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SantaC

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Why is Valve so popular again?
« on: June 28, 2012, 11:27:48 PM »
Atleast on gaf. With every bit of news they praise the hell out of valve. They could release Gabe's turd in a box and gaf would call it the greatest thing to mankind. For such an ambiguous company, why haven't they released more big games? Isn't their last big release like HL2 from 2004? I could be wrong.

Yeah I forgot about Steam, but it's a service and not a fucking game. Give me more AAA games instead.


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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2012, 11:37:51 PM »
Ep1, Ep2, Portal 1, Portal 2, L4D1, L4D2, TF2, DOTA, and Steam. They have a pretty stellar track record since they released HL2 and a high standard of quality.

Like the Pixar of the video game industry.*

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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2012, 11:38:33 PM »
For me personaly, I dont really give a crud about their games. Their games are not for me. I like them because the steam platform itself makes it easy for me to house my games, connect with friends playing the same thing, form communities around releases etc. tl;dr it's steam, not their poopy games

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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2012, 11:38:35 PM »
I think Valve are alright. The Half-Life series doesn't do much for me, but on the other hand I think Counter-Strike and Portal are amazing games.


List of games after 2004:
• 2005 - Day of Defeat: Source
• 2006 - Half-Life 2: Episode One
• 2007 - Half-Life 2: Episode Two
• 2007 - Team Fortress 2
• 2007 - Portal
• 2008 - Left 4 Dead
• 2009 - Left 4 Dead 2
• 2010 - Alien Swarm
• 2011 - Portal 2
• 2012 - Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
• 2012 - Dota 2

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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2012, 11:40:10 PM »
because gaben is our lord and savior
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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2012, 11:40:43 PM »
l4d 1 and 2 should have been one game, now they kind of killed that goose

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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2012, 11:45:44 PM »

Like the Pixar of the video game industry.*

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pixar never really were all that though :shh

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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2012, 03:48:48 AM »
because gaben is our lord and savior
Yeah. Successful morbidly obese fuck makes all the other fatty fat fats think they can have their own empire someday.
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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2012, 03:55:43 AM »
I've barely used Steam, but can tell it's obviously the shit. Case closed
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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2012, 03:56:17 AM »
Steam probably.
Releasing AAA game would require significant $$$ investment,so why bother when you have Steam?


As for gaf,
People like Steam and Valve(Steam) is seen as some competition to MS,that helps with sfags.I don't think ninthings care much about it.

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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2012, 03:59:48 AM »
if you dont like valve youre prolly a shitty person with bad taste in everything

do you not like buying games, how bout massively discounted ones
a company that still lets people mod their games in the year 2012
games that are fun to play and polished because they dont shit them out in a year (lol l4d2)

accept gaben into your heart

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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2012, 04:00:44 AM »
I don't think my heart is big enough, Viz.
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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2012, 04:08:41 AM »
I don't think my heart is big enough, Viz.
Buy an ultra large dlc hat and accept the gaben into it

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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2012, 04:11:46 AM »
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Himu

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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2012, 04:36:19 AM »
Ep1, Ep2, Portal 1, Portal 2, L4D1, L4D2, TF2, DOTA, and Steam. They have a pretty stellar track record since they released HL2 and a high standard of quality.

Like the Pixar of the video game industry.*

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they've had a great track record since HL1.
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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2012, 04:44:59 AM »
They could have only done HL, HL2, Portal and Portal 2 and they'd still be one of my favorite developers.  Toss in STEAM and it's pretty obvious. 

Of course, console dirtpersons just don't understand.  :smug
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Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2012, 04:55:26 AM »
Ep1, Ep2, Portal 1, Portal 2, L4D1, L4D2, TF2, DOTA, and Steam. They have a pretty stellar track record since they released HL2 and a high standard of quality.

Like the Pixar of the video game industry.*

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they've had a great track record since HL1.

You're right, but since our friend FantaC has been wondering what they've been up to since 2004, I thought those were sufficient.

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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2012, 06:02:10 AM »
cry moar please,hl1 is the only good half life game

no wonder germany run you over so quickly,you were too busy crying over spilled milk

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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2012, 06:22:36 AM »
HL2 is overrated in my opinion (still a good game, but not as good as HL1) but steam is pretty great, don't think you can handle an online games store much better.
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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2012, 07:01:26 AM »
HL2 is a decent game,had tons of fun playing it back in 2004(at 15 fps).But the sequel is long overdue.

Proper HL3 or bust,sorry Valve.
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archie4208

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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2012, 07:29:45 AM »
They make incredibly polished games.  (Even if you don't like the gameplay, you can't deny how much effort normally goes into their titles.)
They release free, significant, updates for their games for free (300 TF2 updates, Portal 2 map editor, L4D updates)
They don't actively try to fuck over their customers (Steam sales, Dota 2 having a F2P model that isn't a massive grindfest)
They provide things to service the community ala Steam Workshop (where people have been paid thousands of dollars for making hats) and Source Filmmaker (releasing the same tools they use to make their promos for free)
They actively listen to their community and release updates to appease to them.  (As an example:  Dota 2's in game voice chat was shit for the longest time, so they implemented a new codec that significantly improved the voice quality)

You don't have to like Valve games, but you have to admit they are one of the few bro devs in the industry.
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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2012, 07:57:53 AM »
the only problem with Valve are the manic faithfuls whose entire PC gaming hobby is dependent on what titles are available on Steam. they can't even be bothered to add non Steam titles to their vast gaming library because it doesn't count towards some trivial gameplay stats counter as if anyone other than themselves gives a shit about what titles they play. no one is impressed that you not only played Skyrim for 100 hours but also managed to squeeze five hours into Europa Universali 3 and even managed to boot up and play one of those indie title you bought for pennies during a bundle sale for nearly a full ten minutes.

other than that, Valve deserves all the praise they get.

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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2012, 07:58:58 AM »
plus they do things like releasing an entire machinima program, for free, just because they know people like doing that kind of thing

steam interface and store is still clunky bullshit, though
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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2012, 08:02:43 AM »
The Borys problem is that he is trying to justify his "favorite" company decisions by using MS.MS is following the scent of the money as they always were--nothing shocking there.

To me,it's very stupid to use MS(or any other) anti-consumer business decisions to justify competition action.

That is like saying that every country in the world should be like Polland :D

HL3 please
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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2012, 08:48:57 AM »
I like the Half Life games, and the Portal games, but the rest of their lineup doesn't do it for me. TF2 was OK I guess, thought Counterstrike looked dated even back in my college days. I still have never played a DOTA game nor do I have any inclination to, based on what I've heard.

Steam is pretty cool, though I prefer GOG. Maybe every country shouldn't be like Poland, but they can at least make their DL services as good as the Polish...

...great now this thread made me think of Polish women. BRB gotta go look up Eva Wyrwal pics again.
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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2012, 10:32:10 AM »
Because they make some of the most popular games we know?

Oh, its a SantaC thread.

I could be wrong, but havent they let external devs making lots of games for them? Do Valve actually have any internal dev teams anymore? If so, where the hell is Half-Life 3?

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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2012, 10:35:20 AM »
Because they make some of the most popular games we know?

Oh, its a SantaC thread.

I could be wrong, but havent they let external devs making lots of games for them?

No, they acquire external devs and then have them making games.
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« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2012, 10:47:56 AM »
Like, even if you aren't big on their games (I for one think HL2 is overrated despite being one of the greatest games I've played), how can you question a company like Valve that has won over SO MUCH good will from gamers over the years just by playing it nice and including a modicum of customer relations and support?
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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2012, 10:48:44 AM »
Because videogames.
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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2012, 10:49:37 AM »
man. nerds are the worst.
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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #30 on: June 29, 2012, 10:49:53 AM »
Yeaaah, their fans can be insufferable but at least they're fans of a company that's genuinely deserving of praise.
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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #31 on: June 29, 2012, 10:49:59 AM »
Personally, Counter Strike is the best fps of all time to me.
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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2012, 10:50:03 AM »
Why are blowjobs so popular again?
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« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2012, 10:51:14 AM »
I DUNNO, ROBO. I JUST DON'T KNOW.
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Himu

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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #35 on: June 29, 2012, 11:53:56 AM »
borys, i was going to send you a steam friend request last night and you haven't been on in 200 days dude. shut the fuck up
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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #36 on: June 29, 2012, 11:55:56 AM »
plus they do things like releasing an entire machinima program, for free, just because they know people like doing that kind of thing

steam interface and store is still clunky bullshit, though

see, this man has had 10x more steam issues than anyone else and he STILL likes valve
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« Reply #37 on: June 29, 2012, 12:16:43 PM »
the only problem with Valve are the manic faithfuls whose entire PC gaming hobby is dependent on what titles are available on Steam. they can't even be bothered to add non Steam titles to their vast gaming library because it doesn't count towards some trivial gameplay stats counter as if anyone other than themselves gives a shit about what titles they play. no one is impressed that you not only played Skyrim for 100 hours but also managed to squeeze five hours into Europa Universali 3 and even managed to boot up and play one of those indie title you bought for pennies during a bundle sale for nearly a full ten minutes.

other than that, Valve deserves all the praise they get.

yeah, some people see Steam as the only place to place to play PC games.  It's understandable since Steam streamline the whole process by automatically keeping games up to date, organizes everything, and having a community with friends and groups.  Ignoring games that aren't on steam can be a problem, though.

Personally, I choose GoG over Steam for older games, even if they cost a little more.  GoG games are DRM free and fix any compatibility issues.

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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #38 on: June 29, 2012, 12:19:20 PM »
borys, i was going to send you a steam friend request last night and you haven't been on in 200 days dude. shut the fuck up
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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #39 on: June 29, 2012, 12:24:42 PM »
I have a desura, steam, gog, origin and gamersgate account. I use each differently but if a game is on all these services I would get it on steam unless there is a linux version on desura. The only service i flat out refuse to use is impulse.

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« Reply #40 on: June 29, 2012, 12:36:58 PM »
Honestly I'm kinda wary of other services besides GoG and Steam.  I had a bunch of games with Direct2Drive, and when they were bought by Gamefly I lost 75% of them.  I'm not a 'Steam or bust' person, but I will certainly prefer Steam over any competing service.

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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #41 on: June 29, 2012, 02:00:36 PM »
Steam and GoG is a good combination. Origin is poopie of the highest order.
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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #42 on: June 29, 2012, 02:19:56 PM »
Steam and GoG is a good combination. Origin is poopie of the highest order.

Yep. I would purchase games elsewhere but most of the time there is no advantages over those two.
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« Reply #43 on: June 29, 2012, 02:24:21 PM »
Steam and GoG is a good combination. Origin is poopie of the highest order.

+ Blizzard digital store for me. But it's not like there are many games to buy on there.
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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #44 on: June 29, 2012, 02:45:07 PM »
Oh yeah, definitely a +1 on blizzard store, even if their support is the worst in the industry.

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« Reply #45 on: June 29, 2012, 03:57:29 PM »
Valve saved PC gaming- I will praise them
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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #46 on: June 29, 2012, 04:28:30 PM »
thats because nobody plays ps3 online.
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« Reply #47 on: June 29, 2012, 04:32:05 PM »
what in the fuck is psn, borys?
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« Reply #48 on: June 29, 2012, 04:40:57 PM »
Apparently some 3rd world online gaming service
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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #49 on: June 29, 2012, 04:44:35 PM »
what's the point of adding people on PSN? it's not like you can play games together or anything
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« Reply #50 on: June 29, 2012, 04:45:17 PM »
what in the fuck is psn, borys?

it's probably the facebook over there. polish social network.
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« Reply #51 on: June 29, 2012, 04:53:50 PM »
On a serious note, Borys, you should join us for some TF2 and shit. Hopefully Saints Row The Third is on sale during steam sale. We can play that together.
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« Reply #52 on: June 29, 2012, 05:03:56 PM »
what in the fuck is psn, borys?

it's probably the facebook over there. polish social network.

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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #53 on: June 29, 2012, 05:09:05 PM »
I don't have mad skills in TF2. I play multi fps slightly better than I do multi rts, which is to say, really bad. But I still have a lot of fun with it. Last night I got my score up to 30+ after not having played it in like 2 years.

I guess I'm not giving myself enough credit. I'm not bad at TF2, I'm just much better at support roles like Medic. But I tend to PREFER support roles so it's no biggie for me.
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« Reply #54 on: June 29, 2012, 05:10:11 PM »
himu i want to destroy you in company of heroes
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« Reply #55 on: June 29, 2012, 05:11:32 PM »
i got it installed bitch. come at me any time. wanna concentrate on finishing FFV before Jet Set Radio drops though. Whenever the hell that is.
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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #56 on: June 29, 2012, 06:01:51 PM »
Honestly I'm kinda wary of other services besides GoG and Steam.  I had a bunch of games with Direct2Drive, and when they were bought by Gamefly I lost 75% of them.  I'm not a 'Steam or bust' person, but I will certainly prefer Steam over any competing service.

Yeah, I lost a few games in the Gamefly takeover, too. Gamefly keeps sending me emails about PC sales, and I'm like "Why the fuck should I ever give you money, again?"
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« Reply #57 on: June 29, 2012, 06:43:25 PM »
That that was definitely the great way to immediately repulse quite a few potential customers.
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Re: Why is Valve so popular again?
« Reply #58 on: June 29, 2012, 06:55:45 PM »
Gamestop Impulse is hilarious, mostly cause they sell steam cards in Gamestop stores.
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« Reply #59 on: June 29, 2012, 06:59:55 PM »
Impulse was decent service on Stardock, but I haven't checked it in a long time. Do they still sell tons of a cheap-o Euro-RPGs made in RPG Maker?
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