Final Fantasy 7 remake to never get released

[magus]

http://andriasang.com/con1ny/wada_on_ffvii_remake/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

well this sure lift a weight from my soul ^____________^

[Himu]

no one cares

[Momo]

I just want a Final Fantasy Minigame collection
-Non shit chocobo racing
-Tetra Master
-Triple Triad
-Blitzball (with a story mode like Captain Tsubasa)

[archnemesis]

^^ Have you played Inazuma Eleven? It feels a bit like blitzball. There is a standalone version of Triple Triad for PC.

[frod]

I like to laugh at the old gameplay footage on youtube.

[Momo]

^^ Have you played Inazuma Eleven? It feels a bit like blitzball. There is a standalone version of Triple Triad for PC.

The Triple Triad for PC was fan coded stuff though wasnt it? And yes im aware of Inazuma Eleven, doesnt come close to Captain Tsubasa though

[Himu]

make a triple triad game where you go across the world getting cards ff8 style and the final boss is some card master or some shit.

[archnemesis]

Yep, Triple Triad PC is a fan project.

[magus]

^^ Have you played Inazuma Eleven? It feels a bit like blitzball. There is a standalone version of Triple Triad for PC.

The Triple Triad for PC was fan coded stuff though wasnt it? And yes im aware of Inazuma Eleven, doesnt come close to Captain Tsubasa though

dude what the hell? there isn't anything that come closer to captain tsubasa than inazuma eleven,which is the whole reason that shit is popular in the first place

if anything the problem it's that is just a sort of boring game
you might be interessed in this maybe but it's an european release only,captain tsubasa is super popular here in europe



actualy i don't think it even feature english

make a triple triad game where you go across the world getting cards ff8 style and the final boss is some card master or some shit.

i played an interessing rpgmaker game once, because somehow the guy that made it was able to put a triple triad clone inside it,i didn't even think that sort of shit was possible with rpgmaker in the first place

Yep, Triple Triad PC is a fan project.

there was a playable version of tetramaster on squaresoft online service but that was 2 years ago

[Himu]

tetramaster sucks. they put that game on Playonline back in the day, but Tetramaster sucks dick so who would play it?

[magus]

tetramaster sucks. they put that game on Playonline back in the day, but Tetramaster sucks dick so who would play it?

feh it's the same shit of placing cards with higher number to take card with lower numbers once you learn to play it,if anything the problem is "ehy dude want to play this game of which i don't know the rules?"

[Himu]

tetramaster sucks because its rules are inconsistent

[magus]

the rules aren't inconsistent,it's just that the game doesn't explain them (and actualy seems proud of this fact like a distinguished mentally-challenged puppy) and there is a bit of randomness to it which just makes thing even more confusing,personaly it's still less chaotic than some of the shit that can happen in triple triad when all the rules mix and you start having stuff like random,same rule,plus rule and the like

[Himu]

randomness does imply inconsistency

[bork]

During the Q&A session of the company's annual shareholder's briefing (transcribed here), Wada was asked the expected question about the much wanted remake. His response was something to the effect of, we'll make a Final Fantasy VII remake once we've made a Final Fantasy game that exceeds the quality of FFVII.

If you get the feeling that this statement belittles Square Enix's current development prowess, you're pretty much spot on. Wada admitted that at present, the company is not making Final Fantasy games that exceed the quality of FFVII. If they were to release a 7 remake right now, the FF franchise would be done with, he said.

 

[magus]

nah randomness is cool,i wouldn't call any game that feature a roll dice inconsistent

[Robo]

During the Q&A session of the company's annual shareholder's briefing (transcribed here), Wada was asked the expected question about the much wanted remake. His response was something to the effect of, we'll make a Final Fantasy VII remake once we've made a Final Fantasy game that exceeds the quality of FFVII.

If you get the feeling that this statement belittles Square Enix's current development prowess, you're pretty much spot on. Wada admitted that at present, the company is not making Final Fantasy games that exceed the quality of FFVII. If they were to release a 7 remake right now, the FF franchise would be done with, he said.

 

  Borys

[Sho Nuff]

Wada-San, cold as ice

Imperial Hot droppin troof bombs

[Momo]

dude what the hell? there isn't anything that come closer to captain tsubasa than inazuma eleven,which is the whole reason that shit is popular in the first place

Blitzball is closer. Inazuma despite sharing similar themes and the same damn sport feels like something else. Also that DS game is garbage, let me fill you in on the Tsubasa I speak of

[Trent Dole]

People JO over vii a bit more than is healthy.

[Raban]

I have a hard time believing that's what Wada really meant. It makes it sound like he's throwing the past 15 years of Final Fantasy under the bus. If that's what he honestly thinks, there isn't enough SMH in the world.

[Rahxephon91]

Don't really want  a remake. Want new FF with new worlds and stories. Besides, I think pretty much every FF after VII has been better then it. I don't hold VII in high places.

[Momo]

My ranking of posts VII games (direct sequels X-2 etc, XI, XIV and spinoffs excluded)

FFX
FFVIII
FFIX
FFXIII
FFXII

[Great Rumbler]

X-2
...
...
...
All the other FFs post-VII

[magus]

X-2
...
...
...
All the other FFs post-VII

BURN THIS INFIDEL

Don't really want  a remake. Want new FF with new worlds and stories. Besides, I think pretty much every FF after VII has been better then it. I don't hold VII in high places.

AND SEND HIM BACK TO DETROIT

[cool breeze]

we'll make a Final Fantasy VII remake once we've made a Final Fantasy game that exceeds the quality of FFVII.

done.

[Momo]

X-2
All the other FFs post-VII

BURN THIS INFIDEL

If you are just into battle systems, it's hard to argue against x-2

[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

doesn't almost anything exceed the quality of FFVII, including other Square Enix RPG's from the era?

really, if we're going by that statement the first remake of FFVII should have been out by 2000/2001

[Sho Nuff]

I doubt you'll ever see anything of the same scope again. You realize that the entire company was working on FF7 at once, and nearly every CG company in Tokyo was doing cinematics for it.

It's kind of like Akira, where they bet the farm on it and employed almost every animation studio in Japan. It ain't gonna happen again.

[Stoney Mason]

FF 7 was the right game. At the right time in history. On the right platform. On the right storage format. And the media all got behind the game. And it had a mammoth marketing effort behind it.

Those stars are very unlikely to ever align again in that way.

[Diunx]

8,12 and 10-2 are already better.

[magus]

I doubt you'll ever see anything of the same scope again. You realize that the entire company was working on FF7 at once, and nearly every CG company in Tokyo was doing cinematics for it.

It's kind of like Akira, where they bet the farm on it and employed almost every animation studio in Japan. It ain't gonna happen again.

i just want moar jrpg with a kickass team of artist

basicaly bravely default

i could go on a rant why i like 7 the most but none of you guys care so everybody who disagree,CURSE UPON YOU

[tiesto]

8,12 and 10-2 are already better.

 
Worst game of the series aside from the online ones.

[SantaC]

Fuck off remakes, ports and remasters. Yeah even the FF7 PC one.

Give me NEW FF games any day. Give me FF13-3. Give me FFversus13. Give me FF15.

give me FF8-2

[Himu]

8,12 and 10-2 are already better.

 
Worst game of the series aside from the online ones.

how in the world x-2 the worst?

[Momo]

People really dislike the whimsical j-pop adventures of Yuna and friends at the local mall dressing room. Most people I know are absolutely repulsed by the femininity of it all.

I don't give a flying fuck though, the game has an awesome, well crafted battle system. Sure it may not be innovative or whatever but that also means it didn't introduce turd mechanics. 

[Great Rumbler]

I liked X-2 because instead of being more melodramatic pap, it was just [mostly] a light-hearted adventure.

[Himu]

^

[tiesto]

People really dislike the whimsical j-pop adventures of Yuna and friends at the local mall dressing room. Most people I know are absolutely repulsed by the femininity of it all.

Yeah, that's the exact reason why *I* of all people hated the game 

I didn't like the asset re-use with very few new areas (even other games with heavy asset re-use like BKO and FFXIII-2 at least throw some new stuff into the mix), didn't particularly care for the way the game handled nonlinearity and its completion mechanic, and also found the balancing to be really off. The "Dark Knight" class is insanely OP. Also hated all the stupid minigames they made me do, not to mention the strange music.

[Himu]

FFX-2 has plenty new stuff. All the dungeons are new, even locations (kilika) have been entirely revamped, Mt Gagazet was completely redone, there's new cities, new interpretations of old cities. Complaining about asset resuse and how X-2 did it seems like you're reaching. The completion is weird, but that's seems like such a weird dig to label the game as the "worst" FF. Just don't bother with completion and enjoy the game? Dark Knight being op is an actual complaint? Every single FF since V has a billion ways to exploit the game. How is X-2 any different?

The minigames I'll give you, but X is far worse in that category.

Nothing in your post screams "worst" to me.

[recursivelyenumerable]

Square actually did make an official PC version of FF8's card game, it was included with something called "FF8 Desktop Accessories" full of screensavers and such.

Anyway FF9 card game >> FF8 card game. The random element just makes tactics more interesting since you have to make "contingency plans" in case you lose a card battle. In FF8 a stronger deck is pretty much guaranteed to win against a weaker one, which makes most matches boring, and the gameplay loop too often consists of scanning the numbers repeatedly to look for an opening, which is lame since it's the sort of thing a computer should be doing (Same/Plus rules make this even worse). FF9 you have to be on your toes even with a better deck, and you can also reach for a shutout where you get all the cards.

The cool thing about FF8's card game was how it was integrated into the game, with being able to card monsters, turn cards into items, and coolest of all, the "house rules" system. Unfortunately while the concept of the house rules system is an awesome idea, the actual rules sucked for the most part.

[magus]

well let me put it the other way... what makes X-2 good? the battle system is just a rehash of the job system,there is no actual plot to begin with as they spend all their time chasing monkeys,finding cactuar statues and selling concert tickets,when some plot happens it's mostly about nomura doing the lamest doronjo trio attempt ever and ultimately as tiesto said there isn't a lot of new stuff to see

so yeah it's just sort of a mediocre game which in the realm of final fantasy that equates to being probably the worst modern final fantasy (the honor of worst final fantasy ever goes to FF2 but ehy that's a kawazu game and it's pretty much impossible to do worse than that) to me it always feel like that people that like x-2 just are having a knee-jerk reaction to ffx... "LOOK IT'S NOT LINEAR! UNLIKE FFX! AH!"

I liked X-2 because instead of being more melodramatic pap, it was just [mostly] a light-hearted adventure.

having played tons of jrpg with character doing the Big No or rpg where the character whines that "taking human lives is wrong :'(" or one where everybody is like super racist i can understand this feeling (man i'm always thinking of different tales game am i?)

but having a non-plot with a bunch of non-event is not a good alternative either,if you want to play a light-hearted adventure,go play this



man i wish i could find a video of the boss battle with the bodybuilder which try to attack you by flexing his muscle's

[Himu]

Saying X-2's battle system is a rehash of III and V's job system takes away all of your credibility from that post and I have not read the rest of it. Revamped ATB, parrying enemy attacks, position, spells and abilities have a heat up cast time, being able to choose any ability you want for a job and learn it, at any time, dress sphere grids and dress sphere placement on said grids, not to mention in game job switching. That's without mentioning the endless amount of customization through the accessory system in combination with dress sphere grids, dress spheres, job abilities.

Saying FFX-2 is just regular ATB is probably the dumbest thing I've ever read from you.

[Himu]

Plus, I mean, complaining about re-using locales seems pretty dumb. What do you expect? X-2 to take place in a different world entirely? The entire complaint is a non-complaint because it is entirely inane. Oh no, I have to go to Luca again, why is this game re-using assets? Box says Final Fantasy X-2? I am stupid. The reason XIII-2 gets away with it is because it features a time travel story so they can AFFORD to introduce completely new locales.

And it's not like X-2 didn't have new stuff. Entire dungeons and locales are revamped. Camera angles are different. Zero of the locations from X are the same as they were in that game.

[magus]

man himuro you sound like a zelda kid when someone says to him that zelda has been the same shit since ever

all of these are super small addition nobody gives a fuck about,heck i could already learn any skill i wanted back in FFT and trust me i never tought "ooooooooohhhhh this is a huge difference that makes this whole thing feels totaly different"

Plus, I mean, complaining about re-using locales seems pretty dumb. What do you expect? X-2 to take place in a different world entirely? The entire complaint is a non-complaint because it is entirely inane. Oh no, I have to go to Luca again, why is this game re-using assets? Box says Final Fantasy X-2? I am stupid. The reason XIII-2 gets away with it is because it features a time travel story.

the game first chapter open in a new location,so i don't see what's wrong if i expect the rest of the game to follow suit
the real question should actualy be why it's only the first one that do so because heck if there were more i sure as hell don't remember them

i've said it several times and i'll say it once again,there is no point in rehash-sequels

[etiolate]

I wouldn't replay FF7 if it was free. I would replay FF9 though.

[Himu]

Yes, X-2's job system is the EXACT SAME THING AS Tactics'. Nothing new at all was brought to the table.

You must be fucking kidding me. Why do I even bother?

[Himu]

Also, for all of your love for original battles systems, how the hell do you like 7 so much? It is the most boring and standard of all FF battle systems.

[recursivelyenumerable]

and also broken!

[Himu]

Ah yes, it is really is broken. I am past understanding magus cognitive dissonance.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I think the best time to release a FF7 remake would have been 2005-2006, on the Pee Ass Pee at its peak.  I think it is too late now.

[naff]

FF VII was magus's first right? Same with me, and it's my favourite. I don't like it because it had a great battle system or anything. I was 11 or 12 and the characters, setting and theme were awesome. I will never experience an FF the same again, because I will never be that young and dumb again.

[D3RANG3D]

FF VII was magus's first right? Same with me, and it's my favourite. I don't like it because it had a great battle system or anything. I was 11 or 12 and the characters, setting and theme were awesome. I will never experience an FF the same again, because I will never be that young and dumb again.

It was my first FF but i still consider it doo doo.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

My first FF was FF6 on an SNES emulator

[Trent Dole]

IV here. Not really sure what it is about the characters/storyline of VII that still resonates with people so damn much.

[Himu]

VII was my first and it's almost at the bottom.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

IV here. Not really sure what it is about the characters/storyline of VII that still resonates with people so damn much.

It's the first Final Fantasy on a Sony manufactured device.

[Raban]

IV here. Not really sure what it is about the characters/storyline of VII that still resonates with people so damn much.

It's the first Final Fantasy on a Sony manufactured device.

I never thought about it in this way, but it explains everything. Goddamn Sony fanboys.

[Robo]

On the surface (which is about all the farther I'm willing to go with this discussion), it's probably the aesthetic and art direction that keeps people latched onto FF7, but a lot of the argument there applies to FF8, too—more science fiction than fantasy, "whimsy" not central to the design and tone, post-industrial towns, self-serious plot and principal characters.

[Great Rumbler]

On the surface (which is about all the farther I'm willing to go with this discussion), it's probably the aesthetic and art direction that keeps people latched onto FF7, but a lot of the argument there applies to FF8, too—more science fiction than fantasy, "whimsy" not central to the design and tone, post-industrial towns, self-serious plot and principal characters.

I wouldn't disagree with that, especially with the first chapter. Midgar really appeals to me from a design/art perspective, you're dealing with older characters who are more serious rather than plucky/bubbly, the main characters are TERRORISTS fighting an evil corporation, and the overall feel is rather dark and bleak.