Author Topic: MAD MEN SEASON 5: BRING ON THE COCKTAILS (Read 10228 times)

Himu · « **Reply #180 on:** May 28, 2012, 02:56:04 PM »

haven't watched it yet

etiolate · « **Reply #181 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:34:40 PM »

So how do you think

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they'll keep Peggy a part of the show?

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ZephyrFate · « **Reply #182 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:51:38 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on May 28, 2012, 02:46:48 PM

Everyone talking about GoT and not this Mad Men episode. Bah.

yeah this was better than "Blackwater". Just on a completely different emotional level. Goddamn.

Robo · « **Reply #183 on:** May 29, 2012, 11:28:48 AM »

Regarding Peggy's salary...

pilonv1 · « **Reply #184 on:** May 30, 2012, 07:50:01 AM »

Quote from: etiolate on May 28, 2012, 03:38:38 AM

Pete just won back all his douche cred with that one.

"I've lost all my energy putting my foot down."

Quote from: etiolate on May 28, 2012, 09:34:40 PM

So how do you think
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they'll keep Peggy a part of the show?
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Either the writers at Sterling Cooper Draper Price will be complete fuck ups with out Peggy, or they'll end up competing for clients and Peggy will start to one up them.

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Fifstar · « **Reply #185 on:** May 31, 2012, 01:28:26 PM »

What an episode. Allthough I didn't quite get why Jaguar was so important that they gave Joan a 5% stake in the company. Wouldn't the 50 000$, that originaly were in the discussion be much less worth then that?

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #186 on:** May 31, 2012, 02:46:34 PM »

I'm not quite sure either, but Weiner really tried to drive it home. Bert even said, "You can't put a price on a car." Joan just got as much as possible out of the deal.

Beezy · « **Reply #187 on:** May 31, 2012, 04:20:53 PM »

It just seemed like once you landed a car, you officially made it big.

Fifstar · « **Reply #188 on:** May 31, 2012, 04:39:18 PM »

It felt weird, especially because Joan was coming from a weak position, with her only recent return to the agency and the child she has to provide for. And there was no additional talk about it between the partners that would have explained it, doesn't seem like something they wouldhave decided in a heartbeat.

Barry Egan · « **Reply #189 on:** May 31, 2012, 06:32:00 PM »

Joan was coming from a strong position. She determined the future of the company, and it's something she has to keep her mouth shut about. Her stake in the company insures that she stays quiet. You also have to consider that the SCDP boys will be feeling enormously guilty whether they realize it or not. It works for me.

Robo · « **Reply #190 on:** May 31, 2012, 06:37:32 PM »

Curious how the thing with Pryce is going to end. I don't want to see him leave the show, but it sure does seem to be heading in that direction.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #191 on:** May 31, 2012, 07:58:56 PM »

Quote from: Fifstar on May 31, 2012, 01:28:26 PM

What an episode. Allthough I didn't quite get why Jaguar was so important that they gave Joan a 5% stake in the company. Wouldn't the 50 000$, that originaly were in the discussion be much less worth then that?

Pryce raised the partnership because he didn't have the 50k available because he'd already used it, so it was partly to save him from the rest of them discovering his embezzlement. Plus I think he was the only one other than Don who was somewhat morally against it and thought she should at least get the most out of it she could.

One thing that annoys me that I may be remembering incorrectly, wasn't there an episode where Pryce's wife was talking about how much she hated New York and they wanted to move back? And I think it was a different actress.

Pretty sad there's only two episodes left this season

Fifstar · « **Reply #192 on:** June 01, 2012, 08:24:52 AM »

Yeah, for Pryce it definetly made sense. Campbell wanted it the most and I guess Sterling and Cooper are already rich.

Pryce wife confused me as well. Was that his wife in the last episode? I thought he maybe got another girlfriend because the actress seemed different.

I'm wondering what they are going to do with Don in the season (which is the last season, isn't it?). He's already pretty weak this season (no motivation for his work, Peggy becoming independent, apparently no more big ideas for work, Megan is much more independent then Betty). I guess they could let him fall deeper if his relationship doesn't work out (either because he cheats on Megan or because she cheats on him/finally gets to be an actress) or the company gets in trouble without Peggy creative work.

etiolate · « **Reply #193 on:** June 02, 2012, 09:38:15 PM »

I think Peggy might actually discover her job is harder without Don giving those convincing speeches to the client. Her ideas are good, but she still has the issue of being a girl and that she's not as smooth as Don is at selling the pitch.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #194 on:** June 02, 2012, 11:21:56 PM »

Quote from: etiolate on June 02, 2012, 09:38:15 PM

I think Peggy might actually discover her job is harder without Don giving those convincing speeches to the client. Her ideas are good, but she still has the issue of being a girl and that she's not as smooth as Don is at selling the pitch.

"ooooh lala" sounds like you're selling the pitch.

Peggy is a smart little whip. She can learn how to sell herself, I think she's dynamic enough to work with people who aren't familiar with her personality and creative process. Plus you're forgetting that her new employer really wants to piss off Draper. He'll want to work with Peggy to steal as many accounts as possible.

She just needs to stop giving random handjobs in movie theaters.

etiolate · « **Reply #195 on:** June 03, 2012, 12:28:59 AM »

Don't you dare try to keep Peggy from her vag-swag. It'll be handjobs for strangers or nothing else!

Beezy · « **Reply #196 on:** June 04, 2012, 01:11:12 AM »

Himu · « **Reply #197 on:** June 04, 2012, 01:11:42 AM »

HOLY SHIT

etiolate · « **Reply #198 on:** June 04, 2012, 02:58:37 AM »

man oh man

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I knew from the events that Lane was doomed, but the Jaguar not starting still made me laugh. I thought he was going out the window, but the hanging ended up being more grim. It's interesting to see how Don's office has become the place where people helplessly beg. The aggressive Don turned colored the whole death of Lane, and made the final scene awesome. Mad Men loves those final shots of people just staring forward with some emotional turn on their face.

I guess the Sally plotline was there just to lighten the mood in some way. I thought it would end up in a weird place, but her and creepy just acted like pals on a day out.

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Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #199 on:** June 04, 2012, 01:21:46 PM »

Screw spoiler tags.

I really thought Pete was going to be the one to die this season, but now with Lane gone, I don't see that happening.

Also, do you think we've seen the last of Peggy this season (ie. won't see her in the season finale, but probably back next season)?

etiolate · « **Reply #200 on:** June 04, 2012, 09:11:01 PM »

From interview:

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When they literally pushed through that door and saw me hanging, that was the first time they had seen it. They didn't see a rehearsal or anything like that. That was their first look at it, and that was pretty genuine shock on all their faces. They knew, of course, because they had read the script, but those guys did a brilliant job, the makeup department. And they hadn't seen that.

http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/interview-mad-men-co-star-jared-harris-on-lane-pryce-and-commissions-and-fees

Robo · « **Reply #201 on:** June 04, 2012, 10:31:54 PM »

Quote from: Robo on May 31, 2012, 06:37:32 PM

Curious how the thing with Pryce is going to end. I don't want to see him leave the show, but it sure does seem to be heading in that direction.

Well then!

etiolate · « **Reply #202 on:** June 04, 2012, 10:34:18 PM »

I guess you were hoping that he'd be hanging around?

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #203 on:** June 05, 2012, 01:26:21 AM »

I'm surprised they went ahead and showed the body hanging there, although I guess maybe I shouldn't have been. Grim stuff.

On a lighter note, Matthew Weiner's son continues to get creepier with that mustache.

Beezy · « **Reply #204 on:** June 05, 2012, 01:52:41 AM »

Leave Glenn alone

chronovore · « **Reply #205 on:** June 06, 2012, 09:05:57 AM »

Quote from: etiolate on June 04, 2012, 10:34:18 PM

I guess you were hoping that he'd be hanging around?

Fifstar · « **Reply #206 on:** June 06, 2012, 11:15:33 AM »

Goddamn, last two episodes felt like a season's final. Wonder what they have in store for the last show..

pilonv1 · « **Reply #207 on:** June 11, 2012, 06:35:45 AM »

No spoiler tags, season is over lets get down to business

Quote from: Fifstar on June 06, 2012, 11:15:33 AM

Goddamn, last two episodes felt like a season's final. Wonder what they have in store for the last show..

Not much sadly. Just basically setting up next seasons storylines.

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on June 04, 2012, 01:21:46 PM

I really thought Pete was going to be the one to die this season, but now with Lane gone, I don't see that happening.

I thought so too. If it hadn't been for Lane last episode I'd have been sure Pete would off himself at the end of this episode. I do love when Pete stops being the smooth talker and just blurts out what is on his mind. Loved when he said the pool looked very permanent too.

Anyway I'll be really disappointed if they turn Don back into the typical cheating husband next season.

Fifstar · « **Reply #208 on:** June 11, 2012, 04:44:53 PM »

At the end montage with the fucking dogs.

Weiner really seems to like see Campbell suffer. That was cruel (again),

And yeah, I also hope they don't turn Don back into the cheating husband. It's a possibilty though, as that would mean to break him down completly.

Himu · « **Reply #209 on:** June 11, 2012, 04:50:00 PM »

THIS WAS THE BEST SEASON OF MAD MEN.

Himu · « **Reply #210 on:** June 11, 2012, 04:53:02 PM »

Quote from: Fifstar on June 11, 2012, 04:44:53 PM

At the end montage with the fucking dogs.

Weiner really seems to like see Campbell suffer. That was cruel (again),

And yeah, I also hope they don't turn Don back into the cheating husband. It's a possibilty though, as that would mean to break him down completly.

Think Megan is Don's temporary bandage on a permanent wound? I like how they left it open-ended. This could very well have been a series finale, I think and people would go ape shit because of the last scene.

Also, that blonde looks like Megan's friend.

etiolate · « **Reply #211 on:** June 11, 2012, 04:54:38 PM »

If Don does cheat, it would be an interesting reveal of his psyche. Someone suggested that Don actually doesn't want the typical American housewife. He's attracted to women with a life of their own and a job and work they do. Betty was a working model when he met her. There was the artist chick. Then there was the department store owner gal. Of course, Faye is the ultimate of this type. And Megan made him happiest when she was showing her skills in advertising, and he seemed to go along with her acting as long as there was some real hope to it. Now, her mother tells Don that he has to take care of Megan, and so Don gets her the job. So, if that makes Megan less autonomous and if Don turns to cheating then it may be that he actually needs an independent woman to be satisfied.

Robo · « **Reply #212 on:** June 11, 2012, 08:32:39 PM »

Pete Campbell's poor hairline. He might yet commit suicide.

Barry Egan · « **Reply #213 on:** June 12, 2012, 12:05:12 AM »

Naked scalp will not be a good look for him $:-\$

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #214 on:** June 12, 2012, 12:17:40 AM »

Bring back Rachel Menken.

ZephyrFate · « **Reply #215 on:** June 12, 2012, 12:27:16 AM »

Not happening. The actress is playing a main character in Sons of Anarchy.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #216 on:** June 12, 2012, 12:32:23 AM »

Quote from: ZephyrFate on June 12, 2012, 12:27:16 AM

Not happening. The actress is playing a main character in Sons of Anarchy.

Quiet you.

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They won't bring her back, but she is my favorite of Don's women.

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Himu · « **Reply #217 on:** June 12, 2012, 12:51:26 AM »

Why the fuck is Dish getting rid of AMC?

Fifstar · « **Reply #218 on:** June 12, 2012, 03:01:09 AM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on June 11, 2012, 04:53:02 PM

Think Megan is Don's temporary bandage on a permanent wound?

Quote from: etiolate on June 11, 2012, 04:54:38 PM

If Don does cheat, it would be an interesting reveal of his psyche. Someone suggested that Don actually doesn't want the typical American housewife. He's attracted to women with a life of their own and a job and work they do. Betty was a working model when he met her. There was the artist chick. Then there was the department store owner gal. Of course, Faye is the ultimate of this type. And Megan made him happiest when she was showing her skills in advertising, and he seemed to go along with her acting as long as there was some real hope to it. Now, her mother tells Don that he has to take care of Megan, and so Don gets her the job. So, if that makes Megan less autonomous and if Don turns to cheating then it may be that he actually needs an independent woman to be satisfied.

We all have this western notion of the perfect love and I think the audience of Mad Men wants Don to find his, because ultimately he never seemed truely happy save for his honeymoon phase with Megan. I belive he can't be happy with the American housewife and so the question is if he needs a strong woman like Faye or if he's just not able to be happy with a woman for an extended time. Him needing a strong woman would be the most romantic idea and would sorta allow us to 'forgive' Don all his cheating (to a certain degree, most of the audience wants to see Don 'succeed' not only in his business life bot also his love life), because it would explain why he cheated on Betty all the time. It would make him too perfect however which is imo the reason why Weiner let Draper ultimately treat Faye only like a trophy he wanted to get.

ZephyrFate · « **Reply #219 on:** June 12, 2012, 05:50:24 AM »

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on June 12, 2012, 12:32:23 AM

Quote from: ZephyrFate on June 12, 2012, 12:27:16 AM
Not happening. The actress is playing a main character in Sons of Anarchy.

Quiet you.

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They won't bring her back, but she is my favorite of Don's women.
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They won't bring her back because that show demands her basically full-time. And Don doesn't deserve her anyway.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #220 on:** April 09, 2013, 08:18:29 AM »

Where's the season six talk ladies?

Himu · « **Reply #221 on:** April 09, 2013, 09:11:50 AM »

Haven't watched it yet.

Barry Egan · « **Reply #222 on:** April 09, 2013, 09:31:48 AM »

after rewatching season 5, the way people casually talk with one another in season 6 is kind of shocking. Someone I was watching with thought it was a dip in the quality of writing, but he didn't know what he was talking about. They did a really effective job of showing how quickly things changed in the late 60s.

Himu · « **Reply #223 on:** April 09, 2013, 09:36:32 AM »

I don't love you Biz.

Himu · « **Reply #224 on:** April 09, 2013, 09:48:03 AM »

Look at that face.

LOOK AT IT. Don't you just want to hug him? No? I'll hug you instead

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