Author Topic: ALL ABOARD THE VICSTARTER! TOOT TOOT (Read 5260 times)

Howard Alan Treesong · « **on:** March 27, 2012, 09:34:04 PM »

http://kotaku.com/5896727/these-guys-want-half-a-million-to-prove-that-people-still-love-jrpgs

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1272149684/class-of-heroes-2-deluxe-for-the-psp-system

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #1 on:** March 27, 2012, 09:37:07 PM »

"These guys want half a million to prove that people still love [getting lots of useless junk with their] jrpgs."

Positive Touch · « **Reply #2 on:** March 27, 2012, 09:41:55 PM »

to be released in 2022

the DEFINITIVE DELUXE PREMIUM VERSION of a game absolutely no one gives a shit about

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #3 on:** March 27, 2012, 09:46:29 PM »

Anybody want my Growlanser watch and pendant?

spoiler (click to show/hide)

j/k, you'll have to pry them from my cold dead hands

[close]

Momo · « **Reply #4 on:** March 27, 2012, 09:56:53 PM »

Class of Heroes 2. Yeah .. no.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #5 on:** March 27, 2012, 10:01:12 PM »

I imagine bebpo is in for x, where is x is all the money he has access to.

Trent Dole · « **Reply #6 on:** March 27, 2012, 10:33:05 PM »

Victor is why we don't have a Lunar 3. Fuck him.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #7 on:** March 27, 2012, 10:34:37 PM »

If this gets me the PS3 game on a Blu-ray disc, I'm interested.

If it's DD only, blahrg.

tiesto · « **Reply #8 on:** March 27, 2012, 10:51:39 PM »

I could think of a million other PSP RPGs I'd rather have in America than this one. Starting with Tengai Makyo: The Apocalypse IV PSP edition, 7th Dragon 2020, Frontier Gate, and Valkyria 3.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #9 on:** March 27, 2012, 11:38:58 PM »

Yeah, but they'd have to be able to legally acquire the license for those games first. I'm guessing this one was easier to get.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #10 on:** March 27, 2012, 11:49:55 PM »

Quote from: tiesto on March 27, 2012, 10:51:39 PM

I could think of a million other PSP RPGs I'd rather have in America than this one. Starting with Tengai Makyo: The Apocalypse IV PSP edition, 7th Dragon 2020, Frontier Gate, and Valkyria 3.

Just think, though, if you and all your friend throw in as much money as possible, then maybe, just maybe, you WILL get those games!

Momo · « **Reply #11 on:** March 28, 2012, 01:07:08 AM »

Quote from: Trent Dole on March 27, 2012, 10:33:05 PM

Victor is why we don't have a Lunar 3. Fuck him.

Leper Vic Ireland
Leper his kids
Leper his family
Leper all Irelands

Momo · « **Reply #12 on:** March 28, 2012, 01:17:56 AM »

Leper Trent

cool breeze · « **Reply #13 on:** March 28, 2012, 01:20:07 AM »

will this lead to a Conception kickstarter?

magus · « **Reply #14 on:** March 28, 2012, 06:00:35 AM »

i guess this is a good time to mention this is getting a fantranslation that's supposedly almost done

magus · « **Reply #15 on:** March 28, 2012, 06:45:55 AM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 28, 2012, 06:40:28 AM

too bad it's shitty

that video makes it looks like something i would dig... care to tell me more stranger?

Momo · « **Reply #16 on:** March 28, 2012, 07:06:43 AM »

too bad it's not Phantasy Star Generation

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #17 on:** March 28, 2012, 09:49:10 AM »

Up to $5000, another Kickstarter triumph.

demi · « **Reply #18 on:** March 28, 2012, 09:50:03 AM »

I might do it for the allure of having one of only SEVEN THOUSAND copies of the deluxe edition of CLASS OF HEROES 2

Momo · « **Reply #19 on:** March 28, 2012, 09:56:08 AM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov® EDGE™ on March 28, 2012, 09:49:10 AM

Up to $5000, another Kickstarter triumph.

Link to the starter? i cant be arsed to browse for it

Timber · « **Reply #20 on:** March 28, 2012, 10:35:14 AM »

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1272149684/class-of-heroes-2-deluxe-for-the-psp-system

It is the most misguided thing.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #21 on:** March 28, 2012, 10:39:23 AM »

No way do they get anywhere near 500k.

Momo · « **Reply #22 on:** March 28, 2012, 10:40:05 AM »

So everyone under $59 dollars are basically throwing their money away for shits and giggles and $60 and up buys you a pre-order of a psp game no one really wants.

right.

good idea

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #23 on:** March 28, 2012, 10:52:08 AM »

But think of all the wonderful collectible items you'll receive!

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #24 on:** March 28, 2012, 10:53:01 AM »

$60 minimum for a shitty JRPG, with INSANELY higher tiers for no real reward? More money gets you ... a higher position in the credits?

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #25 on:** March 28, 2012, 10:59:19 AM »

I really don't understand why they're not just funding the localization of a game that people are actually interested in, instead of a pointless deluxe edition of a game no one cares about. They'd need far less money [presumably] and something like that would actually have a chance of success.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #26 on:** March 28, 2012, 11:01:54 AM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 28, 2012, 10:59:19 AM

I really don't understand why they're not just funding the localization of a game that people are actually interested in, instead of a pointless deluxe edition of a game no one cares about. They'd need far less money [presumably] and something like that would actually have a chance of success.

Because Vic Ireland, that's why.

demi · « **Reply #27 on:** March 28, 2012, 11:16:39 AM »

lol, the game is coming out anyway apparently, so I'm kinda like "ok... why would i want to kickstarter this."

And if i have a Vita i have no choice but to wait anyway since a physical disc does me jack shit

Wasteland 2 makes more sense. Double Fine Adventure makes sense. This not so much

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #28 on:** March 28, 2012, 11:51:13 AM »

Quote from: demi on March 28, 2012, 11:16:39 AM

lol, the game is coming out anyway apparently, so I'm kinda like "ok... why would i want to kickstarter this."

Because you get a...

Quote

Custom gold-sealed letters acknowledging pledged hardcore JRPG support from Victor Ireland

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #29 on:** March 28, 2012, 11:56:42 AM »

Momo · « **Reply #30 on:** March 28, 2012, 11:59:27 AM »

game changer right there

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #31 on:** March 28, 2012, 01:22:05 PM »

I notice in the GAF thread that Vic is bagging on Game Arts for not being able to make another Lunar game these days, which is PRETTY NERVY

Trent Dole · « **Reply #32 on:** March 28, 2012, 01:26:52 PM »

Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on March 28, 2012, 01:22:05 PM

I notice in the GAF thread that Vic is bagging on Game Arts for not being able to make another Lunar game these days, which is PRETTY NERVY

REALLY? He'd stated before that after WD dissolved and he lost the Lunar license part of the terms was he couldn't say shit about the series.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #33 on:** March 28, 2012, 01:34:00 PM »

He said, "It's not to say Game Arts can't do games, it's just that with all the behind the scenes (and some on the stage) drama, a true LUNAR is unlikely. They're just not the same Game Arts as LUNAR days, and key partners in the process are sued into oblivion (Studio Alex) or pissed off."

Trent Dole · « **Reply #34 on:** March 28, 2012, 01:46:54 PM »

Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on March 28, 2012, 01:34:00 PM

He said, "It's not to say Game Arts can't do games, it's just that with all the behind the scenes (and some on the stage) drama, a true LUNAR is unlikely. They're just not the same Game Arts as LUNAR days, and key partners in the process are sued into oblivion (Studio Alex) or pissed off."

Oh, well that's just the sad truth of the matter I suppose.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #35 on:** March 28, 2012, 01:54:15 PM »

Ugh. Moe blobs

instead of "The Last Ranker" or "Valkyria Chronicles 3..."

Man, Victor should be doing this on PSN (instead of HURP DERP PHYSICAL) because PSP games can be ran on the Vita. Now is the perfect time to strike on putting JRPG's up on Vita before that gets more games that people overlook the PSP back catalog.

bork · « **Reply #36 on:** March 28, 2012, 02:06:12 PM »

What Victor Ireland and Working Designs did in the early-mid 1990s made sense when nobody else was localizing JRPGs and people didn't even think about translation quality. Then FFVII hit and JRPGs caught on. Other companies were releasing games at a much faster pace and without the weird n' wacky "localization" stuff like added Melrose Place jokes in their games. Nobody cares now.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #37 on:** March 28, 2012, 02:10:16 PM »

Quote from: lyte edge on March 28, 2012, 02:06:12 PM

Nobody cares now.

I don't care about Victor's shitty translations (Melrose Place references), yeah. But I do care about collectors packages that are a labor of love instead of "LOL TWO NEW PIECES OF ARMOR EXCLUSIVE!" that they've turned into this generation. Too bad collections ship has sailed and people should be getting on the digital distro train for JRPGs to even be thought about in terms of localizing.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #38 on:** March 28, 2012, 02:14:02 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 28, 2012, 02:09:00 PM

Quote from: thisismyusername on March 28, 2012, 01:54:15 PM
Ugh. Moe blobs instead of "The Last Ranker" or "Valkyria Chronicles 3..."

Man, Victor should be doing this on PSN (instead of HURP DERP PHYSICAL) because PSP games can be ran on the Vita. Now is the perfect time to strike on putting JRPG's up on Vita before that gets more games that people overlook the PSP back catalog.

I can't say for sure on Last Ranker but I can with a high degree of certainty say that Victor Ireland could show up with 300 hot young virgin women, 75 golden camels, a fan-pleasing ending to Mass Effect 3, the Caramilk secret, and an entire bank vault full of cash, and SEGA would still tell him to go fuck himself sideways.

Yeah, I know.

I know it would be the same for Last Ranker because Capcom and Sega are all "PROTECT THE IPS AND FUCK THE FANS!" about stuff. I'm still waiting for a fan translation to happen for both of them. Haha, fat chance of that though.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #39 on:** March 28, 2012, 02:21:26 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 28, 2012, 02:18:09 PM

I'm not sure if you're aware of it, but Victor Ireland did his absolute best to publicly rub his dick and balls in SEGA's face for like five years or more. He has no friends at SEGA. At all.

Well, that, too. Victor burned a bunch of bridges with that move to Playstation in the day, didn't he?

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #40 on:** March 28, 2012, 02:25:49 PM »

Quote from: thisismyusername on March 28, 2012, 02:10:16 PM

Quote from: lyte edge on March 28, 2012, 02:06:12 PM
Nobody cares now.

I don't care about Victor's shitty translations (Melrose Place references), yeah. But I do care about collectors packages that are a labor of love instead of "LOL TWO NEW PIECES OF ARMOR EXCLUSIVE!" that they've turned into this generation. Too bad collections ship has sailed and people should be getting on the digital distro train for JRPGs to even be thought about in terms of localizing.

I liked really cool collector's editions with tons of stuff in them, too, BACK WHEN I WAS 15 YEARS OLD.

demi · « **Reply #41 on:** March 28, 2012, 02:27:21 PM »

You can't really say that with the type of shit you watch, Great Rumbler.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #42 on:** March 28, 2012, 02:31:52 PM »

Quote from: demi on March 28, 2012, 02:27:21 PM

You can't really say that with the type of shit you watch, Great Rumbler.

What does that have to do with collecting art books, figures, cloth maps, watches, and miscellaneous?

demi · « **Reply #43 on:** March 28, 2012, 02:34:53 PM »

It has to do with you being 15 years old.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #44 on:** March 28, 2012, 02:37:38 PM »

I don't get you.

bork · « **Reply #45 on:** March 28, 2012, 02:55:34 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 28, 2012, 02:24:39 PM

The move probably wouldn't have caused much in the way of hard feelings if he hadn't, in usual Vic Ireland fashion, carried on like SEGA raped his mother in every fucking interview for the next six or seven years after. All because they tucked his booth in a corner at E3. He's an unprofessional infant and pretty much anyone who's ever had to suffer him won't be lining up for a return tour.

Which reminds me of a story I've posted too many times before. Back in 2000 when the PS2 was brand new and hadn't been released outside Japan yet, I imported Silpheed TLP. It was dull and boring, and I found a Usenet thread on the game and posted that it sucked. Didn't check Usenet for a few days. When I came back to the thread, Victor Ireland had asked me why I thought it sucked, declared me a troll for not responding, then a bunch of his boot-licking fanboy toadies joined in and called me a WD hater. (Capcom published the game)

I posted why I didn't like the game and he gave me an answer akin to "well we're going to adjust this setting and add and REMOVE these options to make it better!"

Others then chimed in how they thought it was stupid that WD's philosophy of removing shit to make games "better" was.

bork · « **Reply #46 on:** March 28, 2012, 02:57:29 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 28, 2012, 02:25:49 PM

Quote from: thisismyusername on March 28, 2012, 02:10:16 PM
Quote from: lyte edge on March 28, 2012, 02:06:12 PM
Nobody cares now.

I don't care about Victor's shitty translations (Melrose Place references), yeah. But I do care about collectors packages that are a labor of love instead of "LOL TWO NEW PIECES OF ARMOR EXCLUSIVE!" that they've turned into this generation. Too bad collections ship has sailed and people should be getting on the digital distro train for JRPGs to even be thought about in terms of localizing.

I liked really cool collector's editions with tons of stuff in them, too, BACK WHEN I WAS 15 YEARS OLD.

WD had stupid extras with their games...and until a Lunar II (Lunar 1?) re-release, you HAD to buy their collector's editions, paying more for full color manuals and stupid cardboard cut-out crap or punching puppets or whatever.

I still have some of their games that I need to dump, but have been unable to do so. Nobody wants Arc The Lad Collection with a bonus pocketwatch.

But hey, they brought out Sega Ages for the Saturn, so I can't complain too much.

tiesto · « **Reply #47 on:** March 28, 2012, 03:22:07 PM »

Arc the Lad Collection is pretty sick though...

Oscar, in that Kickstarter thread, Vic mentions something about "SEGA being a lot more receptive to his idea than he was expecting". Probably doesn't mean anything though...

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #48 on:** March 28, 2012, 03:29:32 PM »

Quote from: tiesto on March 28, 2012, 03:22:07 PM

Oscar, in that Kickstarter thread, Vic mentions something about "SEGA being a lot more receptive to his idea than he was expecting". Probably doesn't mean anything though...

"I thought they'd kick me in the shin and then slam the door in my face, but instead they just kindly asked me to leave!"

brob · « **Reply #49 on:** March 28, 2012, 03:46:18 PM »

can I get a kickstarter for a translation of that tingle game about sexual harassment?

thisismyusername · « **Reply #50 on:** March 28, 2012, 07:13:34 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 28, 2012, 02:25:49 PM

Quote from: thisismyusername on March 28, 2012, 02:10:16 PM
Quote from: lyte edge on March 28, 2012, 02:06:12 PM
Nobody cares now.

I don't care about Victor's shitty translations (Melrose Place references), yeah. But I do care about collectors packages that are a labor of love instead of "LOL TWO NEW PIECES OF ARMOR EXCLUSIVE!" that they've turned into this generation. Too bad collections ship has sailed and people should be getting on the digital distro train for JRPGs to even be thought about in terms of localizing.

I liked really cool collector's editions with tons of stuff in them, too, BACK WHEN I WAS 15 YEARS OLD.

:'( Hey!

Nothing to do with being 15, if there's artbooks, music CDs, and stuff that is somewhat "meaningful" in terms of the game, it's better than most collector's editions this generation. That said: WD's "collector's editions" were all mostly shitty, yes.

Frankly, though, that ship (collector's editions in general) has passed. DD is on the uptick and slowly it's going to take over consoles. In fact, it's downright stupid to release a physical collector's edition with no DD access for a PSP game in this current time with the Vita out.

magus · « **Reply #51 on:** March 28, 2012, 07:21:10 PM »

Quote from: Brobzoid on March 28, 2012, 03:46:18 PM

can I get a kickstarter for a translation of that tingle game about sexual harassment?

that was released in europe translated in english

unless you are talking about the sequel which riff the wizard of oz

they could have been kickstarting this... but nope,they have to kickstart the lame dungeon crawler

NOPE,DUNGEON CRAWLER

demi · « **Reply #52 on:** March 28, 2012, 10:24:48 PM »

it's not even "a" physical release, it's more like "anyone who spends over $60 or more gets a physical copy"

I'm honestly boggled at the whole thing. He's doing so much damage control on this, lol.

demi · « **Reply #53 on:** March 28, 2012, 10:29:10 PM »

Well he's pretty active in the thread:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=468078

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #54 on:** March 29, 2012, 09:44:04 AM »

His latest angle is "well, we could have just said we needed $500,000 to acquire the license to the game, but we were honest about it, so give us teh monies."

Momo · « **Reply #55 on:** March 29, 2012, 11:52:35 AM »

358
Backers
$33,565

lol averaging out at just about $100 per sucker

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #56 on:** March 29, 2012, 12:03:02 PM »

I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but there's a Kickstarter from some former ICOM folks to release Sherlock Holmes: Consulting Detective as 9 digital "episodes" on PC and iOS/Android:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1920171553/sherlock-holmes-consulting-detective-adventure-mys

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #57 on:** March 29, 2012, 12:03:16 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 29, 2012, 11:53:59 AM

There's no way he's going to make it at this rate. We've got our first failed "industry" Kickstarter here.

>> "industry"

demi · « **Reply #58 on:** March 29, 2012, 12:03:17 PM »

It's not even a kickstarter! The product is coming!

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #59 on:** March 29, 2012, 12:06:08 PM »

Yeah, people need a reason to participate in a Kickstarter - like "I am going to get a game I would otherwise not get." That's the traditional reason, at least!

This is pretty much a UMD-only physical release with 1000% markup on the physical items. Unless you really want a Clash of Heroes II plushy (wat) there's NO reason to donate.

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Author Topic: ALL ABOARD THE VICSTARTER! TOOT TOOT (Read 5260 times)