Author Topic: The Last Story (Coming to NA) (Read 3363 times)

demi · « **on:** February 19, 2012, 08:56:23 PM »

So... I'm pretty hype for this. I hear it's not Xenoblade, which was pretty fucking awesome. But I feel like this could be just as good.

Comes out this week, import/internet store exclusive.

Himu · « **Reply #1 on:** February 19, 2012, 08:57:46 PM »

PUMP.

Gimme full details, demi-chan.

Tasty · « **Reply #2 on:** February 19, 2012, 09:01:51 PM »

Oscar said it wasn't any good.

magus · « **Reply #3 on:** February 19, 2012, 09:01:58 PM »

i've already played 2 not-so good mistwalker game and my wii is currently plugged off and i still have to bitch about FF13-2

so i'll pass

Himu · « **Reply #4 on:** February 19, 2012, 09:24:06 PM »

Magus doesn't like blue dragon and lost odyssey? Why am I not surprised

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #5 on:** February 19, 2012, 11:14:02 PM »

I heard it was a DudeBro-Gears Of War version of Final Fantasy as seen through Gooch's eyes.

Bebpo · « **Reply #6 on:** February 20, 2012, 03:08:48 AM »

It's kind of bad. Playable and sort of fun for the short length but terrible story, shallow combat, super linear corridor slasher and really short with AI/camera/control problems. It's not terrible, but it's like totally 6.5/10 and the bad guy looks like Ganon.

iconoclast · « **Reply #7 on:** February 20, 2012, 04:59:32 AM »

Can you use the classic controller? I'll give it a shot if it runs well on Dolphin.

demi · « **Reply #8 on:** February 22, 2012, 09:55:36 AM »

XSEED bringing it over

cool breeze · « **Reply #9 on:** February 22, 2012, 10:58:45 AM »

Xseed means it's not exclusively sold by Gamestop or Nintendo, right?

demi · « **Reply #10 on:** February 22, 2012, 12:31:38 PM »

Well it's up to the retailers to buy the product. And XSEED is pretty niche as is. So you'll probably only find it at GameStop. But you wil be able to buy it at Amazon. lol

demi · « **Reply #11 on:** February 23, 2012, 08:52:08 AM »

I got it last night... will start playing after work.

demi · « **Reply #12 on:** February 24, 2012, 09:25:15 PM »

This game's battle, upgrade, and everything system is hella confusing...

Right now I'd easily pick Xenoblade

MCD · « **Reply #13 on:** February 25, 2012, 06:51:10 AM »

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=35456812&postcount=7525

SantaC · « **Reply #14 on:** February 25, 2012, 10:08:23 AM »

Quote from: demi on February 24, 2012, 09:25:15 PM

This game's battle, upgrade, and everything system is hella confusing...

Right now I'd easily pick Xenoblade

yeah, i am not feeling this game so far. I am still very early though.

demi · « **Reply #15 on:** February 25, 2012, 11:21:43 AM »

This game is really easy. I'm just grinding one spot, and the game just lets you keep doing this over and over. I think I'm playing the game wrong.

Bebpo · « **Reply #16 on:** February 25, 2012, 12:40:43 PM »

No, it's just really easy

demi · « **Reply #17 on:** February 25, 2012, 02:11:44 PM »

How many chapters?

Bebpo · « **Reply #18 on:** February 25, 2012, 04:04:59 PM »

Don't remember. Game is about 10-20 hours long.

demi · « **Reply #19 on:** February 25, 2012, 04:07:12 PM »

Well... nothing's exactly happened yet, and I'm around Chapter 17 or so. Just got beat to shit in the trial.

Bebpo · « **Reply #20 on:** February 25, 2012, 05:59:13 PM »

Just checked.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

40 chapters

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Though about 10 can be missed. I'd recommend using a faq tbh. The game has tons of stuff you can miss with short windows to activate them.

demi · « **Reply #21 on:** February 25, 2012, 06:00:11 PM »

Meh, this game hasnt been interesting enough to harbor interest in sidequests. You guys had it right, this is a bit of a stinker.

Bebpo · « **Reply #22 on:** February 25, 2012, 06:19:39 PM »

Yeah, I didn't bother with most of the sidequests.

Trent Dole · « **Reply #23 on:** February 25, 2012, 06:56:00 PM »

So wait for the TheBlackStallion is hysterical firesale on this one, got it.
lol, quite the word filter for shizbin.

demi · « **Reply #24 on:** February 25, 2012, 07:21:39 PM »

Xenoblade is definately better... I cant even think of any thing to convince someone to try this. It's just very bland.

demi · « **Reply #25 on:** February 25, 2012, 07:31:36 PM »

Arc Rise Fantasia is better

magus · « **Reply #26 on:** February 25, 2012, 07:33:23 PM »

Quote from: demi on February 25, 2012, 07:31:36 PM

Arc Rise Fantasia is better

arc rise fantasia is better than xenoblade too

demi · « **Reply #27 on:** February 25, 2012, 07:57:31 PM »

Disagree, but considering its competition (re: none), Arc Rise would be easily at the top

magus · « **Reply #28 on:** February 25, 2012, 07:59:23 PM »

Quote from: demi on February 25, 2012, 07:57:31 PM

Disagree, but considering its competition (re: none), Arc Rise would be easily at the top

chocobo mysterious dungeon is clearly the best wii rpg

Tasty · « **Reply #29 on:** February 25, 2012, 08:35:52 PM »

u guys are all wrong crystal bearers fo sho

demi · « **Reply #30 on:** February 25, 2012, 08:45:29 PM »

Crystal Bearers isn't an RPG unfortunately, you could go rank it with the other action games though

Bebpo · « **Reply #31 on:** February 25, 2012, 09:19:23 PM »

I still haven't played ARF past the intro...

demi · « **Reply #32 on:** February 25, 2012, 09:41:29 PM »

It's pretty good. And you can even use a Gamecube controller with it. Makes it feel like a Gamecube RPG.

Tasty · « **Reply #33 on:** February 25, 2012, 09:47:36 PM »

Quote from: demi on February 25, 2012, 08:45:29 PM

Crystal Bearers isn't an RPG unfortunately, you could go rank it with the other action games though

Just in general how would it compare with TLS, Xeno, and ARF?

demi · « **Reply #34 on:** February 25, 2012, 10:02:54 PM »

Pretty low since it's not really an RPG

demi · « **Reply #35 on:** February 26, 2012, 12:17:33 AM »

Jesus this game turns into a 5 frame slideshow.

demi · « **Reply #36 on:** February 26, 2012, 08:51:54 PM »

Last boss is complete dogshit.

Everything runs in sub-10 frames, shit's exploding everywhere, people dying, I have no idea what the fuck is going on.

Huff · « **Reply #37 on:** February 26, 2012, 09:20:01 PM »

This thread is just disappointing. Rent or just not bother?

demi · « **Reply #38 on:** February 26, 2012, 09:25:24 PM »

Once you play Xenoblade you wont want to bother.

demi · « **Reply #39 on:** February 26, 2012, 10:50:38 PM »

There, all done. I appreciate that they let you do a couple quests after the game to "wrap up" some stuff.

Still. Very disappointed. Buy Xenoblade

Bebpo · « **Reply #40 on:** February 27, 2012, 02:42:48 AM »

Quote from: demi on February 26, 2012, 10:50:38 PM

There, all done. I appreciate that they let you do a couple quests after the game to "wrap up" some stuff.

Still. Very disappointed. Buy Xenoblade

Yeah, but then Mistwalker has been hit or miss for a few years now, so it wasn't that unexpected. I do wonder if it'll be sakaguchi's last game. If so, what a weak forgettable game to go out on.

I don't think going for a gears of war style arcade-y rpg was a bad idea. It just needed a lot of work and definitely needed a way better story and characters.

MCD · « **Reply #41 on:** February 27, 2012, 04:55:30 AM »

The Last Shit.

SantaC · « **Reply #42 on:** February 27, 2012, 02:12:23 PM »

yeah this game wasn't good at all. It shows that monolith soft are on another level than mistwalker.

demi · « **Reply #43 on:** February 27, 2012, 02:35:43 PM »

I enjoyed BD and LO, but that's because I can tolerate more traditional systems. This was just a big clusterfuck of what and wrong.

SantaC · « **Reply #44 on:** February 27, 2012, 02:48:00 PM »

Quote from: demi on February 27, 2012, 02:35:43 PM

I enjoyed BD and LO, but that's because I can tolerate more traditional systems. This was just a big clusterfuck of what and wrong.

LO was pretty good except it was fuck slow and the whiny brats took up too much space in the story.

Bebpo · « **Reply #45 on:** February 27, 2012, 03:50:13 PM »

BD and LO also had a thing called budget.

Games on Wii don't get that!

demi · « **Reply #46 on:** February 27, 2012, 03:59:25 PM »

True enough, but I thought this was funded by Nintendo. The same Nintendo that pooped out Xenoblade.

SantaC · « **Reply #47 on:** February 27, 2012, 04:54:06 PM »

no expenses spared on xenoblade for sure.

magus · « **Reply #48 on:** February 27, 2012, 04:57:43 PM »

Quote from: SantaC on February 27, 2012, 04:54:06 PM

no expenses spared on xenoblade for sure.

yeah it's not like the game reuses a lot of monster and equipment models amirite?

SantaC · « **Reply #49 on:** February 27, 2012, 05:01:37 PM »

Quote from: magus on February 27, 2012, 04:57:43 PM

Quote from: SantaC on February 27, 2012, 04:54:06 PM
no expenses spared on xenoblade for sure.

yeah it's not like the game reuses a lot of monster and equipment models amirite?

it's one of those rare rpgs were changing clothes in menu actually changes in the game.

wrowa · « **Reply #50 on:** March 01, 2012, 09:28:17 PM »

The people on the market place are totally talking Japanese. Since everything else is dubbed I'm not sure if this is an oversight, or if Nintendo just didn't give a fuck.

SantaC · « **Reply #51 on:** March 02, 2012, 04:29:52 PM »

so gaf loves this game but hate on ffx13-2

their shit taste never cease to amaze.

wrowa · « **Reply #52 on:** March 07, 2012, 07:20:05 PM »

Quote from: demi on February 26, 2012, 08:51:54 PM

Last boss is complete dogshit.

Everything runs in sub-10 frames, shit's exploding everywhere, people dying, I have no idea what the fuck is going on.

Strangely I didn't encounter any framerate problems during that paricular boss, but yeah he's an ass. For all the wrong reasons.

The last boss isn't difficult, but what makes him frustrating is that surviving becomes more or less a matter of luck. You don't have enough power to prevent your party from dying (you can give them orders sometime, but in that particular fight that's not really enough) and the boss gives you not only a pretty long fight but can als one hit kill you if you are unlucky. Really annoying.

Up to this fight the 5-live system of Last Story made the game rather easy most of the time. During the last boss however it becomes simply frustrating. Stupid.

I actually used an ocarina cheat for infinite lives at this point, because after dying three or four times at the end of the battle I simply lacked the motivation to go one. That cheat made it easy, obviously but... afterwards something awkward happened.

After I've completed the last side quests and have seen the credits, I wanted to give the online mode a shot. Let me tell you one thing: If your party is online getting hammered by a 99 boss and you suddenly realize that you aren't losing any lives when dying because you forgot to disable that stupid cheat... Makes you feel like scumm, man!

Bebpo · « **Reply #53 on:** March 07, 2012, 07:33:38 PM »

Quote from: SantaC on March 02, 2012, 04:29:52 PM

so gaf loves this game but hate on ffx13-2

their shit taste never cease to amaze.

It's on a nintendo system, of course gaf loves it. Anyone still owning a wii over there probably thinks ever new wii game is pure gold.

Tasty · « **Reply #54 on:** March 07, 2012, 07:50:49 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on March 07, 2012, 07:33:38 PM

Quote from: SantaC on March 02, 2012, 04:29:52 PM
so gaf loves this game but hate on ffx13-2

their shit taste never cease to amaze.

It's on a nintendo system, of course gaf loves it. Anyone still owning a wii over there probably thinks ever new wii game is pure gold.

I like how you

A) Lump all of GAF into the sliver of people who still actually remember they have a Wii
B) Lump all those people into an even smaller fraction of people who actually like this game considering
C) Everyone in that group will admit Xenoblade is far better anyways

But sure. Keep generalizing.

wrowa · « **Reply #55 on:** March 07, 2012, 07:59:37 PM »

"GAF" doesn't even love Last Story. The impressions are pretty mixed over there.

It's quite ironic that Bebpo of all people is complaining though, since he rated the game pretty good in his own review, lol.

Bebpo · « **Reply #56 on:** March 07, 2012, 08:09:20 PM »

I didn't rate it pretty good, I rated it ok and flawed. There's a difference!

Plus I use the IGN scale. 7-10 only. A-C if in letter form.

Anyhow, I just like lumping all the ntards together.

wrowa · « **Reply #57 on:** March 07, 2012, 08:15:43 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on March 07, 2012, 08:09:20 PM

I didn't rate it pretty good, I rated it ok and flawed. There's a difference! :lol Plus I use the IGN scale. 7-10 only. A-C if in letter form.

Anyhow, I just like lumping all the ntards together.

You are pretty bad at rating things if an 8/10 is "ok and flawed" :P

Anyhow, I think Last Story is a game that is captured in an awkward sport between good ideas and a sub-par execution of these ideas. I can understand why some people strongly dislike it, while other are really enjoying it. Don't see a reason to ridicule anyone for his opinion on this particular game.

Personally, I think it was an enjoyable ride. There's nothing in this game that actually shines and even though it barely scratches its potential in most areas, it was still good enough to grab my attention until the very end. I'm glad that it's not any longer, though.

I hope that there'll be a sequel. If Sakaguchi learns from Last Story's mistakes, a sequel could become a pretty damn good game.

And for what it's worth, it made me interested in finally giving Lost Odyssey a chance. I've heard that it was plagued by really long loading times upon its release; is there a way to fix this? Has there been a patch since then or is installing the game a solution? Long loading times are my kryptonite nowadays.

demi · « **Reply #58 on:** March 07, 2012, 08:28:10 PM »

The point is, Xenoblade takes a doodoo on it, and you can't use the argument "they're different games" cause it doesn't even matter if they were.

wrowa · « **Reply #59 on:** March 07, 2012, 08:33:54 PM »

Quote from: demi on March 07, 2012, 08:28:10 PM

The point is, Xenoblade takes a doodoo on it, and you can't use the argument "they're different games" cause it doesn't even matter if they were.

I don't see how that point matters at all, honestly. I've put more than 100 hours into Xenoblade and yes, it's a better game in pretty much every regard. But how does that matter? Even Xenoblade ends at some point and I still want to play something afterwards. If I stop enjoying games that aren't as good as other games I've already played I wouldn't be able to enjoy a single game anymore nowadays.

I mean, sure, if the only thing you are interested in is that people will choose Xenoblade over Last Story when the games are getting released in the US I can see where you are coming from. Apart of that I fail to see how a better game makes another game worse all of a sudden.

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