15 years ago, the best album of the 90's came out

[DCharlieJP]

yup - i'm glad i saw them for sure.

Pulp were one of those bands that i think i appreciated after the fact

Also - this :

Massively underrated dark UK animated comedy + Cumbrian cartoon character + Pulp's Sunrise + spacehoppers with dicks ....

[Mr. Gundam]

I really dug Mansun. Put out two stellar records before going to crap and then breaking up.

[DCharlieJP]

a lot of bands in that 90s bracket came out of nowhere then crawled away :/

[Trent Dole]

a lot of bands in that 90s bracket came out of nowhere then crawled away :/

Would you rather they just hung around and put out crap records forever like say Marilyn shithead Manson? The quality to garbage ratio goes up more and more in favor of the garbage side the longer a band exists generally. I guess since my name is nails inspired I'm supposed to say TDS or Fragile is the best '90s album but there's so much cool shit from that decade that I don't really care exactly what is at the very top of people's lists. Could maybe try to argue Broken as the best Ep but Jar of Flie is also a '90s thing and fucking amazing to this day so welp!

[DCharlieJP]

Would you rather they just hung around and put out crap records forever like say Marilyn shithead Manson? The quality to garbage ratio goes up more and more in favor of the garbage side the longer a band exists generally. I guess since my name is nails inspired I'm supposed to say TDS or Fragile is the best '90s album but there's so much cool shit from that decade that I don't really care exactly what is at the very top of people's lists. Could maybe try to argue Broken as the best Ep but Jar of Flie is also a '90s thing and fucking amazing to this day so welp!

well, it's an interesting one - everyone runs into the "bad album" at some point. No one needs to be around forever, but a good 3-4 albums worth of stuff should be possible.

Cases that jump to mind :

The Family Cat - released best album "Magic Happens" - then disbanded, reformed as two bands
Nyack - released great album - disbanded
Catherine Wheel - good album, great album, average album, poor album... disbanded
Gene - released great first album - rest turgid
Puressence - released good album, then incredible album, then great album, then average album, then good album...
Underworld - zomg followed by zomg followed by zomg followed by zomg followed by zomg ....
Orbital - zomg , zomg, great... , um what... ughhh... disbanded.... reformed with great album

So yeah - i guess the whole "tricky third album" tends to be the common thing but it's not entirely hard and fast.

Also - i was a huge NiN fan back in the day but i sort of fell of - TDS was okay, but FDS was the step that made me lose interest basically. Stangely enough - whilst i loved Broken and PHM the EP that really hooked me in was Fixed (of all things!)

I'm aware that's somewhat controversial but there was something about Fixed that i HATED at first but grew to really enjoy.

But yeah - the 90s is an insanely stupid list of riches in terms of music.

[Human Snorenado]

NiN peaked with Broken, PHM was awesome as well.  Once he had beaten his old record company and was successful it just took all the piss out of him.  Flashes of good stuff here and there but by and large since Broken it's been meh.

[Human Snorenado]

Also, glad to see some dubnobasswithmyheadman appreciation up in hurr.

[DCharlieJP]

Also, glad to see some dubnobasswithmyheadman appreciation up in hurr.

dubnobass is incredible - and has two of my favourite tracks by any artists -ever- back to back : Dirty Epic --> Cowgirl

Underworld are incredible - though as mentioned in the other music thread in a recent interview Karl mentioned "we can't live on Cowgirl ... the people clubbing today have never heard of it and we want to get back on the dance floor"

I made a pffffff sound and then looked at the date on Cowgirl.... #myoldballs .... so yeah... i actually wonder how much Underworld have left in them what with Rick being pretty sick and their branching into soundtracks and, wibble, the Olympic Opening Ceremony that they are running in conjunction with Danny Boyle (!!!!!)

[Robo]

First post nailed it AFAIC, but I might give it to "In the Aeroplane Over the Sea" on odd days of the week.  Still gives me chills.

Also: Loveless, Wowee Zowee, Illmatic, Dummy, Mezzanine, Siamese Dream, Time out of Mind, In Utero, Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space, etc, etc.

Not TOOL, not ever.

[Human Snorenado]

First post nailed it AFAIC, but I might give it to "In the Aeroplane Over the Sea" on odd days of the week.  Still gives me chills.

Also: Loveless, Wowee Zowee, Illmatic, Dummy, Mezzanine, Siamese Dream, Time out of Mind, In Utero, Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space, etc, etc.

Not TOOL, not ever.

I agree with this post!  You sir are a veritable avatar of good taste.   

[Himu]

has there ever been a band with a more apt name than Tool

[Phoenix Dark]

Tool hater lol. We gonna pretend like Ænima isn't an amazing album just because of a bunch of dumbass hardcore fans? 

[Momo]

You guys act like Maynard James cut off your dicks

[Human Snorenado]

In order to even think any of that shit, you have to be a tool fan.  I just think they blow, sorry dudes.  It's like, even a shame they're Bill Hicks fans.

[Momo]

When I think Tool bass I think Prison Sex, Forty Six and Two, H and Parabola



Like the sequence  from 3:00 to the end I love

[Positive Touch]

this thread is now worse than an icp appreciation thread, congrats

[tiesto]

Was an awesome decade to be an EDM fan in:

Sasha - Xpander EP
Sasha and Digweed - Renaissance: The Mix Collection (the first big DJ mixcomp ever)
The Orb - The Orb's Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld
The Orb - UFOrb
Daft Punk - Homework
Underworld - Dubnobasswithmyheadman
Underworld - Second Toughest of the Infants
Oakenfold - Tranceport (when he was at his prime)
LTJ Bukem ‎– Logical Progression
DJ Shadow - Endtroducing
Massive Attack - Mezzanine
Way Out West ‎– Way Out West
Prodigy - The Prodigy Experience
Chemical Brothers - Dig Your Own Hole
Crystal Method - Vegas
Faithless - Reverence
Danny Tenaglia - Tourism
Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works
Orbital - Brown Album

[Human Snorenado]

The problem with Tool is that they're wankers who make music for wankers.  Everyone who isn't a Tool fan knows what I'm talking about.

[Human Snorenado]

Teatsow-san, Blue Lines and Protection are both superior to Mezzanine in everything but production values.

[Mr. Gundam]

The problem with Tool is that they're wankers who make music for wankers.  Everyone who isn't a Tool fan knows what I'm talking about.

I remember being yelled at by some guy in high school because I didn't like Tool. Dude tried to lecutre me on the godliness of their drummer.

[Momo]

The problem with Tool is that they're wankers who make music for wankers.  Everyone who isn't a Tool fan knows what I'm talking about.

see i dont get this. I'm not exposed to other music fans (by choice) regularly so i'm not privy to fan bullshit, gossip and all whatever other shittiness you guys refer to. I love Tool's music, without whatever other bullshit is attributed to it.

Also Bill Hicks <3 :'(

[Robo]

Just saw them Friday, before the whole stage collapse. :'(

Was an awesome show

Your seats were a hell of a lot better than mine.  I forgot to bring my binoculars. 

[Robo]

Nah, I saw them in DC a couple weeks ago.  Couldn't get anything through WASTE, so we had to settle for seats opposite the stage on the other side of the arena.  None of us had ever seen them before or we wouldn't have even considered sitting so far away.  It's practically no different from paying top dollar to watch a concert DVD.

[nice cat but chicken]

op is a pretty safe choice. not a bad one by any stretch. radiohead will never come to new zealand so i must leave.
i think i would probably choose laughing stock by talk talk though, it is perfect after all.


not yet mentioned but should be and honorably so:
-adventures in stereo - s/t
-tiesto said selected ambient works but also everything else by aphex in the 90s
-basic channel - s/t
-depeche mode - violator
-don caballero - what burns never returns
-keith - dr. doom/octagon
-gas - s/t
-gravediggaz - six feet deep
-odb - return to the 36 chambers
-primal scream - xtrmntr
-prince - emancipation 
-rhythm & sound - showcase
-scott walker - tilt
-slint - spiderland
-smog - red apple falls/julius caesar/wild love
-studio 1 - s/t

musically the 90s were superlative but there's no point discounting any period of time. except the 40's, but that wasn't their fault.

[Himu]

the 40's had bebop and blues. so you're wrong about the 40's.

[The Sceneman]

60s and 70s were very bad

[Momo]

Also Stone Temple Pilots <3

[CajoleJuice]

the last concert i went to was a tool concert 

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I like Depeche Mode.  This might be a shameful confession but I like the Pet Shop Boys as well.

[Shadow Mod]

I like Depeche Mode.  This might be a shameful confession but I like the Pet Shop Boys as well.

Who doesn't like Depeche Mode?

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I like Depeche Mode.  This might be a shameful confession but I like the Pet Shop Boys as well.

Who doesn't like Depeche Mode?

Apparently Awesome-O/Green Shinobi/Puddles.

[Shadow Mod]

Bad taste confirmed.

[BobFromPikeCreek]

wrong thread

[Eric P]

I like Depeche Mode.  This might be a shameful confession but I like the Pet Shop Boys as well.

pet shop boys is probably the best, most overlooked pop duo of the past 30 years.

period.

[nice cat but chicken]

yeah people are afraid to like the pet shop boys, i don't think many people know their stuff even.
i do know a lot of 30+ males who will happily admit that west end girls is one of the best songs ever.
surprised Sceneman hasn't piped up re: psb love.

also:

the 40's had bebop and blues. so you're wrong about the 40's.

you're right. my bad

and:

60s and 70s were very bad

gtfo

[nice cat but chicken]

haha. it's not their fault! it was 1997!
it's still not as bad as most contemporary records.
if you're a fan of dynamic range you should definitely listen to Laughing Stock (full album first post this page)
thread has inspired me to listen to OKC for the first time in years.

[nice cat but chicken]

i don't know, i can usually listen through contemporary mastering standards or just terrible recordings to the songs themselves but yeah sometimes these things are definitely a hindrance to enjoyment.
what're your favourite, most dynamic albums?

i'm listening to exit music (for a film) now and it's actually fairly tolerable. but i remember that's it's gonna go totally square in about a minute.

[nice cat but chicken]

all he means is that the album is uniformly loud which many consider to deliver a fatiguing listening experience.
when cds first came on the market the average volume of a cd was -18dBFS but by the 90's people were pushing it as close to 0 as they could. doing this necessitates a bunch of compression/limiting which decreases the amplitudinal difference between the quietest and loudest sounds.
albums with more dynamic range are often percieved as being more powerful because the "loud" parts feel loud. many contemporary albums are an assault from start to finish with no respite.
i wouldn't be surprised if most people these days are used to this to the extent that they expect and enjoy it.

[Van Cruncheon]

tool's aenima? i agree

[etiolate]

Needs to be more Pearl Jam in this thread

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Pearl Jam sucks.  Sorry.

[Human Snorenado]

I'd give OK COMPUTER a listen if it wasn't so fucking loud.

Fuck that shit.

HOW AUTISTIC?

SOOOOO AUTISTIC

[Human Snorenado]

Also, PSB are one of the best groups ever.  West End Girls is an absolute masterpiece without peer.  Turning that on right now.

[The Sceneman]

I saw PSB live in 2007, was one of the defining moments of my life. Love Comes Quickly is my fave PSB song, but they have tons of good ones.

[Phoenix Dark]

I'd give OK COMPUTER a listen if it wasn't so fucking loud.

Fuck that shit.

Turn the volume down?

Doesn't work like that.

Thank fucking god jazz and classical CD's aren't bothered with this shit, so at least I have that. Can you imagine classical music with loudness? el oh el

A master at his craft. Bless this man

[Robo]

Ruzbeh 

Triple-AAA threadshitting.

[tiesto]

I like Depeche Mode.  This might be a shameful confession but I like the Pet Shop Boys as well.

pet shop boys is probably the best, most overlooked pop duo of the past 30 years.

period.

I'd say Scritti Politti is up there too. PSB fared pretty well in the club scene though...

[ferrarimanf355]

Homogenic>OK Computer

This is unpossible, because Post>Homogenic, and Ok Computer > Post

Homogenic was the better album compared to Post. Just my two cents.
I'd put Post on par with Debut.

[Robo]

http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/details.php?id=1246

http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/details.php?id=3215

 

[recursivelyenumerable]

I actually think OK Computer sounds better now because it's "dated".