Author Topic: So I started watching THE WIRE... see wut this fuss is all about mayne (Read 9744 times)

Ruzbeh · « **on:** May 22, 2012, 10:34:33 AM »

TBH I started watching this cause I thought Idris Elba looked like a boss and I recently started browsing this shit hole again and Himu is trying to be cute by calling himself Stringer Bell.

I dunno I watch anime mostly these days but I like this show. I'm not into detective shows or whatever and shows like CSI piss me off with their nonsense needless to say this show is nothing like it. I'm only in a few eps and it's incredibly memorable. Almost every scene seems to be meaningful. It's pretty awesome. I've read some stuff about people calling this the best show of all time but the show is good, but not "I can't believe my eyes" good, you know? There's no reason why other shows can't be this good... it's kinda sad...

Avon gonna get got, yo

FlameofCallandorReturns · « **Reply #1 on:** May 22, 2012, 10:41:10 AM »

I'm on season 2.

It's definitely better than the Sopranos which gets/got a lot more praise.

chronovore · « **Reply #2 on:** May 22, 2012, 10:49:48 AM »

Idris Elba is pretty great.

Fifstar · « **Reply #3 on:** May 22, 2012, 10:49:51 AM »

Quote from: FlameofCallandorReturns on May 22, 2012, 10:41:10 AM

It's definitely better than the Sopranos which gets/got a lot more praise.

Not really. Sopranos got an tremendous amount of praise, but The Wire now wins most "best Tv Show of the last 20 years" rankings. Maybe it was talked about more by the media/public, but that's understandable given it's higher ratings and that it was the show that started this thing of high quality tv dramas.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #4 on:** May 22, 2012, 10:53:39 AM »

You missed the moment- now you cant sit around the watercooler talking about that thing

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #5 on:** May 22, 2012, 12:28:07 PM »

OMAR COMIN MAN

Verdigris Murder · « **Reply #6 on:** May 22, 2012, 02:37:40 PM »

The last season is pure wankery. Apart from that, it's not as good as The Shield.

Himu · « **Reply #7 on:** May 22, 2012, 02:40:02 PM »

last season is good and better than most entire runs of lesser shows

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #8 on:** May 22, 2012, 02:44:52 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on May 22, 2012, 02:40:02 PM

last season is good and better than most entire runs of lesser shows

Why are you comparing it to lesser shows? It's not a good season, period; that's not to say it's bad. It has some great moments but ultimately is way too heavy handed.

IMO:

1. The Wire
2. The Shield
3 The Sopranos

Himu · « **Reply #9 on:** May 22, 2012, 02:49:32 PM »

depends on the sub plot.

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the fake killer sub plot was bad, and the newspaper angle was wasted potential

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but it was ultimately still pretty good.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #10 on:** May 22, 2012, 02:52:53 PM »

That plot felt like Simon directly preaching to the audience. I get the point, I agree with the point, but it was just handled so poorly I couldn't take it seriously.

Robo · « **Reply #11 on:** May 22, 2012, 02:54:40 PM »

I still haven't watched any of The Shield. How have I persisted for so long as an incomplete man?

Himu · « **Reply #12 on:** May 22, 2012, 02:54:44 PM »

it definitely could have been handled better if it didn't come from such a biased source. that said, i really like the message.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #13 on:** May 22, 2012, 03:05:20 PM »

Quote from: Robo on May 22, 2012, 02:54:40 PM

I still haven't watched any of The Shield. How have I persisted for so long as an incomplete man?

Me and Cajole were going to invite you to The Cool Club. Not anymore

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #14 on:** May 22, 2012, 03:07:50 PM »

The Shield is on FX right?

Himu · « **Reply #15 on:** May 22, 2012, 03:14:49 PM »

the shield has been over for years

it's on dvd

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #16 on:** May 22, 2012, 03:15:09 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on May 22, 2012, 03:07:50 PM

The Shield is on FX right?

You were never considered for the club

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #17 on:** May 22, 2012, 03:25:08 PM »

Quote from: Martin Raperman on May 22, 2012, 02:37:40 PM

Apart from that, it's not as good as The Shield.

Nope

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #18 on:** May 22, 2012, 03:28:47 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on May 22, 2012, 03:15:09 PM

Quote from: BrandNew on May 22, 2012, 03:07:50 PM
The Shield is on FX right?

You were never considered for the club

And I've been going through The Wire again, I still really, really like Season 2 but it may be due to the change in venue. Just started Season 4 which I remember I didn't like as much the first time but for some reason I'm really curious about Marlo this time around so I think I'll appreciate the season even more.

Also The Shield is fantastic. They somehow maintain a sense of tension throughout the whole run of the show.

Himu · « **Reply #19 on:** May 22, 2012, 04:00:32 PM »

the bore facebook page doesn't get posts unless the bore is down

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #20 on:** May 22, 2012, 04:08:21 PM »

The Shield is very consistent for a show that lasted seven years. I remember enjoying each season (I've only seen them once). S5 is one of the best seasons of anything ever, and it has the best final season/finale

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #21 on:** May 22, 2012, 04:35:01 PM »

season 3 is the best season

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #22 on:** May 22, 2012, 04:37:15 PM »

Hamsterdam

Yeah I'm liking Season 3 the best this time around

Verdigris Murder · « **Reply #23 on:** May 22, 2012, 06:08:30 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on May 22, 2012, 04:08:21 PM

The Shield is very consistent for a show that lasted seven years. I remember enjoying each season (I've only seen them once). S5 is one of the best seasons of anything ever, and it has the best final season/finale

That's the thing: consistency. Basically the Wire felt like it ran out of creative steam in the last season, an awful lot of it just felt flat. Whereas The Shield opened strong, and finished strong. There's also an f-bong dropped by Shane when he fights the Armenian foot-chopping Jesus guy, but they left it in for some reason. Also Forest Whitaker was on some serious superbolic acting juice.

Yeah more stuff sticks with The Shield. We can at least all agree on that, thank god.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #24 on:** May 22, 2012, 06:17:51 PM »

The Wire is ok. its not the greatest thing ever like people treat it, and The Shield is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY better. But The Wire is good. I think in the echelons of best tv ever it goes:

1. The Shield
2. Twin Peaks Season 1
3. Larry Sanders Show
4. The Wire
5. Parks & Rec

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #25 on:** May 22, 2012, 06:22:11 PM »

Dunno about that argument Mr. Raperman, the first four seasons of The Wire are basically amazing television; the third and fourth seasons may be the best of anything I've seen. The fifth is meh, but doesn't mar the series; at least the finale episode was very good. So in that sense it's an incredibly consistent series.

I need to watch The Shield again. It just doesn't compare to The Wire's writing, but then again nothing does

Shadow Mod · « **Reply #26 on:** May 22, 2012, 07:39:54 PM »

It went off the rails in later seasons but any of you who haven't seen OZ really need to.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #27 on:** May 22, 2012, 07:41:23 PM »

Seasons as in plural? Explain yo. S3 and S4 are amazing, especially S4

I watched the first few eps of Oz, it was pretty good but I ran out of time.

Himu · « **Reply #28 on:** May 22, 2012, 07:43:16 PM »

Season 2 of The Wire is amazing.

Shadow Mod · « **Reply #29 on:** May 22, 2012, 07:45:45 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on May 22, 2012, 07:41:23 PM

Seasons as in plural? Explain yo. S3 and S4 are amazing, especially S4

I watched the first few eps of Oz, it was pretty good but I ran out of time.

5/6 =/

Himu · « **Reply #30 on:** May 22, 2012, 07:46:23 PM »

There is no sixth season of the wire...

Shadow Mod · « **Reply #31 on:** May 22, 2012, 07:53:21 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on May 22, 2012, 07:46:23 PM

There is no sixth season of the wire...

You and PD must have thought I was talking about the Wire when I was referencing OZ going off the rails. Probably my fault. Anyway The Wire maintained a good series throughout. Just sayin' OZ has a lot of overlap with actors and writers.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #32 on:** May 22, 2012, 08:03:05 PM »

I can vouch for the first two seasons of Oz being quality entertainment.

Mupepe · « **Reply #33 on:** May 22, 2012, 08:09:18 PM »

Season 3 of Oz starts a horrible descent into crap. It's watchable, but it's more sad than it is fun. Don't bother with the rest IMO.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #34 on:** May 22, 2012, 08:18:29 PM »

the wire definitely has the best dialogue, but the shield is a better DRAMA. the wire never hits the crazy high notes the shield does, but the shield never gives you much to think about. the shield knows it's TELEVISION first and foremost and makes an art out of that; the wire considers itself art (not in a pretentious way), and makes tv out of that.

the wire makes you go HMMM; the shield makes you go WHAT THE FUCK. it depends on what you're in the mood for.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #35 on:** May 22, 2012, 08:20:39 PM »

i think teh show with a character named cleetus van damn wins out.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #36 on:** May 22, 2012, 08:21:15 PM »

seriously, aceveda :-( no series has ever reliably shocked the shit out of me and surprised me with more crazy dramatic scenarios than the shield.

DAT PACING

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #37 on:** May 22, 2012, 08:27:39 PM »

i could never look at that character the same ever again and i dont know hwy. it doesn't bug me IRL but in that show it bugged the shit outta me .

it actually amazes me what they got away with on basic cable.

Boogie · « **Reply #38 on:** May 22, 2012, 09:05:10 PM »

Allrighty, looks like it's time for me to finally get around to watching The Shield then.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #39 on:** May 22, 2012, 09:29:36 PM »

Quote from: Thomas Householmes Lane on May 22, 2012, 06:17:51 PM

The Wire is ok. its not the greatest thing ever like people treat it, and The Shield is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY better. But The Wire is good. I think in the echelons of best tv ever it goes:
1. The Shield
2. Twin Peaks Season 1
3. Larry Sanders Show
4. The Wire
5. Parks & Rec

You have good taste. I haven't seen twin peaks but otherwise I agree with the list. The Shield was a better written and more consistent show. It felt like it just got better and better every season while The Wire got more mellow and just transformed into a soap box in the last season.

Quote from: Needs More Cowbell on May 22, 2012, 07:39:54 PM

It went off the rails in later seasons but any of you who haven't seen OZ really need to.

I watched all of Oz in like 10 days, like 5-6 episodes a day. The show is very engrossing but weird and depressing as fuck.

Shadow Mod · « **Reply #40 on:** May 22, 2012, 09:32:44 PM »

Quote from: am nintenho on May 22, 2012, 09:29:36 PM

I watched all of Oz in like 10 days, like 5-6 episodes a day. The show is very engrossing but weird and depressing as fuck.

It was a series of never ending car crashes really.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #41 on:** May 22, 2012, 09:32:59 PM »

ty for the compliment

. i like lots of tv shows, and that list was excluding some of my favorite british tv shows like JAAAMM but I figured i'd just list shows most people have a idea of.

also I didn't think Sopranos didn't get bad until THAT episode, the one where they lose the guy in the woods. from that episode on it went to shit.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #42 on:** May 22, 2012, 09:52:35 PM »

I like The Shield more than the Wire and this is confirmed after multiple viewings of both.

Not that I think that The Wire is a bad show, on the contrary, it is excellent. You can't go wrong with either one, really.

Shadow Mod · « **Reply #43 on:** May 22, 2012, 10:03:16 PM »

Been rewatching Deadwood, still fucking pissed it got cancelled.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #44 on:** May 22, 2012, 10:03:25 PM »

Twin Peaks season 1 is like something that never could have possibly been on tv except in a perfect storm of awesomeness and lax network oversight.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Also, TP, Larry Sanders, and Parks & Rec? SOMEBODY IS WHITE UP IN HURR

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Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #45 on:** May 22, 2012, 10:04:19 PM »

i prefer the shield myself. man, the bit where

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dutch kills the cat

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was one of the most intense moments i've ever seen on tv, from a dramatic perspective

Shadow Mod · « **Reply #46 on:** May 22, 2012, 10:10:03 PM »

Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on May 22, 2012, 10:03:25 PM

Twin Peaks season 1 is like something that never could have possibly been on tv except in a perfect storm of awesomeness and lax network oversight.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Also, TP, Larry Sanders, and Parks & Rec? SOMEBODY IS WHITE UP IN HURR
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I still need to watch Twin Peaks. I watched Carnivale which had that little person actor. Still pissed that got cancelled too.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #47 on:** May 22, 2012, 10:11:16 PM »

Good lord Devo you need to get on that. Twin Peaks has an overall tone that no show has ever achieved, for me at least. Drops off in the second season but gets awesome again 2/3rds in.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #48 on:** May 22, 2012, 10:11:53 PM »

Quote from: Van Cruncheon on May 22, 2012, 08:18:29 PM

the wire definitely has the best dialogue, but the shield is a better DRAMA. the wire never hits the crazy high notes the shield does, but the shield never gives you much to think about. the shield knows it's TELEVISION first and foremost and makes an art out of that; the wire considers itself art (not in a pretentious way), and makes tv out of that.

the wire makes you go HMMM; the shield makes you go WHAT THE FUCK. it depends on what you're in the mood for.

Wait what? The Wire hits some amazing high notes in every season except the last one, especially towards the end of seasons.

I can certainly think of some huge Oh Shit moments in The Shield, but I can only think of two (I'm sure anyone who has watched The Shield can guess one of them) that had enormous emotional resonance with me. Whereas The Wire has a multitude of those.

But like I said it's my second favorite show, so overall arguing The Wire v The Shield is sort of like asking who you want to bang: 70s Pam Grier or 70s Claudia Cardinale. You can't lose, just go balls deep and salute your excellent taste

Shadow Mod · « **Reply #49 on:** May 22, 2012, 10:13:31 PM »

Quote from: BlueTsunami on May 22, 2012, 10:11:16 PM

Good lord Devo you need to get on that. Twin Peaks has an overall tone that no show has ever achieved, for me at least. Drops off in the second season but gets awesome again 2/3rds in.

K. That will be on the top of the list then.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #50 on:** May 22, 2012, 10:20:27 PM »

I've had Twin Peaks on the Netflix queue for months. I guess I should get around to watching it.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #51 on:** May 23, 2012, 03:03:40 AM »

Quote from: Needs More Cowbell on May 22, 2012, 09:32:44 PM

Quote from: am nintenho on May 22, 2012, 09:29:36 PM
I watched all of Oz in like 10 days, like 5-6 episodes a day. The show is very engrossing but weird and depressing as fuck.

It was a series of never ending car crashes really.

But the cars kept on running. With every new plot arc, you knew that Tobias Beecher would get screwed over but still end up living.

Himu · « **Reply #52 on:** May 24, 2012, 05:48:17 PM »

s2 is amazing

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #53 on:** May 24, 2012, 05:54:55 PM »

Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on May 22, 2012, 10:03:25 PM

Twin Peaks season 1 is like something that never could have possibly been on tv except in a perfect storm of awesomeness and lax network oversight.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #54 on:** May 24, 2012, 06:03:36 PM »

Twin Peaks really nailed the feel of lurking terror with the saccharine and humoristic tone overtone. The music of the opening credits hits this tone perfectly.

Quote from: Stringer Bell on May 24, 2012, 05:48:17 PM

s2 is amazing

Loved the sort of allegorical take on the working man having to steal what they couldn't make. You really feel for the dock workers, something I never felt with the East Side West Side stuff. The ending and how it all wraps up is damn amazing. Fucking Frank Sobotka man.

Verdigris Murder · « **Reply #55 on:** May 24, 2012, 06:17:58 PM »

Season 2 is the peak of the series, which is a bit of a shame for something so spunked over by the gushing press that it looks like one of the dead blonde twins Reggie Fils Aime (which almost means I love young boys in French) keeps in his basement for 'playing changing nappies' with.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #56 on:** May 24, 2012, 06:21:49 PM »

should really just ignore season 2 of Twin Peaks and pretend it ended in Season 1. Also don't feel bad skipping every scene with James in it.

Verdigris Murder · « **Reply #57 on:** May 24, 2012, 06:25:44 PM »

I actually didn't bother with the tv series, and just leapt straight into 'Fire Walk With Me'. Without context, it's a bit like one of those performance art pieces you sometimes read about in Huffington or reddit.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #58 on:** May 24, 2012, 06:41:07 PM »

that is probably the worst thing you couuld possibly ever do with a tv show and a tv movie.

for the record it goes Season 1 > season 2 > FWWM, even though FWWM is a prequel, it will make 0 sense if you haven't seen season 1 and half of season 2

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #59 on:** May 24, 2012, 07:42:54 PM »

So what happened with S2 of Twin Peaks? I don't know much about the show, just that David Lynch is involved. Did he and other writers bail after the first season?

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Author Topic: So I started watching THE WIRE... see wut this fuss is all about mayne (Read 9744 times)

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