Author Topic: Sony Conference featuring fake Juno and real Juno (tl;dr "vita? what's that?") (Read 41445 times)

cool breeze · « **Reply #420 on:** June 07, 2012, 04:20:39 PM »

Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on June 06, 2012, 03:29:42 PM

Quote from: Linkzg on June 06, 2012, 02:13:56 PM
PS1 games on Vita appear to be running through the PSP's PS1 emulator

uh, so no dual stick?

no dual stick. no single stick. no R2/3&L2/3 mapped to back touchpad. and allegedly Sony's rolling them out on a timely basis, meaning like PSP games, some PS1 games will be incompatible until a later date.

Sony, folks.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #421 on:** June 07, 2012, 04:31:22 PM »

thats not true Linkzg, my friend worked at the team working on the Emulator and it will have dual stick support

Mupepe · « **Reply #422 on:** June 07, 2012, 04:40:40 PM »

Quote from: Thomas Householmes Lane on June 07, 2012, 04:31:22 PM

thats not true Linkzg, my friend worked at the team working on the Emulator and it will have dual stick support

Your mom was talking about something else, bro.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #423 on:** June 07, 2012, 04:41:35 PM »

my mom works for nitnedo

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #424 on:** June 07, 2012, 05:36:46 PM »

Quote from: Linkzg on June 07, 2012, 04:20:39 PM

Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on June 06, 2012, 03:29:42 PM
Quote from: Linkzg on June 06, 2012, 02:13:56 PM
PS1 games on Vita appear to be running through the PSP's PS1 emulator

uh, so no dual stick?

no dual stick. no single stick. no R2/3&L2/3 mapped to back touchpad. and allegedly Sony's rolling them out on a timely basis, meaning like PSP games, some PS1 games will be incompatible until a later date.

Sony, folks.

If that's true, I'm rageselling my Vita.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #425 on:** June 07, 2012, 05:44:50 PM »

That would seriously, seriously suck to the point of me selling Vita in a fit of rage.

Edit: Goddammit Joe.

Himu · « **Reply #426 on:** June 07, 2012, 05:45:52 PM »

ahahahahahaha

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #427 on:** June 07, 2012, 05:48:08 PM »

I speak for the people.

Takao · « **Reply #428 on:** June 07, 2012, 06:18:19 PM »

Anyone find it weird that Sony were able to get JK Rowling for Wonderbook, but not Sorcery? I think if her name was attached, and it somehow was a part of the HP universe people would actually buy it.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #429 on:** June 07, 2012, 06:22:25 PM »

apparently shes picky with licencing and only licences what she thinks are good products

Huff · « **Reply #430 on:** June 07, 2012, 06:48:02 PM »

Quote from: Thomas Householmes Lane on June 07, 2012, 06:22:25 PM

apparently shes picky with licencing and only licences what she thinks are good products

based on past HP games she has terrible taste

Takao · « **Reply #431 on:** June 07, 2012, 06:57:11 PM »

Yeah, I'm fairly certain Sorcery's a better game than most Harry Potter ones, lol.

cool breeze · « **Reply #432 on:** June 07, 2012, 11:35:10 PM »

Quote from: Thomas Householmes Lane on June 07, 2012, 04:31:22 PM

thats not true Linkzg, my friend worked at the team working on the Emulator and it will have dual stick support

I hope so. What's at E3 is the PSP's PS1 emulator.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #433 on:** June 07, 2012, 11:37:42 PM »

Quote from: Takao on June 07, 2012, 06:57:11 PM

Yeah, I'm fairly certain Sorcery's a better game than most Harry Potter ones, lol.

The first one with the open Hogwarts (Goblet of Fire?) was great.

maxy · « **Reply #434 on:** June 08, 2012, 04:15:06 AM »

PS4 specs leak
http://www.psx-sense.nl/89207/exclusief-talloze-informatie-over-de-playstation-4-inclusief-specificaties/
google translate

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The hardware
If something is a goal for me was that it was getting hold of a photograph of the PlayStation 4 itself, but this is sadly failed. The PlayStation 4 is still only on paper but a console for developers and only a select few people know how the device actually really look like. Sony also find it not necessary to the looks of the PS4 to share with developers, because here they simply have nothing. Of course, Sony then also a good point, but this is obviously bad for us.
What I have got is a very comprehensive document on the specifications of the PlayStation 4. Thus, the PlayStation 4 AMD Fusion APU get with the CPU and GPU sit together on the same chip. The code name for this chip is 'Liverpool' According developers would chip in "real talk" over 10x longer than that of the PS3 can. It would be a quad-core AMD x86 CPU running at 3.2GHz which contain the code name 'Steamroller' know. The GPU is an ATI r10xx at 800MHz with 1843 GFLOPS, this is code-named "Tahiti." This chip is also include on AMD Radeon HD 7970, both chips (CPU and GPU) are 28nm processors.

In terms of memory, there is much uncertainty with the PlayStation 4, as was the initial plan for Sony 2GB unified memory in the machine to stop. This is still only a point for discussion and developers ask whether this really can be brought up to 4GB, these choices are viewed by Sony. For comparison, the Wii you would to contain 1.5 GB of memory.
In terms of disc drive the PlayStation 4 will again be equipped with Blu-Ray, the space offers a Blu-Ray disc (50GB) is in fact still remains enough and so we use this technology. The back of the PS4 you will have a HDMI 1.4 port to put in and it will have a maximum output of 1080 and not the aforementioned 2048p.
In total, during the launch two PlayStation 4 are available, both are only equipped with a hard drive larger than 320GB. In terms of bundles, there are no concrete plans at Sony. What the exact difference between the two we do not know, but this is probably just the hard drive size. Also, the PS4 will have a special place for patches, OS etc this is stored on an internal 16 GB of flash storage.

Apparently these are true*,except for 7970 part

One chip only---APU(GPU+CPU)
Quad-core AMD x86 CPU running at 3.2GHz---"SteamRoller"
7850/70 like GPU---800MHz,1152 SPU,1843GFLOPS
2GB RAM
16GB onboard Flash

*early target specs

maxy · « **Reply #435 on:** June 08, 2012, 04:32:58 AM »

Apparently Xbox 3 is some kind of 8GB RAM insanity.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #436 on:** June 08, 2012, 04:38:31 AM »

On board flash = hope you like buying proprietary storage!

maxy · « **Reply #437 on:** June 08, 2012, 04:40:29 AM »

HDD is mentioned here but I bet there will be some 16GB flash only sku(like 360 arcade)

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #438 on:** June 08, 2012, 04:55:09 AM »

wow, 8GB of ram, maybe it can run Photoshop CS6

maxy · « **Reply #439 on:** June 08, 2012, 05:02:52 AM »

Quote from: Borys on June 08, 2012, 04:53:12 AM

Quote from: maxy on June 08, 2012, 04:32:58 AM
Apparently Xbox 3 is some kind of 8GB RAM insanity.

Wow how weak. PS4 has 20GB

maxy · « **Reply #440 on:** June 08, 2012, 05:21:17 AM »

Yes and No.

That was meant for developers,shown at GDC.I'm sure people would be much more impressed if Epic made UE4 Samaritan like demo.

Square demo was more impressive from a gamer standpoint.

maxy · « **Reply #441 on:** June 08, 2012, 01:43:13 PM »

Site that leaked WiiU specs few days ago claims this

http://www.vgleaks.com/world-exclusive-ps4-in-deep-first-specs/

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In exclusive we have the detailed first specs (not final) for PS4, most likely first alpha kits sent to developers:

TLDR SPECS

CPU

4 core (2 core pairs) 3.2 GHz AMD x86 (Steamroller)
aggregate, 10x PS3 PPU performance
512 KByte L2 per core pair
64 bit pointers

GPU

AMD R10x series GPU @ 800 MHz (Tahiti)
aggregate 10x RSX performance, 1.84 TFlops
DX”11.5″
cheap branching
18 compute units, focus on fine grained compute & tessellation

MEMORY:

2 GByte UMA, pushing for 4 GByte
192 GByte/ sec non-coherent access for e.g. GPU
12 GByte/ sec coherent access for CPU
>50% longer memory latency for CPU/ GPU compared to PC!!!
DXT is lowest bpp texture compression format

MEDIA:

50 GByte BD drive
PCAV, between 3.3 and 8x BD, most likely clamped to 6x
automatic background caching to HDD
HDD SKU with at least 380 GByte
downloadable games

EXTRA HARDWARE:

video encoder/ decoder
audio processing unit, ~200 concurrent MP3 streams
HW zlib decompressor

Our source claims that the final specs should be 10x powerful than PS3, due to this info has got 10 months.

Takao · « **Reply #442 on:** June 08, 2012, 01:45:18 PM »

I will be sad for the day in 2015 when Sony files for bankruptcy.

maxy · « **Reply #443 on:** June 08, 2012, 01:49:19 PM »

Nothing outrageous here.

PS Vita number 2

D3RANG3D · « **Reply #444 on:** June 08, 2012, 02:08:34 PM »

599 US dollars

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #445 on:** June 08, 2012, 02:48:03 PM »

Ugh at those specs

There goes BC

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #446 on:** June 08, 2012, 02:59:16 PM »

The Samsung Playstation 5

Bebpo · « **Reply #447 on:** June 08, 2012, 05:04:54 PM »

The gaf thread on those specs changed to lower specs at some point and now the rumor is that PS4 is going to be a bit underpowered to make $299 launch. Good for sales, but bad for 8 year console cycle

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #448 on:** June 08, 2012, 05:06:55 PM »

won't matter, everyone's just going to stream everything after this next cycle, anyway

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #449 on:** June 08, 2012, 05:23:13 PM »

for people who arent nerds whats so bad about those specs

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #450 on:** June 08, 2012, 05:53:13 PM »

2GB of RAM is super fail. Especially considering the WiiU has nearly the same amount of RAM. But I guess you have to account for the system as a whole and the cost involved but is should be 4GB minimum.

Bebpo · « **Reply #451 on:** June 08, 2012, 05:55:49 PM »

Well they screwed up the ram with the PS3, so I wouldn't be surprised if it happens again with the PS4.

I really don't have faith in Sony to pull off a more powerful system than the Next Xbox. I figure the graphics divide will be like this gen with Xbox games having better AA/IQ and framerate.

choco parfait · « **Reply #452 on:** June 08, 2012, 10:11:23 PM »

While those "dev rumors" do say the Durango is a pleasure to develop for, and that's why developers are rooting for the Xbox again next round, there's definitely no way it would match anywhere near the PS4 specs if the PS4 really is planning to be 10x the PS3.

Perhaps Sony realized they'll never beat MS on the software finesse side and just chose to solve their problems with brute power over the competition.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #453 on:** June 09, 2012, 12:06:53 AM »

Quote from: choco parfait on June 08, 2012, 10:11:23 PM

While those "dev rumors" do say the Durango is a pleasure to develop for, and that's why developers are rooting for the Xbox again next round, there's definitely no way it would match anywhere near the PS4 specs if the PS4 really is planning to be 10x the PS3.

Perhaps Sony realized they'll never beat MS on the software finesse side and just chose to solve their problems with brute power over the competition.

how did that work out last time

599 US dollars remixxxxxx

maxy · « **Reply #454 on:** June 09, 2012, 06:36:44 AM »

Quote from: choco parfait on June 08, 2012, 10:11:23 PM

While those "dev rumors" do say the Durango is a pleasure to develop for, and that's why developers are rooting for the Xbox again next round, there's definitely no way it would match anywhere near the PS4 specs if the PS4 really is planning to be 10x the PS3.

Perhaps Sony realized they'll never beat MS on the software finesse side and just chose to solve their problems with brute power over the competition.

10xPS3 is pretty easy thing to get these days
also PS4 will be x86(PC) based---can't get much easier than that

Momo · « **Reply #455 on:** June 09, 2012, 07:49:16 AM »

Quote from: BlueTsunami on June 08, 2012, 05:53:13 PM

2GB of RAM is super fail. Especially considering the WiiU has nearly the same amount of RAM. But I guess you have to account for the system as a whole and the cost involved but is should be 4GB minimum.

Really depends on the type of ram

maxy · « **Reply #456 on:** June 09, 2012, 09:56:05 AM »

512MB will probably be hijacked for OS purposes.

Owl-faced Wizard · « **Reply #457 on:** June 09, 2012, 10:55:50 AM »

hd mii parades take up a lot of ram, probably more like 1gb

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #458 on:** June 09, 2012, 02:25:09 PM »

im still pissed that there was no ps3 price drop

Takao · « **Reply #459 on:** June 09, 2012, 03:06:33 PM »

Quote from: TheInfelicitousDandy on June 09, 2012, 02:25:09 PM

im still pissed that there was no ps3 price drop

Gamescom is when Sony introduces lower prices.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #460 on:** June 09, 2012, 03:07:40 PM »

what/when is that?

Momo · « **Reply #461 on:** June 09, 2012, 03:11:30 PM »

A video game trade show held in germany around august

demi · « **Reply #462 on:** June 11, 2012, 10:10:06 AM »

Quote from: TheInfelicitousDandy on June 09, 2012, 02:25:09 PM

im still pissed that there was no ps3 price drop

They're like $200 now. Get a job.

maxy · « **Reply #463 on:** June 11, 2012, 12:51:14 PM »

Quote from: Borys on June 11, 2012, 09:24:31 AM

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PS4 architecture by sfags.

Not enough whimsy,Nintendo wins.

sorry sfags

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #464 on:** June 11, 2012, 08:25:07 PM »

Thinking about it, that much GDDR5 must be expensive en masse

Trent Dole · « **Reply #465 on:** June 11, 2012, 10:58:03 PM »

Quote from: BlueTsunami on June 11, 2012, 08:25:07 PM

Thinking about it, that much GDDR5 must be expensive en masse

Like that gif says, $699 retail price with Move as the primary controller.

Takao · « **Reply #466 on:** June 11, 2012, 11:21:26 PM »

Quote from: Borys on June 11, 2012, 09:24:31 AM

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PS4 architecture by sfags.

I don't understand why someone would waste that much time trying to figure out the base design for fake specs.

Trent Dole · « **Reply #467 on:** June 11, 2012, 11:22:17 PM »

Well they don't have any games to play so they gotta do something, right?

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Author Topic: Sony Conference featuring fake Juno and real Juno (tl;dr "vita? what's that?") (Read 41445 times)