First World Problems: To buy a 3DS or not to buy, that is thine question

[Tasty]

So yeah I know I said I'd get one when I got paid but it's still hard for me to pull the trigger. I know if I get one and Mario/Kart/RE/MGS/KI then it'll be the final nail in me not finishing Xenoblade. I've only put a couple hours into it so far, and I've had it for two weeks. :'(

And at this point, it's like, E3 is a month off. They probably won't announce a redesign but who knows? And even if they don't, I still want this beauty:



Fricking NoA gives us pink but not this. :'(

(Although red is second choice.)

I'm so confused Bore what should I do.

[Mr. Gundam]

Get one of the HD consoles.

[archie4208]

Get a PC.

[MCD]

Wait for Lite edition. You waited all this time, what's a couple more months?



Get a Windows Phone 7 in the mean time. Please support the Metro revolution.

[Tasty]

Get a PC.

Get one of the HD consoles.

The problem with these options is that they cost more than $170, in the case of the PC I want to build substantially more. I am going to start buying parts for my new PC, but piecemeal over the next month or two.

As for the HD console option, well, I already have two 3DS games. And I'm kinda sick of being made fun of for not having a 3DS.

Wait for Lite edition. You waited all this time, what's a couple more months?



Get a Windows Phone 7 in the mean time. Please support the Metro revolution.

I promise to get a Windows Phone shortly after I buy a Vita, how about that?

[MCD]

I'm a very generous man. I promise to gift you something if you actually bought one.

[Bebpo]

Wait for revision.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Wait for e3 at least.

[demi]

I'm buying one after E3.

[archnemesis]

There is no reason to jump on it now if you hardly play the games you already own. Might as well wait for a revision.

[Positive Touch]

buy one and sell me your xenoblade

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Wait for the inevitable 3DS Lite.  You already waited over a year, what is a few more months?  It isn't like the 3DS is going anywhere anytime soon.

[Joe Molotov]

Wait for the 4DS.

[Vizzys]

I don't think 3ds lite will be announced at e3, just my guess though

What games u got/want bro

[Bebpo]

When they announce a revision with a better screen I know I'm going to end up double dipping   But probably won't replace both my US & JPN region ones.  Will have to look at which has the better games coming and choose one to upgrade.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Bebpo you have two 3dses?

[Tasty]

Wait for the 4DS.

After Sony goes third party they'll collaborate for it. I can just see the announcement now...

I don't think 3ds lite will be announced at e3, just my guess though

What games u got/want bro

I'm 70% sure it won't be either, but I'm 90% sure there will be a redesign announced by September. Too many things have lined up. Nintendo says the 3DS hardware will start to turn a profit by then... pretty specific, they could have just said Q3 or Q4.

Then there's a fact that NSMB2 is releasing in August, which is eerily similar to the original NSMB coming out in May and the DS Lite hitting in June (in America lolz.) I dunno, just a gut feeling I have.

What do I have? OoT 3D (Amazon special) and TotA (was worried it might go out of print and my friend has been saying for years how great it is.)

What do I want? The must-haves for me:

- SM3DL
- MK7
- RE Revelations
- MGS3D
- Kid Icarus
- (Pushmo)
- (Mutant Mudds)

After I clear those then the next ones I get could include Spirit Camera, Sonic Gen, Star Fox, Shantae, VVVVVV, and Mighty Switch Force.

The Ice White machine and the Monster Hunter special are both pretty good looking but Nintendo fucked themselves with the "tying purchase to a machine" thing - yes, i know i can jump through hoops and do a transfer but i'd like to , you know, just log into my account and redownload.

Not really jumping through hoops, it's right there in the OS. Only pain is you have to have both systems, which obviously precludes selling the device to buy a new one...

Andrex - given you've insunated you make mad bank and you're a screaming Ninthing i am stunned you haven't stuck your hand in your pocket for a 3DS. It's legitimately got a great line up.

I know I know I know. >_< But I'm trying to be more responsible with my moneyz. Last week before I was paid I had like $4.97 in my account and needed to divy that up between food and subway/bus costs. Don't want that to happen again.

At this point it's probably worth waiting to see what happens at E3 and go from there, but yeah - it's a good machine. I like it.

Stfu Ninhater!!!1

[Tasty]

Stfu Ninhater!!!1

I'm only pimping the machine because Nintendo lose money on every unit sold and i only buy the games to justify my trolling 

My God... it all makes sense!! 

[Takao]

Andrex buy me a Japanese 3DS so I can play silly children's robot games

[Tasty]

Andrex buy me a Japanese 3DS so I can play silly children's robot games

You bought a Vita, you're obviously rich enough to buy eight 3DS's and not worry about the costs.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I'm only pimping the machine because Nintendo lose money on every unit sold and i only buy the games to justify my trolling 

I never thought of it that way.  I'll buy a 3DS then and buy all of the games used!

[Huff]

Usually if you have to ask don't buy it, but I'm still not sure why you never had one in the first place

[EmCeeGrammar]

Ehhh, I'm kinda regretting it.  I like several eshop games but I can never find a good reason to play the thing.  If I have downtime I'm at home and I just play wii.  Retail is outrageous prices when it is something I want, and the abscence of western support and the uncertainty of japanese localizations is disconcerting. I do find that special ware that makes a strong impression and in a way justifies the existence of the machine to me.  Colors 3d is an amazing art app that couldn't be replicated elsewhere (3d integration is awesome for compostition purposes).  I also love Zen Pinball 3d.  I think whats sad is that I can only think of a few games in the future I'm willing to plunker down full price for.  Rayman Origins could be awesome if they nail 60 fps autostereoscopic visuals. Parallax scrolling is state of the art again based on what I've seen in Mighty Switch Force.  Animal Crossing looks nice and should be awesome with spotpass and streetpass integration.

I wouldn't question myself twice if Pokemon 3ds was an imminent thing.  But gamefreak got cold feet or something , I dunno.  I kinda don't want a pokemon game not tailored to the new system features.  The system has a lot of potential to carve out a strong niche if Nintendo plays their cards right, but NoA doesn't seem to have a plan beyond continued advertising for Nintendo Dogs+Cats.  When the dd of retail games materialized I also might be more placatable, I kinda wanna get stuff like Pilotwings and Steel Diver but not as carts I have to switch out.

edit: Also , where the fuck are Warioware and Advance Wars, huhhhhhhhhhhh?

[Freyj]

Get a PC.

Get one of the HD consoles.

The problem with these options is that they cost more than $170, in the case of the PC I want to build substantially more. I am going to start buying parts for my new PC, but piecemeal over the next month or two.

As for the HD console option, well, I already have two 3DS games. And I'm kinda sick of being made fun of for not having a 3DS.

For the price of a 3DS and the games you mentioned you could buy a bottom line (possibly lightly used) PS3 or 360 and go nuts with the bargain bin. Or you could drop $120 on three Nintendo games.

[tiesto]

Yeah, the 3DS as a hardware platform is terribly unappealing to me at this moment:
-main gimmick (the 3D) gives me headaches
-region-locked (in a post-Rainfall time when less and less Japanese games are getting released stateside)
-screen scratching and other hardware flaws. I was lol when my brother had a piece of felt between the screens, and he said that you need to do that otherwise the screen gets marked up
-need for bulky 2nd stick to play certain games

That's why I'm holding out for a redesign... though Mario 3D Land, Kid Icarus, and Bravely Default are very tempting "must plays" for me.

Vita seems fantasic, apart from a lack of TV/out... but its high price and cloudy longterm viability has me worried. Lumines, Wipeout, Sound Shapes, and anything Falcom are extremely tempting for me, as well as the PSP download only games like Patchwork Heroes and Corpse Party (I never bothered upgrading my PSP memory).

We'll see what happens at E3... I have exactly $250 in GameStop giftcards from last Christmas.

[EmCeeGrammar]

WiiU will be out this year, don't settle for lesser endeavors Andrex

[Tasty]

I wouldn't question myself twice if Pokemon 3ds was an imminent thing.  But gamefreak got cold feet or something , I dunno.

GF don't usually handle generational transitions well. It was like 2.5 years after the DS came out that D/P did, and they ran like crap. Emerald even came out months after the DS was released (in America.) Hopefully they're tuning their engine on 3DS so we don't have a repeat of that. More than any dev though, when BW came out I realized GF really want to stretch their legs on new hardware.

I kinda don't want a pokemon game not tailored to the new system features.

Considering BW implemented some of the 3DS's features before 3DS did, I'd say that's a certainty.

edit: Also , where the fuck are Warioware and Advance Wars, huhhhhhhhhhhh?

WarioWare DIY 2 with (actual, official, system-based) DLC support and NiN stuff and StreetPass junk =

-need for bulky 2nd stick to play certain games

There is no "need." Even RE Rev and MGS3 I've heard play fine without it and those are the two games that would probably benefit the most. Hell even MH3G, which it was made for, isn't as necessary with the auto-lockon whatever.

I do hope the redesign has both of them from the get-go though, and that LM2 supports it.

[EmCeeGrammar]

I highly doubt BlackWhite2 will use any of the specific 3ds functionality.  And thats a shame. 

[demi]

-region-locked (in a post-Rainfall time when less and less Japanese games are getting released stateside)

Is this really a detractor to some people? How many J-DS games have you opted to import, instead of crying about it not coming?

[Bebpo]

Bebpo you have two 3dses?

Yep. 

Region locking  :'(

[Tasty]

I highly doubt BlackWhite2 will use any of the specific 3ds functionality.  And thats a shame.

Nah, it won't, it can really only use up to DSi stuff like BW did. But the BW C-Gear had functions eerily similar to StreetPass, along with some other stuff.

[Bebpo]

-region-locked (in a post-Rainfall time when less and less Japanese games are getting released stateside)

Is this really a detractor to some people? How many J-DS games have you opted to import, instead of crying about it not coming?

I think it matters to people more and more these days as fewer Japanese games are being brought over and will continue to be brought over in the next few years since the market in the US has moved strongly away from J-gaming.  Meanwhile, 95% of the worthwhile games for the system will be made in Japan since Western devs don't touch handhelds.  So that means a lot of good games might get left out.

[magus]

-region-locked (in a post-Rainfall time when less and less Japanese games are getting released stateside)

Is this really a detractor to some people? How many J-DS games have you opted to import, instead of crying about it not coming?

there are a lot of titles that never come in europe or come after several months,so yeah regional locks sucks

i was thinking of picking a 3DS myself but then i tought... what the heck i'm supposed to play on it? super mario land and mario kart 7?
PASS

[cool breeze]

-region-locked (in a post-Rainfall time when less and less Japanese games are getting released stateside)

Is this really a detractor to some people? How many J-DS games have you opted to import, instead of crying about it not coming?

I have maybe 10 or more imports between Japan and Europe for DS.  A few of those eventually came over, but most didn't.  Chou Soujuu Mecha MG is one of the top DS games and wasn't even brought to Europe.  So, yeah.  Region locking is sucks, but there's enough in NA alone to warrant a purchase.


re: second stick.  It's not "needed" for these games, in the same sense that you don't need a gamepad/stick to play Street Fighter Alpha 2 on PC.  And that's only for Resident Evil and MGS3 (which isn't worth it if you have a PS2/PS3/360) or if you're left handed and want to play Kid Icarus.  There isn't really support for it.  The bigger control issue that could be fixed with a revision is the poor d-pad and its placement.

and yeah, why would you ever impulse buy a system if you've waited this long? at least wait for a deal or E3 (for revision / other news).

[Takao]

-region-locked (in a post-Rainfall time when less and less Japanese games are getting released stateside)

Is this really a detractor to some people? How many J-DS games have you opted to import, instead of crying about it not coming?

I have 2 right now. I'll probably get Inazuma Eleven and its sequel for Europe bumping that to 4. One of the 2 I own is Medabots DS, which has an lol worthy history of localizations, and so of course has its latest iteration announced for 3DS.

[demi]

-region-locked (in a post-Rainfall time when less and less Japanese games are getting released stateside)

Is this really a detractor to some people? How many J-DS games have you opted to import, instead of crying about it not coming?

there are a lot of titles that never come in europe or come after several months,so yeah regional locks sucks

YOU DONT EVEN BUY THEM!

[tiesto]

-region-locked (in a post-Rainfall time when less and less Japanese games are getting released stateside)

Is this really a detractor to some people? How many J-DS games have you opted to import, instead of crying about it not coming?

Probably about 10 or so? Including the euro Tingle game. Its not like I'm a stranger to importing.
Plus, most of the good shit for DS got English release. But considering how the US market is nowadays, that's not much of a guarantee we'll be seeing more imports our way.

[Sho Nuff]

Wow that new firmware update sure is sweet. You can make a folder and assign it one letter. COOL

[Tasty]

Wow that new firmware update sure is sweet. You can make a folder and assign it one letter. COOL

FUOTY: Firmware Update of the Year

Not that it takes much to beat Vita's "updates."

[Huff]

Can you only assign it one letter?

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Wow that new firmware update sure is sweet. You can make a folder and assign it one letter. COOL

FUOTY: Firmware Update of the Year

Not that it takes much to beat Vita's "updates."

You should make a separate thread with a GAF style OP.  Hey, it's what the Sfags did for PS3 firmware update 2.4! (The one that allowed trophies, you know, the poor man's equivalent to achievement points, the very thing Sfags detested from 2006-2008?)

[Tasty]

Wow that new firmware update sure is sweet. You can make a folder and assign it one letter. COOL

FUOTY: Firmware Update of the Year

Not that it takes much to beat Vita's "updates."

You should make a separate thread with a GAF style OP.  Hey, it's what the Sfags did for PS3 firmware update 2.4! (The one that allowed trophies, you know, the poor man's equivalent to achievement points, the very thing Sfags detested from 2006-2008?)

I had blocked that from my memory. Although GAF does have a(n informal) thread for the folders topic.

[Tasty]

you used 'thine' completely incorrectly here.

I know. It was ironic. Thine wasn't even in the original line. I think.

And hey at least I'm not holding a skull.

as for your question, do what you want.  it's only $170, no need to wring your hands over it.

This post contributed greatly to the thread and my decision to buy or not buy a 3DS. Thank you. 

[Tasty]

I actually was split, and probably would have got a 3DS this week if not for the 10 "WAIT FOR E3 PLEB" posts in a row. So that's what I'm going to do now.

Maybe my mind is just soft and easily swayed by forum posts.

[cool breeze]

I had blocked that from my memory. Although GAF does have a(n informal) thread for the folders topic.

3DS is the real portable PS3

Then again, not even Nintendo could top Sony's struggle to fix the clock and battery meter from overlapping.

[Tasty]

no, the very fact that you came to a militantly anti-nintendo forum to ask if you should buy a nintendo console tells me that you already decided you shouldn't buy it, and just wanted some support on that.

Uhh no dude, I'm telling the truth, and I really was asking for opinions. Waiting until after E3 was one of the options I considered, but I wasn't leaning towards it at all.

[Takao]

Derpy Vegeta: "You should buy Takao a J-3DS, he doesn't care if there's a revision with 10 analog sticks announced in August"

you gonna upset vegeta

[Shaka Khan]

Dude, you're a Nintentard. You want one. You're going to get one. You're going to love it. Money isn't an issue. So get one. Right. Fucking. Now.

The sooner you do it, the sooner I can stop hating you for shilling games you don't own on systems you haven't purchased.

[Tasty]

Dude, you're a Nintentard. You want one. You're going to get one. You're going to love it. Money isn't an issue. So get one. Right. Fucking. Now.

The sooner you do it, the sooner I can stop hating you for shilling games you don't own on systems you haven't purchased.

...And then there's posts like this that swing me the other way.

BUT WHAT ABOUT MY BACKLOG SHAKA

[Eel O'Brian]

here is how i am pretty sure that there will be a revision soon:

go to the gamestop website, and look for the circle pad pro. you will see that it isn't going to be in stock again until july. now go to the official nintendo online store, and you will see the same thing. it isn't that there is a shortage of components, because the fucking thing is a lump of plastic they could easily shit out by the hundreds of thousands. it's that there is a shortage of giving a fuck, because sometime this year they're gonna sweep the first busted hunk of shit under a rug and launch another with a bigger battery and that extra stick built in.

[Shaka Khan]

BUT WHAT ABOUT MY BACKLOG SHAKA

Play you're 3DS when you're dropping deuces. Play your console when you're not.

OR

Fuck backlogs. Because there's always going to be backlogs. So play what you want and stop keeping a count.

[Eel O'Brian]

yeah, forgot about that

so, a bigger 3ds to accomodate the extra stick and larger battery, and that nfc shit built in?

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

it's the threads that are "i bought a <newsystem> ... what games does this thing have? Recommendations please!" - i mean, seriously, there's one a week per platform and rather than people say "Go look at <this> thread!" we have a complete repeat. Don't buy a platform if you don't know whats on the fucking platform.

I don't agree with this.  I'll use the example of the PS3 I bought a few months ago.  When I had a 360, I didn't give two shits what came out for the PS3 other than to laugh at a major game bombing.  Yet there is a lot of bullshit and hubris with a lot of PS3 titles because people liked these games for reasons other than the game itself.  However, I trust the opinions (other than the chaff like Methodis or Damian79) of this board so it would be useful to ask what good games came out for the system because I'd probably get far more of an honest opinion than if I went to GAF, where they'd probably recommend shit like Heavy Rain with a straight face.

[Shaka Khan]

here is how i am pretty sure that there will be a revision soon:

go to the gamestop website, and look for the circle pad pro. you will see that it isn't going to be in stock again until july. now go to the official nintendo online store, and you will see the same thing. it isn't that there is a shortage of components, because the fucking thing is a lump of plastic they could easily shit out by the hundreds of thousands. it's that there is a shortage of giving a fuck, because sometime this year they're gonna sweep the first busted hunk of shit under a rug and launch another with a bigger battery and that extra stick built in.

I'm not sure if this means "revision at E3" or not, but it's something that's been really bugging me. I've had mine pre-ordered since Feb, and GS keeps bumping the expected arrival date.

[Huff]

I'd imagine that they are also trying to make sure when they launch the revision that they keep the price similar to the current model. Not sure how much a bigger battery, the stick, and any other gadgets they put in would add to the cost

[Tasty]

Uhh no dude, I'm telling the truth, and I really was asking for opinions. Waiting until after E3 was one of the options I considered, but I wasn't leaning towards it at all.

I believe that you're telling the truth, as you understand it.  Your sub-conscious obviously didn't fill you in on the plan.

You can never admit when you're wrong, can you?

BUT WHAT ABOUT MY BACKLOG SHAKA

Play you're 3DS when you're dropping deuces. Play your console when you're not.

OR

Fuck backlogs. Because there's always going to be backlogs. So play what you want and stop keeping a count.

But i r ocd.

[Tasty]

OK, now the thread has a poll so we can decide this properly. Shaka's post made me undecided again.

[Takao]

On second thought Andrex, you probably shouldn't buy me a J-3DS. I'd probably play it twice. The last time I used my North American one to actually play a game was months ago.

[cool breeze]

I'm guessing the current 3DS will stay at $170 and the new model will be $200.  DSi XL (and the DSi, I think) were more expensive than the Lite.

[Tasty]

No, because I'm not wrong here.  Unless you're a magical unicorn human being that defies every piece of psychological research done to date.

But maybe you are.

Am I not different from every other fanboy you've encountered? It's not impossible.

I'm guessing the current 3DS will stay at $170 and the new model will be $200.  DSi XL (and the DSi, I think) were more expensive than the Lite.

Not to mention the Vita now gives them some great headroom until they drop the price, which probably won't be for a while unless the Vita is halfway in the grave (right now it's really only dipping its ankle.)