, obviously I don't know what I'm doing.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #43 on:** March 30, 2012, 02:44:53 PM »

Every time I see this thing it looks like shit to me. I wasn't in the preview so can somebody explain to me why I should want this?

MCD · « **Reply #44 on:** March 30, 2012, 06:00:57 PM »

Because this is the future of Windows, like it or not.

D3RANG3D · « **Reply #45 on:** March 30, 2012, 06:04:05 PM »

Windows 8

Vizzys · « **Reply #46 on:** March 30, 2012, 06:07:30 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 30, 2012, 02:44:53 PM

Every time I see this thing it looks like shit to me. I wasn't in the preview so can somebody explain to me why I should want this?

-it boots up faster
-you can turn off the metro stuff
-its free on the internet

MCD · « **Reply #47 on:** March 30, 2012, 06:11:12 PM »

And you can always stick with the desktop mode anyway, which comes with many improvements: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_8

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #48 on:** March 30, 2012, 06:59:11 PM »

I personally like having both desktop + Metro style apps on my laptop because I tend to use my laptop both for casual screwing around and for more focused projects, and Metro style apps give me a nice way of screwing around without it interfering with my srs business project sessions (as they don't run in the background, don't have to close them, don't clutter up the taskbar and desktop window stack, installing them won't have side effects, etc.) Come to think of it, I sometimes browse etc. with my phone at the same time I'm working on my laptop for the same reason.

MCD · « **Reply #49 on:** April 17, 2012, 03:51:54 AM »

http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/b/bloggingwindows/archive/2012/04/16/announcing-the-windows-8-editions.aspx

3 versions: 2 retail SKU and one comes with ARM tablets only.

MCD · « **Reply #50 on:** May 31, 2012, 04:57:24 PM »

UPDATE: Release Preview (AKA Release Candidate) is out now:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/05/31/delivering-the-windows-8-release-preview.aspx
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/iso

choco parfait · « **Reply #51 on:** May 31, 2012, 08:41:58 PM »

The only issue I have is the desktop still being a neutered reminiscent of Win7. If MS was to go the whole way with this Metro look, why would they not update the desktop as well? As it is right now, it's really jarring to have Metro and then suddenly switch to a normal plain windows environment and have it look like the whole Metro thing was some lame OS theme mod.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #52 on:** May 31, 2012, 09:30:22 PM »

Quote

If MS was to go the whole way with this Metro look, why would they not update the desktop as well?

They are updating the desktop cosmetically, the changes won't be seen till the final build.
But they can't change the desktop too drastically because it needs to stay compatible with all the desktop apps that exist (and people's ways of working with them)

Anyway ...
Installed this (posting from it now)
I like it and like the changes from CP but am disappointed in that a bunch of things I was really hoping they'd change/fix weren't (no separate default apps for desktop & Metro style contexts, no multiselect-and-pin on Apps screen, no marquee select in Start screen, no Open File Location or any selection at all in Files search results screen). Kind of think there should have been another milestone before release. The CP felt more like an alpha than beta and this version feels more like a beta than RC. I suspect somewhat like Vista, people won't really get on board with this until there's been another release (i.e. Win9) to polish and improve a lot of things and add enough extra value that it's worth the bother of upgrading and adjusting to new ways of doing thigns.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #53 on:** May 31, 2012, 11:08:02 PM »

Here's a small novel on Windows 8

http://mobileopportunity.blogspot.com.au/2012/05/fear-and-loathing-and-windows-8.html

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #54 on:** May 31, 2012, 11:23:33 PM »

A lot of things in that article are factually wrong, though maybe that's the point I guess.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #55 on:** May 31, 2012, 11:45:51 PM »

It's pretty obvious that he's got an agenda going in as well.

MCD · « **Reply #56 on:** June 01, 2012, 12:33:05 AM »

For himu:

MS finally fixed the "Copy" function in IE10 right click context menu. Meaning you can finally use it with image files.

And built in Adobe Flash rocks.

Mupepe · « **Reply #57 on:** June 01, 2012, 10:18:00 AM »

Windows 8 is pretty damn awesome

MCD · « **Reply #58 on:** June 02, 2012, 11:33:15 PM »

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #59 on:** June 02, 2012, 11:37:45 PM »

Quote from: MCD on June 01, 2012, 12:33:05 AM

And built in Adobe Flash rocks.

lol

News:

Author Topic: Windows 8 Release Preview (Read 5785 times)