Have you guys talked about Amazing SpiderMan yet?

[demi]

Can we talk about how absolutely retched this movie was? Again?

This is the one time I ever see a movie and I just wanna talk about how shitty it was.

[MrAngryFace]

You have to agree that Emma > Kirsten though

[MrAngryFace]

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I won't see this movie but Emma Stone can get it.

Emma > Snaggletooth

[demi]

Peter Parker's Pro Skater

[Huff]

more like peter parkour

[Himu]

I thought it was the best Spider-Man movie.

I thought they nailed both Peter and Spider-Man as characters. The old movies didn't feel like them in terms of personality.

[Momo]

In before long ass posts and arguing, just like in the movie thread

[Tasty]

SM2 > SM1 >= ASM > SM3

[demi]

I've never seen the Tobey movies. But after this I know they can't be as bad.

Chocolate Milk

YO MAN YOU CANT TAKE A PENNY, YOU HAVE TO SPEND $10

[MrAngryFace]

I liked the movie, but it's not like I cant see where he's coming from with his JOKES n such

[Himu]

The Tobey movies are way worse, barring Spider-Man 2 which is probably on par with it. Spider-Man 3 is wank, and Spider-Man 1 is kind of boring and doesn't feature the intense action of Amazing or its sequel, Spider-Man 2.

The thing about Tobey films is that Peter isn't really much of a science nerd, he doesn't build shit, he doesn't use his wits and combine that with Spider-Man. Spider-Man isn't some cocky guy who shoots out quirky one liners, either. THe films were good, and Tobey acted great, but it didn't FEEL like Spider-Man to me, aside from the web shooting and fighting off familiar villains.

But I really liked Amazing.

[demi]

Now this is the story all about how
My life got flipped, turned upside down
And I'd like to take a minute just sit right there
I'll tell you how I became the spider-man one day

In west New York born and raised
At the schoolground where I spent most of my days
Geeking out, maxing, relaxing all cool
And out shooting some photos outside of the school
When a couple of guys, they were up to no good
Broke into my parents house and started making trouble in my neighborhood
I saw one broken window and my mom got scared
And said "You're moving with your auntie and uncle in Bel-air"

[Himu]

Fuck now I wanna watch the 90's Spider-Man cartoon.

[MrAngryFace]

netflix streaming- get to it, but remember the deal- no spider splat- no hover-chair

[Himu]

Yeah I know it's on Netflix and I watched a shit ton of eps last year.

[MrAngryFace]

well what are you waiting for? do it again

[Momo]

SM2 > SM1 >= ASM > SM3

I thought you were an ultimate spiderman fan 

[Himu]

Are you shitting on Ultimate? I like Ultimate, I dunno. It's not BAD and at least it doesn't have shitty continuity!

[Momo]

Are you shitting on Ultimate? I like Ultimate, I dunno. It's not BAD and at least it doesn't have shitty continuity!

Animated Ultimate Spiderman universe Nova and Iron Fist are ultimate turds 

[Himu]

Oh. Thought you meant the comic

[Momo]

No, Andrex is more a fan of the animated universes, I doubt he follows many (any?) comic universes

[Tasty]

It doesn't help this movie was reportedly butchered in order to save the "WHO WERE PETER PARKER'S PARENTS?" plot for the second movie.

Seriously, look at what was cut:







Besides that, The Lizard just looked dumb:



The justification of "He needs to speak!" is so flimsy it got wafted out the air the first time he actually spoke. Why did he even need to speak? What did the Lizard say in this movie that was so damn important? "No parents. No uncle. All alone. POOR. PETER. PARKER!!!! RAAAAAAAAAARRRRGH!!" Oscar worthy stuff right there.

Smaller nitpicks: The score was also worse than Elfman's stuff. Mostly unremarkable; some good themes, but the main theme (played whenever Peter's father was mentioned) annoyed me. The ending tease was not hype-inducing in any way, no one yet has figured out who the mystery dude was, plus it's setting up the "WHO IS PETER PARKER'S FATHER??" thing which is just bleh. And why get hyped for the sequel anyways when it's the two hacks from Transformers writing it? Finally, I didn't like the suit, especially the eyes and sneakers.

I loved Andy. I'm on board with a Peter Parker and Spider-Man that are more like their comic versions. But this movie is not that great. Adequate at best, maybe even approaching good with the cut stuff put back in.

[Tasty]

SM2 > SM1 >= ASM > SM3

I thought you were an ultimate spiderman fan 

The show? God no.

I'm a big fan of Spectacular Spider-Man though, show was God-tier and up there with DC's best. Marvel's loss with Weisman is DC's gain though, and Young Justice has been utterly fantastic so far.

No, Andrex is more a fan of the animated universes, I doubt he follows many (any?) comic universes

Yeah, that's about true for the Marvel side. Comics-wise I try to read as much Batman as I can; Detective Comics, Batman, Batman & Robin, Nightwing... need to catch up on Catwoman, Batman Inc., Batman: The Dark Knight, and Red Hood though.

[MrAngryFace]

You can avoid the new 52 catwoman run- unless something changed since the first two issues- absolute crap

[Tasty]

You can avoid the new 52 catwoman run- unless something changed since the first two issues- absolute crap

Haven't heard great things about Red Hood either. Maybe I'll just read the Night of Owls tie-ins.

[Himu]

Who cares if all of that was cut. Look at that shit, would any of that had added anything at all to the movie? Why would Conner be talking to Spider-Man...in his LAIR? Without struggle? That makes NO SENSE.

As for the way Lizard looks? I thought it was a bad design myself, especially without his trademark lab coat for the bulk of the film, but that's such a nitpick I don't see how that makes the film as middling as you think it is.

[Himu]

You can avoid the new 52 catwoman run- unless something changed since the first two issues- absolute crap

Haven't heard great things about Red Hood either. Maybe I'll just read the Night of Owls tie-ins.

They both suck. Read Teen Titans if you want something like that up your alley. Other must reads: Action Comics, Batman (not Detective), Animal Man, Swamp Thing ,The Flash, Aquaman, Wonder Woman. I need to catch up as well.

[Tasty]

Who cares if all of that was cut. Look at that shit, would any of that had added anything at all to the movie? Why would Conner be talking to Spider-Man...in his LAIR? Without struggle? That makes NO SENSE.

I'm not saying it was or that the film is necessarily worse without it, but it did leave a LOT of things hanging (Peter being the Chosen One subplot and Raja, primarily.) I don't like the idea of Peter being Chosen but it would have given the movie it's own feel and reason for existing, other than making Sony a boatload of cash.

As for the way Lizard looks? I thought it was a bad design myself, especially without his trademark lab coat for the bulk of the film, but that's such a nitpick I don't see how that makes the film as middling as you think it is.

Just one nitpick on a mountain of many. The core of the film is solid yet bland, but take the small stuff into account it ends up being pretty mediocre.

[Himu]

Dunno how it's more bland than the past Spider-Man films?

[Tasty]

You can avoid the new 52 catwoman run- unless something changed since the first two issues- absolute crap

Haven't heard great things about Red Hood either. Maybe I'll just read the Night of Owls tie-ins.

They both suck. Read Teen Titans if you want something like that up your alley. Other must reads: Action Comics, Batman (not Detective), Animal Man, Swamp Thing ,The Flash, Aquaman, Wonder Woman. I need to catch up as well.

All caught up on Batman (finally), wanting to get into TT but Lobdell has seriously pissed me off with retconning Tim's Robin-age.

[Himu]

Eh, TT is great. JUST READ AN ISSUE.

I hope you're reading Action. Still my fave of the new reboot.

[demi]

Wow reading Andrex's link I had no idea half that stuff was actual scenes. Would have made the movie an actual movie. Instead we get Gwen Stacey and Peter Parker performing their version of Juno for 5 minutes. And the lack of Indian Evil Guy after the bridge was pretty funny. The non-followup of STAR WRIST MAN, and the possibility that Peter Parker may never be able to afford a $3 Chocolate Milk ever again.

[Tasty]

Dunno how it's more bland than the past Spider-Man films?

They were their own entities. I highly doubt The Lizard is going to be more iconic than Defoe's Green Goblin or Molina's Doc Ock.

Besides that, Raimi has visual and comedy flare that colored and suited the first two films well. ASM straddled the line between realistic and comicbooky and didn't pull off either that well, IMO.

[Tasty]

Eh, TT is great. JUST READ AN ISSUE.

I hope you're reading Action. Still my fave of the new reboot.

I guess I'll start now.

[Himu]

I haven't seen the first two films in so long that I'm probably going in this fight a bit prematurely.

[MrAngryFace]

Batwoman new 52 is omg

[Tasty]

I haven't seen the first two films in so long that I'm probably going in this fight a bit prematurely.

I ordered the trilogy on Blu-ray.

I've never been that kind to SM1 but after seeing ASM maybe I can put it in a new light.

Batwoman new 52 is omg

I keep forgetting that, like Batwing.

[Himu]

Amazing has to be better than 1, if my memory is right.

Batwoman is good MAF. Have to catch up. Batwing is so underrated.

[Momo]

Batwoman new 52 is omg

I seriously mark out and go all at that red hair

[Momo]

What week of new 52 are we up to now anyway? Last I read was week 39

[Tasty]

I forgot that I bought Batman Beyond 1-4 the other day, too. Hope they're good.

What week of new 52 are we up to now anyway? Last I read was week 39

There's week numbers?

Almost all of them are up to issue #11, September is #0 for everybody, then back to #12 in October.

[Momo]

Well since the start there has been X weeks of releases. I cant buy it legally because no one wants to take my money so i pirate then buy when it's available.  This is week 39 for example

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[Phoenix Dark]

Does Uncle Ben die in the movie?

[MrAngryFace]

IN this one he LIVES and becomes Spider-Old-Man

[Himu]

The lack of Harry was a huge mistake.

[demi]

I thought Harry was the guy getting picked on by Flash. I swear Peter said Harry.

[Great Rumbler]

[Himu]

I don't get it. I grew up reading those comics but were they reprints of old 60's Spider-man comics or new or what

[Tasty]

IN this one he LIVES and becomes Spider-Old-Man

And Aunt May becomes Carnage in the after-credits scene.

[Diunx]

Movie was awesome.

The kid rescue scene>>>> the entire Raimi trilogy.

[Bebpo]

I thought it was the best Spider-Man movie.

I thought they nailed both Peter and Spider-Man as characters. The old movies didn't feel like them in terms of personality.

This.

Everything that needs to be said.

/High-fives Himuro!

[Bebpo]

You know, I think my only complaint is what Oscar said above about how they did the Uncle Ben death and that a lot of the script feels like they just watched Batman Begins/Dark Knight a bunch of times and lifted elements from that.

I totally disagree with Oscar on them screwing up Conners, but then I'm not comparing it to his comic persona.

[Tasty]

Dylan Baker would have been the perfect Lizard.

What might have been...

[MrAngryFace]

IN this one he LIVES and becomes Spider-Old-Man

And Aunt May becomes Carnage in the after-credits scene.

That was THE BEST stupid movie rumor EVER

---

Also, I liked this movie. Its fun- there's some dumb stuff, ill grant anyone that, but the more I watch the first three spider-man movies the more I realize that these aren't movies I like all that much. I'm tired of Kirsten's horrible mary jane, I am tired of Toby's tears, I am tired of the HORRIBLE delivery of spider-banter, and while I appreciate screaming in Army of Darkness- it gets wayyy tiresome to see Mary Jane do nothing but. It felt like the first Burton Batman all over again.

Nitpicks include an entirely inconsistent soundtrack/score, stupid NEW YORK GITZ BEHIND SPIDER-MAN moment (I HATE this shit in these movies- its stupid feel good barf), emma stone never got naked, lizards head looked all weird- and they made me look at the weird head- stop it; its weird. that weird skateboard tony hawk training montage thing demi pointed out- its true; it seemed weird too.

ALL OF THESE THINGS considered, still more FUN than the original movies. I read my share of spider-man comics, but I dont give a shit about accuracy because THAT IS AN IMPOSSIBLE DREAM OF COMIC NERDS. Cite yer examples of the perfect comic book movies and i'll laugh- whatever...

[Eric P]

Cite yer examples of the perfect comic book movies and i'll laugh- whatever...

Punisher: War Zone

[Eel O'Brian]

that movie rocks even though it is sort of awful at the same time

you could tell ray stevenson was having a goddamned ball playing frank castle, it always makes the movie a little better when you can tell the actors are having fun

[Eric P]

that movie rocks even though it is sort of awful at the same time

you could tell ray stevenson was having a goddamned ball playing frank castle, it always makes the movie a little better when you can tell the actors are having fun

pretty much perfect for Punisher then!

Everyone was pretty great and the film didn't take itself too seriously.  I really really enjoyed it a great deal.

[Bebpo]

IN this one he LIVES and becomes Spider-Old-Man

And Aunt May becomes Carnage in the after-credits scene.

That was THE BEST stupid movie rumor EVER

---

Also, I liked this movie. Its fun- there's some dumb stuff, ill grant anyone that, but the more I watch the first three spider-man movies the more I realize that these aren't movies I like all that much. I'm tired of Kirsten's horrible mary jane, I am tired of Toby's tears, I am tired of the HORRIBLE delivery of spider-banter, and while I appreciate screaming in Army of Darkness- it gets wayyy tiresome to see Mary Jane do nothing but. It felt like the first Burton Batman all over again.

Nitpicks include an entirely inconsistent soundtrack/score, stupid NEW YORK GITZ BEHIND SPIDER-MAN moment (I HATE this shit in these movies- its stupid feel good barf), emma stone never got naked, lizards head looked all weird- and they made me look at the weird head- stop it; its weird. that weird skateboard tony hawk training montage thing demi pointed out- its true; it seemed weird too.

ALL OF THESE THINGS considered, still more FUN than the original movies. I read my share of spider-man comics, but I dont give a shit about accuracy because THAT IS AN IMPOSSIBLE DREAM OF COMIC NERDS. Cite yer examples of the perfect comic book movies and i'll laugh- whatever...

It's like they based his face design off the super mario bros movie.



What's wrong with the skateboarding montage though?  Kids like skateboarding and it was a good way for him to mess with his new abilities.

[Tasty]

Cite yer examples of the perfect comic book movies and i'll laugh- whatever...

It's not perfect, but I felt Batman Begins was about as close to Year One as any comic movie is to any comic TPB. In fact, watching the Year One animated movie was like watching Begins all over again, but with less Rah's and water microwaver stuff.

I agree with your overall point though. A comic movie, to be great, should:

- Adapt the character as closely to the comics as possible
- Be a great movie

ASM has a good Spidey but the movie itself is pretty weak, which is like the opposite of the Raimi films (well, SM2 and maybe 1) (although I never minded Tobey.)